Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=La Muerte]Went to HT in Billy, Alec and Steven park. Asked for Gigi, but was told she wasn't there. Got C**s***a, a K-girl with a fantastic body and average K-girl face. She was sweet and accommodating, but it was a bit of a rushed time. I wanted to take a whole hour, and offered to pay for that amount of time, but was told no. 30 minutes is too short for my taste, but all in all was a good time. CFS, BBBJ DATY and LFK was on the menu. $50 to the house plus $ was the damage.

The strange thing is, there were two other K-girls (both very pretty) hanging around with no customers. So it really escapes me why they didn't want me around for the hour that I was willing to pay. I might go back, but that was a major deterrent.

LM[/QUOTE]

The rush is my problem with this place too - and many other FS joints that similarly have top tier K-Girls and good service. I understand why they don't want to give you an hour during busy times, but it is like that most of the time. If you're a regular, I'm sure they don't sweat you on it.

Only explanation I can think of is that most guys don't increase the tip for longer sessions. If they tip $ for 30mins., most will tip $ or maybe $.2 for an hour. I'm no exception but very simply I could not ever go to these places if I had to tip $$. B. Malibu counsels that we should tip double for double time and his logic plays out in these scenarios.

The house doesn't always double the hh rate for an hour, so they don't pull in much more money. So seems to me the girls just don't want to provide service for an hour for a tip that they know they can get for a hh.

HT in Billy, Alec and Steven park.

[QUOTE=The Camel]Only explanation I can think of is that most guys don't increase the tip for longer sessions. If they tip $ for 30mins., most will tip $ or maybe $.2 for an hour. I'm no exception but very simply I could not ever go to these places if I had to tip $$. B. Malibu counsels that we should tip double for double time and his logic plays out in these scenarios.

The house doesn't always double the hh rate for an hour, so they don't pull in much more money. So seems to me the girls just don't want to provide service for an hour for a tip that they know they can get for a hh.[/QUOTE]Fair point. I'd actually have been willing to tip more than $ if I'd have gotten my full hour, but it's hard to convey that while maintaining discretion in the course of talking with the MMS. I think you're right, that becoming a regular probably helps.

I think something in between $ and $$ would be a fair tip for a full hour - maybe $.5. I mean, it's double the time, but it's not necessarily double the effort.

LM

Visited place called "self-indulgence" (on near century city I think on pico) because there was a hot girl amy that worked there before and she offered "male trimming" but she wouldn't give a HE but now the place had different girls there & I told them I was there before & they asked did I want room with table or floor & I said floor. Got in and got naked & in came "cha-cha"? She was average sized but kinda cute about 25-29yrs & gave average massage & then went straight into HE after I put my hand on her thigh. Maybe more is on the menu like FS but I didn't ask. She gave me her personal digits & even texted me but I will stick to my BSW's or non-pros its just that I like a massage & HE every once in awhile.

I decided to try out this place in Eagle Rock because no one has posted much around that area. Went to one listed on CL, the big street named after a state. # is 1113. AMP w/ older Chinese.

Went there for HH/$.40. No towel or any real pretense of a massage just rubbed my back a little and asked what I wanted. I said a BJ and she wanted $1.20 for it! Said I only had $.60 and she said only HJ so I took it. I don't really get off though when I get a HJ so I couldn't release. Offered $.20 more for the BJ but she laughed staying firm on $1.20. When I tried to explain $.8 was normal she laughed it off saying HJ is 60.. 50... 40... 80. No clue what that meant.

Anyways really turned off at that point so just told her to stop, got up and left.

Reposting cause I'm not sure if the last report went through, not sure if there's an approval process for reports.

Went to Eagle Rock AMP because no one really write reports about the area so I decided to TOFTT.

Place is on the street named after a state. # is 1113. $.40/HH they offer 4 hand message @ $.70. Ad is on CL.

No pretense of a massage. No towel and she just came in and rubbed some oil then asked what I wanted. I asked for BJ she said $1.20! Told her I only had $0.60 and she says only HJ so I said fine.

I can't release with a HJ so she's going at it for a long time. I offer her $.20 for BJ and refuses to budge from $1.20. I told her $0.80 is about right for a BJ and she got mad saying something about HJ normally 60... 40... 50.. 80. I have no idea what that means.

