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Advice on clubs
Hello everyone. I live in northern Il and was thinking about taking a little vacation and visiting some of your clubs. It would be hard to visit every club, so my question is what places would you recommend and which ones to stay away from in the centreville area. I'm not into the clubs with feature dancers and really high prices. I would rather give up really hot women for avarage looking girls if its a place that is kind of low rent, laid back, low hustle factor, cheap beer, etc. Just a fun place to hang out. Also if you have any other tips or warnings about the area it would be much appreciated.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Username; 1315619]About my previous post, I was talking about post #2418. As for the hourly wage thing. A misconception I guess, or an error on my part. Actually I think its about the higher end clubs only. That is how a club like hollywood gets the hot girls isn't it?
Any a couple other general observations I made since the last time I made the rounds. I was told by a lady at wise guys that most of the clubs stopped the jump off the stage routine back in the summer. I wasn't aware the clubs in WP had any coluded on anythign and in fact thought hey were fierce competitors, but it looks like see-mowes and dollies are the only ones still doing it. I didn't go to all the clubs but I'd be interested to know if thats actually true. Was the only ones I saw it at though. If you ask me that has the unintended effect of basically making hollywood much better because well, they never did that and have much hotter dancers. Also reduces my field of clubs even worth going to in WP to hollywood, dollies, see-mowes, and wise guys just because they don't make you pay a cover to hang a bit. But thats it.
Didn't include blondies because like I said in my last post, if you go there you are basically asking to be robbed.
Next time I'm in town I'll be sure to checkout centreville and Brooklyn for the first time in awhile to see how things are going. May even go to sauget for the first time. Never really gets much comment here though.[/QUOTE]I have spent much time at Blondies (as well as all the others you mention) and NEVER had any of the problems you speak of.
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Stippers and Money
One day, a few years ago, a pair of girls moved into the apartment down the hall from me. Both were blonde and pretty and had GREAT tits. One was wearing a shirt that said "L (blocked by ponytail) , Gentlman's Club, Washington Park, IL" Paydirt, strippers in the building! Over time I learned a bit about the economics of strip clubs. The dancers are independent contractors (some pizza delivery companies hire drivers as contractors as well). They pay to work (so do some hair stylists). They are responsible for their own taxes and workmen's comp (I also know an insurance adjustor. 50 something female librarian type, who spent an hour watching dancers at PTs. A dancer claimed a sprained ankle on the stage condition.) Neighbor girl made about $500 a night between stages and privates. She worked four nights a week and went to school. The only guys I saw come home with her were hunky bodybuilder types so they were probably hook ups not take outs. She paid for schooling and retired for Hustler. Her roomie was a secretary. She made about 1/3 of the stripper.
I saw her dance once. I do not know her stage name. I declined the private offered (no discount either). If you were a hustler regular about 8 years ago and liked a 6' blonde with thick thighs and DD bolt ons, that was her. Of course, that could be several hers.
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A quick breakdown
[QUOTE=Cruising Y; 1315673]Hello, everyone. I live in northern Il and was thinking about taking a little vacation and visiting some of your clubs. It would be hard to visit every club, so my question is what places would you recommend and which ones to stay away from in the centreville area. I'm not into the clubs with feature dancers and really high prices. I would rather give up really hot women for avarage looking girls if its a place that is kind of low rent, laid back, low hustle factor, cheap beer, etc. Just a fun place to hang out. Also if you have any other tips or warnings about the area it would be much appreciated.
Thanks[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9759-St.-Louis-FAQ&p=1136916&viewfull=1#post1136916[/url] And a few of the other posts in the FAQ.
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Saftey
[QUOTE=Username;1315619]Didn't include blondies because like I said in my last post, if you go there you are basically asking to be robbed.[/QUOTE]Ron, the on again off again manager at both Wise Guys and Cheeks, is now the manager at Blondies. Even before he was there, I never had an issue inside the club. They have outside security sitting in a car. The have multiple security cameras around the building being monitored by the door man. And everytime I have left, the door guy has walked out with me till I was in my car.
Not sure what else you would need to feel safe there.
Bored.
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Miss Kitty's
Went to Miss Kitty's a couple weeks ago. Hung out with a dancer named Fantasy I think. Good looking brunette with a nice body. Did a two song private. No extras offered and I didn't ask but she gave a good lap dance. Lots of slow grinding like I like. Don't remember the damage but it was way less than $.
