Massage Parlor Reports

At least you got that much. I've been there a few times and got light teasing just once, and the rest was legit massage. Been there a few times and have just given up. That place is actually in here, there are many TOFFT at that place. The foot place and the one next to it are owned by the same people.

[QUOTE=TheOCman; 1145636]I was over on Ponderosa in Santa Ana picking up some medicinal herbs when I saw a couple of massage places. I wasn't sure if they were strictly foot massage joints due to the signage but got the idea they offered full body. I didn't remember reading about these places here so I decided to TOFFT. Upon entering unit B, I got the impression that they were definitely not upscale or feet only, and was greeted by 30ish short asian lady with rather large bolt-ons. She confirmed they did full body massage, showed me to a room and collected my. 6 for the hour.

The place was a little small and cluttered, definitely not a higher end "spa", no shower and a rather makeshift bathroom. I got a good feeling about this. After undressing and laying without the towel on the massage table, the same lady came in to give me my massage, I don't think anyone else was there at the time. She started a little massaging, then reached over and put the towel on me. When I told her I didn't need it and removed it, she giggled and left it off. The massage itself was ok, she walked on my back for a while as well. After a couple of minutes, I let my hands start wandering and met no resistance.

During the massage, she let my hands wander everywhere I wanted, but wouldn't let me touch the boobs under her shirt. Over the shirt was ok, rubbing her V through the pants was ok, but no touchy the boobs under the shirt. She wasn't wearing a bra so it would have been soooo easy, but she was good at using her arms to guide my hand away when I got under the shirt.

So, after lots of teasing, she asked my to flip. She oiled the lower area without touching anything important. She teased some more and finally asked if I wanted oil for my hand. What? No, I said the oil on her hands was just fine with me. She giggled and said no, then guided my hand for some self help. I've read about girls that do this but never ran into one myself. I thought "Well, I coulda saved myself some money and just stayed home for this" but what the hell here I was with her rubbing everywhere except there, so I took matters into my own hands.

She acted like she really got into that and finally shoved the boobs in my face so hard I thought I was going to be smothered. Apparently that was exactly what I needed.

Afterwards, she cleaned my up, gave me a nice sweet kiss and a cup of water. She was very nice about the whole thing, and I loved those boobs so she got the standard. 4 tip even though I had to finish myself.

All in all, not an unpleasant experience but I will not go back since I know I can get much more bang for my buck elsewhere. [/QUOTE]

Hey guys, travelling monger here. It finally happened to me. An AMP that had no intention of an HE. Here's the story.

My hotel, (the Ayres) is right across the street from this place (bristol and Santa Ana) and I saw their sign so I did some research. No mention on this site, as far back as I've checked, but listed in ********. Com. So I called and the rate was. 6 / hr plus a free table massage. Moseyd on over. Greeted by Holly, a tall 30's thin and semi pretty. Not a bad start. Went into the room and she told me table massage at end, after massage. OK a new experience let's see.

Well she came in, I'm naked face down and she puts a small sheet over me. I'm thinking Oh dear. Not good. Well I've had massages that start this way in Asia and end real good, so I'm not too bummed. Yet. She used a very warm oil and the massage on my back, legs and especially my butt was very good. Absolutely no teasing of the boys. I flipped and she made a little cover of the sheet and kept it over my boys the entire time, even tho I moved it once. No protest, she just put it back. Now I'm sure nothing is going to happen there, so I just layed back and enjoyed her hands. Her soft touch is amazing, and quite sensual, which is why I was surprised there wasn't even the hint that it might be available. She finished and asked if I'm ready for shower, so I said,"can I get a happy ending?" She said no. I said please, she smiled, said no. Oh well.

Off to the table shower which is really cool! It is an actual fiberglass table shower with a shower head like in the crippled showers on a metal flexible tube. Now that was fun. I did not want to get up. The warm water and her bathing me, (while taking care to keep the boys covered with a washcloth) felt great. The combination of the oil she used and the soap she washed me with, really left my skin feeling good too. So all in all not a bad experience. Gave her a Jackson because the massage and shower were very good.

Now just a question on protocol for my next visit. Is it proper to leave the tip in plain sight to let her know that I am wanting a HE? I know in some areas I travel that's how it's done. Should I have asked her how much for an HE? Should I have just offered. 4? Please PM me. I'd appreciate the help. Anyone coming to St. Louis or Memphis, please let me know.

Cheers,

HD2

[QUOTE=Horn Dog Too; 1146520]Hey guys, travelling monger here. It finally happened to me. An AMP that had no intention of an HE. Here's the story.

My hotel, (the Ayres) is right across the street from this place (bristol and Santa Ana) and I saw their sign so I did some research. No mention on this site, as far back as I've checked, but listed in. Com. So I called and the rate was. 6 / hr plus a free table massage. Moseyd on over. Greeted by Holly, a tall 30's thin and semi pretty. Not a bad start. Went into the room and she told me table massage at end, after massage. OK a new experience let's see.

Well she came in, I'm naked face down and she puts a small sheet over me. I'm thinking Oh dear. Not good. Well I've had massages that start this way in Asia and end real good, so I'm not too bummed. Yet. She used a very warm oil and the massage on my back, legs and especially my butt was very good. Absolutely no teasing of the boys. I flipped and she made a little cover of the sheet and kept it over my boys the entire time, even tho I moved it once. No protest, she just put it back. Now I'm sure nothing is going to happen there, so I just layed back and enjoyed her hands. Her soft touch is amazing, and quite sensual, which is why I was surprised there wasn't even the hint that it might be available. She finished and asked if I'm ready for shower, so I said,"can I get a happy ending?" She said no. I said please, she smiled, said no. Oh well.

