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I live in Boston, but Pleasant Street SPA is RI in my favorite place, the drive can be long, So I end up going to Quincy. I notice that Pleasant Street no longer adversities at the Boston Phoenix, Are they still in Business and they have same Quality of Girls?
i agree also with what muffy is saying, i dated a girl from an for a long time, and i asked her the question. she said a large amount work to send money home to help the family as korea is expensive, and there is a lot of poor. also she notice the cloths, handbags, and cars in flushing ny. 99% are louise, coach, bmw, and other high end brands.
you gotta look at whre else in us can you make 800-1000 a day in a good market/amp tax free. you will also notice they are only around 3-6 weeks at a time then they may be back or not. but they like to take vacations and spen money. the girl i dated's family in ny thought she was a manager of nail salon in providence.....
[quote=muffythediver][/quote]personally i would be sick to find out that any of the girls there were forced into doing anything against their will.[/quote]
same here! if these girls are being forced to perform they all should get emmy awards for best actress. i have never met any girl in an amp who showed any sense of being forced! if they are being forced or **** i would be the first in line to help close their doors and send the bastards to jail! consenting is fine, being forced is a whole other story![/quote]
[QUOTE=DaddysLookin]I could not agree with you more. Speaking with the girls, I have found that all of the ones I have spoken with are in the country legally, well, at least legal to the letter of the law. The latest one I spoke with told me she had her green card and is in the country as an art student. I am going to presume that the others have similar stories. The owners want the girls to be legal. Further, to a person, they all tell me they have family and send money home to support them. Does not sound like coercion to me, except, sadly, by poverty.[/QUOTE]
It is not different than those from Guatemala that come here work as laborers on the construction sites and send money home or the Haitians that work washing dishes or as maids.
Everyone that comes to and is from this country cannot be a high paid executive or doctor.
Most of us that are frequenting to AMPs jump the gun with FS tips at $120 / $140 at the top places (1021, OS, CH, DT - IMHO!). Of course the girls are not going to hand us back money if we overtip, or let us know in advance expected tip prices have gone down.
So, the question is - did you all of the sudden start tipping less?
[QUOTE=DaddysLookin]Been reading and adding for some time and I am seeing a growing trend developing which excites me.
It appears that $160.00 seems to be the magic number these days for a f/s experience at a number of places. I guess $150.00 with the coupon or internet coupon discounts.
I have personally not paid over $160.00 in a while and am very prepared to walk out if that can only buy me a hag.
The next course of action is to make that standard at CH and the new DT. Then, its $90 at Lilly's for the rub and tug, and other R & T places as well.
This is exciting and seeing it in more and more posts is actually moving pricing lower to where it should be. Now, if the owners would just open up another 10 places of so, perhaps a C note would do the whole thing, house included.
A shitty economy does have its upside![/QUOTE]
I had some time to kill, so I checked out Sundance. Thought about One spa, but the shorter drive to Sundance was attractive.
Pepsi, pesci, something like that. Nice TS, plenty of time in the right places. Massage was abougt 4 minutes. Sauna was nice on a cold day.
She started in with the tease and how much money I had. Told me 180 for F/s, 140 for CBJ. I only had 140, so I pleaded. She seemed to just understand enough english to deal with the task at hand. The haggle was a real turn off.
We did our thing. Her breath was bad.
I have had much better experiences at the old DT and CH.
Funny thing, the next day I was at the grocery store and I got a wiff of her breath, then I realized I was walking behind a Korean, I think, guy and he smelled like she did. I laughed.
Probably will not go back to Sundance.
[QUOTE=Ampdude 2003]So, the question is. Did you all of the sudden start tipping less? [/QUOTE]Over a year ago, JJ's on Reservoir had some pretty hot ladies in. On my first visit, I was essentially told the menu of pricing: HJ: $40.00 BJ: $80.00 and F/S: $100.00. With the house, that comes to $160. 00 for the total visit including house and tip to be absolutely clear.
I paid this amount, right up to the time the talent rotated out to another location. IMHO, it presented a value at the time.