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[QUOTE=DirtyDuke;1314194]Thanks KC and Wjones. I was there Monday at around 4:30 so that should explain things. If I have the chance I'll be back soon and not on a Monday and will report any goings on.[/QUOTE]Bianca works days. Definitely Saturday.
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[QUOTE=Boredagain09;1316151]Not sure what else you would need to feel safe there.[/QUOTE]A different location?
I've never felt uncomfortable in the daylight. I've been there and across the street at night but the frequency is declining as I age.
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Kaleah from Kitty's
Anyone know where Kaleah landed after Miss Kitty's?
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Hollywood and Dollies
First stop tonight was Hollywood about 7:30pm. I guess about 15 dancers or so. Right at shift change. Some pretty good looking girls, and some very pretty with tiny tits. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I met Italia, and spent 30 minutes talking to her about a lot of things in common from our past lives. Very nice lady. The bartender kind of pissed me off about 8; 15 when she noticed I filled my beer bottle with water. She didn't believe that I had to get bloodwork done tomorrow (true) and gave me attitude about it. So I said OK, I'll leave, and did. I'm old, set in my ways, don't drink more than a beer when I'm driving, and don't need to take shit from a fat ass bartender with floppy tits. By the way, I found out the dancers tip out at Hollywood is $100. Wow, steep.
Second stop was Dollie's. Short, sweet and very interesting. No one collecting cover charge, no one really caring if I bought a beer. I bought a 4. 50 beer and sat at the stage on the right with a mature lady I noticed sitting on the stage when I walked in. Bunnie I think. Several firsts with her. 1st time in a club where she had a big bottle of cocoa butter lotion and wanted me to rub her all over with it. So I did, and it was fun. First time I've ever had dances with a mute. I don't think she's deaf, because she moved with the music. But she communicated by writing. I liked her big boobs, so I took her to the cubicles. The girl's got skills! Had a very nice time.
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Hollywood's drinks
Horn, Hollywood sells bottled water for around $8 per bottle. Take it in the john with you and refill it. I never leave my drink on the table when I go to the john.
The day shift chicks seem more approachable and friendly. Night shift chicks are all business.
[QUOTE=Horn Dog Too; 1317983]First stop tonight was Hollywood about 7:30pm. I guess about 15 dancers or so. Right at shift change. Some pretty good looking girls, and some very pretty with tiny tits. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I met Italia, and spent 30 minutes talking to her about a lot of things in common from our past lives. Very nice lady. The bartender kind of pissed me off about 8; 15 when she noticed I filled my beer bottle with water. She didn't believe that I had to get bloodwork done tomorrow (true) and gave me attitude about it. So I said OK, I'll leave, and did. I'm old, set in my ways, don't drink more than a beer when I'm driving, and don't need to take shit from a fat ass bartender with floppy tits. By the way, I found out the dancers tip out at Hollywood is $100. Wow, steep.
Second stop was Dollie's. Short, sweet and very interesting. No one collecting cover charge, no one really caring if I bought a beer. I bought a 4. 50 beer and sat at the stage on the right with a mature lady I noticed sitting on the stage when I walked in. Bunnie I think. Several firsts with her. 1st time in a club where she had a big bottle of cocoa butter lotion and wanted me to rub her all over with it. So I did, and it was fun. First time I've ever had dances with a mute. I don't think she's deaf, because she moved with the music. But she communicated by writing. I liked her big boobs, so I took her to the cubicles. The girl's got skills! Had a very nice time.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Horn Dog Too; 1317983]First stop tonight was Hollywood about 7:30pm. I guess about 15 dancers or so. Right at shift change. Some pretty good looking girls, and some very pretty with tiny tits. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I met Italia, and spent 30 minutes talking to her about a lot of things in common from our past lives. Very nice lady. The bartender kind of pissed me off about 8; 15 when she noticed I filled my beer bottle with water. She didn't believe that I had to get bloodwork done tomorrow (true) and gave me attitude about it. So I said OK, I'll leave, and did. I'm old, set in my ways, don't drink more than a beer when I'm driving, and don't need to take shit from a fat ass bartender with floppy tits. By the way, I found out the dancers tip out at Hollywood is $100. Wow, steep.