Anyways I was pretty turned off by all of this, she was getting frustrated and not doing anything for me looks wise or with the hands so I just said forget it and got up, cleaned off and left. Suffice to say I won't be going back again. Not worth it at all and lots of better places nearby.

Gentlemen,

I am a total newbie who would just like to find a good massage with a HE HJ. What is the best, safest way to make this happen. Are there any ins and outs I should be aware of. How do you do this. Where would be good too, although I think I can figure that out from around. Any instructions/advice would be appreciated.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Joe Talon]Reposting cause I'm not sure if the last report went through, not sure if there's an approval process for reports.

Went to Eagle Rock AMP because no one really write reports about the area so I decided to TOFTT.

Place is on the street named after a state. # is 1113. $.40/HH they offer 4 hand message @ $.70. Ad is on CL.

No pretense of a massage. No towel and she just came in and rubbed some oil then asked what I wanted. I asked for BJ she said $1.20! Told her I only had $0.60 and she says only HJ so I said fine.

I can't release with a HJ so she's going at it for a long time. I offer her $.20 for BJ and refuses to budge from $1.20. I told her $0.80 is about right for a BJ and she got mad saying something about HJ normally 60... 40... 50.. 80. I have no idea what that means.

Anyways I was pretty turned off by all of this, she was getting frustrated and not doing anything for me looks wise or with the hands so I just said forget it and got up, cleaned off and left. Suffice to say I won't be going back again. Not worth it at all and lots of better places nearby.[/QUOTE]

I went there once a couple of years ago and had a very unsatisfying experience with an old, fat and unattractive hag trying to up-sell for ridiculous amounts. I see from your post and other reviews around the 'Net over the years that this continues to be the norm here. I can't imagine that anyone ever goes to this place more than once. Apparently they are able to survive without any repeat business, which is amazing when you consider how much superior competition they have in the area.

I believe that everyone has their own techniques. In all cases, there is always a risk in pursuing this. I've been in this hobby for a long time, and have been careless in the past. However, the best tools are to research different websites, then pursue the MP's onsite that you feel have the best potential for what you are seeking. Always strip down to nothing as a start. I always "inadvertently" move my hands in such a manner that I touch thigh, or ass. This is usually fairly easy to do as you are face down with your hands hanging off the sides. Sometimes the masseuse makes this easy for you to. Once that is out of the way, I sort of do it more often and more obviously. If no complaints, I just start groping a bit more and relaxing. The girl gets it, and will ask what options you want off the menu. Just start slow my friend, and be careful.

[QUOTE=Quietly Alive]Gentlemen,

I am a total newbie who would just like to find a good massage with a HE HJ. What is the best, safest way to make this happen. Are there any ins and outs I should be aware of. How do you do this. Where would be good too, although I think I can figure that out from around. Any instructions/advice would be appreciated.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I believe the TS they were referring to was a Table Shower. Hahaha

[QUOTE=Stegram]A trans sexual in the bathroom? That's awkward.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sonicus]That is crazy if i saw a trannie in the shower of a AMP I think I would freak out and leave, thats just to weird for me.[/QUOTE]

I went to a AAMP in rosemead an asian chick that goes by the name coco she was ok, damage was 100 for half hour gave a decent bbbj, nothing to brag about, covered fs which is was cool cause she felt decently tight not loose at all, so overall I give her a 7 in performance has a cute body, kinda off beat-up face. I felt real comfortable in her little apartment it seem cozy in a ghetto way.

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[QUOTE=Joe Talon]I decided to try out this place in Eagle Rock because no one has posted much around that area. Went to one listed on CL, the big street named after a state. # is 1113. AMP w/ older Chinese.

Went there for HH/$.40. No towel or any real pretense of a massage just rubbed my back a little and asked what I wanted. I said a BJ and she wanted $1.20 for it! Said I only had $.60 and she said only HJ so I took it. I don't really get off though when I get a HJ so I couldn't release. Offered $.20 more for the BJ but she laughed staying firm on $1.20. When I tried to explain $.8 was normal she laughed it off saying HJ is 60.. 50... 40... 80. No clue what that meant.

Anyways really turned off at that point so just told her to stop, got up and left.[/QUOTE]

That amp i believe is 24 hours but yeah it usually has really old techs and they ask for unusually high tips, not worth it even if 24hrs. Try the numerous ones up and down Eagle Rock blvd, you'll have better luck in those. They charge the normal tip for extras.

