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[QUOTE=Emiglio;5410635]Looked everywhere? Does anyone know what CW allowed, and no ss. Means? I e mailed the model, but as I expected, " I do not discuss this in e mail. " She was kind enough to at least reply.[/QUOTE]SS = Stripper Slide, rubbing her bare pussy up & down you bare dick.
CW = Don't know. Only guessing CoWgirl? Most would say CG.
[QUOTE=Emiglio;5410635]Looked everywhere? Does anyone know what CW allowed, and no ss. Means? I e mailed the model, but as I expected, " I do not discuss this in e mail. " She was kind enough to at least reply.[/QUOTE]Saw CW on another site & it finally clicked. "Cock Worship", if you want a long drawn out BJ, where worshiping your cock, and not just getting you off is the priority.
[QUOTE=LeeOskar;5418495]Saw CW on another site & it finally clicked. "Cock Worship", if you want a long drawn out BJ, where worshiping your cock, and not just getting you off is the priority.[/QUOTE]Thanks Lee, it was driving me crazy.
[QUOTE=SuburbGuy96;5236719]Is anyone aware or has anyone experienced TER not accepting online payment for a membership? There is reviews I would like to read but cannot gain access. Have tried several cards.[/QUOTE]You might want to get a VPN or something. I think they passed some laws that prevented folks in the US to view but I think they reversed their course. Check with your bank too. I think TER uses a payment company that is foreign so your bank might think its fraud.
[URL]https://chicago.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/naperville/9694974.html[/URL] I was trolling through the ad's on BedPage today and I almost pissed my pants. The old ad's with the almost naked Asian models are gone. The ad's are now posted like something from a dating site. It has an obvious fake photo and then goes on with this total BS bio. The bio's are epic and whoever is writing them should get a huge pay raise. One bio had that the woman liked puppies and pizza etc. If you have been to an AMP you cleary know that these bio's were not written by the women. If you want a good laugh go to BedPage and read a few of these. SaintChuck.
I saw those, very funny.
[QUOTE=SaintChuck;5480141][URL]https://chicago.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/naperville/9694974.html[/URL] I was trolling through the ad's on BedPage today and I almost pissed my pants. The old ad's with the almost naked Asian models are gone. The ad's are now posted like something from a dating site. It has an obvious fake photo and then goes on with this total BS bio. The bio's are epic and whoever is writing them should get a huge pay raise. One bio had that the woman liked puppies and pizza etc. If you have been to an AMP you cleary know that these bio's were not written by the women. If you want a good laugh go to BedPage and read a few of these. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]
The last two spas I have been to in the last couple of weeks seem to have MTs with GPS. Both have offered "I kiss you and you kiss me" for $. I am not interested in this especially for $. Both massages were subpar. All I want is a good massage with a happy ending. What is happening with the MTs.
Its BS is what it is. Unfortunately the reason this has become so bad is some mongers pay them for it and all it takes is one monger to pay. I had an old granny try and get 40 out of me for just massage. I said your getting a massage tip only. I had another tell me she wanted 80 for a handy since I roamed UTC a little. I said no way. The only way to stop it is to say no and stop giving them business. I saw that happen once where the parlor actually closed because the ladies were such jack asses.
[QUOTE=Ddaavvee1;5528102]The last two spas I have been to in the last couple of weeks seem to have MTs with GPS. Both have offered "I kiss you and you kiss me" for $. I am not interested in this especially for $. Both massages were subpar. All I want is a good massage with a happy ending. What is happening with the MTs.[/QUOTE]
Did you ever worry that something would happen when visiting an AMP that would force you out in the public? Like a raid, getting questioned by Uncle LEO in the parking lot, a provider going nuts and giving you a black eye?
Well, mine was not nearly so dramatic, and I think I'm going to get away with it. Here's the story.