Following from this, I have worked Reservoir avenue with the same pricing. When in the mood, I hit JJ's, Tea Rose and now Diamond. They are all on the same stretch of road. Last time at Diamond, she tried to upsell and I told her that is what they charge up the street and she backed right down to the offered amount. I have not tried to beat the house fee down yet, but will next time. $50.00 is plenty for an hour, IMHO.
I believe the threat of leaving, or worse, paying the house, using up the hour, with no allowed upsell and zero tip, will scare the provider to lower to the offered level. The problem is that many guys simply pony it up without even trying to work the price down.
Hope that this helps.
I was an overtipper when I started out a few years back. Not being very local, I was a kid in a candy store when visiting your fine city (even throwing good money after bad at Cheaters in addition to my high quality Custom House visits). So the AMP tip was 160. Very foolish in retrospect because it hurts comrades to do that. I went to 140 and quickly tested the 120 level. This was easier before girls started discussing the amount prior to the deed. I would just place the tip on the table afterward and that was it. So here's a method that has worked well and which can entirely evade a discussion on the tip: after she takes the house fee and disappears, put your tip on the table in full view. Make sure a Jackson or two is on top, and maybe a few Hamiltons in there to fluff up the pile and let her know this is not a HJ visit. In several cases this has prevented all discussion of tip and type of service. She just did her routine. If they count it after and ask for more, tell her its all you have (standard practice) and tell her how great she is and you can't wait see her again, blah, blah. If she counts it before and has anything to say about it that is downer. If she appears steadfast in any way, tell her you want a HJ (and she'll be out eighty bucks). Anyway, any pre-deed discussion of tip is a downer to me. Another thing is if you really short a girl because you scram before she counts it, then you are cultivating the girl's need to negotiate in advance. Don't rip them off.
My question to my comrades is: am I still overpaying at 120 tip for the quality AMPs? If I leave 100 and she doesn't it count it until after I leave will she she perceive that as being ripped off, or just that she wished I was more of a sucker? I often wonder if reports of lower amount are simply boasts or based on visits to CT AMPs, etc . . ..
Our common mission should be to brings prices down without enduring negotiations that puts a damper on the experience.
[QUOTE=Ampdude 2003] the girls are not going to hand us back money if we overtip, or let us know in advance expected tip prices have gone down.
So, the question is - did you all of the sudden start tipping less?[/QUOTE]
I assume the $160 referenced is a FS tip in a addition to the house fee, and that the $90 at lilly's is the tip and house fee combined? If that is not the case there is only a ten dollar difference. Let's all be clear so we can help set market prices accordingly.
[QUOTE=DaddysLookin]Been reading and adding for some time and I am seeing a growing trend developing which excites me.
It appears that $160.00 seems to be the magic number these days for a f/s experience at a number of places. I guess $150.00 with the coupon or internet coupon discounts.
I have personally not paid over $160.00 in a while and am very prepared to walk out if that can only buy me a hag.
The next course of action is to make that standard at CH and the new DT. Then, its $90 at Lilly's for the rub and tug, and other R & T places as well.
This is exciting and seeing it in more and more posts is actually moving pricing lower to where it should be. Now, if the owners would just open up another 10 places of so, perhaps a C note would do the whole thing, house included.
A shitty economy does have its upside![/QUOTE]
First time reporter. Long time reader.
I live in MA and have been going to AMPs in Prov. For about 3 years now, ever since one of my buddies moved down there for college. I have always been a strong supporter of Lily's and haven't ventured beyond there very often (tried Wanskunk once; wasn't impressed). But after reading these forums for quite a while I decided it was time to step my game up and try some FS.
So, me and a couple of friends that I introduced to the monger scene decided to take a dirt tour last night and hoped on 146 with a list of AMPs and strip clubs plugged into the Nav.
