"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=MajMilkDuds;4870103]If you are posting about a girl and / or posting pics. Please provide contact info. I have DMed many of you and have not gotten a response. This isn't a brag forum, we are here to share. I have girls to share too. I'm not just asking for something for free.[/QUOTE]Posting pics is perfect. The minute you start including contact info, is when the drama starts. All kinds of buttwipes will be contacting those chic's and a few buttwipes will even show the chic's the reviews. Smdh. Pm the person if you want the contact info. If they don't want to give you the contact info, then so be it. Keep it moving! Also, pming guys for the contact info helps narrow down the ones that are throwing shade at others for brownie points with these gal.

[QUOTE=WialdThang;4868768]My pc is running a vpn if its on. S. A. Kicks me off ever so often cause It says my IP address is suspicious. I either sigh right back in & or change location. It does same with my phone also. Not a big problem.[/QUOTE]Which vpn are you running?

[QUOTE=JunkSecond;4870473]Which vpn are you running?[/QUOTE]I use.

Private internet access. I don't know as much as some on here. Its 40 a year. I can use on 4 or 5 pcs I think. It will show me as being almost any where in the world. I got it cause I was downloading torrents & got the nasty email from my isp to quit downloading them, after pia no more emails.

How do why'all deal with the girls who don't want to be paid for sex? I keep running into women on these sites that claim they are not prostitutes or whatever but want to be paid to "hang out" and whatever happens happens. I always retort with the blatant honesty that I am not paying just to hang out. I'll pay once my needs are met, which can include hanging out, but also definitely includes intimacy. These delusional women still sometimes take issue with that and liken it to prostitution. Do you guys deal with the same? How to get around these conflicts?

[QUOTE=CuriousInquir;4868551]I agree with you on most of this. I won't waste my time trying to find $200 SBs. If she meets what I'm looking for and wants $300, I'll pay it and be happy. Every now and then, one of those $300 per meet gals turns into a worthwhile regular. At the worst, I overpaid for a session. My time is too valuable to worry about it if I paid $300 versus $200 for an average session. Either way, I paid and it wasn't great.

I have paid $400, and I'd do it again, but she needs to be a cut above. I even paid $500 in Vegas for a smoking hot SB I met through the site. She was worth it (to me). I paid her $500 a day to come back for a couple hours on each of the next two days of my long weekend out there too. It was some of the best sex I've ever had. I probably would have spent more money playing craps in those couple of hours per day, so maybe I saved money by seeing her!

Where I disagree is your statement that no one has time to sort though 100 SBs looking for the inexpensive ones. Apparently, some guys do. Indeed, the post I quoted earlier called those of us who pay rather than waste time seeking bargains "simps" who deserve to die. Cest la vie.[/QUOTE]To add to your points:

As a simple point of fact, we all have different priorities. We all have a different viewpoint on the relative value of time and money.

Just as there is nothing wrong with having very different tastes in women (the women some men like give me nausea and some may say the same about my tastes for all I know), there is also no benefit in criticizing how another man spends either his money or his time.

Let us all resume acting like responsible, consenting adults again.

In my experience, many of those girls know what this is all about.

I will not pay before I meet someone. I will not waste my time on a girl who says she "will not" have a sexual arrangement. However, the girls who want to meet and see where things go, I am not opposed to small gifts. I will often reply that we will meet up, I will pay for dinner, and we will see where it goes from there. Many will have sex first visit, but just want to convince themselves it was their decision. If not, if she is especially hot, I may give $50 max and tell her I look forward to seeing where things go from there.

If the girl wants a specific commitment from you before meeting (x amount of dollars) and does not want to give any specific commitment in return, she is probably a scammer / time waster.

[QUOTE=ParrotScope;4870155]I'll leave it alone.

One thing I learned from this board, is there is no changing anyone's mind here. My account. Will most likely just be banned as usual.

To ask the question is to answer it.