A couple days ago I'm visiting a west suburban spa in a strip mall. All done, I walk out and get in my car, start her up, check everywhere and back out of my parking spot. I put it in Drive, just in time to hear Bang. Look in the rear view mirror and there is an SUV, stopped right behind me. Oh damn. I get out, and he gets out, then his wife.
"Are you OK?" Yes, everyone is fine. We look at our cars. His SUV shows not a damn thing. My sedan has two scratches and a minor gash. He's apologizing, she's apologizing. I assure them it is OK, that the marks were there before (they weren't) and to not worry about it and have a nice day. I don't think they noticed that I was leaving an AMP, or that they knew what one was. Well, the guy probably did, maybe not his wife.
So my better half hasn't noticed yet. I figure the longer it takes her to notice, the better off I'll be because I can claim I don't know what happened or when.
Still, this sucks. If he had insisted on filing a report, I'd be in Creative Writing 101.
"Yeah honey, I was just driving around in a 'burb 30 miles from our house with no real purpose. Just bored, ya know? I saw a liquor store in a strip mall and decided to stop in and see if they had any of that 10 year old Chardonnay you like so much. And then Bam! Out of no where this guy hits me. ".
[QUOTE=SamSpade;5571928]Did you ever worry that something would happen when visiting an AMP that would force you out in the public? Like a raid, getting questioned by Uncle LEO in the parking lot, a provider going nuts and giving you a black eye?
Well, mine was not nearly so dramatic, and I think I'm going to get away with it. Here's the story.
A couple days ago I'm visiting a west suburban spa in a strip mall. All done, I walk out and get in my car, start her up, check everywhere and back out of my parking spot. I put it in Drive, just in time to hear Bang. Look in the rear view mirror and there is an SUV, stopped right behind me. Oh damn. I get out, and he gets out, then his wife.
"Are you OK?" Yes, everyone is fine. We look at our cars. His SUV shows not a damn thing. My sedan has two scratches and a minor gash. He's apologizing, she's apologizing. I assure them it is OK, that the marks were there before (they weren't) and to not worry about it and have a nice day. I don't think they noticed that I was leaving an AMP, or that they knew what one was. Well, the guy probably did, maybe not his wife.
So my better half hasn't noticed yet. I figure the longer it takes her to notice, the better off I'll be because I can claim I don't know what happened or when.
Still, this sucks. If he had insisted on filing a report, I'd be in Creative Writing 101.
"Yeah honey, I was just driving around in a 'burb 30 miles from our house with no real purpose. Just bored, ya know? I saw a liquor store in a strip mall and decided to stop in and see if they had any of that 10 year old Chardonnay you like so much. And then Bam! Out of no where this guy hits me. ".[/QUOTE]I've been at a shop 2 times when raided. Got out unscathed both time. No matter where I visit I always have a "cover for action" plan in case I get jammed up.
[QUOTE=JackRam;5571962]I've been at a shop 2 times when raided. Got out unscathed both time. No matter where I visit I always have a "cover for action" plan in case I get jammed up.[/QUOTE]Would you mind sharing your experience at the raid? Did the cops question you? What was your story? Plus what is your "cover for action" plan? It might help some of us out if we ever get into a jam. I realize you may need to change some minor details to protect your anonymity but I think we could all learn something from you.
B.
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;5528266]Its BS is what it is. Unfortunately the reason this has become so bad is some mongers pay them for it and all it takes is one monger to pay. I had an old granny try and get 40 out of me for just massage. I said your getting a massage tip only. I had another tell me she wanted 80 for a handy since I roamed UTC a little. I said no way. The only way to stop it is to say no and stop giving them business. I saw that happen once where the parlor actually closed because the ladies were such jack asses.[/QUOTE]I'm not a cheap skate, but always start low. You don't buy a car for the asking price. More often than not these girls will cave because they want the cash.
I'm having issues with it. The manage attachments option isn't working for me. Any help?
