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All I have to say is. Loose lips sink ships.

Its a shame cause this palce was a jewel but too much info killed it for us.

Let us all learn from this and be discreet, very discreet.

Stay safe my fellow mongers.

TC69

[QUOTE=BigDaddy34;1193306]This is just to give everyone the heads up about her. I have been seeing her on and off for almost a year now. So I've spent some time with her. She and I have had some time to talk. And if you show up at her door and your all rude or pushy, or just in general an asshole. Then all that is going to happen is you might get a massage. She does not put up with it. On the other hand, if you show up and act like you been raised right. You might get somewhere, I don't guarantee anything. But your chances improve greatly. The main point I'm trying to get across is just be a gentlemen. She is just a single mom trying to make it here.[/QUOTE]I agree with you on this one. She is a nice girl.

[QUOTE=Loving302; 1193225]Absolutely agree with you. We are all looking for a "better" experience, but in my opinion ONE posting is enough. I don't think anyone is looking for bragging rights, and hopefully not just to increase the number of postings here.

I believe everyone needs to be careful and if said ONCE that should be enough. I always go back to a great saying I heard many years ago,"Some things are better left unsaid!"[/QUOTE]We should stop talkling so much. Think about it the ones that brag the most are not doing the most.

Marc

She is really NO DIFFERENT from most of the ladies we engage with in our wonderful hobby. ALL of us expect to be respected and she is not any different. I have also spent time with her and all I can tell you is she is one of the best. But remember respect and services go hand in hand. Based on being a "true" gentleman and not some crude *hole will make you feel like a king. And I agree she is a really NICE GIRL!

[QUOTE=True Critic69;1193353]I agree with you on this one. She is a nice girl.[/QUOTE]

Not to be argumentative but I think we need to keep in mind one thing Jay. We don't know what led to the closing of Ocean. Now I concede that I was not a customer and do not know first hand, but as I understand it this business was not run in a low key fashion and drew a lot of attention to itself. So lets not be quick to blame over share on this board. I believe some one made the comparrison to Bliss. I think he may be a good analogy but not in the way intended. Lots of blame was put on this board for Bliss closing but the place was supposed to do body wraps. I was there several times and there was never even a pretense of doing a body wrap. Things like make investigators jobs easy. Point is less keep balance. There is such a thing as overshare but that doesn't mean that everytime a place gets busted its due to things said here.

[QUOTE=Loving302; 1193225]Absolutely agree with you. We are all looking for a "better" experience, but in my opinion ONE posting is enough. I don't think anyone is looking for bragging rights, and hopefully not just to increase the number of postings here.

I believe everyone needs to be careful and if said ONCE that should be enough. I always go back to a great saying I heard many years ago,"Some things are better left unsaid!"[/QUOTE]

I stopped by Ocean Spa: Closed. Sign on the door says that they are temporarily closed until they get the proper license.

I made the mistake of stopping by the other place, across the way, Oriental Spa. Avoid this waste of money. Nothing to be seen or offered. TS is an extra $20 if you have a massage. Bottom line: waste of time and money. Don't go to Oriental Spa.

Be safe.

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[QUOTE=Seminole John;1193394]Not to be argumentative but I think we need to keep in mind one thing Jay. We don't know what led to the closing of Ocean. Now I concede that I was not a customer and do not know first hand, but as I understand it this business was not run in a low key fashion and drew a lot of attention to itself. So lets not be quick to blame over share on this board. I believe some one made the comparrison to Bliss. I think he may be a good analogy but not in the way intended. Lots of blame was put on this board for Bliss closing but the place was supposed to do body wraps. I was there several times and there was never even a pretense of doing a body wrap. Things like make investigators jobs easy. Point is less keep balance. There is such a thing as overshare but that doesn't mean that everytime a place gets busted its due to things said here.[/QUOTE]Ocean had so many ads on Backpage and when you went there you were met a the door by girls in short dress with no panties and bolts on almost hanging out. They were not trying to be low keyed. Also this place was ran by the same person as TR on 50. Does anyone know if that place is closed. This board was blowing that place up before ocean spa opened. Hate to see the place close. Hopefully in the future the girls and owners at AMP will be more discreet. I don't know what LEO can get away with if they are trying to bait a girl but I doubt they are supposed to roam over her body. These girls need to test guys out and let them roam alittle before they start talking about money.

