Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=MassageFreak;1999501]Why don't I post the exact address? I didn't post location for a reason! Total newbie move! Never post things like that! Aren't you aware that uncle Leo is prolly hiding on this site or at least watching it? And you all wonder why some seniors only give intel via private message! Just one more reason I'm debating leaving this site and going utr. MF

.[/QUOTE]I don't know why, all of the sudden it's an issue. The location has been the same for some time now. All of the sudden, people caught a case of the dumbass and started publicly announcing it. It's almost like they want her or one of us to get busted.

She is sweet girl and doesn't deserve this kind of publicity. I would hope all the guys that posted about it ask A2 to delete their post. Or maybe he will do it, with out their request. Nothing good can come out of publicly announcing specifics about any providers location.

[QUOTE=BuyingSmiles;1999557]I don't know why, all of the sudden it's an issue. The location has been the same for some time now. All of the sudden, people caught a case of the dumbass and started publicly announcing it. It's almost like they want her or one of us to get busted.

She is sweet girl and doesn't deserve this kind of publicity. I would hope all the guys that posted about it ask A2 to delete their post. Or maybe he will do it, with out their request. Nothing good can come out of publicly announcing specifics about any providers location.[/QUOTE]I realize I'm a newbie on this site and have yet to see this provider and have been wanting to. I think now I will have to wait till she moves or I believe their is no heat on her. She could have lost business due to this info being ousted here which is sad. To the one who first posted this info (How would you like it if a provider came to your home and then described the area you live in so others could find you easily).

Well, I'm going to stick my 2 cents in for what its worth. Re the posts potentially bringing heat down on a provider, I suggest that those of you guys who are friends of hers all chip in and get her a room for the next week, and get her sweet ass moved to a new place. Chip in for the security deposit, rent a damn you-haul truck, and move her. From what I've read, she is a great friend, and considering what has happened, we should not leave her in the lurch when all it will take to keep her safe is a few dollars. If 10 guys all pitch in what could it cost, $50 bucks each? And by the way, I'm in Cleveland, if I was there I would jump right in.

Cheech.

[URL]http://www.barstoolsports.com/m/nyc/super-page/couple-dies-in-a-car-having-sex/[/URL]

Off topic but related.

I never post details about my encounters or locations so the ladies in question remain as anonymous as possible. I think its bad form. MF

[QUOTE=BuyingSmiles;1999557]I don't know why, all of the sudden it's an issue. The location has been the same for some time now. All of the sudden, people caught a case of the dumbass and started publicly announcing it. It's almost like they want her or one of us to get busted.

She is sweet girl and doesn't deserve this kind of publicity. I would hope all the guys that posted about it ask A2 to delete their post. Or maybe he will do it, with out their request. Nothing good can come out of publicly announcing specifics about any providers location.[/QUOTE].

I thought this was a gag, but apparently the same folks that bring you the "Fuck a Fan" videos that allow guys to have a PSE with the porn star they have under contract of your choice (at a hefty price and you have to agree to allow them to release the video) have taken the plunge to offer affordable anonymous PSE via virtual sex using live video / audio feed, and two mutual USB devices that provide a "realistic" experience:

[URL]http://www.realtouchinteractive.com/find_a_model.php[/URL]

So who will be the first provider here to offer services? It looks like any woman can resister as a "model" even if they are not a "celebrity.".

Not sure how the experience will be, but after the initial investment on the hardware and interface membership, the rates are VERY reasonable, especially if you browse down and just look for regular ladies looking to earn some quick cash from the safety of their private undisclosed location.

If this thing really works, just think--low cost, low risk hobbying for both the client and the provider.

A2, you and your business partners need to get out in front of this!

I don't know about the rest of you, but if this works, and I just want an affordable quickie in the afternoon without leaving my home, I have to admit that I will be tempted to buy the device and join the site.

As anyone ever tried this, and does it work as well as they claim?

Here is one review I found on it:


http://www.gizmag.com/nsfw-review-realtouch-sex-toy-for-men/26804/

[QUOTE=PhatDaty;2000101]I thought this was a gag, but apparently the same folks that bring you the "Fuck a Fan" videos that allow guys to have a PSE with the porn star they have under contract of your choice (at a hefty price and you have to agree to allow them to release the video) have taken the plunge to offer affordable anonymous PSE via virtual sex using live video / audio feed, and two mutual USB devices that provide a "realistic" experience:

[URL]http://www.realtouchinteractive.com/find_a_model.php[/URL]

So who will be the first provider here to offer services? It looks like any woman can resister as a "model" even if they are not a "celebrity.".

Not sure how the experience will be, but after the initial investment on the hardware and interface membership, the rates are VERY reasonable, especially if you browse down and just look for regular ladies looking to earn some quick cash from the safety of their private undisclosed location.

If this thing really works, just think--low cost, low risk hobbying for both the client and the provider.

A2, you and your business partners need to get out in front of this!

I don't know about the rest of you, but if this works, and I just want an affordable quickie in the afternoon without leaving my home, I have to admit that I will be tempted to buy the device and join the site.

As anyone ever tried this, and does it work as well as they claim?

