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Saw lady M today and boy after a few weeks I am glad I did. She is the best guys and every time I see her she gets better looking and her performance is exceptional. Pay her a visit and yes guys show up. She gets a lot of calls but most don't show up. I miss Alyssa but Lady M is my favorite. Speaking of Alyssa I have been driving the loop since early June and have not seen her. Any updates on Alyssa?
Alyssa been around the whole July her face has healed from her last confrontation she still got one of the best throat game in the dirty water
[QUOTE=PeteBarlow69;6544263]Saw lady M today and boy after a few weeks I am glad I did. She is the best guys and every time I see her she gets better looking and her performance is exceptional. Pay her a visit and yes guys show up. She gets a lot of calls but most don't show up. I miss Alyssa but Lady M is my favorite. Speaking of Alyssa I have been driving the loop since early June and have not seen her. Any updates on Alyssa?[/QUOTE].
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/northwest-connecticut/female-escorts/caucasian_w/new-french-girl-available-now-/344699215128[/URL]
Coming from Torrington never seen her around here.
[QUOTE=Iphone97;6546855][URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/northwest-connecticut/female-escorts/caucasian_w/new-french-girl-available-now-/344699215128[/URL]
Coming from Torrington never seen her around here.[/QUOTE]Stay away! I was talking to her on SA and was getting bad vibes. Felt like I was being set up, then found out she was involved in a home invasion 10 years ago.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/15db42d5-2745-4578-9ae3-4ebf89fbc207[/URL]
Blue.
[QUOTE=PeteBarlow69;6544263]Saw lady M today and boy after a few weeks I am glad I did. She is the best guys and every time I see her she gets better looking and her performance is exceptional. Pay her a visit and yes guys show up. She gets a lot of calls but most don't show up. I miss Alyssa but Lady M is my favorite. Speaking of Alyssa I have been driving the loop since early June and have not seen her. Any updates on Alyssa?[/QUOTE]I see her out on cherry st during the day, and sometimes at the kellog / hillside end off of willow. Passed her a couple days ago on cherry. Havnt spoken to her in almost a year now though.
[QUOTE=BlueFox141;6546953]Stay away! I was talking to her on SA and was getting bad vibes. Felt like I was being set up, then found out she was involved in a home invasion 10 years ago.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/15db42d5-2745-4578-9ae3-4ebf89fbc207[/URL]
Blue.[/QUOTE]Involved with home invasions and 5 bank robberies. If they're not scared to rob a a bank, they're not scared to rob a client.
Has anyone seen Nylah?
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/bristol-ct/female-escorts/latin/tgifthick-latina-baddie-sweet-/945409878398[/URL]
[QUOTE=ThorViking;6514623]A lot of girls are looking for better rates and higher quality dates on tryst and Eros or landing a sugar daddy. The $200 date is really unattractive for the better providers. That M girl probably got trained every day after she got reviewed here and probably is dealing with the downside of being flush with cash. The girls eventually get a sugar daddy or they go down hill fast. If they do volume they draw attention of neighbors or LEO. Needing to see a connection twice a day, eventually you hit the whammy. There are girls I see that don't post. No, I'm not giving out any numbers LOL. They don't post for a reason and they only see regulars that are money and polite. Skip the games is disgusting now. I haven't been there in a year but I checked it out recently and my god LOL. My advice would be to save up your money and go to tryst or Eros and have a nice time with a higher quality provider. Just my. 02.[/QUOTE]I'm heavy into crypto. I compare 2023 SKIPTHEGAMES market to current crypto market.
FULL of scams and rugpulls ready to waist your $$$ LOL. Off the Radar girls are making $$.
[QUOTE=Thotinspector;6549431]I'm heavy into crypto. I compare 2023 SKIPTHEGAMES market to current crypto market.