Off to the table shower which is really cool! It is an actual fiberglass table shower with a shower head like in the crippled showers on a metal flexible tube. Now that was fun. I did not want to get up. The warm water and her bathing me, (while taking care to keep the boys covered with a washcloth) felt great. The combination of the oil she used and the soap she washed me with, really left my skin feeling good too. So all in all not a bad experience. Gave her a Jackson because the massage and shower were very good.

Now just a question on protocol for my next visit. Is it proper to leave the tip in plain sight to let her know that I am wanting a HE? I know in some areas I travel that's how it's done. Should I have asked her how much for an HE? Should I have just offered. 4? Please PM me. I'd appreciate the help. Anyone coming to St. Louis or Memphis, please let me know.

Cheers,

HD2[/QUOTE]What I find to be generally true is that you can gauge the nature of an AMP from when they offer the table shower. A shower before the massage likely means they want you to be clean for the fun that is about to ensue. A shower at the end likely means they're going to wash the oil off of you at the end of your legit massage (although I suppose HR is sometimes available in this scenario. But certainly not a guarantee).

LM

Typically, as far as I'm aware. The policy is you do not talk about fight club.

Basically if you ask, or mention it. You're done. Maybe point, move the towel, touch her legs, move up to her ass, etc. But if you talk or ask, I think you're as good as toast. Again, just IMO.

[QUOTE=Horn Dog Too; 1146520]Hey guys, travelling monger here. It finally happened to me. An AMP that had no intention of an HE. Here's the story.

My hotel, (the Ayres) is right across the street from this place (bristol and Santa Ana) and I saw their sign so I did some research. No mention on this site, as far back as I've checked, but listed in. Com. So I called and the rate was. 6 / hr plus a free table massage. Moseyd on over. Greeted by Holly, a tall 30's thin and semi pretty. Not a bad start. Went into the room and she told me table massage at end, after massage. OK a new experience let's see.

Well she came in, I'm naked face down and she puts a small sheet over me. I'm thinking Oh dear. Not good. Well I've had massages that start this way in Asia and end real good, so I'm not too bummed. Yet. She used a very warm oil and the massage on my back, legs and especially my butt was very good. Absolutely no teasing of the boys. I flipped and she made a little cover of the sheet and kept it over my boys the entire time, even tho I moved it once. No protest, she just put it back. Now I'm sure nothing is going to happen there, so I just layed back and enjoyed her hands. Her soft touch is amazing, and quite sensual, which is why I was surprised there wasn't even the hint that it might be available. She finished and asked if I'm ready for shower, so I said,"can I get a happy ending?" She said no. I said please, she smiled, said no. Oh well.

Off to the table shower which is really cool! It is an actual fiberglass table shower with a shower head like in the crippled showers on a metal flexible tube. Now that was fun. I did not want to get up. The warm water and her bathing me, (while taking care to keep the boys covered with a washcloth) felt great. The combination of the oil she used and the soap she washed me with, really left my skin feeling good too. So all in all not a bad experience. Gave her a Jackson because the massage and shower were very good.

Now just a question on protocol for my next visit. Is it proper to leave the tip in plain sight to let her know that I am wanting a HE? I know in some areas I travel that's how it's done. Should I have asked her how much for an HE? Should I have just offered. 4? Please PM me. I'd appreciate the help. Anyone coming to St. Louis or Memphis, please let me know.

Cheers,

HD2[/QUOTE]

I was hankering for a good massage + HE, and again was tired of my usual spots. The CH on lampert doesn't have a shower. There's another one on the same street that advertises on CL, so I figured,"birds of a feather, flock together" right? I call to ask if they had a shower, then proceeded to head on over.

The moment I walked in, I noticed an older (read much older) provider. Now I'm praying to God, Buddha, Odin, and Shiva that she's not going to be my provider and merely the MM.

I'm lead to a room and I ask her to use the shower. At this point she yells to this person in the back something in Chinese. The person who responded sounded much younger, so here I am thinking wooo. There's is hope! I leave the shower and go back to the room. Then. The same provider that greeted me walked in. Ohh how you have forsaken me massage gods. I don't even bother to touch, just laid there and hoped for at least a good massage. The massage was ok. Probably a 5/10. Not awful, but not fantastic either. Did rub the ass, but no teasing at all.

I figured I'd leave this one up to fate. The lights are dim, and if I used a lot of imagination, and if she instigated then so be it. On the flip my boys hang out and surprisingly I'm at attention (It was all the ass rubbing, I swear). I feign oops, and she covered me back up. I usually do that to tell them hey I'm not shy about you seeing my junk. Another few minutes of an avg massage, and I think towards the end she sorta rubbed around to see if I'd bite. But at this point, I'm thinking I'd rather save my extra 20 bucks and not be traumatized.

Damage. 6.2 If I had a. 1 I'd use that as a tip, but stupid ATM's only dispense 20's. Won't be coming back.

It's been a while, like September. Good to see you back.

[QUOTE=Greenhornet57; 1146589]I was hankering for a good massage + HE, and again was tired of my usual spots. The CH on lampert doesn't have a shower. There's another one on the same street that advertises on CL, so I figured,"birds of a feather, flock together" right? I call to ask if they had a shower, then proceeded to head on over.

