Gentlemen,
Anyone have any information on Alexis? She advertises on BP in a couple of different categories for massage.
Much thanks,
502
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Gentlemen,
Anyone have any information on Alexis? She advertises on BP in a couple of different categories for massage.
Much thanks,
502
Went to the "spa" by Western Wear a little while ago. Was greeted by a younger girl, maybe late twenties, attractive and spoke perfect English. Opted for the hour massage, which was strictly legit; the massage was excellent but still a let down. I got the feeling it wasn't always legit, but it was my first time there so maybe that had something to do with it.
502
[quote=amtrak; 1127067]new poster, but long time lurker. i would like to thank the forum for the info provided. i did rttf and haven't asked any questions. i had no trouble finding mings at their old location and enjoyed connie and jo jo's massage services. i also found mings ii through rttf and had lu lu's services as well. i've been to almost all the amp's in anchorage. saw monica at yin's recently. have been to tropic as well and experienced osaka's lousy service. did get nice ts at osaka once, but everything else was bad for price and big upsell. those have all been posted on tirelessly. did see a good mp provider last week who hasn't been posted about at a mp who shall remain undisclosed on the forum. first time seeing her, but did know another provider there and gave personal info about other provider so she would know i was cool. full roaming with top off, suck nips, and dig massage but no fiv / fia. didn't get more than he and tipped 0. 4, but i think more is available when i mentioned bj and she almost considered it, but remember this was first time with her. will try next time. she was happy with 0. 4 and went over by 10-15 min past hour massage as we were laughing, having a good time, as well as a good massage. she swore me to secrecy while in the room and on the way out about he, but very cool and we laughed a lot as we talked about other provider. to much le pressure on the mp's lately. not sure why as they are not contributing to the crack ho's rather taking money from the crack ho's, not raising the crime rate, not ****, and no trafficking. confirmed by the recent anchorage / fbi non-bust as i call it. didn't find **** or trafficking. won't rant on as le reading this won't get them to stop. lol. anyway, not giving this out to the whole forum and le who reads it. only super senior members can pm me about this one to establish some street cred. and i expect them not to blab to everyone on pm as le most certainly has infiltrated the anchorage forum. they wouldn't be doing their job if they hadn't and were just reading it. after all, they probably like to see the pics too. i did say i would keep it on the down low and i don't want to see her busted. even if i give it out to some, ymmv. no guarantees. i don't think i would have gotten more than a massage on first time if i hadn't previously seen the other provider. she was cautious and it took more than just a name. it's all in the personal details not available on the forum. the forum is just a guidebook, you have to do the exploring yourself. all the above was just a dream a friend of mine told me about that he had. any pm is what my friend told me. he gave me permission to use i in the first person rather than constantly refer to him.
amtrak[/quote]thanks, but any chance you could separate your thoughts into proper paragraph structure. not to nitpick, but your post reads like the last crackhead that hit me up for money talked, which is to say, like verbal diarrhea. appreciate your contribution, but way too much of a chore to read.
[QUOTE=Cash907;1127483]Thanks, but any chance you could separate your thoughts into proper paragraph structure. Not to nitpick, but your post reads like the last crackhead that hit me up for money talked, which is to say, like verbal diarrhea. Appreciate your contribution, but way too much of a chore to read.[/QUOTE]No problem. First time posting. Didn't know it would read like that on the page when posted. Will use more paragraphs next time.
[QUOTE=Amtrak;1127549]No problem. First time posting. Didn't know it would read like that on the page when posted. Will use more paragraphs next time.[/QUOTE]No problem man. Welcome to the board.
Rachel is gone on vacation for three weeks. I will miss her!
[QUOTE=Ak502; 1127387]Gentlemen,
Anyone have any information on Alexis? She advertises on BP in a couple of different categories for massage.
Much thanks,
502[/QUOTE]I've seen Alexis a couple of times. Latina, big tits, and ample bubble booty. Two thumbs up.
Stay safe and check six.
Jessica and Monica are working at Yin's. Jenny left.
Jessica: spinner, petite, great massage, friendly.
Monica: great body, tall for Chinese, friendly, bit older. Good massage, friendly
Newbie here. Thanks for the 411 here, it helps to keep old Skeeter out of trouble. I am willing to TOFTT if I get a heads up on new talent. Just looking for a reason to post and give some info back to anyone thats interested.