FULL of scams and rugpulls ready to waist your $$$ LOL. Off the Radar girls are making $$.[/QUOTE]Just curious what you guys are donating for a good Hh. I'm looking for a nice off the map provider in the Brewster / Danbury area. The enchantment of my steady regular seems to be dwindling. Anyone care to share some digits I'd be appreciative.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;6527713]I had a very enjoyable visit with Maya last week. I don't know why I haven't seen her before. She was wonderful. She is pretty and very pleasant to talk with. She's thick in all the right places. She reminds me of Chelsey before she got an attitude and GPS. No signs of demons. CBJ and CFS. Donation was a little high (but not outrageously) but that seems to be the new norm. She was worth every Penny considering no drama, demons and nice personality. I got the feeling she doesn't do this all the time. All in all it was a pleasant time.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/waterbury/female-escorts/black_caribbean/cape-verde-goddess-looking-to-/134602927939[/URL][/QUOTE]I can't say enough good things about this provider. She is very good at what she does, nice personality and no handler or demons. She is a little more these whsy I pay Miss M but less than what Miss am quotes on her post. This one is a definite keeper. Treat her with respect. She isn't your usual STG poster.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;6527713]I had a very enjoyable visit with Maya last week. I don't know why I haven't seen her before. She was wonderful. She is pretty and very pleasant to talk with. She's thick in all the right places. She reminds me of Chelsey before she got an attitude and GPS. No signs of demons. CBJ and CFS. Donation was a little high (but not outrageously) but that seems to be the new norm. She was worth every Penny considering no drama, demons and nice personality. I got the feeling she doesn't do this all the time. All in all it was a pleasant time.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/waterbury/female-escorts/black_caribbean/cape-verde-goddess-looking-to-/134602927939[/URL][/QUOTE]I can't say enough good things about this provider. She is very good at what she does, nice personality and no handler or demons. She is a little more these whsy I pay Miss M but less than what Miss am quotes on her post. This one is a definite keeper. Treat her with respect. She isn't your usual STG poster.
[QUOTE=SkyWalker13;6537032]I finally saw this one after some trying. There's very little about her on the boards. Communication wasn't too bad and she guided me to an apartment in Waterbury. She asked me to park by a mailbox and she came out to meet me while walking her dog. I followed her into the backdoor of the apartment and the place looked like a scene from hoarders. She was wearing a tight form fitting dress that showed everything and I was thinking with the little head. We got to a less clutered room and she pulled her dress up. She gave a CBJ for a few minutes lubed up her butt and laid stomach down on the couch. I went in slowly and pounded away for a few minutes. She likes ass fucking and her ass is nice. I came in the bag, cleaned up and left. She's a little talkative but not overly friendly. I tried repeating last week and the address she gave looked like a bombed out part of waterbury. I left and probably won't repeat again.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/waterbury/female-escorts/caucasian_w/in-call-fs-waterbury-qv-100/074948742477[/URL][/QUOTE]I tried to see this girl in Waterbury but she gave the worst directions, telling me to go to a "visitors spot" near "mailboxes. " For one, there was no marked visitor spot at the address. By "mailboxes" does she mean the little hut-type thing with the multiple small mail containers inside?
Thanks.
Any one have any information on this one? Tried a few times to contact but no reply. Posts most evey day. Let me know if you do. Thanks and stay safe.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/waterbury/female-escorts/caucasian_e/morning-fun/788323443973[/URL]
[QUOTE=RBlacko;6550674] By "mailboxes" does she mean the little hut-type thing with the multiple small mail containers inside?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]What would you call those small mail containers?
[QUOTE=Legecy;6551889]Any one have any information on this one? Tried a few times to contact but no reply. Posts most evey day. Let me know if you do. Thanks and stay safe.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/waterbury/female-escorts/caucasian_e/morning-fun/788323443973[/URL][/QUOTE]I saw her once a while back. Looks wise, she's nothing to write home about. I would say she's in her mid 30's and little overweight. Service was okay.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/waterbury/female-escorts/exotic/two--girl-specials-with-monica/975762888718[/URL]
Well here it is guys. I contacted them for a two girl meet. Out call they get here they start looking for the rubbers in their purse. Chelsey can't find them she takes the cash goes to the car Monica stayed behind in her panties. Chelsey calls Monica is saying it's in the arm rest then she says wait just stay on the phone. Now Monica leaves left my door cracked open they both fuckin took off. I've seen them both one at a time never had this issue with them. Here is your warning they are up to no good now. I'll definitely be taking different approaches with these bitches from now on no matter how many times I see them.
