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[QUOTE=GornyHuy;6997947]Respectfully disagree - $40 has been the standard tip for HJ for time immemorial. If you are paying substantially more, you are the market forces that are driving up "inflation" - if the experience is outstanding or the roaming is particularly good or you get some DATY or BBBJ or something, or if you are a regular to someone, etc, sure treat them super nice, but don't drive up prices and expectations unnecessarily for a quick HJ.[/QUOTE]This is correct. $40 is the usual in the county. Don't need that going up anymore. Though pickings are relatively slim in comparison, this is one of the caveats of the hobby in the county.
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AMP's
[QUOTE=ThrobbinWood;6999429]The Media thread claims 20 raids in the past two weeks. Does anyone have first hand knowledge of trouble at AMPs recently.[/QUOTE]Would really like more on this. My usual places appear to be operating as normal.
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Latina spa on bed page
I saw an ad for one in Rockville. Anyone tried yet?
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Bedpage Ad
[QUOTE=JamesRussells;7004325]I saw an ad for one in Rockville. Anyone tried yet?[/QUOTE]A link would have helped since bedpage is rarely used for MoCo.
[URL]https://us-dc.bedpage.com/bodyrubs/rockville/23276208.html[/URL]
Anyway, the number in the ad links up to a Craigslist ad for Natacha Stival.
[URL]https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/hws/d/rockville-natacha-stival-holistic/7775064795.html[/URL]
I have corresponded with Natacha but couldn't meet. Funny thing is the original Natacha spa is across from the Red Roof while some of the Natacha ads place the spa in the Montrose area. I've actually gotten a massage in the same unit as the Shady Grove Natacha ad, it was off a Craigslist ad for Colombian Massage. It also looks like they are advertising both places now. I'd assume the second Montrose location is the Craigslist one I reviewed a while back.
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Raids or inspections?
[QUOTE=SpicySticks;7003076]Would really like more on this. My usual places appear to be operating as normal.[/QUOTE]Hard to believe that many places can get "raided" as the word would certainly get out. Now, inspecting the places is a different matter; licensing, facilities.
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[QUOTE=BoMcC;7005011]A link would have helped since bedpage is rarely used for MoCo.
[URL]https://us-dc.bedpage.com/bodyrubs/rockville/23276208.html[/URL]
Anyway, the number in the ad links up to a Craigslist ad for Natacha Stival.
[URL]https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/hws/d/rockville-natacha-stival-holistic/7775064795.html[/URL]
I have corresponded with Natacha but couldn't meet. Funny thing is the original Natacha spa is across from the Red Roof while some of the Natacha ads place the spa in the Montrose area. I've actually gotten a massage in the same unit as the Shady Grove Natacha ad, it was off a Craigslist ad for Colombian Massage. It also looks like they are advertising both places now. I'd assume the second Montrose location is the Craigslist one I reviewed a while back.[/QUOTE]That is correct. They also advertise on RR. The two masseuse that offer extras AFAIK are Samantha and Anna. Idk if Natacha herself does. The pics on RR with blurred faces are them, the bedpage photo looks different.
Cost quoted was $ for entry, $$ tip for everything. You can find pics of the space online. It's a clean room. Same complex as lilac spa and a1 spa.
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Raids
[QUOTE=Axlmoe;7005060]Hard to believe that many places can get "raided" as the word would certainly get out. Now, inspecting the places is a different matter; licensing, facilities.[/QUOTE]Whether you believe it or not doesn't matter. There are many people in the county who are far better connected than you are.
These were raids, pure and simple.
Teams of 8 to 10 officers stormed into each store unannounced and immediately raided each massage room before anyone inside could react. There was no advanced notice or knocking, and they were looking for ANYTHING they could find, including sexual things (hence, the arrests), rules violations, licensing issues, etc. Also, they inspected each room and questioned everyone in the store, with heavy emphasis on evidence of human trafficking. They weren't playing games.
Random license inspections occur monthly in this county and are conducted far more peacefully and with far fewer officers. Tell the people whose sessions were barged in on that it was a polite license inspection and I'm sure they'll beg to differ.
At least one owner and one MT were arrested on the first night. That info is readily available online. The MT was clearly arrested for prostitution. The charges for the owner are more vague because she was charged under a new "umbrella" law that governs massage spas.