Ocean Spa is closed!

All of a sudden everyone on here is a expert on"Leo this and Leo that" "Court of Law"

"can't prove this and that" "nothing said on this board means anything"

Some of you don't get it! OC is closed and it don't make a dam why-they are closed- the Govt. Won, they are closed, the Govt won, we lose. Thats all that matters. You guys talk about proving in " a court of law" BULLSHIT over 90% of all cases are plea bargained, NOTHING HAD TO BE PROVED.

Seminole John- I posted about Bliss, you don't have a clue and I know every tiny detail-NOTHING WAS PROVED, CHARGES WERE NEVER FILED, Altamonte's giant raid was without warrant and absolutely not one speck of their "case" held water, thus no charges filed, but the real point is THEIR CLOSED it has nothing to do with LE, their pressure comes from above, they would be very happy to write parking tickets and do their 20 yrs. And retire.

Your remark about body wraps means nothing all the girls were ABSOLUTELY LICENSED and knew how to qualify clients, in fact you qualified yourself and thus there needn't be any pretense and they were never charged with anything-but THEIR CLOSED. GET IT.

Some of you watch too much TV, that is not how the real world works. It is 100% political. Pressure comes from above, the patrol cops have told many a SW to get off the streets during their shift, they don't want to arrest her they just don't want to hear any shit from there superior for "not arresting her"

If you don't think running your mouth on here has any effect, then how come OS was closed so quickly and WP message has operated for 25 yrs. , ask yourself that? You rocket scientists.

It gets very tiring trying to get info into your heads when all you do is yak, yak when so many of you absolutely know nothing about the game.

Before Bliss opened, when the rumors started, I came on here and asked that there be very soft reviews and if you weren't happy, to speak to the mgr. Bingo, Loving 305 comes on here and posts a glorious review as did others. He probably thought he was doing a great thing but Bliss was closed 30 days later.

I hope some of you will get it but I bet overall you will not, I'm not going to debate this issue, nor speak of it again, I've said my piece but the bottom line is the PLACE IS CLOSED. It doesn't matter how or why, debate it for 100 yrs if you want but the place is closed. Do you maybe get it yet-VS

Seeing Tina's picture on the arrest page broke my heart! The charge was "Unlicensed Practice Of A Health care Prof." Although she seems to have bonded out quickly, I would have gladly when down to 33rd and personally paid her bail fee myself. This gal was an absolutely breathtaking sweetheart with me in our little 3way rub. With respect to her privacy I blocked out her face with black line and misspelled her legal name on purpose. It seems Tina was the only gal to get arrested at Ocean Spa! Although she did not get charged with any illegal sex crimes, an arrest is still an arrest. Mongers I again will step up to the plate and apologize to each and every one of you guys for my part in fucking up a good thing for all of us by running my big fucking mouth giving out all the juicy details on this place. And I really do hope that one day the Ocean waters will soon see a beach near us again so that I may, some day have the pleasure of seeing and apologizing to Tina for all the trouble I helped unknowingly cause her. I will be the first one to admit now, although it's to late. The fact is that this internet is a very powerful and even dangerous information highway. And now because of this hole OS thing going on I have learned a very important lesson to SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH ALL THE DETAILS. And now I fully understand the (Code) Seniors have been following all along with all the shit I thought was a bit rude and very hush, hush. When the Seniors say "Senior members only PM me for details" or something of that nature, now I understand it as TRUSTED members only are allowed to PM for info. Well understood and respected by me now after this hole OS thing. Now that I don't feel safe sharing info and surely not in full detail ever again in the open for all to see. Due to the fact now that putting info on the forum in detail for all to see you can never be to sure if there is a rat, or Hater on here, weather it be a female provider loosing money and therefore hating or a monger who can't get in on action. Or let us not forget uncle fucking LEO who may be sitting back eating donuts and trolling the forums. I really feel horrible for Tina getting arrest because, again my big mouth spreading the juicy details about the place was just like adding gas to a small fire. But I will say to the asshole or should I say rat who really went to far by dropping the dime and ratting the place out. Even causing a sweet gal to briefly lose her freedom for helping make life a little better for us mongers, like the old saying go's. What go's around comes around! I would hope you become a better person than the Rat you really are cocksucker!