[QUOTE=Vicr1911;6553111][URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/waterbury/female-escorts/exotic/two--girl-specials-with-monica/975762888718[/URL]
Well here it is guys. I contacted them for a two girl meet. Out call they get here they start looking for the rubbers in their purse. Chelsey can't find them she takes the cash goes to the car Monica stayed behind in her panties. Chelsey calls Monica is saying it's in the arm rest then she says wait just stay on the phone. Now Monica leaves left my door cracked open they both fuckin took off. I've seen them both one at a time never had this issue with them. Here is your warning they are up to no good now. I'll definitely be taking different approaches with these bitches from now on no matter how many times I see them.[/QUOTE]Monica pulled that same crap with me. She said she told me to bring one (she didn't). Chelsey went bad about a year ago. I'm not sure why. The first five times I saw her she was great then she went all crazy. Threatened me because I dared to show up 10 minutes early. I would never see her or Monica or anyone else associated with her.
[QUOTE=Vicr1911;6553111][URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/waterbury/female-escorts/exotic/two--girl-specials-with-monica/975762888718[/URL]
Well here it is guys. I contacted them for a two girl meet. Out call they get here they start looking for the rubbers in their purse. Chelsey can't find them she takes the cash goes to the car Monica stayed behind in her panties. Chelsey calls Monica is saying it's in the arm rest then she says wait just stay on the phone. Now Monica leaves left my door cracked open they both fuckin took off. I've seen them both one at a time never had this issue with them. Here is your warning they are up to no good now. I'll definitely be taking different approaches with these bitches from now on no matter how many times I see them.[/QUOTE]We need to stop this vicious cycle. Way too many "cash & dash" reports. And way too many repeat clients getting shafted. One would assume they would treat a repeat client as gold, knowing what to expect and zero risk of his Uncle showing up.
Both these gals have been around for years and both seem to have dropped off the radar for a while, and are now posting again. I do not recall any recent reports. Wondering about service and safety of neighborhood etc. All things being equal, who is the better choice?
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/bristol-ct/female-escorts/latin/meet-me-linda--475304-2279-wat/039760136203[/URL]
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/bristol-ct/female-escorts/caucasian_w/back-around-seductively-succul/512028548874[/URL]
[QUOTE=PutMeInCouch;6553986]Both these gals have been around for years and both seem to have dropped off the radar for a while, and are now posting again. I do not recall any recent reports. Wondering about service and safety of neighborhood etc. All things being equal, who is the better choice?
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/bristol-ct/female-escorts/latin/meet-me-linda--475304-2279-wat/039760136203[/URL]
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/bristol-ct/female-escorts/caucasian_w/back-around-seductively-succul/512028548874[/URL][/QUOTE]Jessi if she's not on the pipe. Seems to enjoy herself.
[QUOTE=PutMeInCouch;6553986]Both these gals have been around for years and both seem to have dropped off the radar for a while, and are now posting again. I do not recall any recent reports. Wondering about service and safety of neighborhood etc. All things being equal, who is the better choice?
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/bristol-ct/female-escorts/latin/meet-me-linda--475304-2279-wat/039760136203[/URL]
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/bristol-ct/female-escorts/caucasian_w/back-around-seductively-succul/512028548874[/URL][/QUOTE]I saw Jessi years ago when she was staying with several others at a house on the infamous M street. She sent me off to some fictitious address first and then came out to greet me. She seemed nice enough until it came to doing the deed. She insisted on 'warming' herself up by grinding on me and controlling the session. I didn't care for that and wanted to enter her. I think I paid her for half hour, but left after 10 minutes pissed off that she was done and asked me to leave. Others have had better experience. So definitely a YMMV.
[QUOTE=RBlacko;6550674]I tried to see this girl in Waterbury but she gave the worst directions, telling me to go to a "visitors spot" near "mailboxes. " For one, there was no marked visitor spot at the address. By "mailboxes" does she mean the little hut-type thing with the multiple small mail containers inside?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Go see her and report back. You have 9 posts and 8 are asking for info.
