Escort Reports

[QUOTE=Gorillla]Stick to what you know for a while. Time to hybernate boys. It's just a matter of time before the stings kick in full gear. Ladies if you got a stash it's time to slow down on the new customers. Places like these where you can go back and reread posts in the archives would be best for new clients. And check referances please![/QUOTE]

I agree. It's time for hobbyists to stick with only their most trusted providers, and vice versa.

I know providers would like to expand their client base but please, as someone said recently, "[i]check, check, and recheck[/i]".

That's what makes this board so important. When someone like [b]SL[/b] TOFTT, it either tells us the provider is good or bad, or at least establishes whether she is legit or not.

I read the CA report this morning and guessed that it was Sabrina. But this didn't have to happen. If they would learn not to discuss $ until they verified their client was not LE. If they would learn not to exchange $ until after the fact. If they would learn to ask for references. One of our finest providers was involved in the Covington sting but was not charged for prostitution because she would not discuss specific sex acts before she confirmed the client was not LE. Wise up ladies.

Take Care,
Nucks

Part of their problem was they advertised all over the place repeatedly and drew too much attention to themselves. The longer they went undetected the bolder and more aggressive they got with their ads.

If you looked at CL, the Flyer, Backpage, and other sites, they were everywhere all of the time.

Personally, I wondered how long it would take for them to get busted, it was just a matter of time.

Ladies, be cool, dial your ads back to avoid the obvious consequences until things cool down.

[QUOTE=Clubking01]I agree. It's time for hobbyists to stick with only their most trusted providers, and vice versa.

I know providers would like to expand their client base but please, as someone said recently, "[i]check, check, and recheck[/i]".

That's what makes this board so important. When someone like [b]SL[/b] TOFTT, it either tells us the provider is good or bad, or at least establishes whether she is legit or not.[/QUOTE]

Well I can assure you all it will be awhile before I TOFTT again after all this. I always am beyond careful before I see a provider for the first time. I never mention $ first, never give out any more information than is totally necessary, and always do a serious drive around before I show up. If I set up an appt, I always arrive 20 minutes early and cruise all nearby areas, parking lots, etc. If my gut tells me to get the hell out, then I do. If the provider doesn't mention $ first, then I move right along. Guys, I'm telling u this is going to get worse before it gets better. Stick with who you know for a while until the heat dies down. Any new faces to the area are going to have a rough time making a living with all this LE activity.

As for Sabrina, I did call there once a few weeks ago, but frankly she was a bit rude on the phone and that was a far as I took it. I'm glad she acted that way now, but at the time it pissed me off a bit. There are too many solid providers in this area that we can support and that's where we need to stick for a while. Anyone have any idea which 2 of her girls got busted? I'm sure the board will be eternally grateful to anyone who can dig up that little tidbit.

Stay safe gentlemen,

SL

As for Sabrina, I did call there once a few weeks ago, but frankly she was a bit rude on the phone and that was a far as I took it.


This is why I never saw her. She's had some positive feed back, but she was pretty rude the few times I've spoken with her.

Yes, so true. They did so many things wrong on so many levels. With all the LE activity, I can't fathom why they were being so careless.




[QUOTE=Nucks]I read the CA report this morning and guessed that it was Sabrina. But this didn't have to happen. If they would learn not to discuss $ until they verified their client was not LE. If they would learn not to exchange $ until after the fact. If they would learn to ask for references. One of our finest providers was involved in the Covington sting but was not charged for prostitution because she would not discuss specific sex acts before she confirmed the client was not LE. Wise up ladies.

Take Care,
Nucks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Clubking01]They seized...most importantly, appointment books and [i][u]customer lists[/i][/u]. LEO was supposedly drawn to the arrests through CL ads. [/QUOTE]What happens if your name and number are in her customer list? Can LEO come get you?

[QUOTE=Tumbling Dice8]I think it is safe to say that you should avoid anyone that worked with Sabrina, since they clearly talked and essentially led them to the house.
Also, just genius for them to keep all of their customer info right there on the computer. This is why I tend not to trust agencies. They may say they delete/don't save customer info but, based on this and raids in other cities, I think it is safe to say that most do.[/QUOTE]


If they delete the information from the computer, their is software that can read deleted data. And I'm 100% that LE has this software.

I always use a prepaid phone( use cash only to replentish minutes) and bogus email accounts with bogus personal information.

