WYP, SA, and other SD sites

Is real. I wasn't attracted to her after our m&g so decided to pass. Didn't discuss allowance since it wasn't going to be a go for me unless it was free and I knew that wasn't happening.

[QUOTE=NormGerd;5715494]Even though my premium has expired, I am still talking to a few ladies who I am considering. Looking for any intel:

FemmeFatalee.

Difficult scheduling as she works two jobs. I am sure she is real. Anyone know the scoop?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/39a2a76f-aa52-47cd-9b9c-0e9a3d00cdc1[/URL]

EspanaGirl.

Talking but getting an odd vibe. Wants to meet asap to FC, which raises red flags to skip the M&G.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d475f0e9-2860-41f0-a1d7-fd3a9f9cc2e3[/URL]

Taylor.

Was talking, then went radio silent. Still may follow up if there is good intel.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d475f0e9-2860-41f0-a1d7-fd3a9f9cc2e3[/URL]

JLaur.

Nice, friendly. Working on a time to meet. No amount discussed yet, pre M&G.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/archive/92133bb3-f878-4db0-bbc5-29e614957c54[/URL]

I surely appreciate any insight into these ladies.

Norm![/QUOTE]

I've been curious about this one as well. We've been chatting for a bit and she seems very eager to meet. I've just been busy.

I could have sworn I've seen her face before with a different profile. Has she been discussed on here in the past?

[QUOTE=ProCatHunter;5716493]Is real. I wasn't attracted to her after our m&g so decided to pass. Didn't discuss allowance since it wasn't going to be a go for me unless it was free and I knew that wasn't happening.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure he found her on SA and while this occurred in DC, always respect the women.

[URL]https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/01/montgomery-co-man-sentenced-to-year-in-prison-for-abusing-blackmailing-woman-for-sex/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jackbenimble17;5716547]I'm pretty sure he found her on SA and while this occurred in DC, always respect the women.

[URL]https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/01/montgomery-co-man-sentenced-to-year-in-prison-for-abusing-blackmailing-woman-for-sex/[/URL][/QUOTE]He only got 1 year. Who comes up with these ideas to blackmail a woman for sex. Thats a very sick individual, he only cares about himself. He should have gotten 5 years.

[QUOTE=AnomBox;5703465]Looking to take this one for a spin soon. Anybody interact with her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6e238001-82fa-4135-b605-3d02fbc4adf9[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BuffBill75;5703513]I just started talking to her. PM me. If you want to compare notes.[/QUOTE]So, have either of you met her or are you keeping the notes to yourself, LOL.

Am curious if she still wants allowance for M&G and will go to FC next time.

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;5716917]So, have either of you met her or are you keeping the notes to yourself, LOL.

Am curious if she still wants allowance for M&G and will go to FC next time.[/QUOTE]She has sent pics that have me convinced she is real, and her nudes show nice curves with a little meat. However, something always comes up when we we going to meet. Sadly, as a precious poster stated I do think she isn't real about meeting.

This one is more of waste of time. Chatting and then once we finalize a meet and greet she drops her cashapp and Venmo info. Who actually falls for that stuff? From an unverified account??

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e6b144fb-38a2-4b3d-9941-24d43e52e3a7[/URL]

Last year I had a M&G agree with a 24 years old. We had lunch and even the waitress when out of her way to compliment her on her beauty. She agreed to be my SB, for 400. She ask me to get std tested, because she had allergies to latex and she was on BC. Everything when smoothly, till a few days later. She was talking to another guy. She told him that she wasn't interested in him anymore, because she found me. The guy threaten her, and blackmail her. He was able to get her personal information, because she was using her real number. I saw the screen shots of their conversation. She got a new number, and said she wasn't comfortable being a SB anyone. Guys if you don't have luck with a SB don't burn bridges. I had success with SBs the 2nd time they rejoin SA.

[QUOTE=Bish37;5716607]He only got 1 year. Who comes up with these ideas to blackmail a woman for sex. Thats a very sick individual, he only cares about himself. He should have gotten 5 years.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;5716917]So, have either of you met her or are you keeping the notes to yourself, LOL.

Am curious if she still wants allowance for M&G and will go to FC next time.[/QUOTE]I got busy with work and haven't made plans yet.