[QUOTE=DragonHawk013;6547436]I see her out on cherry st during the day, and sometimes at the kellog / hillside end off of willow. Passed her a couple days ago on cherry. Havnt spoken to her in almost a year now though.[/QUOTE]DH013, I will vouch. Lady M is well worth reaching out to and visiting. I have seen her on more than several occasions and she is Well Worth one's time, travel and $$. She has told me of her (many!) no-shows, and to be honest I don't quite understand why.
She is Smoking Hot, very friendly, accommodating, open-minded. In short, she is everything a guy wants in a provider IMO. I'm no shill for anyone; I call 'them as I see 'them. I just give credit (or criticism) where it is due. She and I have discussed the possibility that a disgruntled former client (or someone else I'll just say) is churning out burner numbers and / or using burner phones to contact her, setting up phony appointments and then will give her the ghosteroo. She went through a rough spot last winter and spring and has bounced back from what I have seen.
You mentioned seeing her on Cherry and by Willow. I do recall that she walked back in the day. If she is walking again I was not aware of her doing so as I understood she had a nice spot and was seeing her clients there. I have not seen her for a little while now because of several situations within my circle but I will be hitting her up again and soon. I am some distance from her and have many, many times said to myself if I was walking along the beach, found a lamp with a Genie, one of my three wishes would be that she lives in my town or the next town over from me!
That said, for any of you swinging d*s out there who have made an appointment with her and then weenied out, do yourself a flavor and follow up with her. You won't be disappointed.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/waterbury/female-escorts/caucasian_e/post/924417191440[/URL]
Just wanted to give everyone my experience. This one will string you along. Talk to talk but not walk the walk. She will send photos and give you all the info you need but when you make an appointment and think it's all set, GHOSTED! Twice! Of course YMMV!
[QUOTE=RikkiTikkiTavi;6558350]DH013, I will vouch. Lady M is well worth reaching out to and visiting. I have seen her on more than several occasions and she is Well Worth one's time, travel and $$. She has told me of her (many!) no-shows, and to be honest I don't quite understand why.
She is Smoking Hot, very friendly, accommodating, open-minded. In short, she is everything a guy wants in a provider IMO. I'm no shill for anyone; I call 'them as I see 'them. I just give credit (or criticism) where it is due. She and I have discussed the possibility that a disgruntled former client (or someone else I'll just say) is churning out burner numbers and / or using burner phones to contact her, setting up phony appointments and then will give her the ghosteroo. She went through a rough spot last winter and spring and has bounced back from what I have seen.
You mentioned seeing her on Cherry and by Willow. I do recall that she walked back in the day. If she is walking again I was not aware of her doing so as I understood she had a nice spot and was seeing her clients there. I have not seen her for a little while now because of several situations within my circle but I will be hitting her up again and soon. I am some distance from her and have many, many times said to myself if I was walking along the beach, found a lamp with a Genie, one of my three wishes would be that she lives in my town or the next town over from me!
That said, for any of you swinging d*s out there who have made an appointment with her and then weenied out, do yourself a flavor and follow up with her. You won't be disappointed.[/QUOTE]I was replying to someone's question about Alyssa, not lady M. Never seen her myself.
[QUOTE=DragonHawk013;6558803]I was replying to someone's question about Alyssa, not lady M. Never seen her myself.[/QUOTE]Apologies, DragonHawk.
I was in the right church, wrong pew.
[QUOTE=DragonHawk013;6558803]I was replying to someone's question about Alyssa, not lady M. Never seen her myself.[/QUOTE]DragonHawk, it would have helped if I'd completely read your post.
Idiot (me; not you).
[QUOTE=PlanetEarth;6553883]We need to stop this vicious cycle. Way too many "cash & dash" reports. And way too many repeat clients getting shafted. One would assume they would treat a repeat client as gold, knowing what to expect and zero risk of his Uncle showing up.[/QUOTE]This story says everything you need to know about the respect level that women have for you spending your hard earned money to share intimacy with them. They don't respect it and we need to stop respecting their pricing if it's over 200 an hour. We need to stopp paying the inflated escort prices. No escort in Connecticut currently deserves to be paid more than 200 an hour.
