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[QUOTE=MilfHunter66;6177837]Perfectredheadbaby hit me up on SA for more $ then her pro rate.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/65d57196-a90a-438d-9bd9-f23b719acf19[/URL]
This is her from the this site.
[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?572146-elegantemma[/URL]
I would never see anyone that young but just goes to show you need to double check.[/QUOTE]Good catch. Thanks for sharing. Anyone seen her before. Does she give it up bare?
Gordita.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/df794c5e-8eb6-4843-b542-778c316764f5[/URL]
Anyone got feedback on her, communication is poor. Went to facetime verify and she called, but 10 hours after the text.
She's online almost every evening, it feels pretty off but I'm curious. Thanks.
[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;6178111]Good catch. Thanks for sharing. Anyone seen her before. Does she give it up bare?[/QUOTE]She says no bare in her add. We messaged on sa and all I could get out of her was one word response. Not one smile in a picture either. I can't imagine she would be very fun or engaging.
I can get a woman twice the age for a third of the cost that will be four times the fun.
[QUOTE=MilfHunter66;6177837]Perfectredheadbaby hit me up on SA for more $ then her pro rate.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/65d57196-a90a-438d-9bd9-f23b719acf19[/URL]
This is her from the this site.
[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?572146-elegantemma[/URL]
I would never see anyone that young but just goes to show you need to double check.[/QUOTE]She's a pro, and I strongly suspect she is managed.
[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;6178111]Good catch. Thanks for sharing. Anyone seen her before. Does she give it up bare?[/QUOTE]I don't think her manager allows that. But if she's not pulling in enough money to make the manager happy, who knows what the future may hold.
[QUOTE=GreenCandles;6176491]The fact that some women truly believe their platonic time is worth ANY money at all, let alone hundreds per hour, is unbelievably delusional and extremely narcissistic. It's cause they're young and hot and get along of attention from men, but they fail to realize it's usually only their looks that are in anyway attractive. Big yikes.[/QUOTE]Never entertain paid meet and greets or platonic dates unless that's what you are looking for because they are mostly not going to be interested in an intimate arrangement with you but rather just looking for that easy money and move on to the next person. I have had a date where the women said I had to pay for the first date since she showered for it lmao. Unfortunately a lot women have this notion that they need to be compensated for just meet and greets and I usually just slam that door shut and it has worked great for me. There are plenty of fish in the pool and a lot of fun to be had.
[QUOTE=Darkhosis;6178208]Gordita.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/df794c5e-8eb6-4843-b542-778c316764f5[/URL]
Anyone got feedback on her, communication is poor. Went to facetime verify and she called, but 10 hours after the text.
She's online almost every evening, it feels pretty off but I'm curious. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Same experience. Shitty comm! I'm done. They don't even want the money they do realize they'll need! LOL.
I don't entertain any "non pros" who want to be paid by the hour, platonic or not.
A very modest "gift" for a platonic first meeting is okay. And I sincerely doubt any girl could earn a decent living getting paid $50 to go to lunch. Also there is kind of an inverse sliding scale where the nicer the restaurant I take them to, the less I am willing to pay as a "gift". Down to the point where if it is a serious high-end restaurant there is no way I am gifting anything. Since I am usually hitting up girls from smaller towns the local restaurants aren't usually very impressive.
The girls who are serious about this and need the money are going to move things to a more intimate level pretty quickly. Usually you can tell in the first fifteen or twenty minutes at the restaurant whether it is going to be on for that night.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;6179357]I don't entertain any "non pros" who want to be paid by the hour, platonic or not.
A very modest "gift" for a platonic first meeting is okay. And I sincerely doubt any girl could earn a decent living getting paid $50 to go to lunch. Also there is kind of an inverse sliding scale where the nicer the restaurant I take them to, the less I am willing to pay as a "gift". Down to the point where if it is a serious high-end restaurant there is no way I am gifting anything. Since I am usually hitting up girls from smaller towns the local restaurants aren't usually very impressive.
The girls who are serious about this and need the money are going to move things to a more intimate level pretty quickly. Usually you can tell in the first fifteen or twenty minutes at the restaurant whether it is going to be on for that night.[/QUOTE]Not for $50 no but I knew a dancer who I was friends with and would meet up with all sorts of guys for dinner and get paid $100 to even $300 for a 30 minute dinner meet and never talk to them again. Sometimes go and meet 3 to 5 guys a day. That little bit of money adds up real quick.