[QUOTE=Alxm1]That amp i believe is 24 hours but yeah it usually has really old techs and they ask for unusually high tips, not worth it even if 24hrs. Try the numerous ones up and down Eagle Rock blvd, you'll have better luck in those. They charge the normal tip for extras.[/QUOTE]Do you know which ones specifically? Tried this one b/c it was on CL. Looked on the other review sites and couldn't find ones that do more than a HE.

I hope you did not tip her at all and walked out of there. Some of these chicks are too demanding at times.

[QUOTE=Alxm1]That amp i believe is 24 hours but yeah it usually has really old techs and they ask for unusually high tips, not worth it even if 24hrs. Try the numerous ones up and down Eagle Rock blvd, you'll have better luck in those. They charge the normal tip for extras.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Joe Talon]Do you know which ones specifically? Tried this one b/c it was on CL. Looked on the other review sites and couldn't find ones that do more than a HE.[/QUOTE]

Well there are two thai places, one by freshneasy and the other up past jack in the crack by a little italian restaurant called capri. Those are legit as most thai places are.

But practically every other massage place up and down er blvd will offer at the very least he and a couple offer fs. Search for them on CL and BP under the therapuetic sections. Theres been an influx of amps on er blvd which is good and bad. Bad because theres too many on such a short street, just asking for trouble. Good because you know why. lol

[QUOTE=Buck Nasty]I hope you did not tip her at all and walked out of there. Some of these chicks are too demanding at times.[/QUOTE]

I got the slightly younger prettier one at the time. Talked her down to 30 for he. It was decent but yeah I still need a younger tech to enjoy it more. I called recently to see if things had changed but I could tell it was an older tech talking to me. And she actually told me over the phone that a tip was expected. Told me it will be 40 plus tip. Man you dont ask for tip up front. That was it for me, no more going there.

Went to an amp in Eagle Rock that I used to go to a lot but less recently because of their inferior techs. It's located on a street named after another southland city.
I went in and an old hag serviced me. That wasn't half of it. As I am being messaged I feel something licking my hand which was hanging off of the message table. Well his hag had a dog (I think a shitzu) that was licking my fingers. The stupid hag doesn't shoo the damn dog away and the dog smelled bad.
I finally asked her to kick the dog out but a couple of minutes later it comes back and takes my underwear in its mouth and hightails it. She runs after the dog and gives me back my now wet boxers.
I was pissed so I just turned and asked her to BBBJ me. She did as I held her head in my crotch until I jizzed all over her face.
.4 for the house and .6 tip.

[QUOTE=Courtrat]Went to an AMP in Eagle Rock that I used to go to a lot but less recently because of their inferior techs. It's located on a street named after another southland city.

I went in and an old hag serviced me. That wasn't half of it. As I am being messaged I feel something licking my hand which was hanging off of the message table. Well his hag had a dog (I think a shitzu) that was licking my fingers. The stupid hag doesn't shoo the damn dog away and the dog smelled bad.

I finally asked her to kick the dog out but a couple of minutes later it comes back and takes my underwear in its mouth and hightails it. She runs after the dog and gives me back my now wet boxers.

I was pissed so I just turned and asked her to BBBJ me. She did as I held her head in my crotch until I jizzed all over her face.

. 4 for the house and $60 tip.[/QUOTE]Could you be more specific about which one this is?

Sit Ubu sit.. good dog! [QUOTE=Courtrat]Went to an amp in Eagle Rock that I used to go to a lot but less recently because of their inferior techs. It's located on a street named after another southland city.
I went in and an old hag serviced me. That wasn't half of it. As I am being messaged I feel something licking my hand which was hanging off of the message table. Well his hag had a dog (I think a shitzu) that was licking my fingers. The stupid hag doesn't shoo the damn dog away and the dog smelled bad.
I finally asked her to kick the dog out but a couple of minutes later it comes back and takes my underwear in its mouth and hightails it. She runs after the dog and gives me back my now wet boxers.
I was pissed so I just turned and asked her to BBBJ me. She did as I held her head in my crotch until I jizzed all over her face.
.4 for the house and .6 tip.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Courtrat]Went to an amp in Eagle Rock that I used to go to a lot but less recently because of their inferior techs. It's located on a street named after another southland city.
I went in and an old hag serviced me. That wasn't half of it. As I am being messaged I feel something licking my hand which was hanging off of the message table. Well his hag had a dog (I think a shitzu) that was licking my fingers. The stupid hag doesn't shoo the damn dog away and the dog smelled bad.
I finally asked her to kick the dog out but a couple of minutes later it comes back and takes my underwear in its mouth and hightails it. She runs after the dog and gives me back my now wet boxers.
I was pissed so I just turned and asked her to BBBJ me. She did as I held her head in my crotch until I jizzed all over her face.
.4 for the house and .6 tip.[/QUOTE]

LMFAO I know what place youre talking about. I was like WTF too when I saw that freakin lil dog. Crazy.