I've made good use of my mongering free time over the holidays. But I've also noticed an overall rise in prices at the AMPs. 1. 6 for FS, 1. 2 for CBJ. At one of my favorite goto places in Buffalo Grove, girl wanted to charge me 1 for nude L1, and I had to argue with her for a couple minutes, getting very close to walking if she didn't accept my. 8. She gave in and performed good after that, but still it bugs me. In some of the cases I listed above I just said no and downgraded. I haven't walked, yet.
Inflation is all over the place, for every bit of good and services. And I understand it hits the girls as much as it hits us. But it's obvious they are taking advantage of the situation. Face it, the majority of us walk in there with nothing but a pocket full of Jacksons, they know this, and up their prices by a Jackson, not a Hamilton, and certainly not by an Abe.
And it's not as if I am getting much hotter, younger women for this extra. The quality you can expect around Chicago has pretty much remained the same. We get the leftovers, and the really hot ones either go to the high end escort agencies or to the warmer states, Cali and Florida.
I'm not just complaining. I'd like you guys to tell me if you've noticed the same, if you've walked or argued your way down. They are in a bargaining bind as well, if you refuse any extra service that is a lost investment of their time as well, and a good indication of getting a bad rep and less customers.
[QUOTE=SamSpade;5695243]I've made good use of my mongering free time over the holidays. But I've also noticed an overall rise in prices at the AMPs. 1. 6 for FS, 1. 2 for CBJ. At one of my favorite goto places in Buffalo Grove, girl wanted to charge me 1 for nude L1, and I had to argue with her for a couple minutes, getting very close to walking if she didn't accept my. 8. She gave in and performed good after that, but still it bugs me. In some of the cases I listed above I just said no and downgraded. I haven't walked, yet.
Inflation is all over the place, for every bit of good and services. [/QUOTE]I always make sure I bring several 5's and 10's, to avoid that issue.
But yes, I have walked, and I have said "just do massage, that is all I have" and have left a tip that is appropriate for a real massage.
Sucks to do it, but I think of it like TOFTT.
I admit I must be the dumbest monger on her, and I have what many of you may consider a basic question. What is the difference between a Chinese and Korean AMP, and how do you know before going in, other than asking. If someone would be gracious enough to PM me 1 or 2 of each in the Naperville / Aurora area, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=JolieThornDog;5730470]I admit I must be the dumbest monger on her, and I have what many of you may consider a basic question. What is the difference between a Chinese and Korean AMP, and how do you know before going in, other than asking. If someone would be gracious enough to PM me 1 or 2 of each in the Naperville / Aurora area, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]I'll 2nd that Question. I don't know the difference either!
[QUOTE=Ksterk;5731612]I'll 2nd that Question. I don't know the difference either![/QUOTE]Usually, its the price. Chinese tend to be cheaper, Korean tend to be more expensive.
These days most Chinese places are 65/ hr, Korean places used to be 70/ hr, but now want 80/ hr. One place in the western burbs wants 100/ hr. I laughed & walked out.
Korean places USUALLY have a table shower, and they USED to have a dry sauna, but the sauna is pretty hard to find now.
Chinese places USUALLY do NOT have a table shower. There are exceptions, though.
The Korean places tend to do a better massage, IMHO. Korean massage works the muscles more, They used to crack your back and neck, or walk your back. I no longer want any of these, and I think they are harder to come by.
Chinese massage is more repetitive, but their skull and foot massage is really good, if you like that.
Extras tend to be more common at Korean places, esp L2/ L3. Chinese places often are L1 only.
Age and looks are really similar, you'll find grannies at both, but also hot milfs at both. The latter are way less common than the former.
[QUOTE=HenryA77;5731738]Usually, its the price. Chinese tend to be cheaper, Korean tend to be more expensive.
These days most Chinese places are 65/ hr, Korean places used to be 70/ hr, but now want 80/ hr. One place in the western burbs wants 100/ hr. I laughed & walked out.