[QUOTE=Spacehog;6179553]Not for $50 no but I knew a dancer who I was friends with and would meet up with all sorts of guys for dinner and get paid $100 to even $300 for a 30 minute dinner meet and never talk to them again. Sometimes go and meet 3 to 5 guys a day. That little bit of money adds up real quick.[/QUOTE]For $100 I might take them through the drive through at Burger King. For $300 they are eating out of a trough.
Anything at the 13 Coins or Daniel's Broiler level or above I won't pay anything.
$50 is a good compromise, I think.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;6179357]I don't entertain any "non pros" who want to be paid by the hour, platonic or not.
A very modest "gift" for a platonic first meeting is okay. And I sincerely doubt any girl could earn a decent living getting paid $50 to go to lunch. Also there is kind of an inverse sliding scale where the nicer the restaurant I take them to, the less I am willing to pay as a "gift". Down to the point where if it is a serious high-end restaurant there is no way I am gifting anything. Since I am usually hitting up girls from smaller towns the local restaurants aren't usually very impressive.
The girls who are serious about this and need the money are going to move things to a more intimate level pretty quickly. Usually you can tell in the first fifteen or twenty minutes at the restaurant whether it is going to be on for that night.[/QUOTE]I agree this is generally good advice. Personally I don't pay for any dinner dates if they ask, but if they don't and you get the right vibe, you can slip them $50 or something after the date and that can pay off well.
I'm pretty hesitant to take them anywhere high end on the first meet unless we have chatted a lot. Sometimes it pays off with free action after (drinks helps).
The last thing you want is to drop $300 on a meal and she's a lame duck.
[QUOTE=VanDawg;6180237]...
I'm pretty hesitant to take them anywhere high end on the first meet unless we have chatted a lot. Sometimes it pays off with free action after (drinks helps).
The last thing you want is to drop $300 on a meal and she's a lame duck.[/QUOTE]My own experience has been that if you take any of these girls to a really nice restaurant you will be taking her all the way to pound town later that night. Most of these girls have never been to anything nicer than Applebees. It is actually fun watching their facial expression when they read the menu and see the prices and also how their body language changes.
So nine times out of ten I score if I take them someplace nice.
The big concern I have is that if one of these girls with a mental health issue has a freakout at a public place with me and having to explain to the waitstaff and possibly the cops how I know her.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;6180399]The big concern I have is that if one of these girls with a mental health issue has a freakout at a public place with me and having to explain to the waitstaff and possibly the cops how I know her.[/QUOTE]You can just say it's your first ever date with her. Even say it is a blind date. That should cover it.
Anyone have any intel on this one. I can't read messages there, so I'm unable to correspond with her.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dde81069-8ff1-4e7a-8320-62333a59b1a5[/URL]
Brie310 [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8bf74267-e02e-476f-99ac-48f7668fa16a[/URL].
2 pics, eventually moved to snapchat. Longterm turned into prepay PPM. M&G? "I don't do M&G".
Latinnurse [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8f3c7aee-e6b8-417a-a9e0-75b5ca9c54ec[/URL].
Needed $$$ right away for bills, kept coming down in arrangement price eventually tried to sell pics.
Good luck and buh-bye. I can't figure out if this is organized or a template passed around that girls / catfish use to score quick cash, or just bad business. I believe they're local, but I see them online most of the day which makes it look like they're fishing for suckers. If it's legit practice there must be enough guys willing to gamble away their money, something that I will never do myself.
The ask for cash upfront after spicy talk and assurances is a waste of time and getting in the way of legit negotiations. I think I might start demanding a selfie holding up x fingers before even engaging.
[QUOTE=Darkhosis;6180576]Brie310 [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8bf74267-e02e-476f-99ac-48f7668fa16a[/URL].
2 pics, eventually moved to snapchat. Longterm turned into prepay PPM. M&G? "I don't do M&G".
Latinnurse [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8f3c7aee-e6b8-417a-a9e0-75b5ca9c54ec[/URL].
Needed $$$ right away for bills, kept coming down in arrangement price eventually tried to sell pics.
Good luck and buh-bye. I can't figure out if this is organized or a template passed around that girls / catfish use to score quick cash, or just bad business. I believe they're local, but I see them online most of the day which makes it look like they're fishing for suckers. If it's legit practice there must be enough guys willing to gamble away their money, something that I will never do myself.