Thanks VS. Well put, think what ya want but VS is on target.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly; 1193480]Ocean Spa is closed!

All of a sudden everyone on here is a expert on"Leo this and Leo that" "Court of Law"

"can't prove this and that" "nothing said on this board means anything"

Some of you don't get it! OC is closed and it don't make a dam why-they are closed- the Govt. Won, they are closed, the Govt won, we lose. Thats all that matters. You guys talk about proving in " a court of law" BULLSHIT over 90% of all cases are plea bargained, NOTHING HAD TO BE PROVED.

Seminole John- I posted about Bliss, you don't have a clue and I know every tiny detail-NOTHING WAS PROVED, CHARGES WERE NEVER FILED, Altamonte's giant raid was without warrant and absolutely not one speck of their "case" held water, thus no charges filed, but the real point is THEIR CLOSED it has nothing to do with LE, their pressure comes from above, they would be very happy to write parking tickets and do their 20 yrs. And retire.

Your remark about body wraps means nothing all the girls were ABSOLUTELY LICENSED and knew how to qualify clients, in fact you qualified yourself and thus there needn't be any pretense and they were never charged with anything-but THEIR CLOSED. GET IT.

Some of you watch too much TV, that is not how the real world works. It is 100% political. Pressure comes from above, the patrol cops have told many a SW to get off the streets during their shift, they don't want to arrest her they just don't want to hear any shit from there superior for "not arresting her"

If you don't think running your mouth on here has any effect, then how come OS was closed so quickly and WP message has operated for 25 yrs. , ask yourself that? You rocket scientists.

It gets very tiring trying to get info into your heads when all you do is yak, yak when so many of you absolutely know nothing about the game.

Before Bliss opened, when the rumors started, I came on here and asked that there be very soft reviews and if you weren't happy, to speak to the mgr. Bingo, Loving 305 comes on here and posts a glorious review as did others. He probably thought he was doing a great thing but Bliss was closed 30 days later.

I hope some of you will get it but I bet overall you will not, I'm not going to debate this issue, nor speak of it again, I've said my piece but the bottom line is the PLACE IS CLOSED. It doesn't matter how or why, debate it for 100 yrs if you want but the place is closed. Do you maybe get it yet-VS[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=A John;1193584]Thanks VS. Well put, think what ya want but VS is on target.[/QUOTE]Yes they are closed, but others are making valid points that we don't know the full back story.

Unless someone has an OCSO source who tells them it was definitely this board, it could just as well have been another business in the area or a religious kook who complained about them. In that case they would still be closed even if this board did not exist.

Things like this make me thankful I live in Europe where the govt does not care what consenting adults do behind closed doors. Hopefully the US society will soon develop in this direction. Can't wait to see all the embarassed religious kooks when the world is still here on May 22nd.

The differance between a smart man and a wise man. The smart man learns from his mistakes, The wise man learns from others. Again THEIR CLOSED

My religious belief does not say what day its comming, just its comming and belive me its comming!

[QUOTE=Cbs200; 1193665]Yes they are closed, but others are making valid points that we don't know the full back story.

Unless someone has an OCSO source who tells them it was definitely this board, it could just as well have been another business in the area or a religious kook who complained about them. In that case they would still be closed even if this board did not exist.

