Just thought I'd ask once before hitting the clubs tomorrow: anyone have any information or opinions they'd care to share regarding hailey or Tiffany at the boat?
Printable View
Just thought I'd ask once before hitting the clubs tomorrow: anyone have any information or opinions they'd care to share regarding hailey or Tiffany at the boat?
If I was interested in the hottest girls in town and fine with there being limited to no extras, would Curves be the place to go? Not particularly interested in weekend or Fr / Sat nights. Venom and RR are great for what they are but where are all the cute you of A coeds going to pay off their tuition? LOL.
I strolled into Curves Friday afternoon. I met a tall blond with a tramp stamp on her back. We did the private area. She told me the cost was 25 plus 2 for the house (bullshit). We go in the back and she starts with rules: no touching the pussy, or titty twisting or sucking. It was a horrible dance. This snotty ***** said she was from Alaska. AVOID.
The next lady I met had tig bitties, brunette, milfy. She had a marijuana vape that she took a hit on. She gave my hand cleanser right away. She must have known I was going to finger her pretty pussy. We go in the private area and she puts her giant titties in my.
Mouth and starts humping my leg. I put my finger in and she starts to moan. She was very wet and came on my leg!
The last dancer I met was a very young cuban spinner. Very sexy. She told me the private dance would be good. It was. She started humping and grinding my leg. When she turned around she moved her gstring to give me access to her pussy. I put 3 fingers up in her. I highly, highly recommend the latter 2 dancers. Curves dancers can be very snooty and they will not fuck you in the club (mostly). If you are happy with stinky finger and maybe making out it can be a great option. Lets face it fellas. We are.
Very lucky in Tucson. Most of the clubs in the US offer very little as far as extras I. E New Mexico, Cali, Colo and many other states.
[QUOTE=PoopSnicker;4383994]Very lucky in Tucson. Most of the clubs in the US offer very little as far as extras I. E New Mexico, Cali, Colo and many other states.[/QUOTE]That's no shit! This place is a gold mine compared to where I've been. Some Oregon clubs have some great two way touching but that's about it unless you know one of them is an escort and you can arrange something OTC.
Hi not sure on the Gal named Haley; Did have some fun with Harley- older spinner but fun no extras in the CR but I enjoyed the dances Fun to talk with
[QUOTE=TheLadysMan;4369085]Anyone have any insight to offer on a white girl named Haley at the boat?[/QUOTE].
Had dances from Royce on the couch at Venom. It was full-contact sport. No real need for cabana in this case.
Got table dances from Whitney and Rain. Both get my highest recommendation for table dances.
[QUOTE=StripperLuv;4388873]Got table dances from Whitney and Rain. Both get my highest recommendation for table dances.[/QUOTE]From the boat? Cute little AA spinner with the aluminum eyelids?
[QUOTE=Tecolote32;4389037]From the boat? Cute little AA spinner with the aluminum eyelids?[/QUOTE]This was at Venom. She's a cute spinner AA with a nice body.
[QUOTE=StripperLuv;4389065]This was at Venom. She's a cute spinner AA with a nice body.[/QUOTE]Yeah got to be the same one. She does give a good dance. She's not my type at all, love my women thick, but she came on strong at the boat one time and I said why not. Glad I did 👍.
[QUOTE=StripperLuv;4389065]This was at Venom. She's a cute spinner AA with a nice body.[/QUOTE]I got dances from Rain earlier this week. I doubt she weighs more than 100, and she's got one of the most appealing asses I've ever seen or felt. I got dances that day from her and her two other Phoenix car-mates (they drive down to dance in Tucson), and her dances were far better than the other two -- Stacy and Duchess. I also got dances that day from CeeCee, and she rocked my world.
I picked up a rumor recently at Venom regarding Lisa. Whether it is true I cannot say. But the info indicates that to avoid taking something unexpected home, it may be better to avoid the cabana with her.
Safe dances, everyone.
[QUOTE=OnlyMe;4390356]I got dances from Rain earlier this week. I doubt she weighs more than 100, and she's got one of the most appealing asses I've ever seen or felt. I got dances that day from her and her two other Phoenix car-mates (they drive down to dance in Tucson), and her dances were far better than the other two -- Stacy and Duchess. I also got dances that day from CeeCee, and she rocked my world.
I picked up a rumor recently at Venom regarding Lisa. Whether it is true I cannot say. But the info indicates that to avoid taking something unexpected home, it may be better to avoid the cabana with her.
