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[QUOTE=Candyman2002; 1542931]Hey guys,

I've been out of the loop for awhile and will be back in Oahu for 5 days next week. I was wondering if you would know which of the top girls I've seen on the board recently would be my best bet at GFE. Does the infamous Jessie, Sua or Bobbi allow DATY? DFK? BBFS? I won't be able to sample much since my SO will be with me so I want to use my time wisely. 2 of my days there she will be getting a massage and spa treatment so it will be my time to venture. LOL PM me is OK too. Thanks bros and if any of you want some help if you are ever in SF bay area PM me too.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I highly recommend this one.

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[QUOTE=YG365;1543276]I have an idea! Every time we hit up an AMP, we should offer to pay 1. 0 instead of 1. 5. I mean, compared to other states and countries, we're paying way more! I think that's why so many girls from the mainland and other countries come and stay for a long time! Who's with me? LOL[/QUOTE]I totally agree! I'm from LA, so average prices are 140 total in AMPs. For 200, you always get DDG young (early to mid 20s) girls. Prices in Hawaii are really expensive. When I monger here, I usually pay house fee and tip the girls 120. Which usually works out to around 170 total out the door. Never had any problems, but then again, I don't try out too many places (mainly just hit up Kison). I tend to stick with the Chinese MTs who are usually happy with me paying 140 total (ie: Lilly, Vicki, Sisi).

Simple economics will tell you that if the going rate is 140 in Los Angeles, the girls working in Hawaii would be OK with receiving the same amount, IF Hawaii mongers stopped simply paying 200 every time. Of course there are exceptions with the super-star girls who will always command higher prices, but for the average 30 year old + girls with average to slightly above average service, I don't see why they should really be getting more than 140 to 160.

Also, can we stop with the "standard fees" nonsense, and just say exactly what we paid? I think we all know that standard fees is 200, but see'mon, why is everyone so scared to put it out there?

We have some leverage to put prices down to more manageable levels. I'm sure we would all monger more if we only had to pay 140 vs 200. So everyone wins. Girls get more money but for more work, we get more punani.

If we all collectively start ("out of the blue") start tipping the exact same amount all over O'ahu, I'm sure the AMPs will start to catch on. If the girls make a big deal about it, if we simply state "I'm sorry, it's the economy" and just walk out, and we ALL stick to the same tip, and line, they will all collectively start to catch on.

I know a lot of these girls work hard for the money, but, so do we! AND, they are also part of our lousy economy!

If they don't accept this change in our behavior, they may get less and less business.

Just my two cents.

Play nice, and be safe!

P. K.

[QUOTE=Hentai Man; 1543687]I totally agree! I'm from LA, so average prices are 140 total in AMPs. For 200, you always get DDG young (early to mid 20s) girls. Prices in Hawaii are really expensive. When I monger here, I usually pay house fee and tip the girls 120. Which usually works out to around 170 total out the door. Never had any problems, but then again, I don't try out too many places (mainly just hit up Kison). I tend to stick with the Chinese MTs who are usually happy with me paying 140 total (ie: Lilly, Vicki, Sisi).

Simple economics will tell you that if the going rate is 140 in Los Angeles, the girls working in Hawaii would be OK with receiving the same amount, IF Hawaii mongers stopped simply paying 200 every time. Of course there are exceptions with the super-star girls who will always command higher prices, but for the average 30 year old + girls with average to slightly above average service, I don't see why they should really be getting more than 140 to 160.

Also, can we stop with the "standard fees" nonsense, and just say exactly what we paid? I think we all know that standard fees is 200, but see'mon, why is everyone so scared to put it out there?

We have some leverage to put prices down to more manageable levels. I'm sure we would all monger more if we only had to pay 140 vs 200. So everyone wins. Girls get more money but for more work, we get more punani.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hentai Man; 1543687]I totally agree! I'm from LA, so average prices are 140 total in AMPs. For 200, you always get DDG young (early to mid 20s) girls. Prices in Hawaii are really expensive. When I monger here, I usually pay house fee and tip the girls 120. Which usually works out to around 170 total out the door. Never had any problems, but then again, I don't try out too many places (mainly just hit up Kison). I tend to stick with the Chinese MTs who are usually happy with me paying 140 total (ie: Lilly, Vicki, Sisi).