First stop was Club Fantasies. Ten dollar cover to get in, got a couple drinks 5 bucks a piece, through some singles at the girls on stage downstairs before heading upstairs to get hit with another 10 dollar cover. We had a couple more drinks while watching the fully nude girls on stage (downstairs is apparently only topless and does not have private rooms). One girl caught my eye (didn't catch her name but she had a mighty mouse tattoo on her right ass cheek). She asked me if I would like a dance and I asked her how much. 30 bucks for dance on one of the couches that are against the wall, pretty much exposed to the rest of the club, or 130 bucks for 15 minutes in one of the private rooms along that back wall. She then proceeded to tell me that was just the house fee and I passed and we left.
Next mission was a little recon of the new DT which hasn't had many reports yet. The Nav brought us to the address I had for it (385 S. Main St.) but we didn't see any signs of any sort to identify the place from the street and there wasn't any parking to be had; Saturday night in a nice section of town probably had something to do with it. I did, however, call and the mama and she confirmed that they were open but only had two girls working. We needed three unless we were going to double up on one LOL.
So we continued on our way to One Spa, which after a call confirmed there were 5 girls on. I don't think it could be in a better location for anyone coming from MA down 146, it is literally right off the Atwells Ave. Exit in the Italian section that has all the restaurants. We parked right outside the door and walked down the st. To hit the ATM and grab another drink before going in.
Walked through the glass door on the side of the building that has the number 55 on it and headed to the third floor. We rang the bell and the mama immediately opened the door and looked surprised to see three of us standing there (most people must roll solo on these missions but I always find it more fun to go with friends. It makes for some good laughs on the ride home and for good stories for later on). She brought us down the hall into one of the rooms. There were a couple chairs and a mattress on the floor. Might have been one of the rooms the girls take naps in? Anyway the mama grills us for about 10 minutes checking our IDs, asking how we heard about the place, so on and so forth. I told her a friend of mine told me it was a good place and that we had been to other places in the area many times. She calmed down and eventually brought two girls in. I picked the better looking one and one of friends took the other while the third waited for another girl to finish.
Another interesting note to make is that when you go as a group the girls seem to be more playful and fun like its some sort of party in the hallway as you pass each other in the hallways from the sauna to the TS slapping high fives. Seems to lighten the mood IMHO.
Sorry for all the build up, if you've read this far this is what you've been waiting for:
Paid the 60 for the house fee once in the room and she left for a couple minutes while I undressed. It was a little cold in the room and my twig and berries were obviously showing the result. We she came back in she must have noticed and asked, "Cold? " and turned the space heater on.
We then headed to the sauna for a few minutes. I'm not a fan of baking and it was excessively hot in there. She sat with me the whole time and we made some small talk or tried to at least, her English was less that spectacular. Once the TS was free we headed in. She hit all the right spots taking care to soap up my ass really good. Was expecting some rimmage after reading other reports of this similar practice.
Back to the room after a quick rest stop in the pisser. I'd been drinking. She tells me to lay down and begins a pretty good massage, not as good as Lily's but decent. She asks how hard and I say medium. This goes on for maybe 5 minutes or so until she starts with some slow teasing and blowing on my back and ass crack. She starts rubbing her buddy up and down my back and whispers in my ear with a nibble, "what you want? , " I reply "everything, " she says "OK, I be right back. " She leaves for a couple minutes to get the supplies.
I'm expecting some rimming mind you after the excessive ass washing but instead she tells me to roll over and she begins a CBJ instead, slightly disappointing because I wanted to see what that was all about but whatever the CBJ was good and I wouldn't have known it was covered if I hadn't looked down. I'm at about half mast now. The drinks have taken their toll so I close my eyes and try to focus. Once I'm at about 80% she climbs on for some CG which started out slow but I wasted about to just sit there and let her go at her own speed so I began a steady upward thrust that I don't think she was prepared for and quickly asked to change positions LOL.
We then go into some missionary and again I start a heavy pound, which she attempts to thwart with her hand bracing my stomach. This slightly annoys me because in order for my to feel anything with a rubber on I need to get into it. I ask her to roll over for some doggy and she complies. I go slow because I know if there is anytime that I'm going to hurt her by going to hard it would be in this position so I make up for it by spreading her cheeks and checking out her asshole which while she reached under and rubbed my balls. Best view and feeling of the session.