[QUOTE=Joe Talon]Could you be more specific about which one this is?[/QUOTE]

Dog or hag? I think he said it was a shitzu.

Very funny for us - sucks that it happened to you!

Anyway, here is a report from me about a Thai MP in N Hollywood (their ads mention a donut shop). The first time I checked it out, I was very surprised that the masseuse offered a BBBJ. I thought I had struck a gold mine. But when I went back (about two weeks ago), the mms said that that particular girl had quit. Instead I ended up with someone that was below average. No nice way to put it - but her age really shows - the thick makeup only made me feel sad. She was also not eager about the HJ though she knew that it was expected. So if you want to take your chance at that place (I won't), make sure you don't get Anna.

[QUOTE=Courtrat]Went to an amp in Eagle Rock that I used to go to a lot but less recently because of their inferior techs. It's located on a street named after another southland city.

I went in and an old hag serviced me. That wasn't half of it. As I am being messaged I feel something licking my hand which was hanging off of the message table. Well his hag had a dog (I think a shitzu) that was licking my fingers. The stupid hag doesn't shoo the damn dog away and the dog smelled bad.

I finally asked her to kick the dog out but a couple of minutes later it comes back and takes my underwear in its mouth and hightails it. She runs after the dog and gives me back my now wet boxers.

I was pissed so I just turned and asked her to BBBJ me. She did as I held her head in my crotch until I jizzed all over her face.

.4 for the house and .6 tip.[/QUOTE]

Gents- First time, first report. All I was looking for was a R&T FYI.

I went to a place on Pico. Near the place where you should say you play cards with Neil, Ken and Rick. Barely made the early bird special. The lady(Mamasan) 40 or so a 5 put me right into a room. No doors only curtains to the rooms and the walls do not go all the way up. You can hear the telephone and the door, people walking etc... Anyway thought I would get someone beside the host, but I got her. She gave a decent massage, although she left twice once to restart the music and once to answer the door. Receptive to roaming hands although didn't really want to. Nice HE, and then continued to massage for the rest of the hour. All and all very average. Still awesome stuff, definitely left with a smile. As I was leaving there was another girl. 6 fyi. I am Looking for something similar, but add hot masseuse, and better massage let me know if you can advise. Definitely still going to explore.

I tried out the place at 9450 Pico. Maybe the same place described in a previous report. Walls do not go to the ceiling and no doors, only curtains. I got the feeling that not much extras were available and the tech was somewhat older. I did not even try for extras. Fairly good massage but I wanted more than massage, so will not repeat.

*URGENT*

First time to post but had to give a heads up on this one.

The "White House" has just been infiltrated.

Saw it first hand about 8:00 PM.

I don't mean to ask a stupid question, but I've never gotten a table shower before. Are they clean? I mean, do you lay down on a towel and do they also have some kind of mat covering the table? How does the damn thing work?

[QUOTE=Joker32;1073850]I don't mean to ask a stupid question, but I've never gotten a table shower before. Are they clean? I mean, do you lay down on a towel and do they also have some kind of mat covering the table? How does the damn thing work?[/QUOTE]Table Shower = Table + Shower LOL.

I've been to some places that have one of these mostly I get picky specially regarding this matter (specially the rubber mat thing, since I do not know who lay there and got the shower previously I advice you to go to shower in your home and be squeakly clean. Can be an advantage to your provider if you have clean balls too you know.

[QUOTE=Joker32;1073850]I don't mean to ask a stupid question, but I've never gotten a table shower before. Are they clean? I mean, do you lay down on a towel and do they also have some kind of mat covering the table? How does the damn thing work?[/QUOTE]It's usually a table made of something that can stand wet environments (plastic or aluminum) with a thick 4 inch soft cushion mat that extends from head to toe, about 6 feet long, made of a closed vinyl material. The "pillow" that they use is usually some bamboo springy thing that acts as a cushion for your head. They sometimes line it with a small clean hand towel.