Continue with your "right" approach. SMDH.[/QUOTE]It appears you missed the point of my post. My approach isn't "right" or wrong. Neither is yours. If you want to spend tons of time tracking down quality SBs at low prices, you should. I don't have time for that approach, and I can afford to pay more to avoid sinking so much time into the chase. It seems your frustration is that my and others' willingness to pay more for young hotties makes it tougher for you to land them for less. That's not my problem. I'm not interested in keeping prices low for you or anyone else. I'm interested in having great sex with hot women in their 20's without spending all of my free time on finding them. An extra $100 per session is worth it for me to achieve a higher success rate in less time.

When I talk to an incredibly gorgeous woman who wants an absurd allowance, I dont blame the guy with $50 million who’s willing to pay her that much. I tell her no thanks and move on. It’s not the rich guy’s fault. It’s my fault that I don’t want to pay so much. Likewise, it’s not my fault that you can’t get every SB on the cheap.

[QUOTE=CuriousInquir;4871203]It appears you missed the point of my post. My approach isn't "right" or wrong. Neither is yours. If you want to spend tons of time tracking down quality SBs at low prices, you should. I don't have time for that approach, and I can afford to pay more to avoid sinking so much time into the chase. It seems your frustration is that my and others' willingness to pay more for young hotties makes it tougher for you to land them for less. That's not my problem. I'm not interested in keeping prices low for you or anyone else. I'm interested in having great sex with hot women in their 20's without spending all of my free time on finding them. An extra $100 per session is worth it for me to achieve a higher success rate in less time.

When I talk to an incredibly gorgeous woman who wants an absurd allowance, I dont blame the guy with $50 million whos willing to pay her that much. I tell her no thanks and move on. Its not the rich guys fault. Its my fault that I dont want to pay so much. Likewise, its not my fault that you cant get every SB on the cheap[/QUOTE]I fully agree with you. For those that are used to the SW budget can keep to that and there's no issue with that. I mean we all want to eat the apple pie how we choose to eat it and with what toppings is everyone's choice. Also I don't get how we went from "just sharing pics" to this being such an issue LOL.

My profile clearly states that I am looking for a companion "AND EVERYTHING THAT IMPLIES. " Within the first few messages, I work in the question "are you comfortable having a physical relationship with a man my age?" Yes and we move to text. No and I wish her good luck. No such thing as a "real Sugar Baby" or a "real Sugar Daddy. " Sugar is what two consenting adults agree. Why spend a lot of time trying to win a useless argument?

[QUOTE=NikkaNamedSlik;4870580]How do why'all deal with the girls who don't want to be paid for sex? I keep running into women on these sites that claim they are not prostitutes or whatever but want to be paid to "hang out" and whatever happens happens. I always retort with the blatant honesty that I am not paying just to hang out. I'll pay once my needs are met, which can include hanging out, but also definitely includes intimacy. These delusional women still sometimes take issue with that and liken it to prostitution. Do you guys deal with the same? How to get around these conflicts?[/QUOTE]

You are most likely right on this. There are people who think otherwise but if we talking economics and rants, why'all know where this goes.

[QUOTE=CuriousInquir;4871203]It appears you missed the point of my post. My approach isn't "right" or wrong. Neither is yours. If you want to spend tons of time tracking down quality SBs at low prices, you should. I don't have time for that approach, and I can afford to pay more to avoid sinking so much time into the chase. It seems your frustration is that my and others' willingness to pay more for young hotties makes it tougher for you to land them for less. That's not my problem. I'm not interested in keeping prices low for you or anyone else. I'm interested in having great sex with hot women in their 20's without spending all of my free time on finding them. An extra $100 per session is worth it for me to achieve a higher success rate in less time.

When I talk to an incredibly gorgeous woman who wants an absurd allowance, I dont blame the guy with $50 million whos willing to pay her that much. I tell her no thanks and move on. Its not the rich guys fault. Its my fault that I dont want to pay so much. Likewise, its not my fault that you cant get every SB on the cheap.[/QUOTE]

I think the best you can do is lay out the expectation as you have done already. There no point in beatung around the Bush. I also go though some basic understanding of the relationship, expectation and allowance and I think that had served me well.