The moment I walked in, I noticed an older (read much older) provider. Now I'm praying to God, Buddha, Odin, and Shiva that she's not going to be my provider and merely the MM.

I'm lead to a room and I ask her to use the shower. At this point she yells to this person in the back something in Chinese. The person who responded sounded much younger, so here I am thinking wooo. There's is hope! I leave the shower and go back to the room. Then. The same provider that greeted me walked in. Ohh how you have forsaken me massage gods. I don't even bother to touch, just laid there and hoped for at least a good massage. The massage was ok. Probably a 5/10. Not awful, but not fantastic either. Did rub the ass, but no teasing at all.

I figured I'd leave this one up to fate. The lights are dim, and if I used a lot of imagination, and if she instigated then so be it. On the flip my boys hang out and surprisingly I'm at attention (It was all the ass rubbing, I swear). I feign oops, and she covered me back up. I usually do that to tell them hey I'm not shy about you seeing my junk. Another few minutes of an avg massage, and I think towards the end she sorta rubbed around to see if I'd bite. But at this point, I'm thinking I'd rather save my extra 20 bucks and not be traumatized.

Damage. 6.2 If I had a. 1 I'd use that as a tip, but stupid ATM's only dispense 20's. Won't be coming back. [/QUOTE]

OCman, should have searched the forum my friend. I've referred to this broad on a few occasions, as well as the 2 units that are side by side over there (same owner). This place is now strictly legit. There was a gal there, Lisa, who I used to see often who I was able to coax into some shirtless R&T but she bailed and mamsan (girl you saw) has assured me they don't do that at all there. Other gals confirmed she cracked down on them all. She's an ok lady, decent, hard massage but those bolt ons are a disaster.

[QUOTE=TheOCman; 1145636]I was over on Ponderosa in Santa Ana picking up some medicinal herbs when I saw a couple of massage places. I wasn't sure if they were strictly foot massage joints due to the signage but got the idea they offered full body. I didn't remember reading about these places here so I decided to TOFFT. Upon entering unit B, I got the impression that they were definitely not upscale or feet only, and was greeted by 30ish short asian lady with rather large bolt-ons. She confirmed they did full body massage, showed me to a room and collected my. 6 for the hour.

The place was a little small and cluttered, definitely not a higher end "spa", no shower and a rather makeshift bathroom. I got a good feeling about this. After undressing and laying without the towel on the massage table, the same lady came in to give me my massage, I don't think anyone else was there at the time. She started a little massaging, then reached over and put the towel on me. When I told her I didn't need it and removed it, she giggled and left it off. The massage itself was ok, she walked on my back for a while as well. After a couple of minutes, I let my hands start wandering and met no resistance.

During the massage, she let my hands wander everywhere I wanted, but wouldn't let me touch the boobs under her shirt. Over the shirt was ok, rubbing her V through the pants was ok, but no touchy the boobs under the shirt. She wasn't wearing a bra so it would have been soooo easy, but she was good at using her arms to guide my hand away when I got under the shirt.

So, after lots of teasing, she asked my to flip. She oiled the lower area without touching anything important. She teased some more and finally asked if I wanted oil for my hand. What? No, I said the oil on her hands was just fine with me. She giggled and said no, then guided my hand for some self help. I've read about girls that do this but never ran into one myself. I thought "Well, I coulda saved myself some money and just stayed home for this" but what the hell here I was with her rubbing everywhere except there, so I took matters into my own hands.

She acted like she really got into that and finally shoved the boobs in my face so hard I thought I was going to be smothered. Apparently that was exactly what I needed.

Afterwards, she cleaned my up, gave me a nice sweet kiss and a cup of water. She was very nice about the whole thing, and I loved those boobs so she got the standard. 4 tip even though I had to finish myself.

All in all, not an unpleasant experience but I will not go back since I know I can get much more bang for my buck elsewhere. [/QUOTE]

I think asking specifically for it will do you in 80% of the time. This place is legit anyways so there was nothing you could have done. If it happens, it will kind of organically happen, you cannot coax someone who doesn't do it (though they will have you believe that) and others that do it for everyone will just basically make sure it happens so you just wait and see, or be sure to visit a place that has been confirmed to offer it (this site and others) and then you don't have to wonder.

[QUOTE=Horn Dog Too; 1146520]Hey guys, travelling monger here. It finally happened to me. An AMP that had no intention of an HE. Here's the story.

My hotel, (the Ayres) is right across the street from this place (bristol and Santa Ana) and I saw their sign so I did some research. No mention on this site, as far back as I've checked, but listed in. Com. So I called and the rate was. 6 / hr plus a free table massage. Moseyd on over. Greeted by Holly, a tall 30's thin and semi pretty. Not a bad start. Went into the room and she told me table massage at end, after massage. OK a new experience let's see.

Well she came in, I'm naked face down and she puts a small sheet over me. I'm thinking Oh dear. Not good. Well I've had massages that start this way in Asia and end real good, so I'm not too bummed. Yet. She used a very warm oil and the massage on my back, legs and especially my butt was very good. Absolutely no teasing of the boys. I flipped and she made a little cover of the sheet and kept it over my boys the entire time, even tho I moved it once. No protest, she just put it back. Now I'm sure nothing is going to happen there, so I just layed back and enjoyed her hands. Her soft touch is amazing, and quite sensual, which is why I was surprised there wasn't even the hint that it might be available. She finished and asked if I'm ready for shower, so I said,"can I get a happy ending?" She said no. I said please, she smiled, said no. Oh well.

