"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Magic Rat; 1258250] (edit delete) (I)t seems most of us follow the "less said about the sugar the better" approach. Interestingly enough, the last two sbs I've met have brought the sugar amount up front and center. (edit delete)

I prefer to slip it into a pocket or purse at the end of the event as others have suggested. (edit delete) [/QUOTE]Women are full of guilt over one thing or another. Fucking for money is a head thing. They begin fucking for money in denial by telling themselves something else is really going on. At some point they cross the line from denial and start carrying guilt over really fucking for money along with all the other crap going on in their heads. Such a girl is more likely to price her pussy up front but that is no sign she is comfortable with any of it. She is not. The less said by us is still the better. We can all say things about ourselves we don't want others saying about us.

The head thing is with us also. We can fuck a woman and at the same time disrespect her for fucking us.

I've read this forum from cover to cover and have to say that you guys in Richmond have quite a gem on your hands. Long time lurker and long time SD here and I find a new trick or tip every time I check in. I'm practicing our craft a little north of most of you, after having a sb of 18 months in my last city down south. I'm always amazed at the variety of opportunity that we're presented.

I set up my first meet and greet date last week. We met for dinner and she was chunkier than I usually like, but she was eager to vist me later in the notel I had reserved. Since this was the first meet I've set up since moving, any strange was welcome after three months out of the game. Girl was a pleaser and ready to take input anywhere. Fun, but like they say, a little like riding a moped. You don't want your friends to see it. Slipped her $ to help with gas as we left and she texted me the next day, so I think I'll hold her in reserve if I ever get into a pinch.

I was working a new lead for this past weekend, but ended up getting an unfortunate head cold, so strenuous activity was out of the question. She appears to be a very attractive 30-ish MILF. Looking forward to getting a meet and greet set up with her as soon as I've recovered a bit.

Hope you guys don't mind an out of towner like me posting on your thread, but I thought you might appreciate these kind of reports more than our brethren in my home area.

Stay safe out there.

JDX,

Not to worry. All are welcome here as I am from a little further South of Richmond myself. I'm with you on the sb that shows up being a little chunkier than her pics as that has happened to me a couple times lately. Obviously you have read the reports here. Take advantage of the wisdom of some of the practioneers here. They definitely know what they are doing. I try to follow their advice, but the sb pool is fairly shallow where I live, although I have enjoyed a few successes. Again, welcome to the thread and keep those reports coming.

It's been almost a month, here's the latest.

TB #2. Gone, gave some lame excuse. Just too flaky, I never got to taste the goodies.

TB #3. Still no luck yet, she had BF drama the night we were supposed to meet. I have some great photos, but have not tasted the goodies yet.

TB #4. Done.

TB #5. All Star! . Flew in, looked way better than pictures, banging body (especially if you like big butts!) The sex was off the charts. If she were closer, it would be in so much trouble. I tried to do as advised and give her a little sugar to go. But once she paid for the lunch on Saturday, I knew it would not go over well. She stated that since I paid for everything else, it's the least she could do. (I'm sitting there stunned). So she's more of a MILF / SB. I can't wait to get at it again. Even the cost of the hotel and flight $$$$ was worth the over 20 hours of time together. It was pretty much, whatever I could get in, during that time, so it was on when we were together.

TB#6. Have not heard from her. No time to follow up with her now. (I still have the Airline gift cards ready for use)

TB#7. Linked up with her for Dinner and Hotel date. Very nice, great body and great attitude. The sexy was very good, will get better each time I'm sure. She communicates daily and we are trying to link up again next week. Not sure if it's going to work. TB#9 has been taking up a lot of my time.

TB#8. She went out of town and didn't get in lots of contact when she came back. She's juggling a number of SDs. Not a high priority anymore.

TB#9. 32 Year old, beautiful African-American. Great Body, great attitude. She's more of the affair type as opposed to straight SD / SB. Works for me, nobody has asked for exclusivity. She's by far the one I've spent the most time with and enjoy the most. Mainly pay for gas, and a I've thrown in a little extra. Have yet to have any amount over $. So far. 4 Hotel dates (including 2 over-nighters) , multiple pops and 2 non-hotel dates. (One of the non hotel dates ended in HJ, so even that was surprisingly successful!)

So currently,

TB#9 is the main squeeze. Averaging once a week.

TB#7 is my main pay to play. Averaging once a month. Sugar was not negotiated, but the $, seems to be suffice.

TB#5 is my top choice, will probably see once a quarter.

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Still have my normal two MILFs that I see once a month or every other month.

BigTigg.

[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1243139]TB2 has been flaky and cannot seem to make the times work. Had a date setup for Saturday, first hotel date. She cancelled the day of. Just think, I had just moved her to the #1 position. I never got to taste the goodies. Bummer!

TB3 had another meet and greet with her. We are on to have a ride on the wild side this weekend. She seems to be the most dependable.

TB4, she was backup to TB2, she also fizzed out. This was a typical low-rent move on her part. Sent 1/2 of sugar for gas and sitter. She never showed. Offered some lame excuses via email. (car. Accident. Cell phone. Yada yada). When will they learn, you can get away with the little, but you lose out on the bigger paydays. This is twice now I've paid some upfront, both times were a waste. That practice is over.