[QUOTE=NikkaNamedSlik;4870580]How do why'all deal with the girls who don't want to be paid for sex? I keep running into women on these sites that claim they are not prostitutes or whatever but want to be paid to "hang out" and whatever happens happens. I always retort with the blatant honesty that I am not paying just to hang out. I'll pay once my needs are met, which can include hanging out, but also definitely includes intimacy. These delusional women still sometimes take issue with that and liken it to prostitution. Do you guys deal with the same? How to get around these conflicts?[/QUOTE]

Economically, I get parrotScope frustration. Its like with any market, low demand generate better pricing on the supply. Keeps the "value", in a sense, realistic. I think his argument is this: Yes you can pay it and save on time but the more of us who follow this example, more inflated the price becomes for less action. Yeah everyone else outside this board maybe paying a lot, but some would least expect the people on the board here would be different in that regard and I think that's his key point (correct me if I'm wrong).

If paying 250 gets you action today, what's the price tomorrow? And honestly most of these women are cash hungry on these site but catch them at a kroger on a random day and watch how some change who they are.

Personally, I get CuriousInquir explanation. Whether or not if you should be concerned as a individual is really up to you. As you can see, if you got the money and you want it, why should I worry about everyone else? Information here doesn't constitute that you to a discount (obviously). It just points you to the girls. Your own negotiation skills should handle the rest.

Something I read in a book about getting women that author made a point on was, we're all in this together so the way the last guy treats a woman is going to affect the next guy. Thats more truer in this game I feel. Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=HaneDales;4871356]You are most likely right on this. There are people who think otherwise but if we talking economics and rants, why'all know where this goes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SilentK69;4871325]I fully agree with you. For those that are used to the SW budget can keep to that and there's no issue with that. I mean we all want to eat the apple pie how we choose to eat it and with what toppings is everyone's choice. Also I don't get how we went from "just sharing pics" to this being such an issue LOL.[/QUOTE]It's my fault. I responded (twice) when I could have ignored the posts saying that those of us with more money and less time are merely simps. I'll drop it now even if others don't. I've made my point and others disagree, which is fine.

[QUOTE=CuriousInquir;4871203]It appears you missed the point of my post. My approach isn't "right" or wrong. Neither is yours. If you want to spend tons of time tracking down quality SBs at low prices, you should. I don't have time for that approach, and I can afford to pay more to avoid sinking so much time into the chase. It seems your frustration is that my and others' willingness to pay more for young hotties makes it tougher for you to land them for less. That's not my problem. I'm not interested in keeping prices low for you or anyone else. I'm interested in having great sex with hot women in their 20's without spending all of my free time on finding them. An extra $100 per session is worth it for me to achieve a higher success rate in less time.

When I talk to an incredibly gorgeous woman who wants an absurd allowance, I dont blame the guy with $50 million whos willing to pay her that much. I tell her no thanks and move on. Its not the rich guys fault. Its my fault that I dont want to pay so much. Likewise, its not my fault that you cant get every SB on the cheap.[/QUOTE]I hear what you're saying, so be it.

I don't believe it takes all that much time, but you are hung up on that. You can get something good without sinking, and without wasting a lot of time. That's the angle a lot of you condescending gents like to take.

I'm definitely not rich, but I am NOT a blue collar worker (though I was before.) I earn upwards of 70 k, with no debt, children, and I'm under 30. That's enough money to afford the over-priced providers. I just refuse to be a simp.

Paying 300 for a session wouldn't break the bank, but afterwards I would feel like a clown for spending that much. For just an experience. Not an item or something you can use next week. A one time experience for only about 30 minutes.

It's funny the condescending angle most guys take to justify wasting valuable dollars on used up rental kitty. Blah blah I'm sooooooo rich, my time is more. Vakuable than yours.

I know the value of a dollar, and I know the value of these "classy" women. That's why I won't waste too much on them, and I got to keep my dignity.

Like I said it's just beating a dead horse. Only death will change the behavior. Continue simping and saving your valuable time.

Many of these big spenders get scammed frequently as well.

I refuse to be a clown, but not everyone thinks this way. That is just my philosophy.

[QUOTE=ParrotScope;4873825]I hear what you're saying, so be it.

I don't believe it takes all that much time, but you are hung up on that. You can get something good without sinking, and without wasting a lot of time. That's the angle a lot of you condescending gents like to take.