The ramifications of these raids are widespread. Most spas have made numerous changes behind the scenes; some obvious (e. g. , changing their closing hours to 9 pm), and some more subtle.
As for the information, it has gotten out, or else you wouldn't be discussing it.
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Raids
Thanks for keeping your ear to the ground on this. Your mailbox is full.
[QUOTE=JakeGalo;7005533]Whether you believe it or not doesn't matter. There are many people in the county who are far better connected than you are.
These were raids, pure and simple.
Teams of 8 to 10 officers stormed into each store unannounced and immediately raided each massage room before anyone inside could react. There was no advanced notice or knocking, and they were looking for ANYTHING they could find, including sexual things (hence, the arrests), rules violations, licensing issues, etc. Also, they inspected each room and questioned everyone in the store, with heavy emphasis on evidence of human trafficking. They weren't playing games.
Random license inspections occur monthly in this county and are conducted far more peacefully and with far fewer officers. Tell the people whose sessions were barged in on that it was a polite license inspection and I'm sure they'll beg to differ.
At least one owner and one MT were arrested on the first night. That info is readily available online. The MT was clearly arrested for prostitution. The charges for the owner are more vague because she was charged under a new "umbrella" law that governs massage spas.
The ramifications of these raids are widespread. Most spas have made numerous changes behind the scenes; some obvious (e. g. , changing their closing hours to 9 pm), and some more subtle.
As for the information, it has gotten out, or else you wouldn't be discussing it.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dm311;7005190]That is correct. They also advertise on RR. The two masseuse that offer extras AFAIK are Samantha and Anna. Idk if Natacha herself does. The pics on RR with blurred faces are them, the bedpage photo looks different.
Cost quoted was $ for entry, $$ tip for everything. You can find pics of the space online. It's a clean room. Same complex as lilac spa and a1 spa.[/QUOTE]Also, looks like they are up on dmv Latina massage advertising someone named sofi. Those pics do not match the RR pics of Anna and Samantha, but look closer to the BP ad. Could be a third person or a fake Pic for Samantha and Anna.
Best of luck (and be careful out there).
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[QUOTE=Lucretius;7005942]Thanks for keeping your ear to the ground on this. Your mailbox is full.[/QUOTE]Use this web site to see the depressing news about the raids in MoCo. Use the "filter" function to remove all listings except "sexual offense. " Then "apply. " The exact addresses are not given, but it is pretty easy to guess which ones were raided.
[URL]https://communitycrimemap.com/?address=rockville[/URL]
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[QUOTE=DogBert25;7008264]Use this web site to see the depressing news about the raids in MoCo. Use the "filter" function to remove all listings except "sexual offense. " Then "apply. " The exact addresses are not given, but it is pretty easy to guess which ones were raided.
[URL]https://communitycrimemap.com/?address=rockville[/URL][/QUOTE]Holy shit!! Thanks for sharing this mapping tool. They hit so many places in and around Gaithersburg. I bet things are going to be pretty locked down for a little while around here.
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[QUOTE=GornyHuy;7010972]Holy shit!! Thanks for sharing this mapping tool. They hit so many places in and around Gaithersburg. I bet things are going to be pretty locked down for a little while around here.[/QUOTE]Looks like it's not a good time for Moco, even for legit.
I wonder how close those flags are to the real locations.
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[QUOTE=JamesRussells;7012151]Looks like it's not a good time for Moco, even for legit.
I wonder how close those flags are to the real locations.[/QUOTE]They seem to be within a few blocks of the real address, in general. But if you look at the summary information for the crime record, it has most of the street address there, with some of the building number redacted. Pretty easy to figure out what's what.
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So it sounds like the following have had busts:
-why&why.
-Massage Advanced.
-Dream Spa (?maybe).
-Sunshine Day Spa.
To name a few.
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Raids
[QUOTE=JamesRussells;7015857]So it sounds like the following have had busts:
-why&why.
-Massage Advanced.
-Dream Spa (?maybe).
-Sunshine Day Spa.
To name a few.[/QUOTE]Has anyone seen a post that confirms these raids that have been talked about. So far I have not read about any visits confirming all this talk.