You lay face down on the table, the girl uses a shower hand spout and some liquid body wash on you. Washes you up real good. Flips you over, same thing. They try not to get your hair wet, but still happens sometimes. They're typically fully dressed when giving you the table shower, so you groping them during isn't always possible.

Is there any place that gives a TS in LA? I used to get them all the time in Rhode Island. Good times.

Thanks,

Toodw

[QUOTE=BenderOver; 1074130]It's usually a table made of something that can stand wet environments (plastic or aluminum) with a thick 4 inch soft cushion mat that extends from head to toe, about 6 feet long, made of a closed vinyl material. The "pillow" that they use is usually some bamboo springy thing that acts as a cushion for your head. They sometimes line it with a small clean hand towel.

You lay face down on the table, the girl uses a shower hand spout and some liquid body wash on you. Washes you up real good. Flips you over, same thing. They try not to get your hair wet, but still happens sometimes. They're typically fully dressed when giving you the table shower, so you groping them during isn't always possible. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Toodw; 1074147]Is there any place that gives a TS in LA? I used to get them all the time in Rhode Island. Good times.

Thanks,

Toodw[/QUOTE]Some parts of WeHo have TS on their menu

[QUOTE=Toodw; 1074147]Is there any place that gives a TS in LA? I used to get them all the time in Rhode Island. Good times.

Thanks,

Toodw[/QUOTE]HT in BP does too.

[QUOTE=Toodw; 1074147]Is there any place that gives a TS in LA? I used to get them all the time in Rhode Island. Good times.

Thanks,

Toodw[/QUOTE]They are actually pretty plentiful all around the L. A. And OC areas though not always advertised if you are looking for places in print or web ads. Call to find out before you go. Try not to ask upon entry as that indicates it is your first time.

IMO, if you feature TS's in your MP hobbying as I do whenever possible, as a general rule you'll have a better experience in the rub and tug places than in the FS places. Aside from the fact that the quality of the TS facilities tends to be better in r&ts, FS customers typically take 30 minute sessions and so the whole deal is rushed. HT in BP is one of the great FS places in SoCal, but if you can book an hour you're a better man than me. The actual TS facility is inferior. More like an after thought. No doubt though you can get lucky and receive a decent body scrub there if you get the right girl. But when you book an hour session at an r&t you tend to get a long and luxurious TS and you will emerge the cleanest you've ever been in your life including the first few feet of your colon, sexually aroused as no body part gets more attention from the masseuses' tender scrubbing hands than that filthy cock and balls assembly. Many guys give up a load in the table shower, and the best masseuses actually scrub you down with massaging hands.

I strongly advise that the TS be the first part of the program. Don't let them talk you into doing it last "to wash off the oil". It really sets you up feeling clean, relaxed and aroused for the massage and HE to follow. They'll bath you again in hot towels to remove oil later on or you can take a regular shower if you like before you leave.

One r&t I use regularly in the L. A. Basin is called Moon on Temple close to downtown. Not all the girls in this place are great looking and there have been reports of HE refused. But for sure all the girls are great masseuses and give excellent thorough table showers (and a couple are great looking. Make them believe you've been there before and you'll get your HE. BTW, many r&ts that have TS place giant boxer shorts on the massage table and may tell you to wear them into the TS. Never put those things on voluntarily and resist an instruction to wear them. If they absolutely make you wear them, you may be in a legit joint. Once your anus, dick and scrotum have been lovingly washed in a TS, you have passed the cop test.

Would love some more info on these TS places. Is there any near Torrance / Gardena?

[QUOTE=The Camel; 1075270]They are actually pretty plentiful all around the L. A. And OC areas though not always advertised if you are looking for places in print or web ads. Call to find out before you go. Try not to ask upon entry as that indicates it is your first time.

IMO, if you feature TS's in your MP hobbying as I do whenever possible, as a general rule you'll have a better experience in the rub and tug places than in the FS places. Aside from the fact that the quality of the TS facilities tends to be better in are&ts, FS customers typically take 30 minute sessions and so the whole deal is rushed. HT in BP is one of the great FS places in SoCal, but if you can book an hour you're a better man than me. The actual TS facility is inferior. More like an after thought. No doubt though you can get lucky and receive a decent body scrub there if you get the right girl. But when you book an hour session at an are&t you tend to get a long and luxurious TS and you will emerge the cleanest you've ever been in your life including the first few feet of your colon, sexually aroused as no body part gets more attention from the masseuses' tender scrubbing hands than that filthy cock and balls assembly. Many guys give up a load in the table shower, and the best masseuses actually scrub you down with massaging hands.