The ask for cash upfront after spicy talk and assurances is a waste of time and getting in the way of legit negotiations. I think I might start demanding a selfie holding up x fingers before even engaging.[/QUOTE]I have spent far to much time and energy on that site.
There are way to many gals just looking for a quick buck with no intentions of meeting or being with you. I've had four actual meet ups. One scammed me pretty good. One I could look into her eyes an tell she had no soul. One is still out for debate. The last one I'm seeing tomorrow for a date that should include some adult fun. If that works out that's 25% success rate after meeting.
Then there's all the ones that I wasted time on online or through text. Once they realized I wasn't going to fall for there scam they were gone.
Had one gal I was texting with that was there to keep me just on the site. She must be getting paid to talk with guys. She was giving me answers to questions I didn't ask. Today I told her I was off work. The reply back was have a nice day at work. WTF have I've been texting with a bot.
Then there's the ones you have a good feel about. The messages are really looking like there interested in you. Then nothing. They have been online several days but still haven't read the last message you sent. They never reply back.
I'm at a point where I have zero patients any longer. If it looks like I'm remotely being played I end the Convo and block.
If I was closer to Seattle I'm sure there would be a bigger pool of legit gals. Since I've been targeting the Tacoma area and south the real ones are far and few between.
Sorry for my rant. I think it's time just to go back to the real pro's.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;6180399]My own experience has been that if you take any of these girls to a really nice restaurant you will be taking her all the way to pound town later that night. Most of these girls have never been to anything nicer than Applebees. It is actually fun watching their facial expression when they read the menu and see the prices and also how their body language changes.
So nine times out of ten I score if I take them someplace nice.
The big concern I have is that if one of these girls with a mental health issue has a freakout at a public place with me and having to explain to the waitstaff and possibly the cops how I know her.[/QUOTE]Yes for sure, and the sex is better after the fancy place, their attitude changes, compared to giving them some cash.
But I don't take them there before we've met for coffee or something quick. To make sure they are real, match their pics, and not insane.
There are lots of girls on there either naive or tired of dating broke losers that are happy to spread their legs for a guy that can show them a good time. They've done worse before! If it's more like regular dating then they are more likely to CIP, swallow, etc.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;6180399]My own experience has been that if you take any of these girls to a really nice restaurant you will be taking her all the way to pound town later that night. Most of these girls have never been to anything nicer than Applebees. It is actually fun watching their facial expression when they read the menu and see the prices and also how their body language changes.
So nine times out of ten I score if I take them someplace nice.
The big concern I have is that if one of these girls with a mental health issue has a freakout at a public place with me and having to explain to the waitstaff and possibly the cops how I know her.[/QUOTE]What is a typical nice place that you usually go to? Like $20 cocktail? 45 $ dinner plate? I'm curious about the scale of how fancy a place you pick to impress. Thanks for the tip!
[QUOTE=Jy2019;6181953]What is a typical nice place that you usually go to? Like $20 cocktail? 45 $ dinner plate? I'm curious about the scale of how fancy a place you pick to impress. Thanks for the tip![/QUOTE]The prototypical place I go in the Seattle area is one of the Daniel's Broiler locations.
A little bit down the scale but still generally nice (and great for eating outside in the summer) is Anthony's Home Port.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/04f12c07-9d17-4c6e-8f49-04b62aabf6a4[/URL]
Another $5 for ppm. Maybe worth it but I'm not going to TOFTT at that price. Her account is new so maybe after a bit she will come down a bit.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;6182066]The prototypical place I go in the Seattle area is one of the Daniel's Broiler locations.
A little bit down the scale but still generally nice (and great for eating outside in the summer) is Anthony's Home Port.[/QUOTE]I usually try and make sure the restaurant is independent (though using a popular name like Anthony's or Daniel's Broiler will be a plus for them when they brag to their friends), usually I get out with $175-200 total including drinks. Tip may make it slightly over $200. The one warning about this is that you DO NOT want to take her to a place where they offer $500+ bottles of wine. People that normally drink White Claw suddenly turn into expensive wine aficionados.
Light chatting, off to text where she said her ppm starts at 500-1000. I wish her well.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/380b01ce-c261-485e-88ac-24b7fdb17df8[/URL]
[QUOTE=Irwin18;6183644]Light chatting, off to text where she said her ppm starts at 500-1000. I wish her well.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/380b01ce-c261-485e-88ac-24b7fdb17df8[/URL][/QUOTE]Got the same response, said bb is ok with recent test.