TB5 has purchased her roundtrip ticket for August. So that weekend seems to be ready to roll.

TB6 (I listed wrong as TB7) had some drama in her life, still wants to cum, but cannot seem to get her act together to coordinate getting the plane ticket. So I'm moving on from her. Very disappointed in this one. She was a nice HYB.

TB7 Young 25 year old African American. Great thick body, shorty, with nice assets all around. She's scheduled to get the Tigger Bounce in the TiggerChamber in a couple of weeks. We have the date time and location picked out. She's not specific with the sugar she wants, so I'll be able to provide assistance accordingly.

TB8 Smoking hot HYB. 25 year old African American. Will have first meet-and-greet this week. Sugar has only been discussed vaguely, will update you after the meet-and-greet.

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So lost 3, but gained 2 more. Lost some upfront money and wasted a hotel night. Best TiggerBounce opportunity should cum this weekend with TB3. I don't think I confirmed, so will need to work on that.

BigTigg[/QUOTE]

OK, I'm working on a HYB for the Tigger Harem. .

22. Young Latina.

Pictures are smoking! So far she seems to be game with the way I like to do things (more covering expenses with a little extra in the gas money). She has good conversation and it's not as hard as I thought it would be to talk with a 22 year old. After the storm passes through, we are planning on scheduling our first date. No sugar was discussed, but she seems like she's going to be reasonable. However, I'm not quite as willing as Scott to avoid sex talk altogether. I do approach it from the perspective of asking one or two "do you like.", then change the topic back to other small talk as to not overwhelm them with the topic.

So far so good.

I think she's TB#10 and she's definitely the Latina Fantasy I've had for some years now. I wasn't expecting 22, but in order to fulfull my SD club obligation, I'm going to give it a try. I do have a 25 year in the stable already, so I guess that counts too. But this looks like it's going to be good and much more in line with what I think of for a HYB. I'll update you all after the first date, I hope to be tasting the goodies the first date in this case.

BigTigg

Sugar Baby Significant Other (SBSO) A new acronym

My HYB continues to love me and provide A. 1 service but since she relocated farther away from my area she is no longer readily available when I can get free, so my FF (fucking frequency) has dropped from an average of 2-3 X / week with her to once every two weeks. I might need to think about starting a 2 or 3 hour appointment with her. After all, any contact with her is better than none and we get the important stuff done in that first hour anyway. We haven't talked about it but I don't think she wants to think of herself as an hourly type of girl.

Gap filling.because of those bodily needs I have filled in with a couple of my escort friends who are outstanding and a new girl Sugar Baby who some of you know. Sugar is nice but I am spoiled since I get serious GFE, totally uncovered CIV, all night snuggling, and AM MISH / BJ for just a little more donation with my SB. The one hour stop and shop has it's plusses though since an all nighter depends on the warden being out of town. In one hour I can slide by after work or slip out after bedtime for some nookie.

Ashley Madison (AM).I recently started back after very limited success several years ago (one meet / one fail) and have 3 girls on the probable list. I like this site because money does not seem to be the prime motivation. Unhappy but financially stable married women are usually OK with finding a guy who will make them feel sexy and wanted and don't fall into that Nando class 1/3.

AM #1 is an upper 30's professional BBW MILF who is ready to go to the FC with me. The problem is.I don't like BBW s. I am tempted to try her out but I find fat very unappealing. Just my bias. But then again pussy is pussy and she seems motivated.

AM #2-very hot thin blonde MILF ready to meet soon. FC not mentioned nor is $ but the implication is encouraging.

AM #3.VERY hot college girl.my favorite type. Thin, fit, cute, and wants $. We are in the prelim stage where she seems to be interested in talking.

SugarDaddy- lots of good looking new talent there but I haven't started to troll for takers yet. Some of you may already be tapping that treasure trove. I don't want my SB seeing me on that board unless we totally break things off.

[QUOTE=Hernando;1267774]totally uncovered CIV[/QUOTE]Be careful or you might end up with 18 years of sugar.

Well, my 3 probables from my report on Ashley Madison are all busts.

AM #1 upper 30's is ready to go to the FC but I can't bring myself to do a fat girl. It's just not my thing

AM # 2 Hot MILF admitted to 50 but looks 40 and a hottie at that, met me at a bar and was not into me. Go figure? You can't account for bad taste.

AM #3 SUPER hot college girl (pictures presented anyway) went through an entire day of very explicit sex talk, on line orgasm, and later phone convo all with great promise of hooking up soon (as a Sugar Baby) totally evaporated the following day. The AM profile disappeared from their site, she didn't return emails or phone messages. Man! Am I seriously bummed! She seemed too good to be true-and was. I guess she was a fake the whole time just looking for a thrill probably using fake pictures. Her voice on the phone sounded very young and I guess she could have been a teen playing around. Her profile age was given as 22. I don't like rejection but I prefer being told so I can move on. (see AM # 2) I'm pretty sure this one was a fake and never destined to be a meet.

The lessons to learn here are :

1) what you see is not always real;

2) expect rejection from time to time

3) girls looking for Kwan, gelt, doremi, etc are usually more motivated to hook up with a less than ideal partner.