Does anyone have a line on where the Fairbanks St. AMP relocated to? I'd appreciate a PM with the info. Thanks.
Stay safe and check six.
OK, so I had this debate with myself whether I should tell anyone about this great Dream I had. Since this board has been helpful to me, I guess it's time to reciprocate.
I had this dream that I was ready to party, couldn't get hold of any of my regulars. So, I thought I'd pay a visit to Mings II and see either Jenny or Lulu. Instead there is a new gal by the name of Cindy. She's probably in her late 30's, HWP, cute, speaks fairly good english. I'm not one to kiss and tell, but this was one of the most amazing experiences at an AMP that I've ever had. This gal, besides giving me a great massage, turned me inside out and made my toes curl. She was attentive to my every need, want and desire.
This is her first time here and has been here only for a week. Treat her nice boys, so she'll come back.
[QUOTE=Liplicker; 1140554]OK, so I had this debate with myself whether I should tell anyone about this great Dream I had. Since this board has been helpful to me, I guess it's time to reciprocate.
I had this dream that I was ready to party, couldn't get hold of any of my regulars. So, I thought I'd pay a visit to Mings II and see either Jenny or Lulu. Instead there is a new gal by the name of Cindy. She's probably in her late 30's, HWP, cute, speaks fairly good english. I'm not one to kiss and tell, but this was one of the most amazing experiences at an AMP that I've ever had. This gal, besides giving me a great massage, turned me inside out and made my toes curl. She was attentive to my every need, want and desire.
This is her first time here and has been here only for a week. Treat her nice boys, so she'll come back. [/QUOTE]Magoo agrees. She's a GFE for sure, very accommodating, and eager to please. But a bit thick for an asain. Cute tattooed tit with a matching one on her tummy / pelvis. Two thumbs up all considered.
Be safe. Magoo
Anyone know if Rachel is back at Tropic yet? Eh, I'll just call and stop being so damn lazy.
Did Mings close? Drove by there the other day and no more sign and all the shades were up. Tried hitting up Mings II, but apparently my luck was still on the outs as she was sick.
I did have a dream about going to Yins and had a nice time with Jessica. Been a while since I dreamed about that place and I think it showed, though she was attentive in my dream, the dream didn't include all options. Oh well. Maybe I'll get lucky and dream about it again.
Stay safe.
Jerard
[QUOTE=Jerard; 1141316]Did Mings close? Drove by there the other day and no more sign and all the shades were up. Tried hitting up Mings II, but apparently my luck was still on the outs as she was sick.
I did have a dream about going to Yins and had a nice time with Jessica. Been a while since I dreamed about that place and I think it showed, though she was attentive in my dream, the dream didn't include all options. Oh well. Maybe I'll get lucky and dream about it again.
Stay safe.
Jerard[/QUOTE]Yes my friend. Mings had been closed since summer of 2010.
[QUOTE=Cash907;1141085]Anyone know if Rachel is back at Tropic yet? Eh, I'll just call and stop being so damn lazy.[/QUOTE]Or so I was told. Will see later.
Went to Yins and got Lisa. Went with. 6 for the hour. First time with her, but she was receptive. Allowed me to suckle at the twins. They rose to their peaks and she seemed to enjoy it.
Then did dig massage and she was already very wet. After a couple minutes, she had her nut and then I also with her nice HJ. She didn't answer the phone and only went out of the room to get hot towels. Got 45-50 min total. I like her better than Monica, but YMMV. Not sure if anything else is on the menu though as she didn't like FIV.
All in all, pretty good for first time with her. May repeat. Only downside was I gave. 4 tip and she asked for a little more. I told her that was good and she didn't object. She saw I had more money.
Question for the forum. Her service was better than some who I gave a. 4 tip, but she did get $ total. Heard they get half of house, so she got. 7 incl. Tip. Am I being a cheapskate? I think. 4 should be the standard and include extras if the end is only a HE. Do we reward those who don't upsell, don't answer the telephone, and give a couple extras to make us more relaxed? IMO, that should be standard service so a standard tip. They want you to be a happy customer so you come back to them.
I can afford more, but don't want to overpay either. I'm sure she is pulling in more than what some mongers earn and it is all in cash. The most I've paid for a BBBJCIM from a SW in Anchorage is. 3 and most of the time. 2 total. I'm willing to pay more for the convenience of an AMP and less risk, but not willing to overpay and drive up costs.