Went to text almost immediately. Quoted $500-1000, came down to $400. I really didn't care about spending that much on someone who won't show her face. Or meet.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6030c656-3fb4-44df-9b93-7e2b31c3790a[/URL]
[QUOTE=Irwin18;6186268]Went to text almost immediately. Quoted $500-1000, came down to $400. I really didn't care about spending that much on someone who won't show her face. Or meet.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6030c656-3fb4-44df-9b93-7e2b31c3790a[/URL][/QUOTE]Seriously, why would you even speak to her? Her profile is just anger.
[QUOTE=MilfHunter66;6182195][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/04f12c07-9d17-4c6e-8f49-04b62aabf6a4[/URL]
Another $5 for ppm. Maybe worth it but I'm not going to TOFTT at that price. Her account is new so maybe after a bit she will come down a bit.[/QUOTE]She's hitting me up over here in Spokane! Must be desperate. Frankly, Seeking is really the only game in town over here. The Hobby scene has been garbage dump for a while now.
[QUOTE=Money420;6187961]She's hitting me up over here in Spokane! Must be desperate. Frankly, Seeking is really the only game in town over here. The Hobby scene has been garbage dump for a while now.[/QUOTE]I think she or whoever is trying to scam. She came back at me with a 3. 5 offer. I said yes sure when do you want to meet. Never heard anything back. From what I could tell the last message I sent was never read.
I think most of these aren't real.
I can't link the profile because I blocked her but had another wack job trying way to hard. After I said no I wasn't interested she kept trying. Two days later she hit me up again I said no. Then a few more day she texted me again. I finally told her I wouldn't even see her for free and she still kept trying to sell herself.
I don't think theses girls are getting very many takers.
Any one met with this one yet?
Gorgeous 25 year old in Seattle.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/48927bdc-48a8-4863-a9b2-dc48138b0904[/URL]
Anyone come across this Norwegian beauty so far?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/48927bdc-48a8-4863-a9b2-dc48138b0904[/URL]
[QUOTE=Baddaddy2021;6190158]Any one met with this one yet?
Gorgeous 25 year old in Seattle.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/48927bdc-48a8-4863-a9b2-dc48138b0904[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Baddaddy2021;6190159]Anyone come across this Norwegian beauty so far?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/48927bdc-48a8-4863-a9b2-dc48138b0904[/URL][/QUOTE]Did you mean to enter another?
[QUOTE=Baddaddy2021;6190159]Anyone come across this Norwegian beauty so far?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/48927bdc-48a8-4863-a9b2-dc48138b0904[/URL][/QUOTE]Correct link:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/683dd945-5b42-4170-9da9-095b758e8010[/URL]
[QUOTE=HBadger;4881582]Thought I'd share since I'm off SA again. She allowed bbcip, bbcia, super good dt, loved getting called *****, **** and everything else dirty. Super good kisser is you like that. She's super kinky and loves getting told what to do. She's not fat but she's also not skinny, a little bigger than average. Mom tummy I would say. Either way, she was fun. Damage was 3.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/aff10a0b-dab2-48f3-b686-b3bd84907e4b[/URL][/QUOTE]She seems to be very open, always indicating she's up to meet that night. Anyone seen her?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b26261ed-09b4-487c-9b07-62dcb7ad8d9d[/URL]
Holy shit, this ladies pics just totally do it for me. Amazing tight bod and tats. Anyone ever see her?
Or anyone know a provider like her? I might have to break my 300 limit, hehe.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/991e9ca6-7ff2-4606-aebd-c128e7d0d77b[/URL]
[QUOTE=Baddaddy2021;6190470]Correct link:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/683dd945-5b42-4170-9da9-095b758e8010[/URL][/QUOTE]GPS, not sure if pro. Initially asked for 1 k ppm (if I remember correctly). When I said I won't do that, asked me for what I'm willing. I came back with 500. She was still willing but said can't stay for more than 30-45 minutes for that. I just declined, and then ghosted her as she attempted a couple more times to get me for 500 for that time limit.