I. E. AM #2 might have gone for the FC with me if she was looking for a payday at the end of it all.

4) AM girls are not as desperate and can be more picky.

5) The Meet is risky for a married man. It is better to meet someone in the FC, so the girl must be motivated to do so. My ATF SB met me cold turkey in the Hotel room, so I know it is doable. It does make me wonder about her judgement but she is young although very bright.

Spitfire, you are exactly right re: the risks of bareback.

1) 18 years of sugar. All risk and no benefit. (see Arnold)

2) STDs

So far so good but it is not good to tempt fate. The problem I have is that covers make it hard if not impossible for me to orgasm, so I like to find partners who are reliable and monogamous, and on good birth control. The ones who are not I use covers with.

Speaking of STDs, many of you frequent girls who provide BBBJ CIM even though you would not have uncovered intercourse. I've got news for you.oral STDs are extremely common (check your state health department stats in their regular reports) , and HPV is responsible for oral cancers in men.

[QUOTE=Hernando;1269188]so I like to find partners who are reliable and monogamous, and on good birth control. The ones who are not I use covers with.[/QUOTE]How do you *know* who is reliable, monogamous and on birth control? I wouldn't put it past someone desperate for a source of income to say 'Yes, I'm on birth control' but really aren't on anything hoping to get knocked up by someone with enough income to support them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to give you a hard time. My first SB and I never used anything (her or me) in the entire time we were together, so I'm not one to talk. Just a discussion point to consider.

I met a cute 19yo on SDForme. Com that seemed so sweet and innocent. Great kisser and gave some of the best head you could imagine. She talked me into banging her bareback. Huge mistake! A month later she texted me that she was pregnant. The joke was on her as I had it clipped 10 years earlier. When I told her so she said she wasn't with anyone but me. I offered to give her my lawyers name and told her she should get one too.

Didn't hear from her again until I posted a pic and a warning about her on the local area forum of this board. I started receiving calls from her and her "handler". It lead to them trying to out me here before it ended. Just goes to show you t.

What looks to be an innocent kid is really just a grifter.

Be careful out there!

[QUOTE=Hernando; 1269178]Well, my 3 probables from my report on Ashley Madison are all busts.

4) AM girls are not as desperate and can be more picky.[/QUOTE]While I've not had these experiences on AM, I will say being a 2 to 3 year AM pro, it's much more more and much more money than any of the SD sites.

BigTigg

Ok, had a spontaneous meet and greet with my 22 year old Latina SB (TB#10). Wow, she is everything billed, plus a little more. Since it was spur of the moment, I didn't have the time I needed to taste the goodies, but after dinner and coffee and some very affectionate interactions, I was very happy with the date. She did make it clear, that given the time, I could have definitely tasted the goodies. It was also made clear to me, that next time will include a visit to the offsite TiggerChamber for my world famous TiggerBounce. .

Something tells me, this is going to be good.

Oh, price was (Dinner $45, Coffee $10, gift $60 [covers gas, etc]. Seeing how I set the bar rather low financially, she was really pleased with the amount of the gift. I try to have a low baseline, so that I can always do my minimum and when I give more, it's appreciated.

BigTigg.

[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1264764]OK, I'm working on a HYB for the Tigger Harem. .

22. Young Latina.

Pictures are smoking! So far she seems to be game with the way I like to do things (more covering expenses with a little extra in the gas money). She has good conversation and it's not as hard as I thought it would be to talk with a 22 year old. After the storm passes through, we are planning on scheduling our first date. No sugar was discussed, but she seems like she's going to be reasonable. However, I'm not quite as willing as Scott to avoid sex talk altogether. I do approach it from the perspective of asking one or two "do you like.", then change the topic back to other small talk as to not overwhelm them with the topic.

So far so good.

I think she's TB#10 and she's definitely the Latina Fantasy I've had for some years now. I wasn't expecting 22, but in order to fulfull my SD club obligation, I'm going to give it a try. I do have a 25 year in the stable already, so I guess that counts too. But this looks like it's going to be good and much more in line with what I think of for a HYB. I'll update you all after the first date, I hope to be tasting the goodies the first date in this case.

BigTigg[/QUOTE]

I meant to say, it's much more "work".

[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1269656]While I've not had these experiences on AM, I will say being a 2 to 3 year AM pro, it's much more more and much more money than any of the SD sites.

BigTigg[/QUOTE]

AM so far is again not panning out to be a good hunting ground. If I wanted to work hard at scoring I would go to Match dot com or some other random dating site. I thought this site was full of girls just wanting to play on the side. I have the age thing going against me but I am told I am attractive to the ladies (by a lot of ladies) so WTF? This MILF I saw the other night should have been thrilled to have me fill her pussy but maybe it's an ethnic thing. Once my credits run out there I'm bagging it for sure.

[QUOTE=Hernando;1270974]AM so far is again not panning out to be a good hunting ground. If I wanted to work hard at scoring I would go to Match dot com or some other random dating site. I thought this site was full of girls just wanting to play on the side. I have the age thing going against me but I am told I am attractive to the ladies (by a lot of ladies) so WTF? This MILF I saw the other night should have been thrilled to have me fill her pussy but maybe it's an ethnic thing. Once my credits run out there I'm bagging it for sure.[/QUOTE]AM is a ripoff, plain and simple. They employ shills to try to lure guys into their pay-by-the-minute chatrooms, post fake profiles, and generally have nil respect for their customers. I wouldn't use them on a bet.