Again it must have been hurting her and after a few minutes of this she pulls away and asks if she can finish me off with just an HJ. I asked her what was wrong and she said it was too big. I call BS on this because I was at 80% tops on the boner meter. However, I say OK and she finishes me off with a rapid tug which felt nice and provided for a nice explosion.
Total damage 200. 60 to the house. 140 for her. I know everyone on here has been talking about trying to lower the prices but I was half cocked and wasn't in the mood for negotiations. Sorry.
Overall a pretty good time even though there was no rimming or DATY, which I assumed were standard at this establishment. However, both of my friends did receive a light rimming and one did indulge in some DATY. I guess it depends on the girl. Also I didn't catch her name but she was def. The prettiest of the three. I'd give her an 8/10 on the AMP scale. The other two girls were each a solid 7/10, one's name was June my friend later told me, I believe she's been reported on.
Happy Hobbying
[QUOTE=Catnibbler]Hey guys,
I'm from Ma.
Drove down to 1 spa and saw June. After reading a report on her.
Sweet looking girl nice body but a flat butt.
Great table bath,decent massage but wanted way to much $ for everything.
I was so disappointed after driving an hour. Got my HE and left. Could have gotten that in Ma.[/QUOTE]
Read your disappointing report on June at One Spa. I reread the report that you referenced on June. Yes she did want 1.6 vs the usual 1.4 but when told that all the poster had was 1.4 she relented and he had a great session. Since your report was very sketchy and didn't mention prices or any other specifics I don't know what exactly happened. But you should have had this donation info before you went there. You did mention however that you got your HE and left. I'm guessing (and hoping) that you didn't go there for a HE only. If that was the case then it was no wonder that you left disappointed. These girls are expecting FS (or 1.4) from their customers and if they run across one who only wants a HE then they are out that money. And yes the almighty dollar is what they are after. There are places that the girls are happy with giving out HE's (and the corresponding tip) that you should go to if that is what you want. And more specifics on the review would be help. Have fun and be safe. And welcome to the board. SO
[QUOTE=Samo123]I live in Boston, but Pleasant Street SPA is RI in my favorite place, the drive can be long, So I end up going to Quincy. I notice that Pleasant Street no longer adversities at the Boston Phoenix, Are they still in Business and they have same Quality of Girls?[/QUOTE]
Yes pleasant St is still around and advertises daily on CL. (search for Pawtucket as their other info within their post and may not show on search) I don't know about the girls as I haven't been there in awhile. Hopeful someone else can let you know who is there, what they offer and how good it is. How about some Quincy info for a fellow So Shore gent! I'm always looking for good places there other than Tina and Angel. Thanks SO
[QUOTE=Cosmic Slop]I had some time to kill, so I checked out Sundance. Thought about One spa, but the shorter drive to Sundance was attractive.
Pepsi, pesci, something like that. Nice TS, plenty of time in the right places. Massage was abougt 4 minutes. Sauna was nice on a cold day.
She started in with the tease and how much money I had. Told me 180 for F/s, 140 for CBJ. I only had 140, so I pleaded. She seemed to just understand enough english to deal with the task at hand. The haggle was a real turn off.
We did our thing. Her breath was bad.
I have had much better experiences at the old DT and CH.
Funny thing, the next day I was at the grocery store and I got a wiff of her breath, then I realized I was walking behind a Korean, I think, guy and he smelled like she did. I laughed.
Probably will not go back to Sundance.[/QUOTE]
This is where I (and we) should just walk out. The price has been 1.4 for ages with some trying for 1.6. If someone asked me for 1.8 I would say thanks and just walk. If worse came to worse and she didn't relent and I walked then I got a nice TS, Sauna and baby massage for .6 and no tip. My guess is that these girls knowing that they already had 30 minutes invested would relent. The econony sucks and the price should be going down instead of up! SO
[QUOTE=Strike2] put your tip on the table in full view. Make sure a Jackson or two is on top, and maybe a few Hamiltons in there to fluff up the pile and let her know this is not a HJ visit. In several cases this has prevented all discussion of tip and type of service. She just did her routine. If they count it after and ask for more, tell her its all you have (standard practice) and tell her how great she is and you can't wait see her again, blah, blah. If she counts it before and has anything to say about it that is downer. If she appears steadfast in any way, tell her you want a HJ (and she'll be out eighty bucks). Anyway, any pre-deed discussion of tip is a downer to me.