Safe dances, everyone.[/QUOTE]Lisa / Karen doesn't deliver as far as I know. HJ only.
Miss Mya is back at Venom in the evenings and she looks amazing after her recent enhancements.
[QUOTE=Tecolote32;4389672]Yeah got to be the same one. She does give a good dance. She's not my type at all, love my women thick, but she came on strong at the boat one time and I said why not. Glad I did 👍.[/QUOTE]Re: Rain at Venom. Had a minute with her a couple months ago that was going well, and we settled on an acceptable cabana deal. Went in with her, and she insisted on getting paid up front, which is a "never" for me, and she wouldn't budge, so I walked. Even got my cabana fee back from the DJ.
Did I make a mistake? At that time, I only had 1 data point which was that she wouldn't do FS nor BBBJ, she would get one of her GF's to pinch-hit, and I wasn't about to let that happen.
Please pm me if she's actually come thru for anyone. I know it's probably highly customer-dependent, but, chicks usually dig me! LOL!
Happy heat wave.
Hit up venom a bit ago. Gorgeous crossed my path. Spent way more than I should have but no other complaints at all.
Great body, great attitude, but I certainly learned my lesson, never walk in with blue balls and more cash in the wallet than I'm willing to spend.
Met up a hard body hottie named Monet at the boat this weekend but it was after have enjoyed myself with a few other dancers in the cr. Pretty good floor dances Anyone partaken of her in the past?
Ran in her. Very attractive. However, when I asked about extras in CR, she said not her thing. Of course, with some time, YMMV.
[QUOTE=TheLadysMan;4392390]Met up a hard body hottie named Monet at the boat this weekend but it was after have enjoyed myself with a few other dancers in the cr. Pretty good floor dances Anyone partaken of her in the past?[/QUOTE]
SL.
You have exceeded your PM storage capacity. LOL, at least that was the message I received.
I know she's been talked about before, but I met her tonight at the boat. Had a great time after a very suggestive table dance. Several beautiful ladies there tonight. I almost asked a waitress if she'd join me in the c.r.
[QUOTE=DrumLover;4392987]I know she's been talked about before, but I met her tonight at the boat. Had a great time after a very suggestive table dance. Several beautiful ladies there tonight. I almost asked a waitress if she'd join me in the c.r.[/QUOTE]Sabrina is a 100%, genuine, dedicated man pleasure. That's her mission in life. And she shares it with everyone. She has the skills individually and in threesomes.
[QUOTE=StripperLuv;4393924]Sabrina is a 100%, genuine, dedicated man pleasure. That's her mission in life. And she shares it with everyone. She has the skills individually and in threesomes.[/QUOTE]Last night there was another lady, and I could not catch her name, but I saw her on the stage when I walked in and was kind of mind blown. She had a very nice body with nice bolt ons and very short hair. Sexy as fuck. After the stage she came right over to me and gave me a decent dance but when I would touch her tits she would kind of rub my hands off. At first I thought it was coincidence so I tried again with the same result. So no titty touching I guess. She never led on that anything extra would go on anywhere else and never even asked if I wanted to go to the CR. Anyway, her body is just about perfect. Wish I knew her name.
[QUOTE=DrumLover;4394445]Last night there was another lady, and I could not catch her name, but I saw her on the stage when I walked in and was kind of mind blown. She had a very nice body with nice bolt ons and very short hair. Sexy as fuck. After the stage she came right over to me and gave me a decent dance but when I would touch her tits she would kind of rub my hands off. At first I thought it was coincidence so I tried again with the same result. So no titty touching I guess. She never led on that anything extra would go on anywhere else and never even asked if I wanted to go to the CR. Anyway, her body is just about perfect. Wish I knew her name.[/QUOTE]Was this girl a super toned blonde with a kinda bobb hairstyle?
Anyone have any experience with Jazzy at the boat? Hispanic, thick with plump lips and busty as hell.
Speaking of the boat, Rider or Ryder is always great. Really enthusiastic floor dances and personable but as far as I can tell nothing extra on the table.
[QUOTE=DesertDD;4397470]Anyone have any experience with Jazzy at the boat? Hispanic, thick with plump lips and busty as hell.
Speaking of the boat, Rider or Ryder is always great. Really enthusiastic floor dances and personable but as far as I can tell nothing extra on the table.[/QUOTE]You have to pick the right girls for extra. Fun can be had there if you take some time to talk to these girls and plan your CR trip but make sure to agree on price and service before you go in. Because they can charge you as much as $20 per song and songs can add up quickly there.