Korean places USUALLY have a table shower, and they USED to have a dry sauna, but the sauna is pretty hard to find now.
Chinese places USUALLY do NOT have a table shower. There are exceptions, though.
The Korean places tend to do a better massage, IMHO. Korean massage works the muscles more, They used to crack your back and neck, or walk your back. I no longer want any of these, and I think they are harder to come by.
Chinese massage is more repetitive, but their skull and foot massage is really good, if you like that.
Extras tend to be more common at Korean places, esp L2/ L3. Chinese places often are L1 only.
Age and looks are really similar, you'll find grannies at both, but also hot milfs at both. The latter are way less common than the former.[/QUOTE]Thank you.
Thats not a dumb question at all if you haven't been into the mongering scene as long as some of us. Besides what already has been spelled, I always look for how the place is decorated when you enter. For example, if you notice floral pattern posters and such on the outside of the building, and no door between front desk and rooms, odds are its Chinese, and also of the walls in room s do not go all the way up to the ceiling, also odds are its Chinese, but not guaranteed. When the masseuse comes in room, first 2 things I ask, is name and where she's from?
Lastly, here's an another example of a dumb question, a fellow, monger somewhere asked something along the lines of. "Is it ok to take off my underwear during massage?" Good luck though on finding a place.
[QUOTE=JolieThornDog;5730470]I admit I must be the dumbest monger on her, and I have what many of you may consider a basic question. What is the difference between a Chinese and Korean AMP, and how do you know before going in, other than asking. If someone would be gracious enough to PM me 1 or 2 of each in the Naperville / Aurora area, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.[/QUOTE].
Hey all, I work all around the northern suburbs, could really use a good massage, L1/ L2. Any independents, preferably Latina anyone would recommend? Or else I'll try one of the agencies. Tia!
Hi all, coming to Niles IL for a few days for a Contract Job. Can you all recommend an L2 or L3 Chinese or Korean AMP. Hopefully younger attractive girls. Or at least attractive. WI is a mess right now AMP's are shutting down left and right an the average MT is 50-70 yrs old and ugly. Our Provider situation is even worse with nothing but scabbed up junkies and slores looking to rip off.
I couldn't figure out what city I would find "Niles" under in the forum menu, so I can't research the AMP scene, if someone could provide that info I would be happy to do my own due diligence and RTFF.
Don't know if any you fellow mongers have experienced this (or I'm just attracting some weirdos)?
Several girls have done this same weird gesture afterward. After a covered service of any level; they would hold up the filled bag and say something along the line of: "so many babies in there!" I usually ignore and shrug it off, but it's happening more often and with different ladies. Anyone else have this happen?
[QUOTE=SpudNut21;5933311]Don't know if any you fellow mongers have experienced this (or I'm just attracting some weirdos)?
Several girls have done this same weird gesture afterward. After a covered service of any level; they would hold up the filled bag and say something along the line of: "so many babies in there!" I usually ignore and shrug it off, but it's happening more often and with different ladies. Anyone else have this happen?[/QUOTE]I hear this a lot too, but maybe we just go to the same places.
[QUOTE=SpudNut21;5933311]Don't know if any you fellow mongers have experienced this (or I'm just attracting some weirdos)?
Several girls have done this same weird gesture afterward. After a covered service of any level; they would hold up the filled bag and say something along the line of: "so many babies in there!" I usually ignore and shrug it off, but it's happening more often and with different ladies. Anyone else have this happen?[/QUOTE]Technically there are no babies in there. It requires one sperm and one egg to make a baby. Putting aside the whole "when life begins concept" the sperm are nothing more than half the ingredients to produce a baby. Maybe you should keep copies of biology books around so you can hand them out when they make these comments? It's always a good thing to spread knowledge after spreading a girl's legs.
B.
[QUOTE=SpudNut21;5933311]Don't know if any you fellow mongers have experienced this (or I'm just attracting some weirdos)?