Stay Safe

[QUOTE=Tumbling Dice8]I think it is safe to say that you should avoid anyone that worked with Sabrina, since they clearly talked and essentially led them to the house.
Also, just genius for them to keep all of their customer info right there on the computer. This is why I tend not to trust agencies. They may say they delete/don't save customer info but, based on this and raids in other cities, I think it is safe to say that most do.[/QUOTE]

All the LE had to do was set up an appointment. Doesn't mean all the girls at the house talked and "led" them there. It would be the same if you or I were to set up an appointment with her or one of her girls. Craigslist just makes it easier for the cops, plus they knew there was 6-8 girls there working. Pretty easy to get that many girls at once rather than to actually work the streets picking them up. I saw this sting a mile away and months ago but it just took longer than I figured.

Madison is one of my trusted and close friends but I make damn sure she gets naked or at least topless before we ever discuss anything. I do trust her but the tempation to get charges dropped or to make a quick buck is too great. Normally we go ahead and do the deeds before any payment is discussed. You just have got to build up a relationship with these girls if you want to continue seeing them on a regular basis. I know Jon and Catdaddy does the same and I'm sure there's many more that are far better at it then me.

I will say Madison told me a while back to stay away from Sabrina and her crew. She knows a little more than she's letting on about what goes on there and it was just something that I didn't want to get messed up in. I do bet that she is smiling at this latest bust though.

I don't think I have to be extra paranoid right now or anything, because I think this whole Sabrina episode will have no effect on doing business as usual. This all started I heard from the neighbors complaining about all the constant traffic going back and forth from the house and after all the complaints the county police started thier investigations. Sabrina and her pimp did just about everything wrong they could do and it is a wonder they didn't get busted before now. But that might be their method of doing business; just set up shop somewhere, get as much money as possible, get busted and pay thier fines and then move on to the next place to set up business.

Yeah, there is software to wipe the hard drive so it can't be recovered, but I wouldn't expect Sabrina's to have taken those measures. they don't sound like they were the most careful bunch with their clientale.




[QUOTE=Tnbootyseeker]If they delete the information from the computer, their is software that can read deleted data. And I'm 100% that LE has this software.

I always use a prepaid phone( use cash only to replentish minutes) and bogus email accounts with bogus personal information.

Stay Safe[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob Krane]Yeah, there is software to wipe the hard drive so it can't be recovered, but I wouldn't expect Sabrina's to have taken those measures. they don't sound like they were the most careful bunch with their clientale.[/QUOTE]Even with that software it's still not gone. You spend some big money on recovery software and you can find anything. There's no such thing as deleted on any computer.

Format C: need I say more?

[QUOTE=Blues City Ref]Even with that software it's still not gone. You spend some big money on recovery software and you can find anything. There's no such thing as deleted on any computer.[/QUOTE]

Seems the girls didn't have to role over on Sabrina because she was right there. She drove them to the appointment! Further more she gave up the house. She must have known about the coke and that's another felony. I'm betting at least one of the girls had a previous address from out of state. That's transporting accross state line for prostition another felony.

And Madison was right. Sabrina had a bank charge and did about six years. Bank robbery with a gun should have been about a 20 year sit down. So she might have a probation problem.

Here is what I want to know. Is this dude in the paper the personal trainer that Madison and Sabrina went to spitting and scratching about.

Somebody wake up Madison! I want to hear her views.

To finish up here, Sabrina has a lot of problems and I don't think we'll be seeing her again.

[QUOTE=Tim Allen]All the LE had to do was set up an appointment. Doesn't mean all the girls at the house talked and "led" them there. It would be the same if you or I were to set up an appointment with her or one of her girls. Craigslist just makes it easier for the cops, plus they knew there was 6-8 girls there working. Pretty easy to get that many girls at once rather than to actually work the streets picking them up. I saw this sting a mile away and months ago but it just took longer than I figured.

Madison is one of my trusted and close friends but I make damn sure she gets naked or at least topless before we ever discuss anything. I do trust her but the tempation to get charges dropped or to make a quick buck is too great. Normally we go ahead and do the deeds before any payment is discussed. You just have got to build up a relationship with these girls if you want to continue seeing them on a regular basis. I know Jon and Catdaddy does the same and I'm sure there's many more that are far better at it then me.

I will say Madison told me a while back to stay away from Sabrina and her crew. She knows a little more than she's letting on about what goes on there and it was just something that I didn't want to get messed up in. I do bet that she is smiling at this latest bust though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blues City Ref]Even with that software it's still not gone. You spend some big money on recovery software and you can find anything. There's no such thing as deleted on any computer.[/QUOTE]
You can get retail software that 'wipes' (overwrites seven times) vacant 'real estate,' aka deleted files, with not much difficulty--to US Dept. of Defense standards (unrecoverable). It will take a bit of time depending on how much has to be wiped.