[QUOTE=AzPussy;4398151]You have to pick the right girls for extra. Fun can be had there if you take some time to talk to these girls and plan your CR trip but make sure to agree on price and service before you go in. Because they can charge you as much as $20 per song and songs can add up quickly there.[/QUOTE]I was there yesterday checking it out and just for kicks timed 10 songs, only 2 were 3 min, rest between 2:20 and 2:45, so yes the songs fly by, they should lower prices if they are shortening the songs so much.
Saw Sabrina (venom-star), but she was busy, also a short petite hardbody that did the shoe slamming on the stage alot and reminded me of the star from the boat years ago who used to get customers kicked out, might be the same gal as she had a real grim face on most of the time. Wonder if Angelica is still there (tall, blonde, petite chest, athletic build).
Thanks,
J.
[QUOTE=jymjim;4398400]I was there yesterday checking it out and just for kicks timed 10 songs, only 2 were 3 min, rest between 2:20 and 2:45, so yes the songs fly by, they should lower prices if they are shortening the songs so much.
Saw Sabrina (venom-star), but she was busy, also a short petite hardbody that did the shoe slamming on the stage alot and reminded me of the star from the boat years ago who used to get customers kicked out, might be the same gal as she had a real grim face on most of the time. Wonder if Angelica is still there (tall, blonde, petite chest, athletic build).
Thanks,
J.[/QUOTE]Sabrina aka Star is always busy. She needs an answering service to take appointments. I would hate being her last customer of the day.
The shoe slammer is the same Star. Always in a bad mood. Sabrina is busy, she tells me she doesn't have a phone right now but who knows with her.
[QUOTE=jymjim;4398400]I was there yesterday checking it out and just for kicks timed 10 songs, only 2 were 3 min, rest between 2:20 and 2:45, so yes the songs fly by, they should lower prices if they are shortening the songs so much.
Saw Sabrina (venom-star), but she was busy, also a short petite hardbody that did the shoe slamming on the stage alot and reminded me of the star from the boat years ago who used to get customers kicked out, might be the same gal as she had a real grim face on most of the time. Wonder if Angelica is still there (tall, blonde, petite chest, athletic build).
Thanks,
J.[/QUOTE]
I was at the Boat the other day and it always sounds like the DJ is talking through a pillow. Try as I did, I could not understand about 75% of what he was saying. No doubt part of the reason I don't frequent the clubs much--it's hard to know who I am looking at. As I was only there for a very short time, I asked a girl who came by looking to give a floor dance what her name was for the next time I go back. She replied "Ace". Cute girl, but I've never heard that name before on this board. Was I getting the runaround?
[QUOTE=TheLadysMan;4396157]Was this girl a super toned blonde with a kinda bobb hairstyle?[/QUOTE]Her hair is very short, a little messy on top and trimmed up on the sides and back. She has dark hair, couldn't tell if it was dark red or brunette. Not the prettiest face, but her figure is insane!
[QUOTE=StripperLuv;4398654]Sabrina aka Star is always busy. She needs an answering service to take appointments. I would hate being her last customer of the day.[/QUOTE]I don't think she needs the answering service as I believe she implemented a number system like the dmv. She'll see you in numerical order with certain appointments taking presidence.
[QUOTE=TheLadysMan;4401781]I don't think she needs the answering service as I believe she implemented a number system like the dmv. She'll see you in numerical order with certain appointments taking presidence.[/QUOTE]OMG that's so true. And don't miss your number being called or else you're SOL.
She (Phantom) was coming on stage as I was leaving. So I missed out. But I was intrigued. Any of you had any experience with her?
Dropped by around 1 pm Lots of Dancers and few mongers. Did like Star dancing missed out on Karen Saw Harley doing pole dancing; Liked that Missed seeing Britain and my other favorites.
Also visited the boat today same time lots I'd blah girls nothing to brag about did she Karen but she was busy with multiple grandpas one after the other I guess they are the ones that will pay for a handy. Other than that there were no girls to take in the private. Moved to Venom and it was the same thing lots of heavy weight contenders but nothing to savor. Let the clubs to do some shoes for my car down miracle mile since I was getting a great deal and stoped by TD's west. Let me tell you that place is really going down hill place looks like shit. Three dancers all heavy set and a couple of guys hanging by the bar looking at the game on TV. It was deader than a cemetery. I did get a few dances from the best looking gal still heavy but cute. We had a nice conversation, she ddI say the owner is selling both clubs which I met the owner just by luck.