I strongly advise that the TS be the first part of the program. Don't let them talk you into doing it last "to wash off the oil". It really sets you up feeling clean, relaxed and aroused for the massage and HE to follow. They'll bath you again in hot towels to remove oil later on or you can take a regular shower if you like before you leave.

One are&t I use regularly in the L. A. Basin is called Moon on Temple close to downtown. Not all the girls in this place are great looking and there have been reports of HE refused. But for sure all the girls are great masseuses and give excellent thorough table showers (and a couple are great looking. Make them believe you've been there before and you'll get your HE. BTW, many are&ts that have TS place giant boxer shorts on the massage table and may tell you to wear them into the TS. Never put those things on voluntarily and resist an instruction to wear them. If they absolutely make you wear them, you may be in a legit joint. Once your anus, dick and scrotum have been lovingly washed in a TS, you have passed the cop test. [/QUOTE]

I decided to check out the AMP on westwood (referenced here before. It has a foot massage next door. From the outside, it looked like it would be a HE type place with its cast iron gate and door bell. In any case, I walked up to the reception. Salina was my RA. Late 30's Chinese woman with a belly. I got undressed and she came in and covered me up with a large towel. After HH, no HE. But got a really good massage, which was what I was looking for to be honest. HE would have been a nice touch, but didn't mind saving myself a few dollars. Overall, 0.5 damage.

A few weeks prior, I decided to check out HT in BP. I got there, and was surprised it was in a strip mall with kids hanging outside. I got inside, and the MMS immediately says. "long time no see! ", gives me a hug, and then welcomed me in like I was an old friend. She leads me to the room, where she tells me she will bring out a busty girl who was "20 yo". I pay her the door fee and she scurries away. In comes "sexy Diana" (her words, not mine. She did have a really nice see chest but she was also not the petite anorexic k-girls I usually like. But she was not fat by any means. Her face was ok. Maybe a 6, but I wasn't that attracted. I get a TS and before I head into the bathroom, the MMS rushes out from the side room and tells Diana to "treat me very well because I'm a good customer. " Back in the room, action begins. Good CBJ and then a few positions. I put her legs high in the air and then behind her ears and pounded her hard. She said that was her favorite position. It's my favorite as well so I finished and then cleaned up. Overall experience was decent, not great by any means. Probably won't go back just because of how far it is from me. Overall damage was $.50 if I recall correctly.

I have questions for The Camel. With this detailed post on TS, you have labeled yourself as an expert in this area. I have never had a TS because of a couple of concerns. Maybe you can clear the air for me.

1. Security. I am not comfortable leaving my wallet and other stuff in a different room than I am in. What is the procedures with a TS as to where you leave your valuables?

2. The sanitation issue. It is bad enough to sometimes deal with an ASM where they don't always change sheets in between clients. But water breeds bacteria and harbors desease. You talk about the colon and groin getting a good wash with TS. What is done to keep the act sanitary? What is actually used for the rubbing? I hope they don't use a sponge that gets reused. How do they clean the area between clients? Please clue me and other in on this.

[QUOTE=The Camel; 1075270]They are actually pretty plentiful all around the L. A. And OC areas though not always advertised if you are looking for places in print or web ads. Call to find out before you go. Try not to ask upon entry as that indicates it is your first time.

IMO, if you feature TS's in your MP hobbying as I do whenever possible, as a general rule you'll have a better experience in the rub and tug places than in the FS places. Aside from the fact that the quality of the TS facilities tends to be better in are&ts, FS customers typically take 30 minute sessions and so the whole deal is rushed. HT in BP is one of the great FS places in SoCal, but if you can book an hour you're a better man than me. The actual TS facility is inferior. More like an after thought. No doubt though you can get lucky and receive a decent body scrub there if you get the right girl. But when you book an hour session at an are&t you tend to get a long and luxurious TS and you will emerge the cleanest you've ever been in your life including the first few feet of your colon, sexually aroused as no body part gets more attention from the masseuses' tender scrubbing hands than that filthy cock and balls assembly. Many guys give up a load in the table shower, and the best masseuses actually scrub you down with massaging hands.