I recently went to another AMP and she wanted. 8 tip just for a HJ with no extras. Talked her down to. 4 or nothing. She agreed to. 4 but wasn't happy about it. (As a side note, I did end up getting extras after she said I was taking too long, hehehe. Had to do it with her lousy attitude. Yes, it was Osaka.). At least Lisa just asked if I'd tip her and didn't specify an amount.
I agree we need to keep the places in business, but at what cost? There must be those who overpay, if some can quote. 8 tip and expect you to pay it just for a HJ.
Food for thought,
Amtrak
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1144411]Yes my friend. Mings had been closed since summer of 2010.[/QUOTE]Thanks Vitrea. Been out of the game for a bit. Sad to see Mings go. I did stop by Tropic recently and saw Gina / Jeanna (sp). Spinner, ok massage. Table shower was nice, but extras were a bit pricey. Not sure if I'll go back. For those wondering about Rachael, she's still out. I think it'll be another week till she's back.
Stay Safe.
Jerard
[QUOTE=Jerard; 1144885]Thanks Vitrea. Been out of the game for a bit. Sad to see Mings go. I did stop by Tropic recently and saw Gina / Jeanna (sp). Spinner, ok massage. Table shower was nice, but extras were a bit pricey. Not sure if I'll go back. For those wondering about Rachael, she's still out. I think it'll be another week till she's back.
Stay Safe.
Jerard[/QUOTE]Crap. Thats a hell of a long "3 week" vacation she's been on. Wish she would hurry up and come back.
[QUOTE=Amtrak; 1144847]Went to Yins and got Lisa. Went with. 6 for the hour. First time with her, but she was receptive. Allowed me to suckle at the twins. They rose to their peaks and she seemed to enjoy it.
Then did dig massage and she was already very wet. After a couple minutes, she had her nut and then I also with her nice HJ. She didn't answer the phone and only went out of the room to get hot towels. Got 45-50 min total. I like her better than Monica, but YMMV. Not sure if anything else is on the menu though as she didn't like FIV.
All in all, pretty good for first time with her. May repeat. Only downside was I gave. 4 tip and she asked for a little more. I told her that was good and she didn't object. She saw I had more money.
Question for the forum. Her service was better than some who I gave a. 4 tip, but she did get $ total. Heard they get half of house, so she got. 7 incl. Tip. Am I being a cheapskate? I think. 4 should be the standard and include extras if the end is only a HE. Do we reward those who don't upsell, don't answer the telephone, and give a couple extras to make us more relaxed? IMO, that should be standard service so a standard tip. They want you to be a happy customer so you come back to them.
I can afford more, but don't want to overpay either. I'm sure she is pulling in more than what some mongers earn and it is all in cash. The most I've paid for a BBBJCIM from a SW in Anchorage is. 3 and most of the time. 2 total. I'm willing to pay more for the convenience of an AMP and less risk, but not willing to overpay and drive up costs.
I recently went to another AMP and she wanted. 8 tip just for a HJ with no extras. Talked her down to. 4 or nothing. She agreed to. 4 but wasn't happy about it. (As a side note, I did end up getting extras after she said I was taking too long, hehehe. Had to do it with her lousy attitude. Yes, it was Osaka.). At least Lisa just asked if I'd tip her and didn't specify an amount.
I agree we need to keep the places in business, but at what cost? There must be those who overpay, if some can quote. 8 tip and expect you to pay it just for a HJ.
Food for thought,
Amtrak[/QUOTE]Whoa! I sincerely and absolutely doubt that these AMP girls are getting half of the house fee. I think that is extremely unlikely. My belief is that they get nothing. Their income is the tips they get. Period. The owners of these businesses are not about to share their profits with the girls for let's face it these girls are not exactly treated well by these owners. Many of these girls are brought in from out of state with contracts for working a specified time. And do they work! Most of them work 12 hours a day minimum (or at least are available 12 hrs) 7 days a week for months at a time. There are no days off. At Mings I or II the girls were always there unless they were out of state. Recently I asked Rachel what her days off were and she just laughed telling me she is there every day. Every few months a girl leaves "on vacation" for a month or so and then returns if she wants to come back. I really don't know how some of them do it. It must be exhausting after awhile. BUT. The money is a great incentive for them for otherwise they are probably living at the poverty level. The job is their way out. But their money comes from tips. I have given. 4 at times too but it was because the service was lousy. There is no way I am going to give a quality girl a low ball tip. It just doesn't pay off for the next time, the service will be dismal. I have found that if you treat a quality girl well she will return the favor with a smile. I go to AMPs to have a positive experience not a negative one. If you are good to the good girls you will get the results you are looking for. If you are cheap with them then they will be cheap with you.