Here is one review I found on it:


http://www.gizmag.com/nsfw-review-realtouch-sex-toy-for-men/26804/[/QUOTE]I tried the "Fuck a Fan" thing...but as soon as one of those blades whacked my pecker..I said never again.

[QUOTE=UtrInOhio;1999481]Reasons I will give out refs.

1). A good Monger I know ask me to do so.

2). The provider asking me has more than one year of good reports here.

Reasons I will not.

1). I don't like to get involved with newbies.

2). I know some of these girls have never even logged onto USASG.

3). Too many aliases used by SW types to track.

4). I don't involve myself with girls who may have been busted.

*if your a client of mine and want to use me as a ref. Let me know its OK to share your info with?[/QUOTE]Because I am not under your "will not" reasons. Yet you have never giving me a ref and I have been on this board almost a year.

Also let me post a pm you have sent me so these men understand where I am coming from.

"As much as I appreciate your kind words on the board. The problem I have with PT and BM, and the problem they have with me boils down to condoms. I don't want to work with girls who will not use condoms 100% of the time. Therefore, Mac and Pt are not permitted to even try to use the service. When you tell me that you know both of them. All I can think is you must be one of the girls providing such services. I guess that's your choice, I personally am disgusted with the whole idea of it. There are so many clients who don't require that. So many that we'll see you be respectful and are happy to wear a condom. This is only money. They don't care about you. I've been here 24 years and can tell you... They're only happy with you if you're their dog! The two of them are a hemorrhoid on the asshole of his business.

So when you ask me for references of clients, clients who I know and respect. It's hard for me to do that. The one piece of information that's not allowed on usag is if a girl provides bareback. I hope this comes as no surprise, the same guys you see also visit streetwalkers and of course bare back with them as well.

It comes down to this... I protect my girls. I am here to make money if I want to do them both I have to make sure my clients are aware of that behavior. If they choose to risk visiting a girl who provides bareback I have no choice but to take them off my client list. I hope you understand that its business and a personal thing. My crew operates as a family and we discussed everything this is what they chose.".

Let me also say I have never done bareback with PT or BM and I am not a dog for associating with them. They are great men and I have always enjoyed talking to them exspecially BM. Let me also say that I my ad say CFS.

[QUOTE=ClassASweetie;2001238]Because I am not under your "will not" reasons. Yet you have never giving me a ref and I have been on this board almost a year.

Also let me post a pm you have sent me so these men understand where I am coming from.

"As much as I appreciate your kind words on the board. The problem I have with PT and BM, and the problem they have with me boils down to condoms. I don't want to work with girls who will not use condoms 100% of the time. Therefore, Mac and Pt are not permitted to even try to use the service. When you tell me that you know both of them. All I can think is you must be one of the girls providing such services. I guess that's your choice, I personally am disgusted with the whole idea of it. There are so many clients who don't require that. So many that we'll see you be respectful and are happy to wear a condom. This is only money. They don't care about you. I've been here 24 years and can tell you... They're only happy with you if you're their dog! The two of them are a hemorrhoid on the asshole of his business.

So when you ask me for references of clients, clients who I know and respect. It's hard for me to do that. The one piece of information that's not allowed on usag is if a girl provides bareback. I hope this comes as no surprise, the same guys you see also visit streetwalkers and of course bare back with them as well.

It comes down to this... I protect my girls. I am here to make money if I want to do them both I have to make sure my clients are aware of that behavior. If they choose to risk visiting a girl who provides bareback I have no choice but to take them off my client list. I hope you understand that its business and a personal thing. My crew operates as a family and we discussed everything this is what they chose.".

Let me also say I have never done bareback with PT or BM and I am not a dog for associating with them. They are great men and I have always enjoyed talking to them exspecially BM. Let me also say that I my ad say CFS.[/QUOTE]I'm sure I will catch hell from some on this board, but I don't mind saying openly that in all my dealings with Buddah, he has shown himself to be professional, honest and straightforward--whether our conversation dealt with business or not. I find his ladies to be some of the best this city has to offer, and his role has never given me reason to pause before contacting him. I can't speak for others, but as for me--Buddah and UTR are the way this business should be run.

[QUOTE=ClassASweetie;2001238]Because I am not under your "will not" reasons. Yet you have never giving me a ref and I have been on this board almost a year.

Also let me post a pm you have sent me so these men understand where I am coming from.

"As much as I appreciate your kind words on the board. The problem I have with PT and BM, and the problem they have with me boils down to condoms. I don't want to work with girls who will not use condoms 100% of the time. Therefore, Mac and Pt are not permitted to even try to use the service. When you tell me that you know both of them. All I can think is you must be one of the girls providing such services. I guess that's your choice, I personally am disgusted with the whole idea of it. There are so many clients who don't require that. So many that we'll see you be respectful and are happy to wear a condom. This is only money. They don't care about you. I've been here 24 years and can tell you... They're only happy with you if you're their dog! The two of them are a hemorrhoid on the asshole of his business.

So when you ask me for references of clients, clients who I know and respect. It's hard for me to do that. The one piece of information that's not allowed on usag is if a girl provides bareback. I hope this comes as no surprise, the same guys you see also visit streetwalkers and of course bare back with them as well.