Several girls have done this same weird gesture afterward. After a covered service of any level; they would hold up the filled bag and say something along the line of: "so many babies in there!" I usually ignore and shrug it off, but it's happening more often and with different ladies. Anyone else have this happen?[/QUOTE]My ex-wife used to say that when sh's spit after giving me a blow job. I thought it was weird then, but she gave a great BJ so I ignored it.
[QUOTE=SpudNut21;5933311]Don't know if any you fellow mongers have experienced this (or I'm just attracting some weirdos)?
Several girls have done this same weird gesture afterward. After a covered service of any level; they would hold up the filled bag and say something along the line of: "so many babies in there!" I usually ignore and shrug it off, but it's happening more often and with different ladies. Anyone else have this happen?[/QUOTE]Remember those stories about women who steal sperm the guy left behind, to make a baby without his consent or knowledge? And then the story of Drake who put hot sauce in the used condom before throwing it away, and the Instagram "model" who then burned her vag with it, trying to make a baby and get a ton of child support. It sounds like urban legends, but apparently it is a real thing.
And if you read through the articles, there are judges who set precedence, awarding the women child support money, even while acknowledging that the woman did a despicable thing, because the child that resulted from her actions shouldn't be punished for the actions of the mother. That's nice, but the judges aren't punishing the thief mothers either.
[QUOTE=SpudNut21;5933311]Don't know if any you fellow mongers have experienced this (or I'm just attracting some weirdos)?
Several girls have done this same weird gesture afterward. After a covered service of any level; they would hold up the filled bag and say something along the line of: "so many babies in there!" I usually ignore and shrug it off, but it's happening more often and with different ladies. Anyone else have this happen?[/QUOTE]I smile, shake my head and tell them sorry but the doctor fixed. That.
This is a story that I'm still shaking my head about.
Me and my son were out grocery shopping. He grabs a cart and says follow me. Head over to produce and he tells me to put a pineapple in. We head back to the entrance and begin our shopping.
I ask him why the pineapple. He says him and his buddy do this sometimes to pick up pussy. Huh?
He says putting a pineapple in your cart, upside down, is a sign to swingers that you're in the mood. It's a club that's been around for a while that started on cruise ships where swingers would put one outside their cabin door indicating they're looking to have some fun. It expanded to being out and about, where you can be wearing a tropical shirt or anything pineapple related as a way to start up a conversation. Does it work?
He said one time a guy approached them and asked if they wanted to grab a cup of coffee or a drink. They passed.
Another time about a month ago a guy started chatting them up and came right out and asked if they wanted to come back to his place and fuck his wife. They passed.
I'm like you got my attention.
Back to our shopping. I notice a bit of attention coming our way. Now he's young and fit so I'm not sure if the pineapple had anything to do with it but it's fun. No one approached.
We get to the checkout and then things changed. The girl is mid 30's and attractive. She's being really flirty and friendly to both of us. She talks about how she's a single mom and works hard and likes to party too. My son has good game so I just kept quiet. She was definitely waiting for him to make a move but he didn't. She grabs the pineapple out of the cart, holds it up and asks "Do you really want this?" I look at my son and I'm like did I hear what I just heard. Folks, we had a bingo!
We checked out but will definitely be going back, separately, hoping to get in her line again.
Blew my mind.
Lately, as I view the ads concerning what they are willing to do, I see the terms, "classic sex" and in addition to "GFE" now there is also "GFE and VIP". So three questions. Does classic sex mean anything else than Missionary? And Is there a difference between GFE and VIP? If so, what is it?
I'm not sure why but over the years I've noticed that the girls always increase their ask by 20. They want 60, I offer 40. They want 100, I offer 80. They want 160, I offer 140. So what I do is to always carry a 10. If they say no to my lowball as I'm reaching into my pocket to show them that's all I brought in, I'll bump it up 10, promising to bring more next time. Which is when they say ok, you bring more next time.