[QUOTE=Amtrak; 1144847]Went to Yins and got Lisa. Went with. 6 for the hour. First time with her, but she was receptive. Allowed me to suckle at the twins. They rose to their peaks and she seemed to enjoy it.
Then did dig massage and she was already very wet. After a couple minutes, she had her nut and then I also with her nice HJ. She didn't answer the phone and only went out of the room to get hot towels. Got 45-50 min total. I like her better than Monica, but YMMV. Not sure if anything else is on the menu though as she didn't like FIV.
All in all, pretty good for first time with her. May repeat. Only downside was I gave. 4 tip and she asked for a little more. I told her that was good and she didn't object. She saw I had more money.
Question for the forum. Her service was better than some who I gave a. 4 tip, but she did get $ total. Heard they get half of house, so she got. 7 incl. Tip. Am I being a cheapskate? I think. 4 should be the standard and include extras if the end is only a HE. Do we reward those who don't upsell, don't answer the telephone, and give a couple extras to make us more relaxed? IMO, that should be standard service so a standard tip. They want you to be a happy customer so you come back to them.
I can afford more, but don't want to overpay either. I'm sure she is pulling in more than what some mongers earn and it is all in cash. The most I've paid for a BBBJCIM from a SW in Anchorage is. 3 and most of the time. 2 total. I'm willing to pay more for the convenience of an AMP and less risk, but not willing to overpay and drive up costs.
I recently went to another AMP and she wanted. 8 tip just for a HJ with no extras. Talked her down to. 4 or nothing. She agreed to. 4 but wasn't happy about it. (As a side note, I did end up getting extras after she said I was taking too long, hehehe. Had to do it with her lousy attitude. Yes, it was Osaka.). At least Lisa just asked if I'd tip her and didn't specify an amount.
I agree we need to keep the places in business, but at what cost? There must be those who overpay, if some can quote. 8 tip and expect you to pay it just for a HJ.
Food for thought,
Amtrak[/QUOTE]Good points. I would have given her. 6 tip. I give. 4 for HE only. You got that and you tickled the twins and attempted FIV. That is a bit more invasive. .
[QUOTE=Cobalt Blue;1145154]Whoa! I sincerely and absolutely doubt that these AMP girls are getting half of the house fee. I think that is extremely unlikely. My belief is that they get nothing. Their income is the tips they get. Period. The owners of these businesses are not about to share their profits with the girls for let's face it these girls are not exactly treated well by these owners. Many of these girls are brought in from out of state with contracts for working a specified time. And do they work! Most of them work 12 hours a day minimum (or at least are available 12 hrs) 7 days a week for months at a time. There are no days off. At Mings I or II the girls were always there unless they were out of state. Recently I asked Rachel what her days off were and she just laughed telling me she is there every day. Every few months a girl leaves "on vacation" for a month or so and then returns if she wants to come back. I really don't know how some of them do it. It must be exhausting after awhile. BUT. The money is a great incentive for them for otherwise they are probably living at the poverty level. The job is their way out. But their money comes from tips. I have given. 4 at times too but it was because the service was lousy. There is no way I am going to give a quality girl a low ball tip. It just doesn't pay off for the next time, the service will be dismal. I have found that if you treat a quality girl well she will return the favor with a smile. I go to AMPs to have a positive experience not a negative one. If you are good to the good girls you will get the results you are looking for. If you are cheap with them then they will be cheap with you.[/QUOTE]Agree with everything you said except for one. I disagree that they get nothing of the massage money. I don't know the exact percentage but I know first hand from the girls that they get some. Also, if they get nothing they would give you a lousy massage and show displeasure when you ask for one hour massage. My observation is that 90% of girls do not mind if you get one hour massages. If they get no cut, I can't see that happening.
BTW, I totally agree that we should not be cheapskates. If I know the girl gives good service and I am low on cash, then I only get 30 min massage so I have. 6 left for tip.