Been seeing her ads for awhile now, has anyone reached out or partaken in any activities with her yet? If so please let me know either PM or right here. Want to know if she is real, location safe? Any demons? Roommates, boyfriends or pimps hanging around.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/bristol-ct/female-escorts/latin/latina-playmatenew-pics160-hh-/115543626285[/URL]
[QUOTE=CTMonger333;6562202]Been seeing her ads for awhile now, has anyone reached out or partaken in any activities with her yet? If so please let me know either PM or right here. Want to know if she is real, location safe? Any demons? Roommates, boyfriends or pimps hanging around.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/bristol-ct/female-escorts/latin/latina-playmatenew-pics160-hh-/115543626285[/URL][/QUOTE]I too am interested in seeing her. She looks interesting. Last I knew she was working out of Naugatuck in a place we all know. I've contacted her but never pulled the trigger. I'm very cautious with someone new to me.
[QUOTE=EggPoacher88;6561643]This story says everything you need to know about the respect level that women have for you spending your hard earned money to share intimacy with them. They don't respect it and we need to stop respecting their pricing if it's over 200 an hour. We need to stopp paying the inflated escort prices. No escort in Connecticut currently deserves to be paid more than 200 an hour.[/QUOTE]80/100/ hour would be dependent on how the time is spent.
There's a new poster on STG and I recognized her immediately. She was a good go to about 6 or 7 years ago. Always willing to play with another woman with you or take care of you by herself. I'd rate her a 8 for giving head. She still has the knack without a gag reflex. I paid the hundy for a nice BBBJCIM in her room in the South of Waterbury. If memory serves she was also one of the nicest working ladies of her time. A real sweet person great attitude willing to give you what you need. I did not notice any change when I saw her.
Of everything available currently in Waterbury she would be the one I recommended. She's a little bit chunkier than she used to be and she's not the most beautiful of women. She has some scarring on her face and chest but that should be no deterrent for going to see her! Very clean, very safe, and a very nice tongue!
Poo.
[QUOTE=ILoveThatPoo;6565293]There's a new poster on STG and I recognized her immediately. She was a good go to about 6 or 7 years ago. Always willing to play with another woman with you or take care of you by herself. I'd rate her a 8 for giving head. She still has the knack without a gag reflex. I paid the hundy for a nice BBBJCIM in her room in the South of Waterbury. If memory serves she was also one of the nicest working ladies of her time. A real sweet person great attitude willing to give you what you need. I did not notice any change when I saw her.
Of everything available currently in Waterbury she would be the one I recommended. She's a little bit chunkier than she used to be and she's not the most beautiful of women. She has some scarring on her face and chest but that should be no deterrent for going to see her! Very clean, very safe, and a very nice tongue!
Poo.[/QUOTE]Sounds interesting. Is there a link or name you'd like to share so that we can give her a try? Thanks.
[QUOTE=ILoveThatPoo;6565293]There's a new poster on STG and I recognized her immediately. She was a good go to about 6 or 7 years ago. Always willing to play with another woman with you or take care of you by herself. I'd rate her a 8 for giving head. She still has the knack without a gag reflex. I paid the hundy for a nice BBBJCIM in her room in the South of Waterbury. If memory serves she was also one of the nicest working ladies of her time. A real sweet person great attitude willing to give you what you need. I did not notice any change when I saw her.
Of everything available currently in Waterbury she would be the one I recommended. She's a little bit chunkier than she used to be and she's not the most beautiful of women. She has some scarring on her face and chest but that should be no deterrent for going to see her! Very clean, very safe, and a very nice tongue!
Poo.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gonzo456;6565757]Sounds interesting. Is there a link or name you'd like to share so that we can give her a try? Thanks.[/QUOTE]A blast from the past. I would say from about 10 years ago. Ask her for a face picture. You'll likely recognize her.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/waterbury/female-escorts/caucasian_w/laid-back-freak-ready-to-have-/757605002833[/URL]
[QUOTE=BBFreak;6565872]A blast from the past. I would say from about 10 years ago. Ask her for a face picture. You'll likely recognize her.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/waterbury/female-escorts/caucasian_w/laid-back-freak-ready-to-have-/757605002833[/URL][/QUOTE]So everyone must have asked for a face shot as she won't give one now, who is it?