I strongly advise that the TS be the first part of the program. Don't let them talk you into doing it last "to wash off the oil". It really sets you up feeling clean, relaxed and aroused for the massage and HE to follow. They'll bath you again in hot towels to remove oil later on or you can take a regular shower if you like before you leave.

One are&t I use regularly in the L. A. Basin is called Moon on Temple close to downtown. Not all the girls in this place are great looking and there have been reports of HE refused. But for sure all the girls are great masseuses and give excellent thorough table showers (and a couple are great looking. Make them believe you've been there before and you'll get your HE. BTW, many are&ts that have TS place giant boxer shorts on the massage table and may tell you to wear them into the TS. Never put those things on voluntarily and resist an instruction to wear them. If they absolutely make you wear them, you may be in a legit joint. Once your anus, dick and scrotum have been lovingly washed in a TS, you have passed the cop test. [/QUOTE]

I'm assuming you meant, damage was.5 for entrance right?

[QUOTE=Hominem; 1076878]I decided to check out the AMP on westwood (referenced here before. It has a foot massage next door. From the outside, it looked like it would be a HE type place with its cast iron gate and door bell. In any case, I walked up to the reception. Salina was my RA. Late 30's Chinese woman with a belly. I got undressed and she came in and covered me up with a large towel. After HH, no HE. But got a really good massage, which was what I was looking for to be honest. HE would have been a nice touch, but didn't mind saving myself a few dollars. Overall, 0.5 damage.

A few weeks prior, I decided to check out HT in BP. I got there, and was surprised it was in a strip mall with kids hanging outside. I got inside, and the MMS immediately says. "long time no see! ", gives me a hug, and then welcomed me in like I was an old friend. She leads me to the room, where she tells me she will bring out a busty girl who was "20 yo". I pay her the door fee and she scurries away. In comes "sexy Diana" (her words, not mine. She did have a really nice see chest but she was also not the petite anorexic k-girls I usually like. But she was not fat by any means. Her face was ok. Maybe a 6, but I wasn't that attracted. I get a TS and before I head into the bathroom, the MMS rushes out from the side room and tells Diana to "treat me very well because I'm a good customer. " Back in the room, action begins. Good CBJ and then a few positions. I put her legs high in the air and then behind her ears and pounded her hard. She said that was her favorite position. It's my favorite as well so I finished and then cleaned up. Overall experience was decent, not great by any means. Probably won't go back just because of how far it is from me. Overall damage was $.50 if I recall correctly. [/QUOTE]

Where is ht in BP?

If you want the petite anorexic look at HT try to find when Kimberly is working. I like petite myself, but she is almost too anorexic looking for my tastes.

[QUOTE=Hominem; 1076878]I decided to check out the AMP on westwood (referenced here before. It has a foot massage next door. From the outside, it looked like it would be a HE type place with its cast iron gate and door bell. In any case, I walked up to the reception. Salina was my RA. Late 30's Chinese woman with a belly. I got undressed and she came in and covered me up with a large towel. After HH, no HE. But got a really good massage, which was what I was looking for to be honest. HE would have been a nice touch, but didn't mind saving myself a few dollars. Overall, 0.5 damage.

A few weeks prior, I decided to check out HT in BP. I got there, and was surprised it was in a strip mall with kids hanging outside. I got inside, and the MMS immediately says. "long time no see! ", gives me a hug, and then welcomed me in like I was an old friend. She leads me to the room, where she tells me she will bring out a busty girl who was "20 yo". I pay her the door fee and she scurries away. In comes "sexy Diana" (her words, not mine. She did have a really nice see chest but she was also not the petite anorexic k-girls I usually like. But she was not fat by any means. Her face was ok. Maybe a 6, but I wasn't that attracted. I get a TS and before I head into the bathroom, the MMS rushes out from the side room and tells Diana to "treat me very well because I'm a good customer. " Back in the room, action begins. Good CBJ and then a few positions. I put her legs high in the air and then behind her ears and pounded her hard. She said that was her favorite position. It's my favorite as well so I finished and then cleaned up. Overall experience was decent, not great by any means. Probably won't go back just because of how far it is from me. Overall damage was $.50 if I recall correctly. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Olderguy10; 1077042]I have questions for The Camel. With this detailed post on TS, you have labeled yourself as an expert in this area. I have never had a TS because of a couple of concerns. Maybe you can clear the air for me.