That said, there was a period prior to the end of my marriage where I frequented several of the married-but-looking sites. What I learned was that, by and large, the women on these sites are *not* looking for sex (or not only for sex or for a SB sort of thing) , they are looking for a white knight to save them from the misery of their horrible marriage. They are seeking emotional connection that fills the vacuum. They want *love* or at least some emotional involvement. The guys that come across as just-seeking-sex are the lowest of pond scum to these women. Of course, there are a few of the NSA / FWB seekers there, but they are definitely in the minority, and on some of the sites they are often directly encouraged to go elsewhere. All of the sites that I'm familiar with try to be very careful about killing the profiles of obvious pros and admitted SBs. They know they're already on shaky ground from the social-stigma aspect of the service they provide, and don't want the sort of attention CL and BP got from the state's attorneys general on top of it.

If you're married and want something on the side, several of these site may be good options, but only if you can handle the related drama (bunny-boilers are common on these sites.) If you want a more honest and straightforward SD / SB type of thing, go elsewhere.

Very well said!

[QUOTE=Cantwinlosin; 1271820]AM is a ripoff, plain and simple. They employ shills to try to lure guys into their pay-by-the-minute chatrooms, post fake profiles, and generally have nil respect for their customers. I wouldn't use them on a bet.

That said, there was a period prior to the end of my marriage where I frequented several of the married-but-looking sites. What I learned was that, by and large, the women on these sites are *not* looking for sex (or not only for sex or for a SB sort of thing) , they are looking for a white knight to save them from the misery of their horrible marriage. They are seeking emotional connection that fills the vacuum. They want *love* or at least some emotional involvement. The guys that come across as just-seeking-sex are the lowest of pond scum to these women. Of course, there are a few of the NSA / FWB seekers there, but they are definitely in the minority, and on some of the sites they are often directly encouraged to go elsewhere. All of the sites that I'm familiar with try to be very careful about killing the profiles of obvious pros and admitted SBs. They know they're already on shaky ground from the social-stigma aspect of the service they provide, and don't want the sort of attention CL and BP got from the state's attorneys general on top of it.

If you're married and want something on the side, several of these site may be good options, but only if you can handle the related drama (bunny-boilers are common on these sites.) If you want a more honest and straightforward SD / SB type of thing, go elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

Gentlemen (I do use that term loosely) , we have liftoff. Latina HYB success with TB#10 on 2nd date. TB#10 is a winner. Tight, very wet, full of energy and lots of good noise. I think I'm hooked. All of a sudden my MILFs, do seem so attractive anymore. .

Thanks team for gently leading me down this road with your HYB tales. She even spoke some Spanish to me during sex, man that was hot!

BigTigg.

[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1264764]OK, I'm working on a HYB for the Tigger Harem. .

22. Young Latina.

Pictures are smoking! So far she seems to be game with the way I like to do things (more covering expenses with a little extra in the gas money). She has good conversation and it's not as hard as I thought it would be to talk with a 22 year old. After the storm passes through, we are planning on scheduling our first date. No sugar was discussed, but she seems like she's going to be reasonable. However, I'm not quite as willing as Scott to avoid sex talk altogether. I do approach it from the perspective of asking one or two "do you like.", then change the topic back to other small talk as to not overwhelm them with the topic.

So far so good.

I think she's TB#10 and she's definitely the Latina Fantasy I've had for some years now. I wasn't expecting 22, but in order to fulfull my SD club obligation, I'm going to give it a try. I do have a 25 year in the stable already, so I guess that counts too. But this looks like it's going to be good and much more in line with what I think of for a HYB. I'll update you all after the first date, I hope to be tasting the goodies the first date in this case.

BigTigg[/QUOTE]

I found another source for SBs on CL. So keep that hunting ground in the loop.

I have send dozens of queries to "girls " advertising on CL Personals and 99. 9% have been web site pimps promoting bogus dating sites.

However. I got a legitimate reply from a 21 yr old and after exchanging pictures and a few texts invited her to the FC and banged her brains out. She said that she was amazed by my energy LOL and expected less of an older man. Go AARP! She was singing like a canary and wet as a river as I busted a large nut so I felt satisfied. She is a Nando class 1 desperately poor and living from hand to mouth, so she is not my ideal. But.she was shocked by the $ I gave her so she is the opposite of a GPS. I will call her a DPS (discounted Pussy syndrome) I like it that she was appreciative of my gift and effort. She will stay the night if I so desire so she is not a clock watcher. She is a 6 on looks. 9 attitude. 7 overall, so one could do a lot worse.

My college girl is still my heart's desire but is a little less available so I need to fill in where I can. We all know that frequent ejaculation is critical for prostate health so I am trying to stay healthy. If I were single I would want CG for a real girl friend and would prob get my heart broken since she probably wouldn't want me for more than I provide her.a few $s and a NSA experience.

I miss Literal2.