Things like this make me thankful I live in Europe where the govt does not care what consenting adults do behind closed doors. Hopefully the US society will soon develop in this direction. Can't wait to see all the embarassed religious kooks when the world is still here on May 22nd. [/QUOTE]

I was out on Colonial today and drove by Total Relaxation. They appear to be closed as well. Their "open" sign was off and there was a note on the door. I did not bother to get out and go read it but the the recent goings on and being the same owner it would make sense.

VS I think you missed the point of what I was saying. I did not claim to know everything. In fact quite the opposite, it was that we don't know. You are correct the OC and Bliss are closed but we really don't know why they were raided. You must understand that correlation does not prove causation. My rooster crows every morning before sunrise. Does thatt means the crowing causes the sun to come up? The counter to that argument would be the fact there are many places that have had explicit reviews on here that have not been raided. If you look at the Brevard board there are places where detailed blow by blow details of what went down with what girl. Some of these places have been around 30 years and have never had issues with authorities. Others have been busted several times. I think that has more to do with owners relationships with authorites than what is said on this board and others like it. In terms of OS or Bliss or any other place in Orlando I would more faith in that correlation than whats posted hear.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly; 1193480]Ocean Spa is closed!

All of a sudden everyone on here is a expert on"Leo this and Leo that" "Court of Law"

"can't prove this and that" "nothing said on this board means anything"

Some of you don't get it! OC is closed and it don't make a dam why-they are closed- the Govt. Won, they are closed, the Govt won, we lose. Thats all that matters. You guys talk about proving in " a court of law" BULLSHIT over 90% of all cases are plea bargained, NOTHING HAD TO BE PROVED.

Seminole John- I posted about Bliss, you don't have a clue and I know every tiny detail-NOTHING WAS PROVED, CHARGES WERE NEVER FILED, Altamonte's giant raid was without warrant and absolutely not one speck of their "case" held water, thus no charges filed, but the real point is THEIR CLOSED it has nothing to do with LE, their pressure comes from above, they would be very happy to write parking tickets and do their 20 yrs. And retire.

Your remark about body wraps means nothing all the girls were ABSOLUTELY LICENSED and knew how to qualify clients, in fact you qualified yourself and thus there needn't be any pretense and they were never charged with anything-but THEIR CLOSED. GET IT.

Some of you watch too much TV, that is not how the real world works. It is 100% political. Pressure comes from above, the patrol cops have told many a SW to get off the streets during their shift, they don't want to arrest her they just don't want to hear any shit from there superior for "not arresting her"

If you don't think running your mouth on here has any effect, then how come OS was closed so quickly and WP message has operated for 25 yrs. , ask yourself that? You rocket scientists.

It gets very tiring trying to get info into your heads when all you do is yak, yak when so many of you absolutely know nothing about the game.

Before Bliss opened, when the rumors started, I came on here and asked that there be very soft reviews and if you weren't happy, to speak to the mgr. Bingo, Loving 305 comes on here and posts a glorious review as did others. He probably thought he was doing a great thing but Bliss was closed 30 days later.

I hope some of you will get it but I bet overall you will not, I'm not going to debate this issue, nor speak of it again, I've said my piece but the bottom line is the PLACE IS CLOSED. It doesn't matter how or why, debate it for 100 yrs if you want but the place is closed. Do you maybe get it yet-VS[/QUOTE]

Gentlemen's:

About a week ago I stopped by Oriental, believing that perhaps things had changed since OS opened. While I was there, I asked for price info pretending to be someone that has never been there before. When I asked about TS the girl reply with something a bit crazy like this 'We give good clean massage, go next door'. I must confess that I never asked for any extended menu nor did I get a massage. I just asked if they had TS, Sauna or steam room, etc. After I repeated my question the chick tried to fix her response. At that point I figured that things had not change and told her that I was going to check out next door. I wouldn't be surprise that the whole LEO thing was initiated by Oriental. Apparently whatever 'few' clients they had, was moving next door because of their arrogant way of doing business and OC excellent customer satisfaction rating.