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5717806]Last year I had a M&G agree with a 24 years old. We had lunch and even the waitress when out of her way to compliment her on her beauty. She agreed to be my SB, for 400. She ask me to get std tested, because she had allergies to latex and she was on BC. Everything when smoothly, till a few days later. She was talking to another guy. She told him that she wasn't interested in him anymore, because she found me. The guy threaten her, and blackmail her. He was able to get her personal information, because she was using her real number. I saw the screen shots of their conversation. She got a new number, and said she wasn't comfortable being a SB anyone. Guys if you don't have luck with a SB don't burn bridges. I had success with SBs the 2nd time they rejoin SA.[/QUOTE]Agreed. If you get rejected, just don't be a piece of shit human being. Using proper English, not asking her "to fuck for 200 tonight", and being a generally nice person apparently.

Makes you stand out on SA. Not being a vindictive sob should just be a given. Although I do not know WHAT the college girls like because I am 1 out of like 500 in the 18-22 demographic. Need ProCatHunter to put on a sugaring clinic or something LOL.

[QUOTE=BmoreBball;5706630]Met up with Hottie4 u last week. Had a nice dinner M&G. She asked for money for her time, but said she understood if I said no. I politely declined and told her I don't pay for M&G. Had good conversation, she told me at the end of the meal the she'd like to meet up again. I text her today to make plans and she comes off all high and mighty about not being a prostitute and that she can't see my anymore because I only pay for sex.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e9726e89-a125-4d8c-9af2-565c8f5fba94[/URL]

I'm about ready to give up on this site. Bravo to you all who have had some success, but this shit is exhausting.[/QUOTE]She's a hot mess. Got a boob job that looks beyond ridiculous.

[QUOTE=HappyBday2020;5718157]She's a hot mess. Got a boob job that looks beyond ridiculous.[/QUOTE]She posted pics that obviously show she's a big girl easily way over 200 pounds and the boobs look appropriate for a large woman. She does look a little unstable but I'd bet she's a lot of fun in the right situation.

How not to make a profile. This one messaged me to ask for my private pics. Instead I asked her for hers first. Her public folder is her in tons of clothes with her face covered. She opens up the private pic and it's her dressed in a huge winter jacket, boots, and face covered. I swear some of these women are clueless.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7f1414d4-8b5c-457b-b212-5393dac02ae0[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5bc45a74-bc3d-4be0-bf57-1ba0f4876f4b[/URL]

I've been chatting with this one bu she won't go to text. Has anyone seen her?

[QUOTE=BuffBill75;5719436][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5bc45a74-bc3d-4be0-bf57-1ba0f4876f4b[/URL]

I've been chatting with this one bu she won't go to text. Has anyone seen her?[/QUOTE]At this point I am pretty sure she is a time waster. Been chattiing for weeks. Never available to meet.

Norm!!

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;5710446]Thanks for the responses and clarity, appreciate it and owe ya one.[/QUOTE]No problem and good luck. The difference in the packages (cost per msg) increased my rate of success exponentially. I went from one out of 2, to 3 out of four pretty quickly. Granted the let's grab food vs meet me at the room bit has increased my costs by 50-100 (depending on where we eat), but it's been worth it. LOL.

[QUOTE=MilesNoDavis;5719801]No problem and good luck. The difference in the packages (cost per msg) increased my rate of success exponentially. I went from one out of 2, to 3 out of four pretty quickly. Granted the let's grab food vs meet me at the room bit has increased my costs by 50-100 (depending on where we eat), but it's been worth it. LOL.[/QUOTE]SA, SB, vs WYP. Anybody have experience with all of these and can offer a comparison?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/82ea0cb2-d039-4e8a-8f72-9c395d9b981c[/URL]

Told me she's just looking for an online arrangement. Too bad.

[QUOTE=AnomBox;5721614]SA, SB, vs WYP. Anybody have experience with all of these and can offer a comparison?[/QUOTE]SA still has the best utility for messaging and number of SBs but throws out permanent bans too liberally. Some of the SBs on SA are on SB and WYP, so you can learn a bit more about them. SB won't take a vanilla gift card unless its approved for an offshore transaction, which I'm not sure any are. You can convert some to intimate dates on WYP but there are simply more women there wanting unrealistic money for a platonic date, and the larger your offer, the more credits you burn to start a discussion, so it's not a great system for the SD.

[QUOTE=Itfcd;5721958][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/82ea0cb2-d039-4e8a-8f72-9c395d9b981c[/URL]

Told me she's just looking for an online arrangement. Too bad.[/QUOTE]Next and block.

[QUOTE=AnomBox;5709392]Thanks! Going to take a trip to see her soon. What was the allowance?[/QUOTE]She was 3 $$.