Off to the table shower which is really cool! It is an actual fiberglass table shower with a shower head like in the crippled showers on a metal flexible tube. Now that was fun. I did not want to get up. The warm water and her bathing me, (while taking care to keep the boys covered with a washcloth) felt great. The combination of the oil she used and the soap she washed me with, really left my skin feeling good too. So all in all not a bad experience. Gave her a Jackson because the massage and shower were very good.

Now just a question on protocol for my next visit. Is it proper to leave the tip in plain sight to let her know that I am wanting a HE? I know in some areas I travel that's how it's done. Should I have asked her how much for an HE? Should I have just offered. 4? Please PM me. I'd appreciate the help. Anyone coming to St. Louis or Memphis, please let me know.

Cheers,

HD2[/QUOTE]

New place opened in same brick building, same floor as the one previously posted. Since Min and Linda have been "on vacation" and I haven't really liked the replacements, I thought I would try the new one down the hall. Seemed promising because this new business is open to 11. Went in and was greeted by a cute spinner type, N. N is a little older but dressed in short shorts and a low cut top. She takes me to the room and says it is not her turn and Vivian would give me my massage. I kept staring at N and told her I would wait for her, but she tells me to try Vivian first. Vivivan is younger and curvy and friendly but every time I touched her, she pulled away and told me she is ticklish. After about 15 minutes of this, I told her to get the MMS.

I tell the MMS I would rather have N, and after many words in Vietnamese to Vivian, the MMS agrees. N comes in, closes the door, smiles very nicely, and asks what she can do. I rub her tits and her crotch and tell her to make me happy. She smiles and asks for. 6 with. 5 for her and. 1 for Vivian. I told her that I will tip her after if the massage makes me happy. Great technique with lots of mileage after I pulled her shorts down and top off. She really got wet very quickly when I started licking and sucking on her tits. Will return.

Well for about four months I've only taken from the forum, and not given anything specific back, so I went out a couple of weeks ago and TOFTT. I had heard that generally there was no fun to be had at places up and down Tustin Avenue, or a block or two away, despite appearances, so I gave one of these a try.

Chinese Ann leaned over the counter to greet me, showing me her bra cups couldn't quite contain their contents, a good sign. Then back into the room we go. It's decked out with all the signs of a legit, professional place, and I get covered with a small towel. I keep my hands under my chin as she starts in with a pretty good massage, and I think nothing special will happen. Then hang my arms down. After 5 or so she moves to where I could touch, and I lightly contact her calf. No resistance, no welcoming. Another 5 or 10 minutes, then flip. She continues on my thighs without teasing. I reach for the small of her back and stroke up and down her spine.

I decide not to see how much roaming I can get away with, but instead focus on giving her pleasure by touching less private places. Then she takes the towel off, and points to my equipment with a question on her face. 'Yes! ' I nod. She puts her finger to her lips, 'Shhh. ' Into really intense stroking she goes, making sure every drop gets squeezed out. I keep up the sensuous light massage of her back and outer hips, and resist the temptation to leap for her breasts.

I got the impression she's really worried about getting busted.

Ann continued with a scalp massage, a nice touch, and then washed me off with a hot towel, just the right temperature. A spontaneous kiss on the lips! After dressing and leading me back to the lobby, she grabbed me with a hug and dug her right breast hard into my ribs.

Since she is so scared of LE, let me not post the location or her real name (her real fake name, not the fake fake name I used here, LOL) , but I'll be happy to respond to senior members who've made significant contributions.

-Lift Her Up

Yeah, I found myself spending too much money and decided to do a self imposed stop. But, stress at work, always brings me back, so I'ved convinced myself it's good for my health! And the "therapy" is worth the money! (well, only when the therapy doesn't include older, sagging providers LOL). By the way, reading this forum doesn't exactly help either. =)

[QUOTE=Arod Oc;1146592]It's been a while, like September. Good to see you back.[/QUOTE]

Decided to try an LF new establishment off Raymond. Walked in around 4:00 saw a sign that said busy please come back at until X:XX so I waited and went back and was greeted by L*a. Pretty cute nice bod. Only 2 work there. Took me to a room and I layed down nekkid. She comes in and leaves the towel off and asks what kid of massage do I want? I ask for soft, she immediately goes behind me and spreads my legs then sits between them and goes to work. Excellent tease, she wouldn't let me touch much but 1 boob but the finish was excellent. Will return.

Went to one of my FS standbys on Romneya. (I had't been in several months) It was closed and the office is for lease. Too bad, it wasn't the best but it was FS and the price was right. So, drove across the parking lot to the medical building. 3rd floor.

I also had't been here for maybe 6 months. Gal was so-so but up sell all the way. Even tried to hit me up for an xtra 10 spot after the deed. Won't be back (at least not on a Saturday) I'll be glad when my regular gets back from China.

Any of you guys ever visit in AMPs in Hollywood area? I am having to do some work up there in a next week, but that Hollywood forum is a dead town. Just seeing if anyone ever makes it up there. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Crimsonquiggs;1148005]Any of you guys ever visit in AMPs in Hollywood area? I am having to do some work up there in a next week, but that Hollywood forum is a dead town. Just seeing if anyone ever makes it up there. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Ask Charlie Sheen. LOL. Sorry couldn't help it.