Second stop was Dollie's. Short, sweet and very interesting. No one collecting cover charge, no one really caring if I bought a beer. I bought a 4. 50 beer and sat at the stage on the right with a mature lady I noticed sitting on the stage when I walked in. Bunnie I think. Several firsts with her. 1st time in a club where she had a big bottle of cocoa butter lotion and wanted me to rub her all over with it. So I did, and it was fun. First time I've ever had dances with a mute. I don't think she's deaf, because she moved with the music. But she communicated by writing. I liked her big boobs, so I took her to the cubicles. The girl's got skills! Had a very nice time.[/QUOTE]Yes, bunny is deaf / mute. I know her pretty well and we either communicate via txt or she calls me on that tty thing where the operator calls and she types into a machine and the operator reads it, and when I respond vocally, he types it to her. She dances in rythm by feeling the vibrations of the music through the floor. Also, not sure "mature" would be accurate as that implies a older / MILF type (at least to me) , and I think she is about 30 tops, probably a little younger. Regardless though, you are correct. Very slender but with a great natural rack, and very "fun" girl. Her sister also used to work there with her and they communicated via sign language, but of course the sister was not deaf. She was a wild one too. She no longer works there though.
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[QUOTE=Wjones;1318015]Yes, bunny is deaf / mute. I know her pretty well and we either communicate via txt or she calls me on that tty thing where the operator calls and she types into a machine and the operator reads it, and when I respond vocally, he types it to her. She dances in rythm by feeling the vibrations of the music through the floor. Also, not sure "mature" would be accurate as that implies a older / MILF type (at least to me) , and I think she is about 30 tops, probably a little younger. Regardless though, you are correct. Very slender but with a great natural rack, and very "fun" girl. Her sister also used to work there with her and they communicated via sign language, but of course the sister was not deaf. She was a wild one too. She no longer works there though.[/QUOTE]One last thing about the sister. I was offered a duo from them via carry-out. I passed, but probably should have taken them up on the offer. They said no girl-girl stuff since sisters, but I still thought it would be interesting!
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Hollywood
[QUOTE=Horn Dog Too; 1317983]First stop tonight was Hollywood about 7:30pm. I guess about 15 dancers or so. Right at shift change. Some pretty good looking girls, and some very pretty with tiny tits. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I met Italia, and spent 30 minutes talking to her about a lot of things in common from our past lives. Very nice lady. The bartender kind of pissed me off about 8; 15 when she noticed I filled my beer bottle with water. She didn't believe that I had to get bloodwork done tomorrow (true) and gave me attitude about it. So I said OK, I'll leave, and did. I'm old, set in my ways, don't drink more than a beer when I'm driving, and don't need to take shit from a fat ass bartender with floppy tits. By the way, I found out the dancers tip out at Hollywood is $100. Wow, steep.
Second stop was Dollie's. Short, sweet and very interesting. No one collecting cover charge, no one really caring if I bought a beer. I bought a 4. 50 beer and sat at the stage on the right with a mature lady I noticed sitting on the stage when I walked in. Bunnie I think. Several firsts with her. 1st time in a club where she had a big bottle of cocoa butter lotion and wanted me to rub her all over with it. So I did, and it was fun. First time I've ever had dances with a mute. I don't think she's deaf, because she moved with the music. But she communicated by writing. I liked her big boobs, so I took her to the cubicles. The girl's got skills! Had a very nice time.[/QUOTE]100 for the tip out doesn't surprise me. Last I heard it was 90 but I guess everything is going up in price these days. Hollywood has the traffic and the younger, more attractive girls don't seem to have any problem coming up with that amount each night.
Another thing Hollywood does differently is that they require that cash up front at the beginning of the shift where most of the other clubs let the girls pay at the end of the shift. I've also heard stories from several dancers that worked there that if you call in sick, you are still expected to pay the maintenance fees for any days you missed. Miss one day and you better bring in enough for two days or they send you right home. Explains why only the youngest and most attractive can cut it there. Hit your upper 20's and now you are competing with a bunch of girls between 18 and 23. Pretty soon they are out of there and at a different spot.
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Ballin on a budget
I'm thinking of taking an eastside day trip. How much should I expect to spend if I'm seeking extras?