I would and recommend that all mongers stay away Oriental, even if they were the last spa standing.

Bez

[QUOTE=A John; 1193753]The differance between a smart man and a wise man. The smart man learns from his mistakes, The wise man learns from others. Again THEIR CLOSED

My religious belief does not say what day its comming, just its comming and belive me its comming! [/QUOTE]Yes they are closed, but that does not mean that this board had anything to do with it.

If this board did not exist, they still might be closed because this is O-town and the powerful around here are paranoid that families will stop visiting the parks if they find out that people have sex here. This is just a wierd part of the country.

Regarding the end of the world, it will happen at the latest in 4 billion years when the sun becomes a red giant and swalllows the inner planets. In the meantime, there will probably be hundreds of mass extinction events from large meteorite impacts. But long before that, a new glacial period will again cover the continents of the northern hemisphere under thousands of feet of ice. That will not end the planet, but civilization will not likely survive. It will be welcome to the caveman days again.

But until then, enjoy your mongering activities!

Seminole John: Trying to get intellectual and develop correlations is for the logical mind. Comparing Brevard to Seminole and Orange county is laughable. There was a FS "mens Club" called the Boardroom across the street from the police station in Cocoa for 20 years. She even advertised with a billboard on I-95 south. She was eventually closed and replaced with an AMP. And there are still openly FS places in Brevard, are Brevard police stupid? Nope they are not. Police do not operate independently, Chiefs are appointed, Sheriffs are elected, either way they are at the.

Mercy of the dominant political party and the funding they provide, how many of you know that if you wanted to run for a seat on the Seminole County Commission it would cost you over $3000 just to apply in fees alone? Thats before you spent a dime on your campaign, and without the support of a party or if you are a Democrat-YOU don't have a prayer. Are you starting to get the picture?

It is strictly politics my friend, Brevard County has an Air Force Base, this area of Florida has Disney and Universal and Sea World. See if you can make the correlation, I will not explain it to the board, if you don't get it, so be it.

I have a question, if LE didn't get their info about "Ocean" and the FS that was going on there, then were in the hell did they get it from? They were around a month, and got raided, according to eye witness accounts, on this site. Personally I have never see as many posts blatantly saying what they got and from who as I've seen about "Ocean". And there is no direct correlation? Please-VS

I hope this discussion is nearing its end. This is what I've learned: 1) Ocean Spa is now closed (along with Total Relaxation) and 2) this is a bulletin board where we are supposed to talk about sex in the USA. A hundred more posts implying blame or defending people won't change either of the 2 facts.

My goal is to find a place and write a new review today.

Fg

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I think Fellow Guy is correct, lets move on. But there is one thing I won't let go. VS I think your tendancy to get personal is counter productive for this forum. You insinuate that because I have a different opinion that you I must be less intelligent. Thats pompous and arrogant, which are hardly signs of an enlightened mind. You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mind. If you want to state something as fact show me the data that proves the causal relationship you claim. Not some anecdotal "Someone posted about Bliss then Bliss got busted" but a rigorous analysis of public records of police action and the archives of this board and prove your claim. Until you do that, all you are doing is stating an opinion.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly; 1194028]Seminole John: Trying to get intellectual and develop correlations is for the logical mind. Comparing Brevard to Seminole and Orange county is laughable. There was a FS "mens Club" called the Boardroom across the street from the police station in Cocoa for 20 years. She even advertised with a billboard on I-95 south. She was eventually closed and replaced with an AMP. And there are still openly FS places in Brevard, are Brevard police stupid? Nope they are not. Police do not operate independently, Chiefs are appointed, Sheriffs are elected, either way they are at the.

Mercy of the dominant political party and the funding they provide, how many of you know that if you wanted to run for a seat on the Seminole County Commission it would cost you over $3000 just to apply in fees alone? Thats before you spent a dime on your campaign, and without the support of a party or if you are a Democrat-YOU don't have a prayer. Are you starting to get the picture?