Simple economics will tell you that if the going rate is 140 in Los Angeles, the girls working in Hawaii would be OK with receiving the same amount, IF Hawaii mongers stopped simply paying 200 every time. Of course there are exceptions with the super-star girls who will always command higher prices, but for the average 30 year old + girls with average to slightly above average service, I don't see why they should really be getting more than 140 to 160.

Also, can we stop with the "standard fees" nonsense, and just say exactly what we paid? I think we all know that standard fees is 200, but see'mon, why is everyone so scared to put it out there?

We have some leverage to put prices down to more manageable levels. I'm sure we would all monger more if we only had to pay 140 vs 200. So everyone wins. Girls get more money but for more work, we get more punani.[/QUOTE]The problem when you compare the two prices is 50/200 goes to the house. The way I see it is 50 is for the TS. To my understanding AMPs elsewhere TS is rare. So I think places like Kison and CC establishments should have a lower rate. But to avoid any controversey I avoid them period. Now with all that said I tip according to how thevservice is. I would say 120 is a good low number but have gotten into some standoffs because of it. A couple time I tipped as low as 80, but service was that terrible. This all of course doesn't include HF. I tend to not to share price of service because in the past there have been members beng critical if its below 200. BTW, could you share some good spots in LA, I will be heading there in a couple months. I was planning on doing the AAMP thing, but that runs 250. I want to test out the AMP waters if theres any place worth trying. Feel free to pm.

[QUOTE=YG365;1543276]I have an idea! Every time we hit up an AMP, we should offer to pay 1. 0 instead of 1. 5. I mean, compared to other states and countries, we're paying way more! I think that's why so many girls from the mainland and other countries come and stay for a long time! Who's with me? LOL[/QUOTE]Nobody wants to have to pay less than I do, considering the multiple tens of thousands I have spent in a short time that I wish I have back now. But your reasoning is all wrong. You want to compare Hawaii cost to other countries and states? Of course meccas of mongering like Thailand and the PI would be cheaper, but EVERYTHING is different in those foreign countries. Everything about the price of products, services and labor is different in a Third World country compared to a First World Country, including the value of a human life. So why would and why should mongering cost be the same when nothing else is? And that is just the meccas you choose to compare Hawaii with. What about the repressive sh'ithole countries like in the Middle East? What can you expect to get there and at what price?

And you want to compare to other states? Scan through the forum and threads and discussion about cities in other states. Show us a city with brothels that are remotely comparable to Honolulu. There ain't any.

So why don't you look see the glass as half full rather than half empty.

[QUOTE=Hentai Man; 1543687]I totally agree! I'm from LA, so average prices are 140 total in AMPs. For 200, you always get DDG young (early to mid 20s) girls. Prices in Hawaii are really expensive. When I monger here, I usually pay house fee and tip the girls 120. Which usually works out to around 170 total out the door. Never had any problems, but then again, I don't try out too many places (mainly just hit up Kison). I tend to stick with the Chinese MTs who are usually happy with me paying 140 total (ie: Lilly, Vicki, Sisi).

Simple economics will tell you that if the going rate is 140 in Los Angeles, the girls working in Hawaii would be OK with receiving the same amount, IF Hawaii mongers stopped simply paying 200 every time. Of course there are exceptions with the super-star girls who will always command higher prices, but for the average 30 year old + girls with average to slightly above average service, I don't see why they should really be getting more than 140 to 160.

Also, can we stop with the "standard fees" nonsense, and just say exactly what we paid? I think we all know that standard fees is 200, but see'mon, why is everyone so scared to put it out there?

We have some leverage to put prices down to more manageable levels. I'm sure we would all monger more if we only had to pay 140 vs 200. So everyone wins. Girls get more money but for more work, we get more punani.[/QUOTE]Hey Man, where do you monger in LA? What are the AMPs comparable to what we have that you think we should have a parity in prices? Just throw me some cities and some AMPs names and some threads on the forum so I could research them on this website.

