To expand this discussion a bit....
There will always be "high dollar hotties" (to use a term from another board)
and these will ALWAYS have rates that are not for the faint of heart.
To use a few examples....
Cody Lane -- a "porn star" who did a few BangBros web movies ads for $1k/hr
(which is more than she made per episode shooting with BangBros since they
pay on avg. $850/day)
Starr in Dayton $500/hr
Candy Kemp $900/2hrs with a 2 hr minimum
The fact is this, price will always be what the market will bear, so if the lady
is considered to be a premium product for some reason (skills, appearance,
particular service) she will either be successful in that market or need to
lower her rate to what the market will bear.
The fact that we don't "like" the rate has no bearing as the rate has been set
based on either the desired clientle or the number of appointments desired per month.
(One has to remember that for some of the ladies the money they
make is their "mad money", not something they need to live on).
It is also not unusual for a name or physical appearance to draw a higher rate
which is not reflected in the quality of service or skill set and I hate to use the car example,
but in many ways it fits. To use an example here, the Cadillac Catera was basically a Chevy Cavalier
with more bells and whistles,the cost was higher but the reliability was lower than the Cavalier.
What needs to be accepted on this board is that the forum covers a wide
price and service range which begins with the SW at $20 and extends all the way to the higher dollar ladies.
We as customers have no direct control over a lady's rate, only they do.
[QUOTE=Todd Cincy]****"She is smoking hot, therefore, she should charge a little higher...."****
A "little higher" would be one thing....More than twice the market rate is another. I mean, $675...??? That is a *lot* of money.
Keep in mind that I have no power over Ms. Winston's rates, nor do I seek to exercise such power. I am merely airing my views as a consumer of local adult services.
****"Or would you rather have a drug free, classy, sexy woman, that you obviously could not get if she (we) didn't offer our selves up to you!"*****
Yes---I want that---but not at all costs. Once the price rises beyond a certain point, hobbyists will bow out of the market, or restrict their consumption to the point where few ladies are getting much business.
The system works best when we all remember that we rely on mutual benefits here.
It may be true to say that I "could not get" some of the hotter, younger ladies if they didn't "offer themselves up" as providers. I benefit from the services of these ladies, no question about it.
However, it is *also* true to say that some of these same ladies would have trouble replacing their current incomes as providers if we hobbyists didn't open our wallets. There aren't many professionals out there who make $200~$300 per hour--especially tax-free. A top-flight corporate attorney might make that much, but most accountants, engineers, and corporate employees don't don't clear anywhere near that much per hour.
The pricing arrangement should not be exploitive in either direction, or the market will collapse. If hobbyists collectively decided that they weren't willing to pay more than $40, the market would collapse because few ladies would be willing to work as providers at that price.
Likewise, hourly rates of $675 are not sustainable....no matter how hot the woman is. If prices ever rose to this level, I would either go back to the wonderful world of conventional dating, do without, or try some alternative arrangement (like one of the sugar daddy dating sites). But I would never pay that much....and I think a lot of the guys here would agree with me.[/QUOTE]
Many business models for this hobby
There are many business models that I have witnessed over the years. The high end/ low turnover model which started the debate clearly isn't working quite as well as it once did or there wouldn't be an alternative menu.
Each provider must select the model that meets there needs and which they can reasonably hope to maintain. In every business model the pricing of he competition is clearly a major consideration- but not the only one.
It's all supply and demand- econ 101. Nobody should be criticized for their pricing. If its wrong the market will tell her. Now if she were to run a special and found that her bottom line increased without significantly increased costs (including depreciation of the primary asset due to overuse) then a smart provider would modify her business plan.
[QUOTE=WarlockKy]There will always be "high dollar hotties" (to use a term from another board)
and these will ALWAYS have rates that are not for the faint of heart.
To use a few examples....
Cody Lane -- a "porn star" who did a few BangBros web movies ads for $1k/hr
(which is more than she made per episode shooting with BangBros since they
pay on avg. $850/day)
Starr in Dayton $500/hr
Candy Kemp $900/2hrs with a 2 hr minimum
The fact is this, price will always be what the market will bear, so if the lady
is considered to be a premium product for some reason (skills, appearance,
particular service) she will either be successful in that market or need to
lower her rate to what the market will bear.
The fact that we don't "like" the rate has no bearing as the rate has been set
based on either the desired clientle or the number of appointments desired per month.
(One has to remember that for some of the ladies the money they
make is their "mad money", not something they need to live on).
It is also not unusual for a name or physical appearance to draw a higher rate
which is not reflected in the quality of service or skill set and I hate to use the car example,
but in many ways it fits. To use an example here, the Cadillac Catera was basically a Chevy Cavalier
with more bells and whistles,the cost was higher but the reliability was lower than the Cavalier.
What needs to be accepted on this board is that the forum covers a wide
price and service range which begins with the SW at $20 and extends all the way to the higher dollar ladies.
We as customers have no direct control over a lady's rate, only they do.[/QUOTE]
Scammed but learned a lesson
Well first off, brush up on the 22 points in mongering. Secondly not checking the situation out, and goin in haphazardly was a big mistake. I always stand by the door and listen and look for obvious signs things may go down. Granted I have been lucky, but I'm a big well built dude which may have helped sway a would be scam. Nervousness is a big telltale sign to people that you may be an easy target. The lesson learned, is to be more cautious, and be more like me, either I establish a great rapport with a provider or I go strictly by other reviews. And I always do research before I meet anyone. Just my two cents worth.
[QUOTE=Tickle Pickle]I recently joined this site and contacted a "provider" that posted an ad on this site. She is a BBw that goes by the name princess smith. She not only lied about her weight and weighs at least 50 more then she claimed but robbed me for 150 bucks. After meeting with her a man walked in and told me if I handed over all my money I wouldn't be hurt. They even took my cellphone! I am new to all this and was too embarrassed to contact police! Has anyone else had a simliar experience? How do I prevent this from happening again?[/QUOTE]