It is strictly politics my friend, Brevard County has an Air Force Base, this area of Florida has Disney and Universal and Sea World. See if you can make the correlation, I will not explain it to the board, if you don't get it, so be it.

I have a question, if LE didn't get their info about "Ocean" and the FS that was going on there, then were in the hell did they get it from? They were around a month, and got raided, according to eye witness accounts, on this site. Personally I have never see as many posts blatantly saying what they got and from who as I've seen about "Ocean". And there is no direct correlation? Please-VS[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VerySlowly; 1194028]Seminole John: Trying to get intellectual and develop correlations is for the logical mind. Comparing Brevard to Seminole and Orange county is laughable. There was a FS "mens Club" called the Boardroom across the street from the police station in Cocoa for 20 years. She even advertised with a billboard on I-95 south. She was eventually closed and replaced with an AMP. And there are still openly FS places in Brevard, are Brevard police stupid? Nope they are not. Police do not operate independently, Chiefs are appointed, Sheriffs are elected, either way they are at the.

Mercy of the dominant political party and the funding they provide, how many of you know that if you wanted to run for a seat on the Seminole County Commission it would cost you over $3000 just to apply in fees alone? Thats before you spent a dime on your campaign, and without the support of a party or if you are a Democrat-YOU don't have a prayer. Are you starting to get the picture?

It is strictly politics my friend, Brevard County has an Air Force Base, this area of Florida has Disney and Universal and Sea World. See if you can make the correlation, I will not explain it to the board, if you don't get it, so be it.

I have a question, if LE didn't get their info about "Ocean" and the FS that was going on there, then were in the hell did they get it from? They were around a month, and got raided, according to eye witness accounts, on this site. Personally I have never see as many posts blatantly saying what they got and from who as I've seen about "Ocean". And there is no direct correlation? Please-VS[/QUOTE]Different Cities, different Countys all have different "enforcement" policies and prorities. The city police Chiefs and County Sheriff's set the agenda for thier jurisdicition. They will team up, aka "MBI" when they want to get on TV to make the public feel good about all the money they are really wasting by going after AMP's or some other sexy catchy TV headline. Ocean was open only a month AFTER these explicit postings occured. Other AMP's were quickly raided after similar detailed postings that occured on this Board. While we don't actually know the details, come on people, don't you see a pattern here?

Seminole County has not and will never elect a Democrat even for Dog Catcher, those tight-ass Republicans there would vote for Rush Limbaugh instead of FDR if he was alive.

Look out, we're all screwed when Grady Judd runs for Governor in 2014. Ooooh Nooooo!

[QUOTE=VerySlowly;1194028]I have a question, if LE didn't get their info about "Ocean" and the FS that was going on there, then were in the hell did they get it from? They were around a month, and got raided, according to eye witness accounts, on this site. Personally I have never see as many posts blatantly saying what they got and from who as I've seen about "Ocean". And there is no direct correlation? Please-VS[/QUOTE]They might have received compalints from neighboring businesses or from a religious nut in the area. Or maybe they did not bribe or offer free service to the right people. Or a local MP operator with better poltical connections decided to drive these out of towners away. Like you said, its all politics and a lot of stuff happens behind the scenes which the public does not see.

[QUOTE=Fellow Guy; 1194100]I hope this discussion is nearing its end. This is what I've learned: 1) Ocean Spa is now closed (along with Total Relaxation) and 2) this is a bulletin board where we are supposed to talk about sex in the USA. A hundred more posts implying blame or defending people won't change either of the 2 facts.

My goal is to find a place and write a new review today.

Fg[/QUOTE]Lets do this brother!

OK fine lets not bring Brevard into the discussion. There are are places in Orange and Seminole that have been reviewed and are still in operation. I think we can all agree that nothing posted on this board will be evidence in court. So at worst all this site can do is make them aware of providers. Are you guys seriously suggest LEO is unaware of these other places? As soon as a AMP or provider post an ad the cops know who they are. The cops will only act on that if there are complaints beacuse they know its a joke to. The cops don't really want to wast time on this because they know in all likelyhood any girl they bust will be bailed out before they are done with their paperwork. Does LEO get info off this board. Probably. Does anything posted here lead directly to police action, probably not.