[QUOTE=SRH59;5722235]SA still has the best utility for messaging and number of SBs but throws out permanent bans too liberally. Some of the SBs on SA are on SB and WYP, so you can learn a bit more about them. SB won't take a vanilla gift card unless its approved for an offshore transaction, which I'm not sure any are. You can convert some to intimate dates on WYP but there are simply more women there wanting unrealistic money for a platonic date, and the larger your offer, the more credits you burn to start a discussion, so it's not a great system for the SD.[/QUOTE]Long time user of SA, but recently started to actually using WYP. I agree the WYP system doesn't favor the SD. My strategy has been to get as much in my profile as possible to lessen those expecting a platonic date. I tried a few thing at first that just didn't seem to work for me. My current approach is working rather well and so I'll likely make myself at home LOL. For now, I mention that I'm seeking an arrangement and won't entertain a profile that doesn't list discreet affair, is 3 digits but mentions coffee and lunch as ideal date, or hints of "platonic interaction". This alone began bringing forth a crap load of offers under 100, many for 50 and even 25. Since this decreases what it costs to unlock the message and they're owed nothing if we don't meet it's working for me. As for unlocking offers. Unless it's me asking them to suggest one, I rarely initiate an offer on WYP. Also, I made a few refund requests for unclocking messages that don't discuss date or contact and appear eligible for refund, but I've only been able to receive about 60 credits on my requests of about 200 credits.

[QUOTE=MilesNoDavis;5723214]Long time user of SA, but recently started to actually using WYP. I agree the WYP system doesn't favor the SD. My strategy has been to get as much in my profile as possible to lessen those expecting a platonic date. I tried a few thing at first that just didn't seem to work for me. My current approach is working rather well and so I'll likely make myself at home LOL. For now, I mention that I'm seeking an arrangement and won't entertain a profile that doesn't list discreet affair, is 3 digits but mentions coffee and lunch as ideal date, or hints of "platonic interaction". This alone began bringing forth a crap load of offers under 100, many for 50 and even 25. Since this decreases what it costs to unlock the message and they're owed nothing if we don't meet it's working for me. As for unlocking offers. Unless it's me asking them to suggest one, I rarely initiate an offer on WYP. Also, I made a few refund requests for unclocking messages that don't discuss date or contact and appear eligible for refund, but I've only been able to receive about 60 credits on my requests of about 200 credits.[/QUOTE]Nice job fine tuning your approach there. Shows it can work. I put some, but probably less effort in and the offers avg. Around 100. I make the offers too if someone is highly attractive. A majority of the "smoking hot" women have been picture sellers, and they try to go to text quickly. Once you exchange contact info, WYP won't refund the credits. So something to be mindful about.

SA and WYP are both owned by the same firm, and I'd expect they could cross ban you. So another thing to think about if you buy larger WYP credit packages and longer SA premium memberships. If / when Brandon comes to take my access card for now good reason I want to leave as little money left on his sites from those Visa gift cards I get at Giant for him.

[QUOTE=AnomBox;5718126]Agreed. If you get rejected, just don't be a piece of shit human being. Using proper English, not asking her "to fuck for 200 tonight", and being a generally nice person apparently.

Makes you stand out on SA. Not being a vindictive sob should just be a given. Although I do not know WHAT the college girls like because I am 1 out of like 500 in the 18-22 demographic. Need ProCatHunter to put on a sugaring clinic or something LOL.[/QUOTE]Yep. Amazing how far being kind, respectful, but firm gets you. The stories we've all heard about terrible human beings on both ends makes you really wonder. But the fact that being a sane human being gives us an edge is kinda mind blowing.

My wheelhouse has been 22-32 age range. Rent and student loans they have to pay has always made that my sweet spot. I think a lot of college age girls in this area like the idea of an SD but follow through is what makes them harder to land. Like you pointed out, it's a number game, and I'm about 5 good SBs for 500 messages sent, so we're not that far off.

I also think a lot of them have trouble wrapping their minds around sleeping with a guy older than 40. My success rate fell off substantially after I crossed that age threshold.

As for a sugar clinic, most of the seniors on here could probably provide great information to each other to help up our respective sugar games. Let's pick a local strip club in Baltimore on a random Friday night to swap sugar tips. (Incel dudes who constantly complain about not being able to figure out women are not invited).

I'm game! LOL.

