[QUOTE=Matar090;5881008]Do the links to profiles work for anyone? They've NEVER worked for me. I can't imagine that they're deactivating that much are they?[/QUOTE]They work for me.
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[QUOTE=Matar090;5881008]Do the links to profiles work for anyone? They've NEVER worked for me. I can't imagine that they're deactivating that much are they?[/QUOTE]They work for me.
[QUOTE=CPMachine;5881303]If you redo or duplicate a profile using same device and / or connection as original alot of times they block alot of features on it which would include being able to open these links.[/QUOTE]Man. That's really weird. Don't do any of that. Are you guys verified? Maybe I'm missing a step that makes me not be able to see profiles.
Hi All.
Been trying out the SD website to see if I could find someone to connect with, semi-regularly and avoid some of the ugly realities of our hobby.
However I am continually shocked with the requests made by the potential connections. When did 500 for an hr ppm become the standard? Was there an announcement I missed. I understand that inflation is hitting everyone, but wow (and not a good wow)!
Now I know what you are thinking, and yes I am not a good looking young stud. So compensation may be higher. But yes I am older (still under 65) - don't think I look it, and while I am not a Cary Grant, I would like to think I don't turn women off due to my looks. So even with these factors in mind, it seems that the amounts in question are being driven by other things. Or is it just me?
I would welcome insights. Are you finding the same thing? Have things gotten out of hand in your opinion as well?
I don't mind helping out, but last I checked, I have not seen equal increases in my income sources.
Thoughts?
Stay Safe!
AHT169.
[QUOTE=aht169;5884639]Hi All.
Been trying out the SD website to see if I could find someone to connect with, semi-regularly and avoid some of the ugly realities of our hobby.
However I am continually shocked with the requests made by the potential connections. When did 500 for an hr ppm become the standard? Was there an announcement I missed. I understand that inflation is hitting everyone, but wow (and not a good wow)!
Now I know what you are thinking, and yes I am not a good looking young stud. So compensation may be higher. But yes I am older (still under 65) - don't think I look it, and while I am not a Cary Grant, I would like to think I don't turn women off due to my looks. So even with these factors in mind, it seems that the amounts in question are being driven by other things. Or is it just me?
I would welcome insights. Are you finding the same thing? Have things gotten out of hand in your opinion as well?
I don't mind helping out, but last I checked, I have not seen equal increases in my income sources.
Thoughts?
Stay Safe!
AHT169.[/QUOTE]Welcome! I started this Thread when I was confused and lost as well. (Back then, it was just a 'User Blog')
500/ ppm might not be the norm, yet, it's not that far off. I would say there are multiple reasons, besides the obvious.
Above average looking girls on the site get around 100+ massages daily. Besides OF, they can now sell their pics on SC and get paid. They now can attend lunch / dinner / coffee and get paid. Thirsty guys will buy them stuff from their "Wish List" via Amazon. They can buy their "Awards" when they are playing "video games" 1/2 naked, so that she is now a "gamer. " (Those 'Awards," BTW, are just money after the website / platform gets a cut.) 100% of them are banging some boyfriend and you are just 1 of the dudes that she is making extra income with. Also, timing might be off. They might not need the money at the early of the month, or their student loans are not due for another 6 weeks, etc etc.
So, once you get used to these, I believe it's just time investment and filtering with experience.
Also, from experience, summer is just such a bad time. I believe it's because all the college girls are gone home or busy working. With all the colleges in town are back In - Person classes for the Fall, I am sure things will be better this coming Fall.
Hope that helps :)
[QUOTE=aht169;5884639]Hi All.
Been trying out the SD website to see if I could find someone to connect with, semi-regularly and avoid some of the ugly realities of our hobby.
However I am continually shocked with the requests made by the potential connections. When did 500 for an hr ppm become the standard? Was there an announcement I missed. I understand that inflation is hitting everyone, but wow (and not a good wow)!
