Non Pro's

[QUOTE=Paradigum;4727867]Just a warning to everyone that I have noticed an uptick in the desperation and tactics being used by SBs.[/QUOTE]As of three weeks ago I cut all of the girls on my rotation off. I told them as politely as I could that until this sh*t is sorted out I wouldn't be seeing them. As you can imagine my phone has been lit up with a lot of crazy stuff. I can understand why they are upset but this situation is pretty messed up and it just isn't safe to be swapping spit with random girls right now.

My favorite of the bunch cut me off in mid-Feb before this covid stuff was really on my radar. She's now been graduated early and is working in a hospital in Seattle.

Curious if anyone has seen this girl or contacted her? I'm interested but don't have a membership so can't read her messages she sent to me. Maybe if she had another number to contact her with?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/431d862c-37d2-4b18-9f95-319fb3eaaf29[/URL]

Still some to choose from. Unfortunately, it seems like sugar baby etiquette school is teaching a lot of the young girls to ask for upfront payment before meeting up.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5fb04820-bdd5-4516-8035-1ca381274467[/URL] - She's one.

[QUOTE=Rjx1234;4732246]Too late, her profile is gone. Damn, guys, way to scare off the baby ones LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kharne;4736779]Curious if anyone has seen this girl or contacted her? I'm interested but don't have a membership so can't read her messages she sent to me. Maybe if she had another number to contact her with?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/431d862c-37d2-4b18-9f95-319fb3eaaf29[/URL][/QUOTE]Been in messages with her and were talking about ppm but she just stopped replying.

[QUOTE=Rjx1234;4732246]Too late, her profile is gone. Damn, guys, way to scare off the baby ones LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah thanks to you guys who told her about the post. She wasn't happy. I assumed you guys had some sense to know to just message her and approach her normally on the site. Assumed wrong and therefore won't share any more info on anyone. Idiots.

[QUOTE=Kharne;4736779]Curious if anyone has seen this girl or contacted her? I'm interested but don't have a membership so can't read her messages she sent to me. Maybe if she had another number to contact her with?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/431d862c-37d2-4b18-9f95-319fb3eaaf29[/URL][/QUOTE]Send me a message a few days ago asking to hook up. Lots of gals looking right now and she was not what I was looking for so I passed. Get the one month reoccurring membership, get a ton of numbers now (lot of them wanting to go to kik or text ASAP) then cancel the membership and work your leads.

[QUOTE=Pooner05;4737090]Yeah thanks to you guys who told her about the post. She wasn't happy. I assumed you guys had some sense to know to just message her and approach her normally on the site. Assumed wrong and therefore won't share any more info on anyone. Idiots.[/QUOTE]Learned that lesson years ago. If you say something about someone here and give contact info it only invites trouble. Most of us will just try and hook up, but others will contact them and say something to the effect of, "XXXXX said you did CIP, BBBJ, CIA for $200. I just wanted to find out if that was true. " They will then come back here and complain that they can't meet anyone on SA. The only time I've given information on an SB is when I'm done with them.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;4737901]Learned that lesson years ago. If you say something about someone here and give contact info it only invites trouble. Most of us will just try and hook up, but others will contact them and say something to the effect of, "XXXXX said you did CIP, BBBJ, CIA for $200. I just wanted to find out if that was true. " They will then come back here and complain that they can't meet anyone on SA. The only time I've given information on an SB is when I'm done with them.[/QUOTE]While there is a great amount of info here and many active in posting info, the hurdle is so many in the shadow and just watching, when this happens is when some will be a little more quiet.

To be active with good info giving input good and bad helps everyone.

Word. I share baby intel privately with one Portland monger who I trust because we keep the intel between us and because like me he does the necessary leg work (active on SA, contacts and meets the girls). Successfully operating within the sugar game requires tactful closing skills, complete independence or privately sharing intel within close circles. As Michael1967 said posting intel on a baby will open them up to tactless escort minded mongers who are not experienced with sugar girls.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;4737901]Learned that lesson years ago. If you say something about someone here and give contact info it only invites trouble. Most of us will just try and hook up, but others will contact them and say something to the effect of, "XXXXX said you did CIP, BBBJ, CIA for $200. I just wanted to find out if that was true. " They will then come back here and complain that they can't meet anyone on SA. The only time I've given information on an SB is when I'm done with them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HuksAlot;4738102]Word. I share baby intel privately with one Portland monger who I trust because we keep the intel between us and because like me he does the necessary leg work (active on SA, contacts and meets the girls). Successfully operating within the sugar game requires tactful closing skills, complete independence or privately sharing intel within close circles. As Michael1967 said posting intel on a baby will open them up to tactless escort minded mongers who are not experienced with sugar girls.[/QUOTE]Lesson learned fellas. Luckily she's forgiven me and is still open to things to continue. Working a few other leads that I'm hoping will fill my personal needs and will cancel the membership. Happy hunting to the guys out there with sense.