[QUOTE=ProCatHunter;5723363]Yep. Amazing how far being kind, respectful, but firm gets you. The stories we've all heard about terrible human beings on both ends makes you really wonder. But the fact that being a sane human being gives us an edge is kinda mind blowing.

My wheelhouse has been 22-32 age range. Rent and student loans they have to pay has always made that my sweet spot. I think a lot of college age girls in this area like the idea of an SD but follow through is what makes them harder to land. Like you pointed out, it's a number game, and I'm about 5 good SBs for 500 messages sent, so we're not that far off.

I also think a lot of them have trouble wrapping their minds around sleeping with a guy older than 40. My success rate fell off substantially after I crossed that age threshold.

As for a sugar clinic, most of the seniors on here could probably provide great information to each other to help up our respective sugar games. Let's pick a local strip club in Baltimore on a random Friday night to swap sugar tips. (Incel dudes who constantly complain about not being able to figure out women are not invited).[/QUOTE]

Thanks! Haven't come across pic sellers yet. All the talk I did about small offers and yesterday I get a few offers at 200 and even 350. Smh The one for 350 I actually want to unlock, but my ego won't allow me to do it. LOL.

Shit, I never thought about being banned and having unused credits. Great heads up. Thanks!

[QUOTE=SRH59;5723256]Nice job fine tuning your approach there. Shows it can work. I put some, but probably less effort in and the offers avg. Around 100. I make the offers too if someone is highly attractive. A majority of the "smoking hot" women have been picture sellers, and they try to go to text quickly. Once you exchange contact info, WYP won't refund the credits. So something to be mindful about.

SA and WYP are both owned by the same firm, and I'd expect they could cross ban you. So another thing to think about if you buy larger WYP credit packages and longer SA premium memberships. If / when Brandon comes to take my access card for now good reason I want to leave as little money left on his sites from those Visa gift cards I get at Giant for him.[/QUOTE]

Any intel on this one? Sensing major gps. Trying to get her to negotiate. Is it worth it? What's she going for?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/93bf77ef-0e4f-4178-bc54-bd2f9927c50b[/URL]

[QUOTE=AnomBox;5721614]SA, SB, vs WYP. Anybody have experience with all of these and can offer a comparison?[/QUOTE]CTC = Cost to Converse is one way to judge value of a SB site. There are plenty of other factors. For this post CTC is the focus not if the websites are full of fake, picture seller, GPS, time wasting, platonic accounts.

SA = Seeking is still the best bang for the buck to start a conversation with a potential sugar baby. Even after recent annual rate increase. Unlimited messaging to anyone anywhere in the world. More you message the lower the cost to start a conversation. No upsells or extra fees to see private pics or get notifications to see if messages are read or to send pics thru their messaging system.

WYP = Whats Your Price CTC is a variable rate dependent on the amount of the first date bid. The higher the date amount you offer the more credits you pay to start a conversation. No additional upsells once you start a conversation. Can burn credits quickly by offering a high date incentive amount. Often potential Sugar Babys on WYP are also on SA.

SB = Secret Benefits is credit based messaging system too but the CTC is a flat credit amount. Number of conversations you can have is based on the number of credits you buy. Everything is an upsell on SB. Charges to start a conversation. Charge to see private pics. Charge to see message read receipts. Charge to send pics thru message system. Credits are burned up very fast. And while there is not direct proof many conversations have been had on this site in other forums SB uses bots and/or fake accounts to entice credit spending to no payoff.

[QUOTE=AnomBox;5709392]Thanks! Going to take a trip to see her soon. What was the allowance?[/QUOTE]Just found this from last month.

[URL]https://harrisburg.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/good-for-your-soul-bad-for-you/905247103549[/URL]

[QUOTE=DrknStrmy;5725520]Any intel on this one? Sensing major gps. Trying to get her to negotiate. Is it worth it? What's she going for?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/93bf77ef-0e4f-4178-bc54-bd2f9927c50b[/URL][/QUOTE]This one doesn't seem to understand that some of us are not going to just drive an hour out of our way and get a hotel room if you don't have the sense to give some kind of ballpark figure. I asked her twice how much she was looking for and the second time she said, "You're annoying, I don't like getting asked a million questions, I like men who know what they want. " Hey dipshit, I know what I want; I'd just like to know what I'm paying for it.

Only remote positives to dealing with her were that she seemed to be fine with BBFS as long as you pulled out.

I agree with everyone that even though SA is getting worse with fakes and scammers, its still the best bet to score with SBs despite the frequent extortionist price hikes.