[QUOTE=Amtrak; 1144847]The most I've paid for a BBBJCIM from a SW in Anchorage is. 3 and most of the time. 2 total. I'm willing to pay more for the convenience of an AMP and less risk, but not willing to overpay and drive up costs.
I agree we need to keep the places in business, but at what cost? There must be those who overpay, if some can quote. 8 tip and expect you to pay it just for a HJ.
Food for thought,
Amtrak[/QUOTE]While I agree that paying more than what is deserved is the sign of a true mark, you can't apply the same economics to an AMP girl as you would an SW. While I'm still but a babe in the big wild world of AMP's, I've never come across an SW that looked good enough to work indoors. That's like going to Club Paris, and demanding Golden Corral prices. Ain't happening, and you look like a cheapskate and a jackass if you honestly think it should. I've learned that when it comes to this world, the best service comes from repeat business. If you get labeled as "that cheap bastard" by the girls, well, you can pretty much guess the level of service you'll be receiving anytime you visit. I'm not going to slight you if that's how you want to roll, but in the long run, you're really just shooting yourself in the foot to save a couple bucks.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1145475]Good points. I would have given her. 6 tip. I give. 4 for HE only. You got that and you tickled the twins and attempted FIV. That is a bit more invasive. .[/QUOTE]Agree. The standard is. 4 HE only, .6 for BJ or anything between that and HE (including lots of groping), & 1 FS. Tip to these standards and occasionally .2 more if you like them. Refuse if any more than that for the sake of the rest of us mongers. If you don't plan on returning, your call on the tip. Like anything else, take care of them and they will do you right. Otherwise, expect poor service.
Magoo
[QUOTE=Mr Magoo2; 1145703]Agree. The standard is. 4 HE only, .6 for BJ or anything between that and HE (including lots of groping) , & 1 FS. Tip to these standards and occasionally. 2 more if you like them. Refuse if any more than that for the sake of the rest of us mongers. If you don't plan on returning, your call on the tip. Like anything else, take care of them and they will do you right. Otherwise, expect poor service.
Magoo[/QUOTE]Thanks everyone for the replies. Nice to see the board more active. I now know to tip a little more next time. I guess she was right when she said a little more. I did RTFF but wasn't sure on local tipping and knew. 4 was standard HE tip so that is what I tipped. I'd be willing to pay. 6 for BBBJCIM, but haven't found one to do it yet. Lowest quote I got was $ for CBJ. Business must have been good because she wasn't budging.
Other AMP girls have said they do get partial house fee and also do some massages under the table and keep the house fee when they are the only provider at the time without mamasan. They just say it was slow.
Amtrak
[QUOTE=Amtrak; 1146786]Thanks everyone for the replies. Nice to see the board more active. I now know to tip a little more next time. I guess she was right when she said a little more. I did RTFF but wasn't sure on local tipping and knew. 4 was standard HE tip so that is what I tipped. I'd be willing to pay. 6 for BBBJCIM, but haven't found one to do it yet. Lowest quote I got was $ for CBJ. Business must have been good because she wasn't budging.
Other AMP girls have said they do get partial house fee and also do some massages under the table and keep the house fee when they are the only provider at the time without mamasan. They just say it was slow.
Amtrak[/QUOTE]Board is more active because we are finally getting some outside talent coming through again. It's always dead right after the holidays, but picks back up around Rondy. I think it's mostly because of airline ticket prices, as January is a horrible time to fly to or from Alaska. Add that to the fact everyone is broke after over extending themselves on gifts and parties, and there isn't a whole lot of incentive to travel here.
Anchorage backpage new ad. Can anybody I'd the talent in the pictures?
[url]http://anchorage.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-management-high-quality-luxury-asian-girls-27/2529106[/url]
[QUOTE=SkeeterBate; 1152420]Anchorage backpage new ad. Can anybody I'd the talent in the pictures?
[url]http://anchorage.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-management-high-quality-luxury-asian-girls-27/2529106[/url]
[/QUOTE]No reviews + new ad during high police activity = AVOID
Gentlemen,
I am getting wiser. Poorer. But wiser. Do not hand over any amount of $ before terms are agreed upon. 2nd time this has happened so I am sure this is a strategy that pays off for the AMP girls. I have no issue with the house fee. Its the extras that seem to start at $$ everywhere. My attempt at negotiations fails. It seems that when they hold my (insert anatomy part here) I will evidently do anything (almost) to relieve the tension. Go figure. Soooooo without further discussion I pay something less than the desired amount and low and behold I receive less than the desired services. It seems that a fool and his money. Well no more, No Sir-Ree, I am going to implement a different approach. So please. Someone send me their tried and true tactics for getting the desired service, but not paying too much. I am willing to tip. But only after a job well done! I would settle for a half ass job at this point!