[QUOTE=HuksAlot;4738102]Word. I share baby intel privately with one Portland monger who I trust because we keep the intel between us and because like me he does the necessary leg work (active on SA, contacts and meets the girls). Successfully operating within the sugar game requires tactful closing skills, complete independence or privately sharing intel within close circles. As Michael1967 said posting intel on a baby will open them up to tactless escort minded mongers who are not experienced with sugar girls.[/QUOTE]Yes, please, please, do not tell SBs about them being mentioned here. It would only backfire, one the SB most likely would go under the radar and two people would stop sharing intel.

Also sharing contact info that is not public, is not cool. SA is not TNA

[QUOTE=DelToro;4738528]Also sharing contact info that is not public, is not cool. SA is not TNA[/QUOTE]I don't know why people don't understand this. I've had PMs asking me to share phone numbers of girls on SA and they make it sound like I'm somehow being stingy or greedy. It's not that at all -- it's rude and there's a 0% chance that a message / phone call from an unknown person would ever be welcome by an SA girl.

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;4739301]I don't know why people don't understand this. I've had PMs asking me to share phone numbers of girls on SA and they make it sound like I'm somehow being stingy or greedy. It's not that at all -- it's rude and there's a 0% chance that a message / phone call from an unknown person would ever be welcome by an SA girl.[/QUOTE]Its more annoying when someone has been on here 3 years and has like 3 posts and wants pertinent info.

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;4739301]I don't know why people don't understand this. I've had PMs asking me to share phone numbers of girls on SA and they make it sound like I'm somehow being stingy or greedy. It's not that at all -- it's rude and there's a 0% chance that a message / phone call from an unknown person would ever be welcome by an SA girl.[/QUOTE]Incorrect, it depends on the girl. I've done both ways with success prior to the current situation. Some SA girls were OK with the calls. There are many mongers out there that aren't able to sign up for a paid SA account because of their life situation, as I was for a while, and I had a few great experiences because info was shared on this board privately and, of course, because I didn't act like a dick. It's very easy- you don't mention this board and say something like, "Hey, my friend (whatever you and the other monger discuss) gave me your number. " Again, YMMV but it's absolutely not a hard and fast rule.

I think especially these days more SA providers will be willing to increase their client base given that so many are going to be out of work. 6.6 m people applied for unemployment last week and best guesses are that the overall unemployment rate is 13%, the worst since the Great Depression, and that is likely to go up.

SA girls like to act like they aren't prostitutes and treating them differently to their face is how we get what we want out of the situation but here on this forum can we stop acting like providers you find on SA are different from overtly "out" providers that post on STG and the other board? They are taking money and providing sex in return. We can at least be honest with our fellow hobbyists. No female opens an account on SA with any illusions about what most of the men on their are looking for.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;4739674]Incorrect, it depends on the girl. I've done both ways with success prior to the current situation. Some SA girls were OK with the calls. There are many mongers out there that aren't able to sign up for a paid SA account because of their life situation, as I was for a while, and I had a few great experiences because info was shared on this board privately and, of course, because I didn't act like a dick. It's very easy- you don't mention this board and say something like, "Hey, my friend (whatever you and the other monger discuss) gave me your number. " Again, YMMV but it's absolutely not a hard and fast rule.

I think especially these days more SA providers will be willing to increase their client base given that so many are going to be out of work. 6.6 m people applied for unemployment last week and best guesses are that the overall unemployment rate is 13%, the worst since the Great Depression, and that is likely to go up.

SA girls like to act like they aren't prostitutes and treating them differently to their face is how we get what we want out of the situation but here on this forum can we stop acting like providers you find on SA are different from overtly "out" providers that post on STG and the other board? They are taking money and providing sex in return. We can at least be honest with our fellow hobbyists. No female opens an account on SA with any illusions about what most of the men on their are looking for.[/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree. I think the difference with SA is that many ladies are looking to supplement their income or just looking for one or two guys that will give them money. They don't rent hotel rooms and try and see a bunch of guys like ladies on the other sites. They like to go to dinner; they like to try and build some sort of connection. They don't show up at your hotel at 11:00 and are walking out at 11:59. They don't hang up the phone after 30 seconds because you're "wasting their time". They are definitely different and it's why I won't ever use those other sites again. I will agree there are definitely providers on SA and I'm able to weed them out in all of 10 minutes (if they start asking about meeting within during the first convo, then they are just providers pretending to be SBs). For the women that I've seen, EVERY one of them would be beyond mortified if I gave some other guy their name and phone number and he tried to hit them up. If you told 90% of the ladies that I've seen that they were providers, they would be upset and shocked.

Saying that the ladies on SA are not different is like saying we guys are all the same and looking for the same thing. Yes, we all want to get laid (and the ladies all want money), but some of us want to find as many of the hottest, tightest thing they can find that will go BB in all holes and others may want to find one or two attractive ladies to chill with who aren't too demanding. Ladies on SA are just as different as we are.