[QUOTE=Golfcart;1277231]I miss Literal2.[/QUOTE]+ 1 on that GC.

Lits last post was on 8/2 (post # 572) when he was very po'd at fotog over his combative posts regarding the hobby of sb / sd's.

Hopefully Lit2 is ok and has merely bannished himself, since he was so upset by this.

Come back Lit! We need you bro!

I'm wondering if he somehow didn't get caught by the warden and is now in solitary. I pm'ed him a couple of weeks ago, and no reply. That minor dust-up with Fotog surely is not enough to make him abandon his brothers.

I too miss his literate and often funny posts. But if you scroll back a little prior to his flameout with fotog, he said he was probably going to take a hiatus. Let's hope that's what he's doing, and that he's getting all the wet willie he dreams of.

Gentlemen,

Whether he is on self-imposed hiatus from this thread, or in lockdown, we owe it to the creator of this fantastic thread to keep actively posting. I will prepare a report of SB activity and personal insights and post it up shortly, but anyone else who is enjoying this fantastic aspect of the hobby is encouraged to share. My current SB, a 21 year old college student, is coming dangerously close to making me fall in love. Help!

Keep up the good work,

Scott

Where has everybody gone? I know there are a few Mongers working the Board but we don't hear as much anymore. Is it just that the active reporters have taken a break like Lit? Or have we overworked the system and run out of raw materiel?

Nando report :

SBSO (SB sig other) is still my #1 focus and I still see her 1 to 2 X / week. She is everything I want in a SB (almost) and my only complaint is she moved to North Carolina and is less available to me. We are still managing to keep up weekly visits though, but I am a little insecure about her ongoing availability and committment to me. We have a no ask / no tell policy about our sexual activities so I choose to think that she is only seeing me. Which is my preference. I, on the other hand, am exploring other sites and vaginas trying to assure that I get my 2-3 nuts / week. In my culture we believe in the double standard-period!

Fling- Is a renewed source lately and I have two girls primed and ready for the FC. One is on the books for this week already. Both are size 12's though, and I am not truly happy unless they are 2's to 4's. One is an athletic girl in her 30's who looks like she can work me over pretty well, and the other is a softer looking girl also 30's. But the worst fuck I have ever had has been great, so I will at least give them an opportunity to thrill me and see where to go from there. The young hot Fling girls are not interested in older guys. Or probably anyone. I think many are lurkers and get their jollies from being in print, or are shills. These two added to the lover I had earlier this year who was also Fluffy, but loved to fuck and was wild! I couldn't get interested in more than every 2-3 weeks with her but when we got together it was entertaining. We met 3 times before she got the guilts for cheating on her hubby, and bailed.

DPS (BP). Remember my discount pussy (syndrome) new 20 yr old? She gave a very servicable fuck for our first visit, but cancelled on round 2 leaving me with a serious SRH (Sperm Retention Headache ). I was pissed! We will try one more appointment and if she is not reliable I will pass her on to the board players. I cannot tolerate unreliability! We all have to schedule out the time, make our excuses, get ourselves excited, etc. So girls. Don't fuck with us! I will continue to glance at BP, but the quality and number of real girls looking for a hookup is pretty low.

AM. Sucks! I think the girls there are looking for young boys. I have had 4 tries. 3 meets, and only one taker but she is a size 20 ergo no invite to the FC. There were 2 outright rejections. A 50 yr old and a 30. Both very hot looking. The 30 I get but the 50?

SD4U. Is the gold standard. But you do run through the existing data base pretty quickly, and new sign ups in your geographical area are low. I met 4 hot girls pretty quickly and failed at two of them-1 broke stripper mother and 1 30 yr old fox. I think money and emotional detatchment were responsible for both. I wanted a regular connection and they definitely did not. The third was a 50 ish yr old decent fuck for the night but turned into a fatal attraction, and the 4th is my SO. And is superb. But even she does not want any emotional connection beyond romantic FC activities. No Honey, sweetie, darlings at all. No texting or calling between visits. I'm finding that random sex for most people is just that (and Do-Re. Me of course) Most of you are saying." what's wrong with that?" But I do like that part without the obsession. Hookers act like that. I want a SB to act the girlfriend part in between visits.

Others : Diamonddaddy, sugarsugar, a million others. Anybody have any luck with these? I have signed on but have not paid money, and you can't sample the goods until you pay. How about Adultfriendfinder, hookup, etc? Any leads?

WEll, thats it for now. Let's hear from you other Mongers. Make Lit proud!

[QUOTE=F Scott;1281019](edit delete) My current SB, a 21 year old college student, is coming dangerously close to making me fall in love. Help! Keep up the good work, Scott[/QUOTE]Scott, more power to you if you're a 22 year old college student cut from the same bolt of cloth.

If not the intervention is 9:00 pm Eastern Time tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Hernando;1281075]* edit delete* the 4th is my SO. And is superb. But even she does not want any emotional connection beyond romantic FC activities. No Honey, sweetie, darlings at all. No texting or calling between visits. I'm finding that random sex for most people is just that (and Do-Re. Me of course) Most of you are saying." what's wrong with that?" But I do like that part without the obsession. Hookers act like that. I want a SB to act the girlfriend part in between visits.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Golfcart; 1281205]Scott, more power to you if you're a 22 year old college student cut from the same bolt of cloth.