More times than not they take it. Win / Win.
Exactly what I do except I counteroffer and don't show any cash.
[QUOTE=HeadFirst;6164762]I'm not sure why but over the years I've noticed that the girls always increase their ask by 20. They want 60, I offer 40. They want 100, I offer 80. They want 160, I offer 140. So what I do is to always carry a 10. If they say no to my lowball as I'm reaching into my pocket to show them that's all I brought in, I'll bump it up 10, promising to bring more next time. Which is when they say ok, you bring more next time.
More times than not they take it. Win / Win.[/QUOTE]
I heard a provider that I used to enjoy in the Denver area has relocated to the Chicago Area. If anyone comes across her I would appreciate a heads up. - thanks.
She went by the name Lee, Korean, Around*50 yo. Short black hair Bs. FS gal enjoys giving BBBJ and TUMA. Worked at Blue Spa in Commerce city.
I'm a little more aggressive on the cuts depending on price, for example 120 ill offer 60, they try to counter at 100 and settle on 80. I never offer to bring more the second time, but offer repeat business. In my area they all have habbits so if you catch them at the right time they will settle for the lower amount right away. In the end they are trying to get the most out of you for least amount service and I'm trying to get the most service out of them for the least amount and have no shame doing that. Remember they will give it away for free outside the biz to get things.
[QUOTE=HeadFirst;6164762]I'm not sure why but over the years I've noticed that the girls always increase their ask by 20. They want 60, I offer 40. They want 100, I offer 80. They want 160, I offer 140. So what I do is to always carry a 10. If they say no to my lowball as I'm reaching into my pocket to show them that's all I brought in, I'll bump it up 10, promising to bring more next time. Which is when they say ok, you bring more next time.
More times than not they take it. Win / Win.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HeadFirst;6164762]I'm not sure why but over the years I've noticed that the girls always increase their ask by 20. They want 60, I offer 40. They want 100, I offer 80. They want 160, I offer 140. So what I do is to always carry a 10. If they say no to my lowball as I'm reaching into my pocket to show them that's all I brought in, I'll bump it up 10, promising to bring more next time. Which is when they say ok, you bring more next time.
More times than not they take it. Win / Win.[/QUOTE]They charge in increments of 20 because they know we hit up the ATMs before showing up, the majority of which spit out nothing by Jacksons. That bill is so common that I've heard them referred to as Yuppie Coupons.
Anyone notice lately that List crawler (escort Babylon) has really turn to shit lately?
Its 99 percent scam and fake ads now. Obviously this isn't new but it's getting to the point where it's not worth it.
It should be easier than ever to find someone but it's all just nonsense.
I know they're in here somewhere but I can't find them. Can somebody steer me towards the section or posts about Mongering rules for newbies. I have a friend that's just getting into this hobby of ours and would like to take advantage of all of our wisdom and knowledge as opposed to learning the hard way.
[QUOTE=HeadFirst;6546158]I know they're in here somewhere but I can't find them. Can somebody steer me towards the section or posts about Mongering rules for newbies. I have a friend that's just getting into this hobby of ours and would like to take advantage of all of our wisdom and knowledge as opposed to learning the hard way.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33100-What-I-learned-as-a-Monger-for-the-past-2-years.-Good-read-for-Newbies[/URL]
Gentlemen, be careful out there. Saw a post on Listcrawler 40 and up section. A woman who has been in the business for quite some time. She has retired due to Cook County sting. I searched Cook County and read the post. Sorry I didn't post a link. Be safe.
[QUOTE=Ruwetysm;6650653]Gentlemen, be careful out there. Saw a post on Listcrawler 40 and up section. A woman who has been in the business for quite some time. She has retired due to Cook County sting. I searched Cook County and read the post. Sorry I didn't post a link. Be safe.[/QUOTE]Read the 40 plus for the past few days and cannot find the post. Can I please have the poster's name or date and time of post?
TIA.