For some strange reason, I'm in Aberdeen. I contacted someone on SA and did a meet & greet. I immediately realized it wasn't going to work out but I gave her dinner and was going to toss $50 her way when I took her home. Well, on the way home she offered to blow and fuck me for $60! I was stunned. So I did it and gave her $100 (because I couldn't give her $60 and live with myself). Nothing special to write home about, but $100 damn that's cheap.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;6191310]For some strange reason, I'm in Aberdeen. I contacted someone on SA and did a meet & greet. I immediately realized it wasn't going to work out but I gave her dinner and was going to toss $50 her way when I took her home. Well, on the way home she offered to blow and fuck me for $60! I was stunned. So I did it and gave her $100 (because I couldn't give her $60 and live with myself). Nothing special to write home about, but $100 damn that's cheap.[/QUOTE]And you know, I kind of like small town girls too. They're far more easily impressed by dinners especially since they're used to being taken out to McDonalds while being expected to pay for their own burger. My personal favorite cities while traveling? St. Joseph, Missouri, Crestview, Florida and Prattville, Alabama.
[QUOTE=BoBroBgobs;6191190]GPS, not sure if pro. Initially asked for 1 k ppm (if I remember correctly). When I said I won't do that, asked me for what I'm willing. I came back with 500. She was still willing but said can't stay for more than 30-45 minutes for that. I just declined, and then ghosted her as she attempted a couple more times to get me for 500 for that time limit.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the insight. I will report back to the group if if I meet her.
[QUOTE=TnaPorter;6191324]And you know, I kind of like small town girls too. They're far more easily impressed by dinners especially since they're used to being taken out to McDonalds while being expected to pay for their own burger. My personal favorite cities while traveling? St. Joseph, Missouri, Crestview, Florida and Prattville, Alabama.[/QUOTE]In big cities there are all sorts of options, but in small towns, especially if there is a college, SA is by far the best option.
If it were legalized and regulated. Girls could operate in safer environments, more guys would stop being stupid pervs because they would have regular access to sex, it would separate legit providers from the crazy scammers. Prices would go down to sane levels. Just look at the marijuana market as an example. Still premium product available for people with excess cash, but you can walk out of any shop with quality weed for a fun night under $20.
I'm relatively new to the hobby, and my first experience was in Europe. So I am still shocked how an hour of sex (it's not even an hour, just one shot) with borderline to somewhat attractive women is $300+. I'll leave the pros out of this. Sure that's understandable if you're hideously deformed and rich, but most guys are regular joes who are just looking to maintain their sexual wellbeing. It's why there are so many scams on both sides because everyone knows it's a ripoff and we end up with these silly game between horny men and naive women. End rant.
[QUOTE=Darkhosis;6192011]If it were legalized and regulated. Girls could operate in safer environments, more guys would stop being stupid pervs because they would have regular access to sex, it would separate legit providers from the crazy scammers. Prices would go down to sane levels. Just look at the marijuana market as an example. Still premium product available for people with excess cash, but you can walk out of any shop with quality weed for a fun night under $20.
I'm relatively new to the hobby, and my first experience was in Europe. So I am still shocked how an hour of sex (it's not even an hour, just one shot) with borderline to somewhat attractive women is $300+. I'll leave the pros out of this. Sure that's understandable if you're hideously deformed and rich, but most guys are regular joes who are just looking to maintain their sexual wellbeing. It's why there are so many scams on both sides because everyone knows it's a ripoff and we end up with these silly game between horny men and naive women. End rant.[/QUOTE]Well put. Who else but us would be most motivated to see laws change? If stoners worked as hard as they did to drive legalization of marijuana, who do you think will drive legalism of sex work? Or at least decriminalization for the women? TBH, that's the realistic and logical card to back. One of us who doesn't have an account, a lurker, is probably the one, so they can emerge untarnished, so to speak, and put the right players in place to see this through to law: Decriminalize Sex Workers from felony or even misdemeanor charges, so women of high libido who know they can make extra money providing valuable sexual release and relief don't have to worry about the stigmatization of prostitution, as there would be no stigma any longer. They're all just working different angles. Side hustles. If they're on the street, they're probably just realizing their value, and learning the ropes, but perhaps through the wrong channels; If they're in a massage parlor, they are looking for extra cash to send home, and extra money to start they own business. If they're private residents who have frequent visitors all through the day to host them for sexual pleasure, let them enjoy the joys of private erotic play as two consenting adults to, yes, financial terms. And so on. Including our lovely sugar babies, the pretty girls who can't afford college or their bills, as hard as they worked, because of our fucked up economy, our obscene fuel prices.
We'll deal with the mongers later. If you're that guy or girl, we'd appreciate it if you act on this now. <start /.