If not the intervention is 9:00 pm Eastern Time tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Sounds like Nando may soon need the 12 step SD treatment since he is yearning for that emotional attachment from the SB.

This may be all well and good until the SB takes the bait; hook, line and sinker. And demands more Nando than Nando can or will deliver.

Can you say playing with fire, or at least fanning the flames a bit too much here, IMO?

GC, plan on two attendees for tomorrow night.

Gentlemen,

Expanding a bit on Nando's observations, I have found, personally, that SA is the best producer of hot, high-quality babies in my area. I have had paid, all-access memberships on three other sites, SD4Me (2nd best, but fewer babies in my area) , Sugarsugar (nothing of real value there, and very few babies) and AM, which I agree is a sucky, total rip-off. All the contacts that came from there turned out to be shills for pay webcam sites. I believe every "sb"on that site is actually an Eastern European dude, just looking to get your credit card number. Nando, I'm surprised you even got as far as a meet with anyone.

Golf, you may be right. I wasted two hours in total yesterday checking my SD email account for a message from her, which of course did not come. She's just so hot, and the fucking is mind-blowing. I need to take a page from Lit's gamebook and fuck one or two of my other babies to get my mind off her. If that doesn't work, an intervention seems inevitable.

Keep up the good work,

Scott

Gentlemen,

As promised, I am submitting a to-date summary, over several posts, of my SD activity in the hopes that it will provide some assistance, insights, and a couple of chuckles along the way. This is by no means going to be an exhaustive narrative of every thrust and counter-thrust. I am only commenting on the babies that were interesting or unusual in some way. Also, I number them only when they have been fucked. Coffee doesn't count.

SB3 – A gorgeous, tall (6') thin, athletic Irish amazon. What's not to like, right? After a few emails, we meet and find we have many interests in common, not the least of which is an overriding interest in sex. We part with the promise of looking at our respective calendars with an eye towards finding a mutually-workable day and time to get to it.

Well, it turns out, among her many and wide-ranging hobbies, she is involved in the 'modern burlesque movement. ' If some of you are scratching your heads now and saying to yourselves 'what the heck is that? ' let me tell you it is a hotbed of potential babies. These are young women who have a healthy obsession with sex, have no problem taking their clothes completely off, and in fact view both as a mark of power. They are not strippers, as you and I might cassify them, in any sense of the word, however. They view what they do as an art form, reviving the glory days of burlesque and such luminaries as Sally Rand and others that I was not paying attention to so can't give you their names. Whatever.

A day and time is agreed upon, and I appear, pumped full of V, my pockets bulging with raincoats, and a jaunty tune running through my head. After some small talk, during which she asked if I were LEO, which I must admit put a speed bump in my otherwise open freeway for a moment or two, we started to get focused on the task at hand. Long story short, I make her cum via oral, slap on a cover, and bang that pussy for all I'm worth. Things reaching their inevitable conclusion, I reach down to remove the condom, at which point she freaks and shouts 'did you just cum? ' I kinda thought that was the objective here, right? When I replied in the affirmative, she jumped up and started yelling at me about stds and the need for proper 'protocol'. WTF? I'm a horny old fart, not a diplomat! After a longer-than-necessary lecture on the biological, medical and whatever need for sterile procedure when having sex, I pulled up my boxers, gave little Scottie, who by now is wisely hiding, a silent apology for getting him mixed up in such a debacle, and beat a hasty retreat. The strange denouement to this episode is that two weeks later she contacts me again through my SD email to see if I'm still thinking about her. Well, yes, in fact, I am. I'm thinking how lucky I was to get out of there with soul still connected to body.

I will continue to post up relevant experiences, and encourage my fellow Daddies to do the same. Knowledge is power.

Keep up the good work,

Scott

Gentleman;

It's been awhile since I posted but I have been following all of your exploits with a lot of interest. I wanted to share a situation that happened a couple of weeks ago and I invite your comments. Good hunting.

Coolhand.

CSB12 (21 yr old. 6'0, lean with gorgeous breasts) and I communicated for at least 2 months breaking off communication at least once. She insisted that I should be willing to provide sugar just to be in her presence. I insisted that without pussy there would be no sugar. I even agreed to a meet and great (which I have not done before) but without pussy, no sugar. I have to admit that the vision of those legs that went on forever wrapped around me was why I was willing to bend even that much. She finally accepted that if she wanted the sugar she was going to have to give up the pussy. The fact that I would not provide a picture became a stumbling block but my assurance that if I did not match my description that she was free to leave finally got past that.

After her acceptance that the pussy would have to be given up she insisted on knowing the amount of sugar. I wouldn't because I was afraid of the GP syndrome. I asked her to say what she wanted, but she refused saying "I can't put a price on my body." (Classic I am not a working girl) What she finally did was lay out what her bills were, the amount and when they had to be payed by. I then proposed 3 visits with equal amounts on each visit, which would cover her bills in time. She agreed. The amounts were what I would have provided so for me no harm no foul.