If any of you inserted on buying a club go to TD west you will find him there.
Interesting reviews. I guess my standards have dropped. LOL.
I found quite a number of attractive women prancing the floor and stage.
As one of the "grandpas", I had a sweet time with genevieve within 15 minutes of walking in.
Selena (venom name) swung by with offers but $ was short so we played discretely on the floor.
Exotica is a hottie that I'd love to find out more about.
There were 2 tall AA girls that were looking fine to me and divine has a rockin' body!
All in all I had a great time and glad I stopped in.
Happy diving boys!
Economics of Venom cabanas vs. Raiders Champaign Room.
Admission fee to the cabanas at Venom is $30 (with the dancer paying an additional $10 after the cabana time is finished). Admission fee to the Champaign Room at Raiders is $0 (the dancer pays a small fee to the bouncer afterwards).
Back when the Venom fee was reasonablesay up to $20, I'd take a chance by taking a dancer to the cabana even if I wasn't sure I'd be getting interesting and fulfilling entertainment. The fee was low enough that I'd try out new talent at a reasonable overhead. I'd find dancers whose talents and skills were previously unknown to me. It was like an audition with many becoming regular providers. That's not the case anymore. With the cabana fee at $30, I pretty much have to know in advance if I'm going to get a GFE / FS experience before I go in. This has consequences to the club, the dancer, and me.
The club has priced itself to the point that fewer customers go to the cabana. High cabana fees are a result of the greed of the club management. These results are less revenue for the club. The dancers are affected because they make less money since customers aren't taking as many trips to the cabanas. This affects me because I have to factor in the overhead to whatever I'm going to give the dancer for her time and services. That didn't use to be the case.
At Raiders, the customer and dancer walk into the Champaign Room, do whatever business they are doing, and walk out. There is no management-imposed impediment to the customer for enjoying himself. Additionally, in recent months, the talent pool has improved at Raiders. The club used to be known as the club dancers go to die. It was the banishment club that Curves management sent dancers when they messed up or Curves didn't want to hire.
In a free-market economy, deciding where to spend time and money is becoming clearer. At Raiders I can play around discovering the talents and skills of many dancers without punitive club fees for Champagne Room entrance. At Venom, I pretty much have to know a dancer and also know she's going to make me happy before I enjoy her company in the cabana. There's no more experimenting to discover fresh dancers or new skills.
Is it any wonder that dancers and others are bemoaning the lack of customers at Venom? Dancers complain about not making any money any more. It seems their money-making ability has been deterred. It was once said by the owner that the reason the cabanas were built in the first place was "for the dancers to make real money. " The dancers aren't making didley squat (like they used to) if cabana fees are keeping the customers from enjoying the cabanas more often.
When two clubs are offering different prices for the "same" thing, the customers are going to take the lower price option. (And it is virtually the "same" thingI've had threesomes in the Champaign Room and in the cabanas.) Predatory pricing at Venom will be its ultimate downfall.
[QUOTE=StripperLuv;4411386]When two clubs are offering different prices for the "same" thing, the customers are going to take the lower price option. (And it is virtually the "same" thingI've had threesomes in the Champaign Room and in the cabanas.) Predatory pricing at Venom will be its ultimate downfall.[/QUOTE]Absolutely! I agree wholeheartedly. When I first heard of the price increase I thought it was a joke or I was somehow getting scammed by the dancer. The only single positive Venom has going for it is the increased privacy but not at that price premium.
[QUOTE=StripperLuv;4411386]Economics of Venom cabanas vs. Raiders Champaign Room.
Admission fee to the cabanas at Venom is $30 (with the dancer paying an additional $10 after the cabana time is finished). Admission fee to the Champaign Room at Raiders is $0 (the dancer pays a small fee to the bouncer afterwards).
Back when the Venom fee was reasonablesay up to $20, I'd take a chance by taking a dancer to the cabana even if I wasn't sure I'd be getting interesting and fulfilling entertainment. The fee was low enough that I'd try out new talent at a reasonable overhead. I'd find dancers whose talents and skills were previously unknown to me. It was like an audition with many becoming regular providers. That's not the case anymore. With the cabana fee at $30, I pretty much have to know in advance if I'm going to get a GFE / FS experience before I go in. This has consequences to the club, the dancer, and me.
The club has priced itself to the point that fewer customers go to the cabana. High cabana fees are a result of the greed of the club management. These results are less revenue for the club. The dancers are affected because they make less money since customers aren't taking as many trips to the cabanas. This affects me because I have to factor in the overhead to whatever I'm going to give the dancer for her time and services. That didn't use to be the case.