You know what? They ain't there. There ain't any city on the mainland with the volume of discussion threads of mongering experiences and services that we have in Honolulu. Why is that? I accept the simplest explanation. That we have it better than them. The whole holistic experience, of plentiful AMPs that are relatively easy to find, stay put rather than disappear, safe and clean, beds and mirrors rather than greasy massage tables, politicians and LE that monitor and control but tolerate and live and let live as long as there is no pattern of coercion or human trafficking. This good holistic experience we have here does not exist in any other city on the mainland.

And you have to ask why we don't broadcast the girls that give us big discounts for repeat business? Why don't you tell us who your ATFs are who would settle for less and I will make sure I don't bring any more in my pocket for tips. No good deeds go unpunished.

[QUOTE=Splooge McDuck; 1543158]I tried some Ty at Rose Garden in CC. I hate those MT massage tables LOL.

L=8. 5 This spinna, is a winnah indeed. I agree 100% with what Jbravo posted on eveything about Ty's looks in his recent review in the MT thread. She only real little bit MILFy lookin, but only in the face. Her body is better than a lot of MT & AMP girls younger than her. She works out & it shows. 1st off, as most of you know, I don't like any ladys over 40. Only a few like Kison-Tiffany & Roses-Ari (The MILF Ari with an R) but even at her age, I was insanely attracted to Ty like you would not believe. Her body type really does it for me even tho she isn't totally hour glass excellence. She is tighter than most tho, I mean most her age & most providers in general. As Jb said in his review, no one is Jio-tight, but Ty is close. She says her perfectly shaped B's are natural. They feel real. If they are natural then they are the best naturals I have had so far. I noticed her abs six pack kind of pop out off of her tummy, like a pop up book LOL. Very nice. She has a tat right by her belly buttin area like Tia from MF. I freakin luv her body!

A=10 Friendly as hell, funny, smiley & upbeat. She speaks very good english & is so easy to talk to & get along with. She took instruction peferctly. No rush & willing to please.

S=10 She gives an incredibly relaxing massage that almost put me to sleep. I opted for a BBBJCIM only. Great smooth suction & at a nice speed. Sucks on the balls while stroking the dick too. She just so happened to also give the best HJ I have felt ever. Her soft hands & smooth strokes felt perfect. Always making sure to be caressing, tickling, or scratching the balls as she tugged me. She would use 2 hands on the shaft & twist her hands sliding up & down the joystick like she was churning butter. Alternated between BBBJ, BLS+HJ, & HJ for about 15 mins till I CIM. After I took a shower, she asked me if I wanted another massage to fill the hour. But instead we hugged & DFK & talked story a bit. More making out & groping turned into HJCIT (HJ & Cum In Tissue). I took another shower & I wish I didn't have to leave. Can't wait to go back.

Will repeat & highly recommend.

S Mc[/QUOTE]Dude. Why you nevah full service this hawtie? From your description of her, I thought you wouldve mauled this girl silly.

Thanks for the info. I think I goin boink Chanel 7 (HOF ATF & World Class Meat Curtains) , Aki Rose (just want to stick my tongue down her throat) or Lala Rappongi / Joy Ginza (luv my filipinas) next. Maybe in that order.

Be safe,

I808

All you mongers I'm 69 years old no way can I fuck a good looking girl for $150. If we stop paying and try to be cheap, the good looking girls will not come to Hawaii. $50 house fee is very reasonable, hotels cost over $200 for a nice room.

Happy Mongering

[QUOTE=LittleTigger; 1543465]I highly recommend this one.

[url]http://posting.honolulu.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=3219674&uid=859a838edd404cd1516e380d2be5933f[/url][/QUOTE]Sounds like a plan! I got good advice from some senior members and have narrowed it down to Chanel, TY, Bonnie and poss. Sua. I will report later.

Mahalo my brothers

Just pay what's expected and don't try to negotiate cause it just makes trouble. Short tipping leads to distrust and the girls start aski. G for the tip upfront. This puts them at greater risk for arrest. And if it becomes a regular thing where all the girls start asking for the tip upfront, then it will put us at risk for arrest. Pay what's expected and without question and nobody can get arrested for soliciting. Stay home and jerk off if you no like pay the full price.

Second prices is marketable. It all depends on you and her, of course they get upset and it brings down their self worth but they are rating themselves at a hourly rate vs dailey rate.