We agreed to meet at a fucking chamber I had used before, and visions of sugar plums danced in my head. First snafu was that I was 30 minutes late, which I informed her was going to happen about a hour before time.

Second snafu (and biggest) was they had no rooms ready. I was before check-in time but this had not been a problem in the past. They told be it would be 10 minutes. She arrives, in all her six foot glory, and I'm standing in the lobby with my thumb in my ass. Awkward! The 10 minutes turned into almost an hour and we finally get to the room. Now, I'm pressed for time and it turns out she's pressed for time. With it being our first meeting even I was not comfortable trying to jump immediately into bed. So we dis basically a meet and great with some very light petting, emphasis on the light.

Now comes the moment of truth when she had to go. What to do about the sugar? It was not her fault that I was late. It was not her fault that I could not get a room. She came prepared to give up the pussy and had allocated sufficient time to do so. I was reluctant, but I slipped the full amount of the sugar into her pocket. Off she went on those stilts that served for legs and I'm left with a woodie and a empty wallet. She sent me a very nice email afterwards. She said she was glad to see I was a honorable man. That she felt good about her decision and she was thinking of all the things we could do when we met again. To be honest, I'm not sure if I did the right thing. Time will tell.

Well, because of the fine advice I got from a few of you gents I entered a 12 step program for sex addicts. And only made one step. I was released when I hit on the hot counselor and offered her a paid position in my menage-erie LOL. Seriously, I know getting emotionally involved isn't good, cause I do know this cutie is a little embarassed to be seen in public with me.at least showing emotion in a loverly way. I can't blame her.but in private she couldn't be better.

Cool.glad to hear from you again! My take on your encounter is that you did the right thing.and it will reap benefits in the future if she liked you. If she didn't like you enough you wouldn't have seen her again anyway. Too bad about the lateness issues. Shit happens though.

Scott.it sounds like you and Cool are working the same 6 footer.

Fling.my two new friends are both responding in the affirmative re: a "meat" and greet. I do not have as much free time to court these ladies overnight so I don't know how and when I'm going to work them in.but I will.

BP.After cancelling the other day is hot to re enter the FC so I will give her one more chance. And she is local so I can work her into the rotation without needing all night, and will do soon. She is a little chunky but acts appreciative and has a clit the size of a quarter. I can almost give her a hand job.

[QUOTE=Coolhand2; 1282483]Gentleman;

Now comes the moment of truth when she had to go. What to do about the sugar? It was not her fault that I was late. It was not her fault that I could not get a room. She came prepared to give up the pussy and had allocated sufficient time to do so. I was reluctant, but I slipped the full amount of the sugar into her pocket. Off she went on those stilts that served for legs and I'm left with a woodie and a empty wallet. She sent me a very nice email afterwards. She said she was glad to see I was a honorable man. That she felt good about her decision and she was thinking of all the things we could do when we met again. To be honest, I'm not sure if I did the right thing. Time will tell.[/QUOTE]I think you did the right thing here. If you hadn't provided the sugar, it's doubtful you would see her again. Then you would miss out on those long legs. At least this way, you still have a shot! If there is a next time, then you'll know for certain. But if next time it doesn't work out, walk away.

I concur with Spit. Your observation that she came prepared to uphold her end of the arrangement is the thing to keep in mind. Also, she has two-thirds of the promised sugar still to go, so that will be incentive to her to come back and fulfill the deal. If for some reason it all falls apart, consider the lost sugar as the price of a lesson learned. Next time plan ahead for negative contingencies as much as is possible.

Keep up the good work,

Scott

All my experiences have come from "Sugardaddie", lots of hotties and lots of areas covered.

BigTigg.

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1281715]Gentlemen,

Expanding a bit on Nando's observations, I have found, personally, that SA is the best producer of hot, high-quality babies in my area. I have had paid, all-access memberships on three other sites, SD4Me (2nd best, but fewer babies in my area) , Sugarsugar (nothing of real value there, and very few babies) and AM, which I agree is a sucky, total rip-off. All the contacts that came from there turned out to be shills for pay webcam sites. I believe every "sb"on that site is actually an Eastern European dude, just looking to get your credit card number. Nando, I'm surprised you even got as far as a meet with anyone.

Golf, you may be right. I wasted two hours in total yesterday checking my SD email account for a message from her, which of course did not come. She's just so hot, and the fucking is mind-blowing. I need to take a page from Lit's gamebook and fuck one or two of my other babies to get my mind off her. If that doesn't work, an intervention seems inevitable.

Keep up the good work,

Scott[/QUOTE]

TB#3. We keep planning, but something keeps messing up the date.

TB#7. Have only hit it once, but we have a TiggaBounce date set for the first week of the month.

TB#9. Was my main squeeze, but life has put a squeeze on her. I have not seen her about a month now.

TB#10. It's amazing what being around someone so young can do for you. Seeing her at least once a week. Actually it's been twice a week since we got started. She let it slip that before she had her little one, she stripped for about a year. She didn't know how much of a "plus" that was! So for the last TiggaBounce, I got on the edge of the bed and she gave me the best naked_lapdance_fuck I've ever had. {I think it's my first actually} It was like what I'm normally dreaming of when I get a lapdance. Only this time she really was naked and she was working that TiggaStick over like a champ. To the point where she got 2 orgasms and was all sweaty when she was done.