At Raiders, the customer and dancer walk into the Champaign Room, do whatever business they are doing, and walk out. There is no management-imposed impediment to the customer for enjoying himself. Additionally, in recent months, the talent pool has improved at Raiders. The club used to be known as the club dancers go to die. It was the banishment club that Curves management sent dancers when they messed up or Curves didn't want to hire.
In a free-market economy, deciding where to spend time and money is becoming clearer. At Raiders I can play around discovering the talents and skills of many dancers without punitive club fees for Champagne Room entrance. At Venom, I pretty much have to know a dancer and also know she's going to make me happy before I enjoy her company in the cabana. There's no more experimenting to discover fresh dancers or new skills.
Is it any wonder that dancers and others are bemoaning the lack of customers at Venom? Dancers complain about not making any money any more. It seems their money-making ability has been deterred. It was once said by the owner that the reason the cabanas were built in the first place was "for the dancers to make real money. " The dancers aren't making didley squat (like they used to) if cabana fees are keeping the customers from enjoying the cabanas more often.
When two clubs are offering different prices for the "same" thing, the customers are going to take the lower price option. (And it is virtually the "same" thingI've had threesomes in the Champaign Room and in the cabanas.) Predatory pricing at Venom will be its ultimate downfall.[/QUOTE]Nice economics lesson. I agree completely. It is hard to spend money on an unknown factor. Maybe the club manage did not pay attention in economics class, heh? The heffer factor at venom may also be turning customers away. Offer what customers want. Not what despise.
This. By increasing their prices to compensate for a dwindling customer base they are killing it off quicker. Therefore dancers are going to leave, meaning more customers are going to leave too. Its a vicious cycle.
[QUOTE=StripperLuv;4411386]Economics of Venom cabanas vs. Raiders Champaign Room.
Admission fee to the cabanas at Venom is $30 (with the dancer paying an additional $10 after the cabana time is finished). Admission fee to the Champaign Room at Raiders is $0 (the dancer pays a small fee to the bouncer afterwards).
Back when the Venom fee was reasonablesay up to $20, I'd take a chance by taking a dancer to the cabana even if I wasn't sure I'd be getting interesting and fulfilling entertainment. The fee was low enough that I'd try out new talent at a reasonable overhead. I'd find dancers whose talents and skills were previously unknown to me. It was like an audition with many becoming regular providers. That's not the case anymore. With the cabana fee at $30, I pretty much have to know in advance if I'm going to get a GFE / FS experience before I go in. This has consequences to the club, the dancer, and me.
The club has priced itself to the point that fewer customers go to the cabana. High cabana fees are a result of the greed of the club management. These results are less revenue for the club. The dancers are affected because they make less money since customers aren't taking as many trips to the cabanas. This affects me because I have to factor in the overhead to whatever I'm going to give the dancer for her time and services. That didn't use to be the case.
At Raiders, the customer and dancer walk into the Champaign Room, do whatever business they are doing, and walk out. There is no management-imposed impediment to the customer for enjoying himself. Additionally, in recent months, the talent pool has improved at Raiders. The club used to be known as the club dancers go to die. It was the banishment club that Curves management sent dancers when they messed up or Curves didn't want to hire.
In a free-market economy, deciding where to spend time and money is becoming clearer. At Raiders I can play around discovering the talents and skills of many dancers without punitive club fees for Champagne Room entrance. At Venom, I pretty much have to know a dancer and also know she's going to make me happy before I enjoy her company in the cabana. There's no more experimenting to discover fresh dancers or new skills.
Is it any wonder that dancers and others are bemoaning the lack of customers at Venom? Dancers complain about not making any money any more. It seems their money-making ability has been deterred. It was once said by the owner that the reason the cabanas were built in the first place was "for the dancers to make real money. " The dancers aren't making didley squat (like they used to) if cabana fees are keeping the customers from enjoying the cabanas more often.
When two clubs are offering different prices for the "same" thing, the customers are going to take the lower price option. (And it is virtually the "same" thingI've had threesomes in the Champaign Room and in the cabanas.) Predatory pricing at Venom will be its ultimate downfall.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StripperLuv;4411386]Economics of Venom cabanas vs. Raiders Champaign Room.[/QUOTE]This is a great post, dead on. As a Newbie, the boat is my choice. I have been to both places and the service, the girls, the atmosphere, just about everything, is better. Venom is making bad business decisions and the boat is and will continue to benefit. So will we.