1. Security. I am not comfortable leaving my wallet and other stuff in a different room than I am in. What is the procedures with a TS as to where you leave your valuables?

2. The sanitation issue. It is bad enough to sometimes deal with an ASM where they don't always change sheets in between clients. But water breeds bacteria and harbors desease. You talk about the colon and groin getting a good wash with TS. What is done to keep the act sanitary? What is actually used for the rubbing? I hope they don't use a sponge that gets reused. How do they clean the area between clients? Please clue me and other in on this. [/QUOTE]I'm not that much of an expert to answer your questions with authority. I've been mongering for 15 years and I find myself often going on faith when the flesh is weak. As you mentioned, the MP setting offers health concerns not relating to STDs when there is no TS. Anyplace I've been a regular I am confident that my faith is redeemed. I see the girls working hard to sanitize the area before and after a TS just as they do the massage room. Other places I've been, and more often the FS places than the rub and tug places, the TS operation has on occasion seemed shoddy, but not always.

The girls don't use sponges. Most often they use their bare hands for applying body shampoo and scrubbing. Sometimes a wash rag which is of course freshly laundered. Some use something like latex gloves with exfoliating spikes that I am guessing are disposable. Bottom line is I've never been aware of suffering any problem from being a customer of MPs and TS's whenever possible.

I also go on faith when it comes to valuables. They are right there to take when I'm in a TS or regular shower if someone wants to go for it. Nothing has ever happened and my faith is strong in people who are employed at MPs not to rob me if I step out of the room. However, a few of the better "spa" type MPs including the one I'm going to recommend below in response to another post, do have actual locker rooms. They give you a locker and a key and you can store your clothes and valuables accordingly.

[QUOTE=Fiasco26;1075985]Would love some more info on these TS places. Is there any near Torrance / Gardena?[/QUOTE]Try "Natural Spa" at the intersection of Torrance and Hawthorne Blvds. It is a stand alone building planted in a nice mini-mall. This place is as nice as it gets. Elegant would describe it overall. What comes with that is high cost the last time I was there which is more than 1 year. That is if you want to use facilities like table shower. In other places TS is included, here you pay a healthy extra bite to get a TS. The other thing that comes with trying such a nice place is that it is basically legit. A friend on this site reported that pretty much all the reviews on the pay sites say there is no HE. But that was not my experience. I was there to see my no.1 at the time who I had seen regularly in a closed down place in Hollywood. Her name is Tina. She certainly "grandfathered" me and continued without any question to provide HE and also for a few buddies who I recommended her to. So maybe I was just fortunate to be able to leverage a history with the girl. But I also got HE from another masseuse who originally refused. I just urged her on in a nice way and had already established a nice rapport, and she went for it and told me not to tell anybody! So if any of you guys want to try it out, ask for Tina and tell her you were told about her by a regular customer she had when she worked at Vine and Sunset.

[QUOTE=Olderguy10; 1077042]I have questions for The Camel. With this detailed post on TS, you have labeled yourself as an expert in this area. I have never had a TS because of a couple of concerns. Maybe you can clear the air for me.

1. Security. I am not comfortable leaving my wallet and other stuff in a different room than I am in. What is the procedures with a TS as to where you leave your valuables?

2. The sanitation issue. It is bad enough to sometimes deal with an ASM where they don't always change sheets in between clients. But water breeds bacteria and harbors desease. You talk about the colon and groin getting a good wash with TS. What is done to keep the act sanitary? What is actually used for the rubbing? I hope they don't use a sponge that gets reused. How do they clean the area between clients? Please clue me and other in on this. [/QUOTE]I've been doing this for past 10 years, most of it on the East Coast where a TS is the norm. Like Camel said, for the most part, the girl use their bare hands. Other times, the girls use one of those exfoliating sponges (forget what they are called. When I see them soaping that up, I tell them not to use it. The actual table itself is actually not that clean. The girls usually water it down with warm water before you get on it, but that's about it. Maybe they wash it down at the end of the night with soap, but they definitely don't do that in between customers.

I've personally never had any issues with leaving my personals in the other room. Maybe I'm too trustworthy. There's always a rumor that MMS checks your pockets to see if you are LE while you are in the TS. I've purposely placed my wallet in such a way in my pocket to know if someone would have moved it while I was away, but it has never been touched. In addition, I've never had anything stolen from me at an AMP. But then again, I don't have a LE look to me.