I visit KAMPs. Rates run .5/1.0. I've visited VAMPs a couple of times. But the V-RAs always try to haggle up the tip to 1.2 or more, and get pissy when they don't get their way.

There are some AMPs in GG which have both K-RAs and V-RAs. In this situation, what is the expected tip?

[QUOTE=Qeast; 1148254]I visit KAMPs. Rates run. 5/1. 0. I've visited VAMPs a couple of times. But the V-RAs always try to haggle up the tip to 1. 2 or more, and get pissy when they don't get their way.

There are some AMPs in GG which have both K-RAs and V-RAs. In this situation, what is the expected tip?[/QUOTE]Standard service 50/100.

Thanks for the tip, Gavon. Didn't find your gal there, but I did find J. She was a early 30's (I guess. Can't ever tell for sue) Kgirl with a nice figure and some real B's. Paid $0. 5 for a half hour. No TS but a shower in the room. Very strong massage. I'm not sure if she using her nuckles or doing handstands on her thumbs, but she put some major pressure on my lower back. Anyway, She probably spent 20 minutes on my back. Including the sensual parts which were pretty good. Flipped over and started with some DFK, then CBJ (which was darned good considering) , then CG, K9, mish and bang. I think I was there for about 45 minutes. No hurrying, but J did run out of the room after cleaning me up and the MMS came in to help me dress. Both ladies were extremely nice. My best experience in the O. C. The place is not easy to find, but definitely worth the hunt. BTW, I tipped her $100 but she never asked before we went at it and didn't count the money in front of me. About $70 cheaper than the only real AMP in Knoxville, TN, which sucks in comparison. You fellas are lucky.

[QUOTE=Gavon; 1133565]She's back gentlemen, in all her glory. Same looks, same slutty service (greek, rim, BBBJ, finish on her fake D's, etc.) however her prices have gone up since she's no longer working in the 'hood. 50 / entrance and 140 / service. Treated it like a mini reunion from the days of Hou's and LS so I figured it was well worth the extra two jacksons. She said she's been in her country of Peru the last couple years and wanted to come back to make some cash.

To save myself a barrage of PMs I thought I'd share with all you mongers her location info down in OC:

Have fun, she works Mon-Wed and the mamasan is very sweet so treat them well. Cheers to our vets! [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tamno3;1148038]Ask Charlie Sheen. LOL. Sorry couldn't help it.[/QUOTE]Haha maybe I should give him a call then

I know I'm an idiot but help me. I have been seeing this girl almost every week for almost a year. She works in a seemingly HE AMP, but she allows me FS with a lot of kissing and hugging. I have eventually fallen in love with her, but I can not overcome the fact that she is a provider who may do / does many others every week. I tried to withdraw myself from this relation but when I skip a week she would call me and would act sad that I don't come any more. I really don't think she loves me but I'm just a reliable source of weekly income for her. Hasnany senior monger been through an experience like this? Any advice is really appreciated.

Sending you a PM.

[QUOTE=Desparate1;1149324]I know I'm an idiot but help me. I have been seeing this girl almost every week for almost a year. She works in a seemingly HE AMP, but she allows me FS with a lot of kissing and hugging. I have eventually fallen in love with her, but I can not overcome the fact that she is a provider who may do / does many others every week. I tried to withdraw myself from this relation but when I skip a week she would call me and would act sad that I don't come any more. I really don't think she loves me but I'm just a reliable source of weekly income for her. Hasnany senior monger been through an experience like this? Any advice is really appreciated.[/QUOTE]

I don't frequent SoCal often anymore. After a report by PACOM I decided to try Emerald while in town last month. I must not have gotten Lucy because, while patient, I let my hands roam and was allowed to do so. Cute asian between mid 30s. Typical fair. 6.4.

You sir are a fucking idiot. Sorry to spoil this for you but you are paying her for sex. If anything ever did become of it and she fell in 'love' with you, it would only be until she founds someone with more cash. If she was in love with you, first you wouldn't be paying for sex, two she would be calling you more often than that.

Enjoy it, but don't let your emotions get in the way. You need to find some fresh meat, that will change your mind.

[QUOTE=Desparate1;1149324]I know I'm an idiot but help me. I have been seeing this girl almost every week for almost a year. She works in a seemingly HE AMP, but she allows me FS with a lot of kissing and hugging. I have eventually fallen in love with her, but I can not overcome the fact that she is a provider who may do / does many others every week. I tried to withdraw myself from this relation but when I skip a week she would call me and would act sad that I don't come any more. I really don't think she loves me but I'm just a reliable source of weekly income for her. Hasnany senior monger been through an experience like this? Any advice is really appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dgoesinyours; 1149504]You sir are a fucking idiot. Sorry to spoil this for you but you are paying her for sex. If anything ever did become of it and she fell in 'love' with you, it would only be until she founds someone with more cash. If she was in love with you, first you wouldn't be paying for sex, two she would be calling you more often than that.

Enjoy it, but don't let your emotions get in the way. You need to find some fresh meat, that will change your mind.[/QUOTE]Hey Desparate1,

If you can work around this individual's tone, I have to say that his message is correct. I don't think you're an idiot, but I do think you have to let your reason overrule your emotions in this case, and in general when it comes to our hobby. Personally, I won't be with any provider more than 3 times, because I realize that there is the potential for irrational feelings to set in. I'm not saying that you should do the same, but you should be cognizant of the fact that you are susceptible to developing feelings for a provider, and you should build some mechanisms to ensure that it doesn't happen again.