Given Magoo's near disaster Valley meth head encounter and a yearning for something different, Magoo followed the advice of you guys and paid a first-time visit to the awesome, killer, hard body Korean spinner Rachel. This is just another example of the quality of the information provided by the board as Magoo has a new AMP ATF! Or maybe it was just a dream. It's hard to tell in retrospect!
Thanks, and be safe boys.
Magoo
[QUOTE=Mr Magoo2; 1153814]Given Magoo's near disaster Valley meth head encounter and a yearning for something different, Magoo followed the advice of you guys and paid a first-time visit to the awesome, killer, hard body Korean spinner Rachel. This is just another example of the quality of the information provided by the board as Magoo has a new AMP ATF! Or maybe it was just a dream. It's hard to tell in retrospect!
Thanks, and be safe boys.
Magoo[/QUOTE]Rachel is back?
Cue the roadrunner MEEP MEEP and dust cloud.
[QUOTE=SkeeterBate; 1153725]Gentlemen,
I am getting wiser. Poorer. But wiser. Do not hand over any amount of $ before terms are agreed upon. 2nd time this has happened so I am sure this is a strategy that pays off for the AMP girls. I have no issue with the house fee. Its the extras that seem to start at $$ everywhere. My attempt at negotiations fails. It seems that when they hold my (insert anatomy part here) I will evidently do anything (almost) to relieve the tension. Go figure. Soooooo without further discussion I pay something less than the desired amount and low and behold I receive less than the desired services. It seems that a fool and his money. Well no more, No Sir-Ree, I am going to implement a different approach. So please. Someone send me their tried and true tactics for getting the desired service, but not paying too much. I am willing to tip. But only after a job well done! I would settle for a half ass job at this point! [/QUOTE]It's like bargaining for anything else. You have to be willing to put your pants back on and walk out the door. No anger required. No histrionics. Just calmly collect your gear and yourself and head for the door. Either you will be called back and they will strike a deal with you, or they will lose your money. Their business can't be that damned good.
LexLuther
So how does one approach "additional" services at the massage place? Especially to show that you are not an LE? Turn around on the table then chat about tip? Just wondering how to approach that subject.
[QUOTE=Mikeak01;1154117]So how does one approach "additional" services at the massage place? Especially to show that you are not an LE? Turn around on the table then chat about tip? Just wondering how to approach that subject.[/QUOTE]This scenario assumes that they do not know you and this is your first time at a place.
#1) Ask if they have a table shower (even if you know that they don't have)
#2) No table shower, ask if they have a regular shower. If they do, take one.
#3) Lay down on the table fresh out of the shower ready for a nice butt massage.
If you are at a professional place with no extras you will be offered a towel or thrown out. At this point they know you are not LE. They either give extras or not and most guys are not going to be able to charm someone into giving extras if they are not going to. No "approach" needed. Do not bring up the issue of "tip" and if she brings up, be reasonable. Don't be cheap or overly generous. Be fair.
[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1154496]This scenario assumes that they do not know you and this is your first time at a place.
#1) Ask if they have a table shower (even if you know that they don't have)
#2) No table shower, ask if they have a regular shower. If they do, take one.
#3) Lay down on the table fresh out of the shower ready for a nice butt massage.
If you are at a professional place with no extras you will be offered a towel or thrown out. At this point they know you are not LE. They either give extras or not and most guys are not going to be able to charm someone into giving extras if they are not going to. No "approach" needed. Do not bring up the issue of "tip" and if she brings up, be reasonable. Don't be cheap or overly generous. Be fair. [/QUOTE]I'm not sure this really addresses the original question. It does go a long way, but sort of stops short. So here it is guys. Take notes. The towel itself does go a long way of establishing trust or the lack thereof.
If a towel or other draping is offered and you reject it, it would seem to indicate that you are neither LE nor some other arm of "the establishment" seeking to catch the "establishment" in a moment when they have violated some code or other so their freedom or license can be stripped of them or so they can be fined in some way.