It comes down to this... I protect my girls. I am here to make money if I want to do them both I have to make sure my clients are aware of that behavior. If they choose to risk visiting a girl who provides bareback I have no choice but to take them off my client list. I hope you understand that its business and a personal thing. My crew operates as a family and we discussed everything this is what they chose.".

Let me also say I have never done bareback with PT or BM and I am not a dog for associating with them. They are great men and I have always enjoyed talking to them exspecially BM. Let me also say that I my ad say CFS.[/QUOTE]OK let me ad to my list I won't help disease spreading skanks who do bare back!

My choice!

What my brother and I like doesn't mean that is what we get. It is and has ALWAYS been the ladies choice, not ours. When a lady asks us our likes we tell them but we also say it is their option. Whether you chose to let us see your ladies is YOUR CHOICE, they are YOUR ladies.

But you should NEVER judge another provider by the fact they associate with us or like us because it DOES NOT MEAN THEY GIVE US WHAT WE WOULD LIKE. If you called a woman a DOG for associating with us I would ask every client on this board to BLACKBALL you for it. That is treating a woman like scum and especially a woman who is considered a reputable and kind lady. To refuse if you did to give references based on what you think we MIGHT have done is understandable but also doing a disservice to the provider and her protection with other clients.

Sorry BUDDAH. I like you and the way you run your business whether I get any of your pussy or not. And there are things you have told me you have sat with other providers and done that would not set well but I will refrain from sharing those along with things you have been asked to provide out side of the hobby especially to one male in particular.

My concern with you and other men on this board is to stop stereotyping myself and my brother based on what you have heard instead of what you know FOR SURE. I have told my brother to stay out of this because he has a family to protect. I don't. Just remember that people who live in glass houses and that includes all of us shouldn't throw stones. Nuff said by me and I will move on. I suggest you quit playing the angel you pretend to be and concentrate on your business. You do a good job, I will give you that. But stick with what you know, not what you think you do or have been told. Works much better. And for your edification neither my brother or I have EVER SEEN a street walker We stick with quality ladies or ladies vetted by well thought of men and hobbyists on this board.

[QUOTE=PuntangMan;2001613]What my brother and I like doesn't mean that is what we get. It is and has ALWAYS been the ladies choice, not ours. When a lady asks us our likes we tell them but we also say it is their option. Whether you chose to let us see your ladies is YOUR CHOICE, they are YOUR ladies.

But you should NEVER judge another provider by the fact they associate with us or like us because it DOES NOT MEAN THEY GIVE US WHAT WE WOULD LIKE. If you called a woman a DOG for associating with us I would ask every client on this board to BLACKBALL you for it. That is treating a woman like scum and especially a woman who is considered a reputable and kind lady. To refuse if you did to give references based on what you think we MIGHT have done is understandable but also doing a disservice to the provider and her protection with other clients.

Sorry BUDDAH. I like you and the way you run your business whether I get any of your pussy or not. And there are things you have told me you have sat with other providers and done that would not set well but I will refrain from sharing those along with things you have been asked to provide out side of the hobby especially to one male in particular.

My concern with you and other men on this board is to stop stereotyping myself and my brother based on what you have heard instead of what you know FOR SURE. I have told my brother to stay out of this because he has a family to protect. I don't. Just remember that people who live in glass houses and that includes all of us shouldn't throw stones. Nuff said by me and I will move on. I suggest you quit playing the angel you pretend to be and concentrate on your business. You do a good job, I will give you that. But stick with what you know, not what you think you do or have been told. Works much better. And for your edification neither my brother or I have EVER SEEN a street walker We stick with quality ladies or ladies vetted by well thought of men and hobbyists on this board.[/QUOTE]First paragraph.

I'm a little confused here. I do not belong to Buddha nor do any of the ladies he works with. Buddha has two simple rules and if you don't follow them, well he don't work with you.

Rule 1: USE A FUCKING CONDOM.

Rule 2: If you say you'll be there... Be there.

I belong to ME!

Also...

I go by what I read on the boards and it shows that you and your brother like BB, I personally don't want to risk myself or the hassle of explaining something my kids (like your brother I'm a family woman) to associate myself with gentlemen or ladies that offer that.

[QUOTE=ClassASweetie;2001238]Also let me post a pm you have sent me so these men understand where I am coming from.[/QUOTE][BLUE]NEVER publish PM's if they identify the sender. You can post "I got a PM from some guy asking blah" (if the blah doesn't identify him) but PM's mean PRIVATE message. It's in the Octagon and I saw it was argumentative but didn't notice it was a PM. Budda said he's ok with it being published, which is the only reason it's still here. Nuff Said.[/BLUE]

[QUOTE=ClassASweetie;2001238]The one piece of information that's not allowed on usag is if a girl provides bareback.[/QUOTE][BLUE]This is untrue, guys can post that they did BB with some chick. They can't BRAG about it, it has to be informational, they can't post about it all the time, they can't describe chicks that don't do it as subpar. They can say, as with any info, I fucked X and we did Y.

A2[/BLUE]

Clear your inbox.

Thanks,

Fdx.