Now I know what you are thinking, and yes I am not a good looking young stud. So compensation may be higher. But yes I am older (still under 65) - don't think I look it, and while I am not a Cary Grant, I would like to think I don't turn women off due to my looks. So even with these factors in mind, it seems that the amounts in question are being driven by other things. Or is it just me?
I would welcome insights. Are you finding the same thing? Have things gotten out of hand in your opinion as well?
I don't mind helping out, but last I checked, I have not seen equal increases in my income sources.
Thoughts?
Stay Safe!
AHT169.[/QUOTE]Negotiate! I have 2 girls I see regularly throughout the month for $250. The few new girls I need in the last few months were $350. Girls seem to be more opt to go for less if you are up front about being consistent and seeing them more than once. But yes plenty of girls out there asking for $500 + for PPM.
Negotiate. Keep searching. You can still find really sweet good looking early 20's still willing to go $250 to $350. Or at least that's my experience!
[QUOTE=CPMachine;5885083]Negotiate! I have 2 girls I see regularly throughout the month for $250. The few new girls I need in the last few months were $350. Girls seem to be more opt to go for less if you are up front about being consistent and seeing them more than once. But yes plenty of girls out there asking for $500 + for PPM.
Negotiate. Keep searching. You can still find really sweet good looking early 20's still willing to go $250 to $350. Or at least that's my experience![/QUOTE]Well good to hear that someone is able to get reasonable rates! I appreciate your recommendations. Based on the 2 responses below, probably need to change me tactics. I agree there still seems to be a lot asking for 500/ ppm but maybe new ones are more open to other amounts. Hoping it is not just me, and my age and looks. LOL HA!! (Too bad I did not have the resources when I was in my 30's and 40's LOL).
In any case, definitely something to consider. Thanks again!
Stay Safe.
AHT169.
I don't use reddit much but I was browsing the Sugar baby section. Its weird both male and females are commenting in harmony, and it seems like no one uses SA. I use to use sa 4 years ago and had 2 arrangements before morning to California. AMPs are so much better out here so I really have not tried sa in SD. I'm asking because I'm not sure if I want to invest in another SA membership. Does the SA's competing websites compare?
[QUOTE=CPMachine;5885083]Negotiate! I have 2 girls I see regularly throughout the month for $250. The few new girls I need in the last few months were $350. Girls seem to be more opt to go for less if you are up front about being consistent and seeing them more than once. But yes plenty of girls out there asking for $500 + for PPM.
Negotiate. Keep searching. You can still find really sweet good looking early 20's still willing to go $250 to $350. Or at least that's my experience![/QUOTE]I haven't posted my refrain much lately, but if you are negotiating online, you are missing out. Do it at the meet and greet. People hate to be rejected to their face. If you ask her how much she wants after meeting and having a nice chat and a drink / coffee w / her, I am betting it will be less than what she said online. Everyone knows that the internet makes everyone brave. If a girl has invested the time in meeting you, and you're as good or better than she thought from your online profile, there is definite room for a reasonable rate.
That being said, it also depends on the ethnicity and other factors. I have had some 40's MILFs expect crazy amounts. When in fact they ought to be reasonable to get laid by someone clean and decent. I will really only see pretty caucasian and latin girls, and 300 sometimes isn't enough to keep them happy in the long run. You might get one or two FCs, though. I think that 400 is a number that should keep most happy. There are guys here like the legendary Hollywood Guy who are very knowledgeable and say that for 500 you can get any woman on the site. I would say you would also have to have some game. And of course the devil is in the details. What specifically is the plan, how long will you spend together? I don't think that negotiating a menu is the right way to think about women on the site. If they head that way, or get into clock watching, you are really getting the SB experience. You can talk about things you like and don't, her too, but I would just always assume that the sex w / a SB is GFE. If not, you just have an UTR escort.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5885688]I haven't posted my refrain much lately, but if you are negotiating online, you are missing out. Do it at the meet and greet. People hate to be rejected to their face. If you ask her how much she wants after meeting and having a nice chat and a drink / coffee w / her, I am betting it will be less than what she said online. Everyone knows that the internet makes everyone brave. If a girl has invested the time in meeting you, and you're as good or better than she thought from your online profile, there is definite room for a reasonable rate.