Good Luck,

LM

She is most likely a provider, probably does one or more others. So, if she is actually sad to not see you, then it seems like the perfect opportunity to take her to dinner or something. If she goes for that, then maybe you got something, or she is continuing to play you.

I suppose in the end, as long as you keep giving her money, you will never know if her sadness is true, or just an act for you to come and pay her again.

Others have been down this road. Some have formed meaningful friendships inside of the parlor, others have brought the relationship outside of the parlor and some have even married the girl.

Its a dangerous game, especially if you have any assets that could be split in a community property state.

[QUOTE=Desparate1;1149324]I know I'm an idiot but help me. I have been seeing this girl almost every week for almost a year. She works in a seemingly HE AMP, but she allows me FS with a lot of kissing and hugging. I have eventually fallen in love with her, but I can not overcome the fact that she is a provider who may do / does many others every week. I tried to withdraw myself from this relation but when I skip a week she would call me and would act sad that I don't come any more. I really don't think she loves me but I'm just a reliable source of weekly income for her. Hasnany senior monger been through an experience like this? Any advice is really appreciated.[/QUOTE]

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DG.

So you must be jelous because why are calling him a fucking idiot, he has a girl who may truly like him, don't bash him for that. He was asking for advice, if you can't ask for advice on this site then what? I am preatty sure there are guys on here that have had this same situation, I know I have. Ya you may end up paying for at the beggining but that doesn't mean you will pay for it outside of the AMP. Remember this at some point we all pay for it in one way or another.

Asian Lover.

[QUOTE=Dgoesinyours; 1149504]You sir are a fucking idiot. Sorry to spoil this for you but you are paying her for sex. If anything ever did become of it and she fell in 'love' with you, it would only be until she founds someone with more cash. If she was in love with you, first you wouldn't be paying for sex, two she would be calling you more often than that.

Enjoy it, but don't let your emotions get in the way. You need to find some fresh meat, that will change your mind. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Desparate1;1149324]I know I'm an idiot but help me. I have been seeing this girl almost every week for almost a year. She works in a seemingly HE AMP, but she allows me FS with a lot of kissing and hugging. I have eventually fallen in love with her, but I can not overcome the fact that she is a provider who may do / does many others every week. I tried to withdraw myself from this relation but when I skip a week she would call me and would act sad that I don't come any more. I really don't think she loves me but I'm just a reliable source of weekly income for her. Hasnany senior monger been through an experience like this? Any advice is really appreciated.[/QUOTE]I've "dated" strippers and massage girls outside of work. Dated meaning. Overnights at their (or my) place. NEVER paying for anything except the occasional dinner. First of all. If she isn't willing to see you for free outside of work or if she's never even brought it up after a year. You're just a payday. (read again. YOU'RE JUST A PAYDAY).

Secondly. Even if she does all of these things you're still headed for a train wreck. Professional girls are flakey, selfish, and mercenary. Have your fun if you can, but as I've learned the hard way. Keep your feelings in check. We're all just the thing at the moment for these girls and they'll move on to bigger better things the second the opportunity arises. These are not settle down with girls.

Nah I think falling in love with a provider would constitute as being an idiot. If she's breaking you off freebies then fine, maybe there's something to be had there. But if you're going back week after week paying normal rates then she's owning you. We've all been there and had regulars and favorites, but you have to keep a clear head and proper perspective about things. We're all different, but I couldn't even fathom wanting to take a provider out to dinner.

Decided to stop by an establishment that use to go by the name of MC Health. I pass by this location on a regular basis and each time there seems to be less and less signage that would indicate such a place exists, or is even receptive for one's business, for the exception of the ubiquitous, dimly luminous, 'Open' sign.

Having not been there in over a year, I decided to investigate, as to the mystery of the missing plaque.

While I opened the door and before my eyes could adjust to the shadowy lit waiting room, I couldn't help but notice the universal aroma that announces to ones' self, 'YES, this is an AMP', very Similar to walking into a VFW hall with its' own unique smells of stale booze, oxidized wood and tobacco. Signage or no signage, you know where you are!

As my eyes modified their gaze into the murky surroundings, I was immediately taken aback by an 8' by 10' signed, photograph portrait of our 39th President of the United States of America.

Could it be, the one and only Jimmy Carter?

My fellow mongers, we live in very interesting times. The possibility that JC himself might have shelled a few of his peanuts right here, in this locale, right in the backyard of our 37th president, Tricky Dick! Well, there should be some sort of historical roadside marker, making this fact better known. One would think!

Just imagining our EX pres conjuring up all those Middle east peace proposals, whilst enjoying a nice soothing inner thigh rub, with the occasional ball graze tease to his Middle waist. It makes you wonder what other kinds of 'Piece' proposals he was really pondering.

I was greeted by a 20s-30s above average looking, presumably Chinese women who said her name was Shu-she, or maybe it was Susie. Gave 60 for the hour and was lead to the massage closet, thinking to myself, this could be the very same closet Carter found his 'inner' Jimmy in! What a thought!

Susie wasn't the talkative type, other than the occasional 'You OK? ' or the ever popular, 'too hard? ' these banterings pretty much summed up the conversational part of our speed-dating session. I did notice however, the closer she got to the 'more tired' parts, of my anatomy, the more frequent the 'You Ok? ' phrase came into play.