If the "establishment" does not insist that you keep covered, that can be taken by you as a sign that they might be open to "extras." Therefore, the next move, once again, is yours. During the first part of the massage, when the masseuse gets around to massaging your inner thighs or your arse, I always like to spread my legs wider so as to put the least amount of obstacle in her way of getting around to touching my genitials. Often this will do the trick. If not, then when the masseuse is in a convenient position, I will move play along by placing one of my hands on her inner thighs or on her arse. This outgt soon to prove to her (if she needs further proof at this point) that I am truly not LE. And in any case, since I have made the first tentative move away from what would be considered a "normal massage", she should know that she has nothing to fear from touching me in any of my erogenous areas. So no it's a game of further tit for tat. Eventually I am going to try to slip a hand up onder her chamise, then under her bra, or under her short shorts, if that is what she is wearing, or down her pants.
So by now both of us will know what the game is. No in some locales or markets, I will not need to play such games. The provider should have proven to herself by now what and who I am. Many providers whose first time around the circuit it is not, will often simply disrobe. For others it may take some prodding by me. A tug downward of the pajama bottoms or thong if they are so attired should do the trick. At that point, many will just know they are safe and will do what comes next without ever resorting to negotiations over money. These women often behave in this way because in some jurisdictions, to begin haggling over remunerations will immediately land them in jail, although that is stupid. Having myself instigated the negotiations can hardly be considered blameless in the transaction. Nevertheless that is how it is done in some juristictions. So these women would then just do whatever seemed allowable to them by me, the customer.
In such cases, they are relying on me to pay whatever I know the going rate is in that area for that act. If I am abstemious, then next time they will either see me again and do the same thing for the same (presumable) remuneration, or they will not see me at al. Believe me, these gals have good memories.
But in some jurisdictions, they might negotiate before going further. Either way, this is where your knowledge gained her comes in. You know what is normal, traditional, acceptable. For instance, if you know that in your market some misguided blokes pay $200 + house fee for full service, than that is what you should pay or negotiate for. Don't try to screw the girl by giving $50 for what is worth $100 or by negotiation for $50. Just give her what she is due and don't embarrass either of yourselves.
So, Two Dogs Fucking, any othe questions. .
LexLuther
Thanks guys appreciate the info.
Now I just need some phone numbers if I end up having to get bailed out.
When you call this new AMP in midtown the mamasan that answered didn't sound asian to me. But she quickly recovered and went over the services with me over the phone. One hr =.8 but you are expected to tip, she mentioned that I would have discuss this with the girl. Just wondering if anyone has tried this new provider from the BP.
Still looking.
Skeeter
[QUOTE=SkeeterBate; 1158350]When you call this new AMP in midtown the mamasan that answered didn't sound asian to me. But she quickly recovered and went over the services with me over the phone. One hr =.8 but you are expected to tip, she mentioned that I would have discuss this with the girl. Just wondering if anyone has tried this new provider from the BP.
Still looking.
Skeeter[/QUOTE]Are you talking about the new one with the headline "Grend Opening" and the out of state number? Yeah too shady for my blood. If someone else wants to scope it out, more power too 'them, but I'm going to hang back myself.
Not recommended bad service, over priced, rushed, massage was lacking in every way and lady giving massage was very rude. Sadly I expected more at the start things looked promising but, every aspect of the service was rushed and lethargic.
Made it down to the big city for a visit last week and went for my first visit to see Rachel and first time at Tropic. 80 at the door for massage. Mamason said it would be a 10 minute wait then Rachel came into the room and told me 30. Ended up being 45 but I was not in a hurry so waited. Started with table shower, not bad, I was clean from head to toe when we were finished then spent a couple minutes in the sauna. Went to the room and started the massage. I enjoy the message part of the visit but have to say this was pretty lack luster compared to others I've seen in town. After some mutual touching I decided to go for the full treatment. I am 5'11 and fit, use a magnum condom, but am by no means huge. From the beginning she kept her legs squeezed to prevent me from going in too deep and made faces and noises like I was causing her discomfort though I was very gentle. I asked her if she was Ok several times and she said yes. Anyways I made it quick due to the circumstances. Nice girl, killer body. She said she will be gone this week then back in May. I might give her another try as I may have caught her on a bad day, but we'll see. Still think Tina was the best when she was at Mings a few years ago.
If anyone has info on Lucy that advertises on NNL and could send me a PM with details I'd appreciate it.