[QUOTE=Steve Pope; 1194128]Different Cities, different Countys all have different "enforcement" policies and prorities. The city police Chiefs and County Sheriff's set the agenda for thier jurisdicition. They will team up, aka "MBI" when they want to get on TV to make the public feel good about all the money they are really wasting by going after AMP's or some other sexy catchy TV headline. Ocean was open only a month AFTER these explicit postings occured. Other AMP's were quickly raided after similar detailed postings that occured on this Board. While we don't actually know the details, come on people, don't you see a pattern here?

Seminole County has not and will never elect a Democrat even for Dog Catcher, those tight-ass Republicans there would vote for Rush Limbaugh instead of FDR if he was alive.

Look out, we're all screwed when Grady Judd runs for Governor in 2014. Ooooh Nooooo! [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Seminole John;1194123]I think Fellow Guy is correct, lets move on. But there is one thing I won't let go. VS I think your tendancy to get personal is counter productive for this forum. You insinuate that because I have a different opinion that you I must be less intelligent. Thats pompous and arrogant, which are hardly signs of an enlightened mind. You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mind. If you want to state something as fact show me the data that proves the causal relationship you claim. Not some anecdotal "Someone posted about Bliss then Bliss got busted" but a rigorous analysis of public records of police action and the archives of this board and prove your claim. Until you do that, all you are doing is stating an opinion.[/QUOTE]Next you'll want me to prove there is a GOD. Everything most people "ABSOLUTELY KNOW" is based on "Belief". You didn't answer my question brother where did they get sufficient information with which to proceed, to mount the operation, these "Raids" are planned and executed and are never done on the spur of the moment unless there is immediate danger and of course MP's don't fall into that category. And of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion and everything I say is my opinion but I can't help thinking when I add 2+2 together I keep getting 4. And I will say no more on the subject because it is like asking someone to change their religion, I say believe whatever works for you but always remember be it politician or priest they want you to believe what works for THEM-VS

I am sure this is not the only website leo uses for information. There are others out there that they can get the information they want. So can we please stop this witch hunt and get back to business.

There certainly is some truth to this statement.

[QUOTE=Cbs200;1194134]They might have received compalints from neighboring businesses or from a religious nut in the area. Or maybe they did not bribe or offer free service to the right people. Or a local MP operator with better poltical connections decided to drive these out of towners away. Like you said, its all politics and a lot of stuff happens behind the scenes which the public does not see.[/QUOTE]

So your saying its closed?

Ok I guessing you're not a mathematician. While proving a negative such as there is no God or unicorns don't exist is impossible an affirmative proof such as post on this board lead to bust is pretty straight forward, just takes a little work. Data from any busts are public record and is available on clerk of courts website. This forum I believe has a good archive of old post. Yellow pages, backpage, and craigs list would be sources data on the population data. Doing an analysis to establish if a causal relationship exist while tedius is not conceptually difficult.

Could it be that I know something that great all knowing VS does not? Hmmmm. However could that be?

[QUOTE=VerySlowly;1194190]Next you'll want me to prove there is a GOD. Everything most people "ABSOLUTELY KNOW" is based on "Belief". You didn't answer my question brother where did they get sufficient information with which to proceed, to mount the operation, these "Raids" are planned and executed and are never done on the spur of the moment unless there is immediate danger and of course MP's don't fall into that category. And of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion and everything I say is my opinion but I can't help thinking when I add 2+2 together I keep getting 4. And I will say no more on the subject because it is like asking someone to change their religion, I say believe whatever works for you but always remember be it politician or priest they want you to believe what works for THEM-VS[/QUOTE]

Alright the last comment in my previous report was uncalled for. In any case going back to my first post on this matter my point was we don't know and that correlation is not the same as causation (i. E. My rooster crows every morning before sunrise. 100% correlation. Does that mean my rooster crowing causes the sun to come up?)