Problem I am having today is that it is not accepting my vanilla gift card, securespend that I have used for years. I think it may only accept it if I chose " one time" payment option with 90 days payment instead of 30 day " subscription" option but don't have that much on my gift card tonight so I cannot be sure.

May be we can pool information about some prepaid cards that will still work on SA so that you don't have to use your credit card and risk divulging personal info in a data breach or worse.

For me, its always been one vanilla visa gift card you get at gas stations.

Any suggestions are appreciated.

HT.

I recently used a Visa gift card, the one-time load up with a 500 max variety. SA didn't take the 30 day membership but did take the 90 day. I wouldn't be surprised if that's intentional.

[QUOTE=HornyTwist;5726522]I agree with everyone that even though SA is getting worse with fakes and scammers, its still the best bet to score with SBs despite the frequent extortionist price hikes.

Problem I am having today is that it is not accepting my vanilla gift card, securespend that I have used for years. I think it may only accept it if I chose " one time" payment option with 90 days payment instead of 30 day " subscription" option but don't have that much on my gift card tonight so I cannot be sure.

May be we can pool information about some prepaid cards that will still work on SA so that you don't have to use your credit card and risk divulging personal info in a data breach or worse.

For me, its always been one vanilla visa gift card you get at gas stations.

Any suggestions are appreciated.

HT.[/QUOTE]

Your inbox is full. You may as well throw out the number she quoted since it'll let others gauge whether she's worth the bother.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5af8e458-3acb-4442-896f-104f3ca271bc[/URL]

Broke off conversation a few weeks back when I didn't text additional pics to her, which I hate doing. Sent her a few of another random guy who looks enough like me to be passable but who isn't me and started up the conversation. It's a strategy I talked about before in one of my old posts where I'll send a happy new year or happy thanksgiving text to prior SBs and prior POTs, just to gauge if they're back on the market without being pushy or invasive.

Long story short, her minimum is 700. Politely declined. No way that number makes sense for Baltimore.

Give it a try now.

[QUOTE=Itfcd;5726848]Your inbox is full. You may as well throw out the number she quoted since it'll let others gauge whether she's worth the bother.[/QUOTE].

Scammer, money upfront.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/469ba9dc-9ee0-43fe-be6e-124b6ca54216[/URL]

[QUOTE=ProCatHunter;5726951][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5af8e458-3acb-4442-896f-104f3ca271bc[/URL]

Broke off conversation a few weeks back when I didn't text additional pics to her, which I hate doing. Sent her a few of another random guy who looks enough like me to be passable but who isn't me and started up the conversation. It's a strategy I talked about before in one of my old posts where I'll send a happy new year or happy thanksgiving text to prior SBs and prior POTs, just to gauge if they're back on the market without being pushy or invasive.

Long story short, her minimum is 700. Politely declined. No way that number makes sense for Baltimore.[/QUOTE]I had previously posted about her, and in fact, we discussed her here back in post #6246. I Advised she wanted 7 bills.

Norm!!

[QUOTE=HornyTwist;5726522]I agree with everyone that even though SA is getting worse with fakes and scammers, its still the best bet to score with SBs despite the frequent extortionist price hikes.
....
HT.[/QUOTE]With the grand jury hearing testimony and depending upon how things go, there could be a lot of attention on SA, hope it can survive this.

[QUOTE=IronMan40;5725587]Just found this from last month.

[URL]https://harrisburg.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/good-for-your-soul-bad-for-you/905247103549[/URL][/QUOTE]I should have known better and copied the number down. I guess she got a lot of interest and pulled the ad. If any one has her number can you DM me?

Since your post, and tried my best to use my good looks, charm, wit, and style to do what I could, but sadly it was a no go for me.

Maybe others might have better luck?

[QUOTE=NormGerd;5727561]I had previously posted about her, and in fact, we discussed her here back in post #6246. I Advised she wanted 7 bills.

Norm!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ProCatHunter;5716493]Is real. I wasn't attracted to her after our m&g so decided to pass. Didn't discuss allowance since it wasn't going to be a go for me unless it was free and I knew that wasn't happening.[/QUOTE]She is definitely real. I met her about a year ago and had an average experience. She is also not my type and I wasn't attracted to her. Happy to share her social for anyone interested in getting a better look.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d475f0e9-2860-41f0-a1d7-fd3a9f9cc2e3?_cf_ref=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC8%3D[/URL]