When the whole ward half hour deal occurred girls that were fugly that were basically get. 8 and house. 3 a bill so total you spending $.3 has a short term revenue plan. Look at what happend they are now closed out. So the pros is cheaper for us but the cons can be loss of business in terms of business closing down. I think this was the leading cause of why those places shut down because negotiations were being had in the room at the time and all that based on what mongers wanted and willing to pay. So yeah I think everyone that thought this was a good idea ended costing them a spot to go to. The fugly ones were making like a G a day but everywhere else at the time was handling 2-4 if lucky.

So complaining about price is something that has it's consequences. But that is ok. People on a budget are going to fork it up for the rest of us. And it is those that think they know what they are doing that get the rest in problems. I don't know the answers but I do know this, negotiations should not be discussed on how they happen but that they do happen without details being revealed.

[QUOTE=Ingwa;1544743]Just pay what's expected and don't try to negotiate cause it just makes trouble. Short tipping leads to distrust and the girls start aski. G for the tip upfront. This puts them at greater risk for arrest. And if it becomes a regular thing where all the girls start asking for the tip upfront, then it will put us at risk for arrest. Pay what's expected and without question and nobody can get arrested for soliciting. Stay home and jerk off if you no like pay the full price.[/QUOTE]I had shet service once. So I tipped less and the girl said I didn't give enough. LOL.

I ponied up a bit more to the standard. But you know ill never ever ever see her again. But thats just how it is.

Honolulu paying more is what brings down the talent from overseas. Now if you want to pay less because of service and what not that's your thing and completely up to you. But by trying to control the prices and all that is what's going to make things get bad IMHO. Let the noobs and non enthusiasts keep over paying and MS or the chick do their game in trying to get more. Paradise tax is a *****, but it must be done, try to look at it as paying alittle extra for the overall quality of everything.

Just saying

[QUOTE=Insatiable808; 1544447]Dude. Why you nevah full service this hawtie? From your description of her, I thought you wouldve mauled this girl silly.

Thanks for the info. I think I goin boink Chanel 7 (HOF ATF & World Class Meat Curtains) , Aki Rose (just want to stick my tongue down her throat) or Lala Rappongi / Joy Ginza (luv my filipinas) next. Maybe in that order.

Be safe,

I808[/QUOTE]Hehe, bro I gutta save my $$ for The Chanel 7 babaaay! Nah but yah, that Ty really does it for me ya know. I am totally going back to get it in the Ty tang!

Tyyy! I'ma slide myyy, provider thigh divider, deep inside ya vagina / Then do whatever you desire.

Squat humper, bouncer, slider, or grinder / I'll turn a CowGirl rider, into a straight up Gangnam Styler!

Have you horsey dance on my ass until you say that you're tired / Get you wetter than the weather in December when I make you sweat & perspire.

I'd love to D-A-T-Y ya, & I'm normally not a diner / But I would lick you from your toenail polish, to your eyeliner.

I'm goin try her & defile her, until our hour expires / Until mama knocks on the door & my Ty tells me nevermind her.

I'm goin see this M-T, & say forget the massagey / Just get your bangin body, & that punani, on top me!

S Mc

[QUOTE=Ocolumbo; 1544128]Hey Man, where do you monger in LA? What are the AMPs comparable to what we have that you think we should have a parity in prices? Just throw me some cities and some AMPs names and some threads on the forum so I could research them on this website.

You know what? They ain't there. There ain't any city on the mainland with the volume of discussion threads of mongering experiences and services that we have in Honolulu. Why is that? I accept the simplest explanation. That we have it better than them. The whole holistic experience, of plentiful AMPs that are relatively easy to find, stay put rather than disappear, safe and clean, beds and mirrors rather than greasy massage tables, politicians and LE that monitor and control but tolerate and live and let live as long as there is no pattern of coercion or human trafficking. This good holistic experience we have here does not exist in any other city on the mainland.

And you have to ask why we don't broadcast the girls that give us big discounts for repeat business? Why don't you tell us who your ATFs are who would settle for less and I will make sure I don't bring any more in my pocket for tips. No good deeds go unpunished.[/QUOTE]LA k gals are difft. You can go AMPs, but if you want escorts youll need references and all that jazz. The scene is more controlled in that sense. But it all depends what you want. If you have the cash, head overseas. The wash outs from the mother land come to the USA. Thats just the truth and how it is.