She wants to see me once to twice a week and I'm consistently coming in less than $ each time. I even tested her with a cheaper hotel this last time and it didn't phase her at all. I'm going to ride this one fellas for as long as I can. We have a overnight trip scheduled coming up soon. I'll pick her up and drive to the next state over, hang out all night and come back the next afternoon. Speaking of some of the conversation about talking between. We do talk almost daily. If we don't talk, we definitely email. But we pretty much talk every day. It's been a blast.

I don't think I'm going to need the 12 step plan, we have been very clear with boundaries and limitations. She doesn't want a real boyfriend just yet. She's got a lot going on and this arrangement is really working for her. She gets to go out, have fun and not spend any money. The gas and sitter are always covered. So far so good!

I'm so glad I stumbled on this thread. I hope my reports have been helpful.

BigTigg.

[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1263232]It's been almost a month, here's the latest.

TB #2. Gone, gave some lame excuse. Just too flaky, I never got to taste the goodies.

TB #3. Still no luck yet, she had BF drama the night we were supposed to meet. I have some great photos, but have not tasted the goodies yet.

TB #4. Done.

TB #5. All Star! . Flew in, looked way better than pictures, banging body (especially if you like big butts!) The sex was off the charts. If she were closer, it would be in so much trouble. I tried to do as advised and give her a little sugar to go. But once she paid for the lunch on Saturday, I knew it would not go over well. She stated that since I paid for everything else, it's the least she could do. (I'm sitting there stunned). So she's more of a MILF / SB. I can't wait to get at it again. Even the cost of the hotel and flight $$$$ was worth the over 20 hours of time together. It was pretty much, whatever I could get in, during that time, so it was on when we were together.

TB#6. Have not heard from her. No time to follow up with her now. (I still have the Airline gift cards ready for use)

TB#7. Linked up with her for Dinner and Hotel date. Very nice, great body and great attitude. The sexy was very good, will get better each time I'm sure. She communicates daily and we are trying to link up again next week. Not sure if it's going to work. TB#9 has been taking up a lot of my time.

TB#8. She went out of town and didn't get in lots of contact when she came back. She's juggling a number of SDs. Not a high priority anymore.

TB#9. 32 Year old, beautiful African-American. Great Body, great attitude. She's more of the affair type as opposed to straight SD / SB. Works for me, nobody has asked for exclusivity. She's by far the one I've spent the most time with and enjoy the most. Mainly pay for gas, and a I've thrown in a little extra. Have yet to have any amount over $. So far. 4 Hotel dates (including 2 over-nighters) , multiple pops and 2 non-hotel dates. (One of the non hotel dates ended in HJ, so even that was surprisingly successful!)

So currently,

TB#9 is the main squeeze. Averaging once a week.

TB#7 is my main pay to play. Averaging once a month. Sugar was not negotiated, but the $, seems to be suffice.

TB#5 is my top choice, will probably see once a quarter.

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Still have my normal two MILFs that I see once a month or every other month.

BigTigg.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Coolhand2;1282483]Now comes the moment of truth when she had to go. What to do about the sugar? It was not her fault that I was late. It was not her fault that I could not get a room. She came prepared to give up the pussy and had allocated sufficient time to do so. I was reluctant, but I slipped the full amount of the sugar into her pocket. Off she went on those stilts that served for legs and I'm left with a woodie and a empty wallet. She sent me a very nice email afterwards. She said she was glad to see I was a honorable man. That she felt good about her decision and she was thinking of all the things we could do when we met again. To be honest, I'm not sure if I did the right thing. Time will tell.[/QUOTE]That was clearly a no-brainer. Cool did the right thing for the right reason. CSB12 saying she was glad to see Cool was an honorable man and she felt good about her decision gives a lot of insight into her.

Long time lurker here. I decided to jump in and have been very successful. I started by rtff. Very good information. Joined SD4me. Used the suggested profile and WOW 15 hits. Met up with the first one this week.

I will call her sb1. 22 year old hot lady. Met for dinner first. Then set up next date. On next date went straight to chamber. What a night. Sb2 is setup for next week. Looks promising. 20 year old student. I will let you know. Sb3 is set up for the first week of Oct.

Thank you very much for the advice. Happy hunting.

Thanks for the report Drock. So what's the sugar damage?

BigTigg.

[QUOTE=Drock1234; 1283499]Long time lurker here. I decided to jump in and have been very successful. I started by rtff. Very good information. Joined SD4me. Used the suggested profile and WOW 15 hits. Met up with the first one this week.

I will call her sb1. 22 year old hot lady. Met for dinner first. Then set up next date. On next date went straight to chamber. What a night. Sb2 is setup for next week. Looks promising. 20 year old student. I will let you know. Sb3 is set up for the first week of Oct.

Thank you very much for the advice. Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]

Another Beautiful Latina. She lives many many states away. But that's cool as #10 is keeping me very busy here locally. Conversations have been great. She will replace one of my other far away SB who flaked out on me. I expect to see her within the next 2 months. She's cool with my type of sugar, where I cover expenses and enjoy the weekend.

Of course I'll keep the board updated.

BigTigg