Our common mission should be to brings prices down without enduring negotiations that puts a damper on the experience.[/QUOTE]
I agree that discussion of the tip is a downer. I do have one question about your method however. if she is steadfast as you said and you tell her you just want a HE then how do you get the money back without causing a fuss. She has already picked it up and counted it. All she has to do is put it someplace and your out of luck. My guess would be that she wouldn't give it back without a fuss and I don't know of a 'safe' way to get it back. But I could be wrong. SO
1st visit to DT. Parked right out front. It was like a ghost town. Everyone probably watching Steelers-Ravens, and it was snowing. I thought I would take advantage of the snow, knowing the place would be all mine. There was a car with Novia Scotia plates also in front, and I had a monger to monger encounter as I was getting ready for the Sauna( 50ish guy with glasses).
Anyway, let me back up. Big Mama lets me in, and I ask for a lineup and to see girls. She doesn't say a word, and leads me to a room. Not very friendly, this Mamasan, and butt ugly(sorry if your reading this Mama, just giving the facts). I undress and in walks Jasmine, about 35 maybe, average body, petite, A cups, red bikini under hot white shorts. Collects the house fee .60 and leaves for a minute. I relax on table, in comes Jasmine now with her hair up. I thought it was a different girl and ask her name again and she says Jasmine(Homer Simspon "DOI") We head to sauna, she opens door, and there is a fellow monger in there. We lock eyes and she ushes me back to room for a light massage. Massage skills are average(not as good as girls at One). Back to sauna for 10 minutes, then to TW.
TW was ok, not spectacular, but I was skeaky clean. Hit all the cracks, and washed my clean-shaved balls good. Back to sauna, then back to room for more massage. Maybe a 10 minute massge(with baby oil), again average at best. Then the tease, and the question we all wait for, "What you want?"
Everything I say, she leaves to get supplies. I'm still on my stomach when she comes back, and she gets on top of me and starts kissing my legs and ass, and then tongues my ahole pretty good actually, felt pretty good, nice rimming. BBBJ for a bit, some ball licking and sucking(why I shaved before I got there), slipped condo on and rode CG for a a few minutes, finished up doggie. It felt a little robotic, was hoping for more sensual exp. I tried some daty, but was denied. She said next time, which I don't think there will be.
Massage= 6.008
Looks = 7.003
Body = 7.001
Attitude = 6.0
Extras = 7.5(would of been 6 if not for her tongue on my third eye)
Mamsan = as Dean Wormer says to Belushi in Animal House, "zero point zero"
tip $.40 To the proprieters of DT:
"Get some young chicks that will sit on my face while munching on my clean shaved balls!!"
LUVDAMP
[QUOTE=Catnibbler]Hey guys,
I'm from Ma.
Drove down to 1 spa and saw June. After reading a report on her.
Sweet looking girl nice body but a flat butt.
Great table bath,decent massage but wanted way to much $ for everything.
I was so disappointed after driving an hour. Got my HE and left. Could have gotten that in Ma.[/QUOTE]I'm confused, CN.
Above you state that you read the reviews (and assume you've read others reports) but you entered a multiple-reviewed F/S est, as a new client, and tried to downsell the provider (or refused 'reported' rates beyond the $10-20 haggle they expect).
In my travels (and speaking with the girls), I've been told that mongers who do this absolutely will not get the desired attitude (GFE) and will be hustled out. Also some of the girls told me they talk amongst themselves and have excellent memories when it comes to money which is what your f*cking with.
But, my main confusion is 'flat butt' on June?
Must be a BBW chaser 'cause that ass aint flat!