It was about half way through our date I began to suggest via, hand swipes on the back of her calf and the interior of the thigh, this massage needed a more presidential outcome.

I perceived that something wasn't quite right though, especially when her 'you okay? ' chirpings, transformed very slightly into 'You Cop? ' squawks. I assured her I was not, yet she insisted I prove otherwise.

I thought to myself in this situation, WWJD? Much like our former caring leader of the free world, I began to gently massage simultaneously both sides of the divide, bringing a sense of peace and stability to her regions and thus moving forward in creating a more perfect union. With the peace treaty invoked, the celebrations began!

She started out gently stroking my mallet until it reached its' full potential, moments later, she almost imperceptibly slipped on the dinner jacket. So far so good.

She was a little rushed in the BJ department however. Her technique produced a sound that was very reminiscent of a miniature drain plunger, desperately trying to dislodge some Ken Doll excremental dumpage from Barbie's Playhouse bathroom shitter.

Needless to say we moved on to another position, which would allow me to control the tempo.

I opted for DS, which she performed quite adeptly and as she was getting into position, she was able to somehow mimic the body movements of a gecko. Hands and feet fanned out, with those movements Lizards do, alternating right leg / left hand-left leg / right hand. Quite impressive and certainly a first in all my years of experience, and with that, we Crescendoed.

And as I was lead back to the reception room, once again I glanced over towards the portrait and whispered to myself. 'Thank you Mr. President. '

Baggens

Rocco, G. Hornet, and LaMuerte, Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it very much. Cheers, HD2

Whenever a girl brings me to orgasm, I feel bonded to her afterwards. The more times I come in her, the more attached I feel. This is true whether she's a volunteer or a professional. (Just speaking for myself here.) Some people are wonderful to feel connected to, others, maybe not.

-Lift Her Up.

[QUOTE=Horn Dog Too;1149651]Rocco, G. Hornet, and LaMuerte, Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it very much. Cheers, HD2[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dildo Baggens;1149620]'Thank you Mr. President. ' [/QUOTE]Haha. Good read. Thanks for that. What was the total damage? Usual? Curious, because I've been to an AMP or to in Whittier (HJ only) and I seem to recall rates being a little cheaper out yonder.

6+$ was the damage and bring a flashlight, it's frickin dark in that place. You may not be able to see your money.

Baggens.

[QUOTE=Pacom555;1149686]Haha. Good read. Thanks for that. What was the total damage? Usual? Curious, because I've been to an AMP or to in Whittier (HJ only) and I seem to recall rates being a little cheaper out yonder.[/QUOTE]

Thanks all for the advice. I just needed a shock to get back to reality. The funny thing is that I just got a phone call from my girl reminding of our "date" tomorrow. When I tried to pass on her she turned on that powerful female weapon of being on the verge of sobbing and that I promised this and that. Just wanted to add that she is willing to go out with me and she shares all her family issues with me. I will let you know the outcome of this story as soon as I find out. Thanks all again.

I basically agree with Lift Her Up, except that I would add that there are orgasms and there are orgasms, that when either a volunteer or a professional delivers the kind that is in tune with you as you were proceeding there (she "brings you to it") , then that is great, and it hard not to appreciate them and reward them if that is the name of the game. This is that elusive GFE we talk about sometime. But it is dangerous, and maybe up to a point for them too, to invest too much in this feeling.

[QUOTE=Lift Her Up; 1149683]Whenever a girl brings me to orgasm, I feel bonded to her afterwards. The more times I come in her, the more attached I feel. This is true whether she's a volunteer or a professional. (Just speaking for myself here.) Some people are wonderful to feel connected to, others, maybe not.

-Lift Her Up. [/QUOTE]

I went over to skypark today after an encounter with a sub par provider. I went to skypark paid for 1/2 and went into the room. In walks S#'why. OMG she was amazing. Tall, NIce full breast, and an amazing ass. She comes over and gives me the standard f / s backrub. On the turn she asked what I need and I told her everything. She quoted me $20 but I only had $. She accepted my donation and went to get her tools. She comes back in and quickly undressed showing her awesome body. She puts her hand on my member and then begins to go down to the boys She practically devoured my two little buddies I have never had anything like that before from a GF let alone a provider. It was like something from a porno. Sh then slides her mouth on my member and begins a steller CBJ. She was an expert at hiding the condom be / see I looked for it the entire time an never saw it until she took her mouth off my little friend and got on top for a little CG.

After A few moments in CG S# lays on her back for mish. She looked at me and asked me to make her cum. Now thats a challenge I will take any day. I slid in and started the fun in mish as she played with her clit. After a few moments she begin rubbing her breast together and moaning loudly. I pushed my face into her breast as she screamed and pulled me in tight and reached her big O. I looked up and was so turned on by her sexy O face and I couldn't hold it in any more. I went in for some DFK and pumped away until completion. Cleaned up and was on my way. I have had my fair share of SW's and girls from AMP's and AAMP's and no other experience comes close to this. S# was super sexy, never rushed, and added a sprinkle of GFE on top. I Don't think I can ever go to any other AMP. How are the other girls at Skypark. If you have any suggestion for my next visits please fire off. Especially if your choice is asian. I just can't get enough of those asian girls.

Total Damage $.5

I don't wish the pain of dating a provider on my worst enemy, and hope not to see you go through such agony.