That being said, it also depends on the ethnicity and other factors. I have had some 40's MILFs expect crazy amounts. When in fact they ought to be reasonable to get laid by someone clean and decent. I will really only see pretty caucasian and latin girls, and 300 sometimes isn't enough to keep them happy in the long run. You might get one or two FCs, though. I think that 400 is a number that should keep most happy. There are guys here like the legendary Hollywood Guy who are very knowledgeable and say that for 500 you can get any woman on the site. I would say you would also have to have some game. And of course the devil is in the details. What specifically is the plan, how long will you spend together? I don't think that negotiating a menu is the right way to think about women on the site. If they head that way, or get into clock watching, you are really getting the SB experience. You can talk about things you like and don't, her too, but I would just always assume that the sex w / a SB is GFE. If not, you just have an UTR escort.[/QUOTE]I know we seem to go back and forth on this, but seriously guys: If you're paying for pussy (and you are, whether you want to believe it or not) then you can't do that AND be a Don Juan at the same time. Stop pretending your "game" is getting the girls. It's the cash. Can you make them like you more with some "game?" Sure. But without the cash your game means exactly shit. If it did, you wouldn't need the cash.
Do you just follow me around looking for chances to say the opposite of what I do? [blue][Deleted by Admin]
I just did what you should have, he is now on your ignore list, you won't see another one of his posts, who gives a fuck what he says?
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[QUOTE=CPMachine;5879789]Another Glass Deck porn girl.
I sent her a message but she hasn't read yet.
Anyone have any luck?
[URL]https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph621d5c93de83f[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/577155e4-e701-418c-af91-e45801876822[/URL][/QUOTE]I've met her but for work! Very cool, leaving town soon though.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5886151]I know we seem to go back and forth on this, but seriously guys: If you're paying for pussy (and you are, whether you want to believe it or not) then you can't do that AND be a Don Juan at the same time. Stop pretending your "game" is getting the girls. It's the cash. Can you make them like you more with some "game?" Sure. But without the cash your game means exactly shit. If it did, you wouldn't need the cash.[/QUOTE]You speak the truth. It is good to remind ourselves of this fact. The game is to extract as much from us as possible. It is up to us to negotiate and be ready to walk away if the amounts are too high (for our own situation).
These girls would have nothing to do with us if not for the money, and while they *might* like us a bit more, the reality it will very very rarely be a friendship. Its all about "Show me the Money!
Thanks for the dose of reality!
AHT169.
[QUOTE=CPMachine;5601027]I been texting with her and we had to reschedule few times. But like PP said she's been on since 2015 so if she's not lying about her age she has been doing this since 18. Enough said there. Though she does seem like a nice girl via messaging.[/QUOTE]So did you ever get to meet her?
[QUOTE=Poksman;5904494]So did you ever get to meet her?[/QUOTE]I got on potential SB. She wants 2 for meeting and 4 for GFE. Seems high to me.
I just came back from a date. She actually paid for our drinks. Had 4 cocktails at Pendry before dinner! That was a shocker. Never happened before! Convo was good and the dinner seem to fly by!. She's a fit and slim blue eyed blond babysitter and college student. Good family from La Jolla (lawyer dad and c-suite mom). She's in SA for a relationship not a SD apparently because her best friend bf met at SA. No tattoos.
Went back to my hotel. Did the deed. BBCIP. She gave me the story how she never does this ever, especially on a first date. I almost believed her. LOL. She tried for a second round. Phenomenal BBBJ. Valiant effort but I'm pushing 50 and cycle time is not the same.
She said she's not on SA anymore. So my technique of getting them out of the SA platform and into IG or Snapchat DM ASAP is still optimal for me. I've been on her IG and snap for a few months before we actually met. Will see her again next weekend. No funds exchanged except for me paying for dinner.