I'm definitely not rich, but I am NOT a blue collar worker (though I was before.) I earn upwards of 70 k, with no debt, children, and I'm under 30. That's enough money to afford the over-priced providers. I just refuse to be a simp.

Paying 300 for a session wouldn't break the bank, but afterwards I would feel like a clown for spending that much. For just an experience. Not an item or something you can use next week. A one time experience for only about 30 minutes.

It's funny the condescending angle most guys take to justify wasting valuable dollars on used up rental kitty. Blah blah I'm sooooooo rich, my time is more. Vakuable than yours.

I know the value of a dollar, and I know the value of these "classy" women. That's why I won't waste too much on them, and I got to keep my dignity.

Like I said it's just beating a dead horse. Only death will change the behavior. Continue simping and saving your valuable time.

Many of these big spenders get scammed frequently as well.

I refuse to be a clown, but not everyone thinks this way. That is just my philosophy.[/QUOTE]I was mistaken when I said I wouldn't respond again. I apologize to the board. Sometimes my best intentions go sideways.

You're probably right that you can be just as successful in this game by spending less money while using good skills and putting in the time. But unless you left a zero off of your income, you simply don't understand the value of money from the perspective of business executives, consultants, doctors, lawyers, and other highly compensated professionals. Someday, if you are working a ton, have kids or other hobbies (or both), and are earning 5 times as much money as you are now (or more), I strongly suspect the value you place on money versus time will change significantly, along with a lot of other value judgments about money. For example, I used to think $100+ bottles of wine, Bones' steaks, and high end hotels weren't worth it either. I enjoy all of them now that the up charge for them doesn't cause me any heartburn. And I'm cheap compared to my professional peer group.

What you consider being a simp, I consider to be putting my modestly high income and wealth to good use. And if I hit the lottery and suddenly have $50 million at my disposal, I'll start spending even more to get exactly the SBs I want regardless of price.

Guys I want to see posts about sugarbabies. The awesome ones and the scammers so I can make good selections going forward. All this back and forth bullshit is not interesting to me at all. How many posts down do we need to go to find a proper SB report out either good or bad.

I personally have had some good on SA and will report in the next day or two.

May the pussy be with you.

SD.

Has anyone seen the person in the link below (remove the spaces for the link to work)?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7fc2[/URL] 3430-ed 51-46 03-8262-51 86 e 685 c a28.

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I don't understand why you can't just post the addy?

[QUOTE=BmSable;4874444]Has anyone seen the person in the link below (remove the spaces for the link to work)?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7fc2[/URL] 3430-ed 51-46 03-8262-51 86 e 685 c a28.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SugarDaddio;4874603]I don't understand why you can't just post the addy?[/QUOTE]Didn't want it to be searchable from Google.

This fool thinks we are going to copy the link, and fix his shitty link, you're welcome BTW, and stop putting a period at the end of the link also.

Same reason people won't even post a link they will, just say lexi, and next thing you look there are more lexis than any other name, like we are supposed to know which one?

[QUOTE=SugarDaddio;4874603]I don't understand why you can't just post the addy?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BmSable;4874444]Has anyone seen the person in the link below (remove the spaces for the link to work)?



[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7fc23430-ed51-4603-8262-5186e685ca28[/URL] [/QUOTE]

Talks a good game about kinks but then reveals she wants online only until the pandemic subsides. This is happening a lot lately, unfortunately. COVID gives scammers a perfect excuse to try to put you off until later, but only after they've wasted your time hooking you on how great they will be in an in-person arrangement. I politely thank them and say I'm looking for in-person only, but good luck. I would like to chew them out, but to do so would risk getting banned if they make up things and report me.

I also suspect from her pics that she's chunky, but it's hard to tell until you get the full body pics by phone text. Of course, I didn't move to phone texts once she revealed she's looking for online.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/37b56335-35f4-46be-b2ab-61e9d1c32ce9[/URL]

I'm striking out so far today. This one wants online to get to know each other first. At least she was upfront about it before I wasted much time chatting her up.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/8755d5e1-2e9b-46ed-ba2e-70fb5490d1c0[/URL]

Needs $60 to buy brakes and gas and then she will come to my place to spend the night.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c61067f3-c17a-4940-861d-b3ec591ec794[/URL]

Needs $200 upfront so she can look good before we meet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a1ceed1b-1a0e-4262-89a3-2cf92f4d772a[/URL]

Thanks man. Started chatting with her today. You have saved me some time Much appreciated.