Don't forget that these women are working girls, without the emotional capacity to love another human being. Use them for what you want, but keep your emotions in check.

[QUOTE=Desparate1;1149324]I know I'm an idiot but help me. I have been seeing this girl almost every week for almost a year. She works in a seemingly HE AMP, but she allows me FS with a lot of kissing and hugging. I have eventually fallen in love with her, but I can not overcome the fact that she is a provider who may do / does many others every week. I tried to withdraw myself from this relation but when I skip a week she would call me and would act sad that I don't come any more. I really don't think she loves me but I'm just a reliable source of weekly income for her. Hasnany senior monger been through an experience like this? Any advice is really appreciated.[/QUOTE]

I tried to avoid reponding but cannot help myself. Here is the bottom line: If you have to ask the question, it isn't happening. If there was any chance of establishing some type of successful relationship, it would have happened already. I'm not even one of those saying that these ladies are impossible to establish something with, I think its possible with anyone, but this will not be ending well for you. Her telling you about her family means nothing, I promise you she has other 'regulars', maybe not of the FS variety, that she speaks to about her personal life, it's just human nature. I think this girls likes you in some capacity beyond provider / providee, probably more a 'comfort' level than an acutal 'like'. Things would have progressed more by taking a natural course if there were mutual intense feelings, and that hasn't happened. I wish you luck, but I guarantee that nothing good comes of this. Your feelings for her are not for her per se. This is more involved than just a guy finding a hot chick who just happens to be a provider. There are underlying internal issues of yours that are at work here.

[QUOTE=Desparate1;1149709]Thanks all for the advice. I just needed a shock to get back to reality. The funny thing is that I just got a phone call from my girl reminding of our "date" tomorrow. When I tried to pass on her she turned on that powerful female weapon of being on the verge of sobbing and that I promised this and that. Just wanted to add that she is willing to go out with me and she shares all her family issues with me. I will let you know the outcome of this story as soon as I find out. Thanks all again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dildo Baggens; 1149620]Decided to stop by an establishment that use to go by the name of MC Health. I pass by this location on a regular basis and each time there seems to be less and less signage that would indicate such a place exists, or is even receptive for one's business, for the exception of the ubiquitous, dimly luminous, 'Open' sign.

Having not been there in over a year, I decided to investigate, as to the mystery of the missing plaque.

While I opened the door and before my eyes could adjust to the shadowy lit waiting room, I couldn't help but notice the universal aroma that announces to ones' self, 'YES, this is an AMP', very Similar to walking into a VFW hall with its' own unique smells of stale booze, oxidized wood and tobacco. Signage or no signage, you know where you are!

As my eyes modified their gaze into the murky surroundings, I was immediately taken aback by an 8' by 10' signed, photograph portrait of our 39th President of the United States of America.

Could it be, the one and only Jimmy Carter?

My fellow mongers, we live in very interesting times. The possibility that JC himself might have shelled a few of his peanuts right here, in this locale, right in the backyard of our 37th president, Tricky Dick! Well, there should be some sort of historical roadside marker, making this fact better known. One would think!

Just imagining our EX pres conjuring up all those Middle east peace proposals, whilst enjoying a nice soothing inner thigh rub, with the occasional ball graze tease to his Middle waist. It makes you wonder what other kinds of 'Piece' proposals he was really pondering.

I was greeted by a 20s-30s above average looking, presumably Chinese women who said her name was Shu-she, or maybe it was Susie. Gave 60 for the hour and was lead to the massage closet, thinking to myself, this could be the very same closet Carter found his 'inner' Jimmy in! What a thought!

Susie wasn't the talkative type, other than the occasional 'You OK? ' or the ever popular, 'too hard? ' these banterings pretty much summed up the conversational part of our speed-dating session. I did notice however, the closer she got to the 'more tired' parts, of my anatomy, the more frequent the 'You Ok? ' phrase came into play.

It was about half way through our date I began to suggest via, hand swipes on the back of her calf and the interior of the thigh, this massage needed a more presidential outcome.

I perceived that something wasn't quite right though, especially when her 'you okay? ' chirpings, transformed very slightly into 'You Cop? ' squawks. I assured her I was not, yet she insisted I prove otherwise.

I thought to myself in this situation, WWJD? Much like our former caring leader of the free world, I began to gently massage simultaneously both sides of the divide, bringing a sense of peace and stability to her regions and thus moving forward in creating a more perfect union. With the peace treaty invoked, the celebrations began!

She started out gently stroking my mallet until it reached its' full potential, moments later, she almost imperceptibly slipped on the dinner jacket. So far so good.

She was a little rushed in the BJ department however. Her technique produced a sound that was very reminiscent of a miniature drain plunger, desperately trying to dislodge some Ken Doll excremental dumpage from Barbie's Playhouse bathroom shitter.

Needless to say we moved on to another position, which would allow me to control the tempo.

I opted for DS, which she performed quite adeptly and as she was getting into position, she was able to somehow mimic the body movements of a gecko. Hands and feet fanned out, with those movements Lizards do, alternating right leg / left hand-left leg / right hand. Quite impressive and certainly a first in all my years of experience, and with that, we Crescendoed.

And as I was lead back to the reception room, once again I glanced over towards the portrait and whispered to myself. 'Thank you Mr. President. '

Baggens[/QUOTE]Thank You Mr Baggens! This is a great report. It is informative and funny. Great way to start the day. Rammer