[QUOTE=CTMonger333;6567404]So everyone must have asked for a face shot as she won't give one now, who is it?[/QUOTE]Is Autumn. Working name that is. Real name is for her to tell you. Poo.
[QUOTE=ILoveThatPoo;6565293]There's a new poster on STG and I recognized her immediately. She was a good go to about 6 or 7 years ago. Always willing to play with another woman with you or take care of you by herself. I'd rate her a 8 for giving head. She still has the knack without a gag reflex. I paid the hundy for a nice BBBJCIM in her room in the South of Waterbury. If memory serves she was also one of the nicest working ladies of her time. A real sweet person great attitude willing to give you what you need. I did not notice any change when I saw her.
Of everything available currently in Waterbury she would be the one I recommended. She's a little bit chunkier than she used to be and she's not the most beautiful of women. She has some scarring on her face and chest but that should be no deterrent for going to see her! Very clean, very safe, and a very nice tongue!
Poo.[/QUOTE]I'll take the Poo recommendation and try her out. Poo is always a reliable source.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;6567940]I'll take the Poo recommendation and try her out. Poo is always a reliable source.[/QUOTE]You can't go wrong by takings Poo's advice and recommendations. Saw her twice already and she is awesome. IMHO her location is more convenient than my current fav Miss M, and a little less expensive than my other new fav, Maya. Also she is very easy to communicate with and extremely enthusiastic. She is also either very orgasmic or a great actress. Made me feel like super lover (which I'm not). She is In a decent hotel we are all familiar with south ofWaterbury. Room was clean, no signs of demons. Did see a guy hanging around her room when I arrived. He left and didn't come back. Not sure what his deal is but I did see him come out of her room. All on all a great recommendation by Poo. Thank you sir.
Hi All, looking for info on this one, goes by kitty kat. I don't remember seeing anything. Ads go back to 2022 with what appear to be real photos. Her current ads offer rimming. I'm always looking for new rim queen to my current roster of ass eaters.
Anyone know is she real? Service? Cleanliness? Location stats?
On another note, I recently saw bellz after months of trying and jumping through several hoops. It was definitely worth it. Excellent rates, gorgeous face and body. Freshly showered and took a pounding like a champ. Her dirty talk was amazing and at the end she gave herself up to me asking for a CIP. I don't raw these bitches pussies but damn I sure did want to fill her up. Hopefully next time it is easier making the appointment.
Looking to sample greek with big booty judy and looking to sample Autumn as well.
[QUOTE=Incantation;6573718]Hi All, looking for info on this one, goes by kitty kat. I don't remember seeing anything. Ads go back to 2022 with what appear to be real photos. Her current ads offer rimming. I'm always looking for new rim queen to my current roster of ass eaters.
Anyone know is she real? Service? Cleanliness? Location stats?
On another note, I recently saw bellz after months of trying and jumping through several hoops. It was definitely worth it. Excellent rates, gorgeous face and body. Freshly showered and took a pounding like a champ. Her dirty talk was amazing and at the end she gave herself up to me asking for a CIP. I don't raw these bitches pussies but damn I sure did want to fill her up. Hopefully next time it is easier making the appointment.
Looking to sample greek with big booty judy and looking to sample Autumn as well.[/QUOTE]Bellz is great, no doubt probably the best all around. Pretty, smoking hot body, great attitude & all around a pretty cool girl.
, as for kitty kat, never saw her in person, I have seen her mug shot if you google Waterbury prostitution busts. Her mugshot & the pic of of her in the grey sweater with the white shirt in her ad is enough to make me pull the E-brake. My general thought is find the picture in their ad that is the worst of the lot & expect her to look worse than that. As for my time with Bellz, kudos to you, she never let me go raw in her kitty, I reached out to autumn, she said she was in a decent spot off 84 by NVCC. But she then had a sob story & was at naugy motor lodge, which is a no go for me. She was staying with some other girl that I'd say is underwhelming at best pics are of autumn.