VS you have been a valuable member of this board for a long time and provided invalluable information to many people including me. That being said I think the condesending manner in which you address opinions that differ from yours is uncalled and does not advance the purpose of having the forum.

We can disagree without being disagreeable.

[QUOTE=Seminole John; 1194292]VS you have been a valuable member of this board for a long time and provided invalluable information to many people including me. That being said I think the condesending manner in which you address opinions that differ from yours is uncalled and soes not advance the purpose of having the forum.

We can disagree without being disagreeable.[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with having an opinion. Its the insults and condescending manner we can do without. Hopefully someone is paying attention.

Great place. Very well cared for and satisfied.

8204 Crystal Clear Lane.

Norm

One night in Orlando, this coming Tuesday. I would LOVE to spend it with a Brazilian hottie. (That's my favorite flavor.)

Recommendations? Private Message best way to reach me. Thanks.

Norm

[QUOTE=Seminole John; 1194292]Alright the last comment in my previous report was uncalled for. In any case going back to my first post on this matter my point was we don't know and that correlation is not the same as causation (I. E. My rooster crows every morning before sunrise. 100% correlation. Does that mean my rooster crowing causes the sun to come up?)

VS you have been a valuable member of this board for a long time and provided invalluable information to many people including me. That being said I think the condesending manner in which you address opinions that differ from yours is uncalled and does not advance the purpose of having the forum.

We can disagree without being disagreeable. [/QUOTE]We don't all have to agree on everything but, we are all here for the same thing. It would make it easier for all of us if we didn't attack each other when we don't agree with an opinion. Share your opinion and keep your response to the facts. Attacking people will accomplish only one thing, to make the attacker seem silly.

[QUOTE=Bez191; 1193985]Gentlemen's:

About a week ago I stopped by Oriental, believing that perhaps things had changed since OS opened. While I was there, I asked for price info pretending to be someone that has never been there before. When I asked about TS the girl reply with something a bit crazy like this 'We give good clean massage, go next door'. I must confess that I never asked for any extended menu nor did I get a massage. I just asked if they had TS, Sauna or steam room, etc.

I think other massage places dropped the dime on OS for taking there business. I am aware the the old man that works at Lotus Blossom down the street were there to check out OS.

1 more reason to avoid Oriental Massage, across from the now closed Ocean Spa. The girls at Oriental Massage are Chinese. The girls at Ocean Spa are Vietnamese. China and Vietnam have had a 1, 000 year history of hatred towards each other.

The Chinese girls probably did not like the competition. Either way, the service at Oriental Massage is not worth any sort of visit.

Be safe.

I agree with the following statement. It is the haters from Oriental Massage that caused the unneeded drama, not our brothers on the message board. We have not changed the way responded over the numerous years. At least, I have not. 5+ year member here.

Oriental Massage sucks, poor service and lack of interest in patients. Keep in mind, other massage parlors review this site as well. Their jealousy sets in and they will call the po-po on others if they feel business is slow. Ca you say hatred for others success. The Asian way among fellow countrymen.

Don't fear. There are other parlors around town for special excitement. Stay tuned.

[QUOTE=Gentleman 100; 1194638]1 more reason to avoid Oriental Massage, across from the now closed Ocean Spa. The girls at Oriental Massage are Chinese. The girls at Ocean Spa are Vietnamese. China and Vietnam have had a 1, 000 year history of hatred towards each other.

The Chinese girls probably did not like the competition. Either way, the service at Oriental Massage is not worth any sort of visit.

Be safe.[/QUOTE]

Please share in PM if you know of any close to Downtown or S Orlando.

[QUOTE=Normal Guy; 1194352]One night in Orlando, this coming Tuesday. I would LOVE to spend it with a Brazilian hottie. (That's my favorite flavor.)

Recommendations? Private Message best way to reach me. Thanks.

Norm[/QUOTE]