SD.

[QUOTE=CuriousInquir;4875503]I'm striking out so far today. This one wants online to get to know each other first. At least she was upfront about it before I wasted much time chatting her up.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/8755d5e1-2e9b-46ed-ba2e-70fb5490d1c0[/URL][/QUOTE]

Sick aunt needs money up front blah blah blah LOL. Beautiful pictures though. Just beware.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/985284ff-c33f-4cd6-a5f5-af6765ce33f2[/URL]

SD.

Money up front for hair and nails, blah blah LOL. Beware. Again nice pictures.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9b360356-1cca-439f-86f0-16454ea9cfa4[/URL]

SD.

Beautiful woman. Very orgasmic. Very slight pooch form 3 kids but overall very nicely built. Wants covered but believe future visits could be negotiated away from covered. Definite repeat. Awesome time with her.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/80f8a2d3-c1b5-49ed-8d57-0dd49d32a9e0[/URL]

SD.

My definition of the perfect SB. This woman is very sharp, easy to talk with. She orgasmed multiple times. Very wet pussy. In our lead up she asked for me to provide a cover but when the deed happened she never mentioned it. Definite repeat for sure. Only negative is she won't answer me back as I'm trying for a repeat LOL. Maybe she is one of the women that are the one and done types. Or I didn't prove worthy during my first visit. Who knows. I would appreciate any word on how others have fared with her.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9a65813e-eeb8-49ed-b256-d3421d79cfcc[/URL]

SD.

[QUOTE=SugarDaddio;4875971]Money up front for hair and nails, blah blah LOL. Beware. Again nice pictures.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9b360356-1cca-439f-86f0-16454ea9cfa4[/URL]

SD.[/QUOTE]She wanted my Facebook page right away. Good bye.

Sorry I didn't get the report out earlier for you to avoid the hassle.

[QUOTE=BearsBuddy;4876008]She wanted my Facebook page right away. Good bye.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/dd1e9505-eb80-4e4d-a0b7-7c25301d64a3[/URL]

That one will ask you to send money to prove you're real.

[QUOTE=BearsBuddy;4875640]Needs $60 to buy brakes and gas and then she will come to my place to spend the night.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c61067f3-c17a-4940-861d-b3ec591ec794[/URL][/QUOTE]LOL I've been told the same. They even said they were at the mechanics shop waiting on me to send the brakes. They have no clue to the real USA world.

Feel like she's playing games, has anyone talked to her or meet up with her?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/832bb044-c9fb-49ee-be90-a7c809075685[/URL]

You didn't cover up? Some will ask, get hot and go with it, but have regrets later.

[QUOTE=SugarDaddio;4875996]My definition of the perfect SB. This woman is very sharp, easy to talk with. She orgasmed multiple times. Very wet pussy. In our lead up she asked for me to provide a cover but when the deed happened she never mentioned it. Definite repeat for sure. Only negative is she won't answer me back as I'm trying for a repeat LOL. Maybe she is one of the women that are the one and done types. Or I didn't prove worthy during my first visit. Who knows. I would appreciate any word on how others have fared with her.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9a65813e-eeb8-49ed-b256-d3421d79cfcc[/URL]

SD.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hal1957;4876294]You didn't cover up? Some will ask, get hot and go with it, but have regrets later.[/QUOTE]She hasn't logged on to Seeking since 7/10. Sent her a message. I’ll report back if she answers.

Good luck. She is so worth it. One of my better times for sure.

May the pussy be with you.

SD.

[QUOTE=Bobt45;4877096]She hasn't logged on to Seeking since 7/10. Sent her a message. Ill report back if she answers.[/QUOTE]

I drove an hour to meet this one. 10 minutes after meeting time she sends me a text that we have to reschedule. Crickets since.

What a waste.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ea19aeed-3b4e-4f1b-9eb7-5bf6b10ee108[/URL]

Anyone have any luck with MILF / older on SA?