Seeking Arrangements

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0e23b2de-8c10-6ee9-6b03-3f24027e2b80[/URL]

Have anyone met her yet? She didn't reply my message but she looks good.

I tried to engage her in conversation without any luck, about 9 months ago. I inquired if discreet affair or mutually beneficial friendship align with her interests / expectation, with no response.

Pics are very nice, and she is very convenient for me, if she is actually in Peab. My guess is that she wants to be paid / gifted for being platonically friendly to you, and be your arm candy "for dinner and travel".

[QUOTE=MarkIV;3897908][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0e23b2de-8c10-6ee9-6b03-3f24027e2b80[/URL]

Have anyone met her yet? She didn't reply my message but she looks good.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Longjblues;3898005]I tried to engage her in conversation without any luck, about 9 months ago. I inquired if discreet affair or mutually beneficial friendship align with her interests / expectation, with no response.

Pics are very nice, and she is very convenient for me, if she is actually in Peab. My guess is that she wants to be paid / gifted for being platonically friendly to you, and be your arm candy "for dinner and travel".[/QUOTE]She's been a member since April 14th, 2014, that tells you something right their (either GPS or waiting for a Unicorn, which we all know don't exist).

She also states she's a bartender in downtown historic Salem, can't be that hard to actually find and meet, and see what her story is, hard to ignore you in person I wouldn't get too fixated on any one of these women, if they don't respond, there are plenty of others.

Thank you guys for answering my other questions, but unfortunately I have another one.

I hate to be dishonest with any provider, just not my style, but after reading some posts I suspect that you lose 80% of potential connections if you are married. I do not want to drop 90 and not be able to enjoy the experience to the fullest. Should I say not-married? Also does it matter what income I show? Should I avoid using my real town, just Boston for privacy. Does it matter if I have a fake pic or most guys do not use any? Does my age matter?

If I decide to go in all the way I would like to know all the tricks.

Thanks again,

-BH.

Wow man. Building your mongering career on a bedrock of honesty? I do admire you for that. But I also wonder how successful that will be. Please keep us posted on this admirable experiment.

[QUOTE=BigHead;3898847]Thank you guys for answering my other questions, but unfortunately I have another one.

I hate to be dishonest with any provider, just not my style, but after reading some posts I suspect that you lose 80% of potential connections if you are married. I do not want to drop 90 and not be able to enjoy the experience to the fullest. Should I say not-married? Also does it matter what income I show? Should I avoid using my real town, just Boston for privacy. Does it matter if I have a fake pic or most guys do not use any? Does my age matter?

If I decide to go in all the way I would like to know all the tricks.

Thanks again,

-BH.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3893751]If you aren't willing to pay $90 for a month of immersion in limitless amounts of quality pussy, that you will likely be paying 2-3 per for, you cannot afford sugaring.[/QUOTE]Some of us have absolutely ZERO interest in "sugaring", sir. There are, nevertheless, some real hoes on SA who will meet up for sex with random strangers like any escort would, for a one-shot deal for sex, just like any escort would. In fact, some I indeed recognized as escorts who are, or were, advertising. And there is one ultra-GFE escort on there near Providence who I've inseminated numerous times for 150/200. I personally prefer to fuck them and pay them to leave. I'm not at all intersted in "sugaring" them. So I'm not willing to pay 90 bucks in order to send just a few messages to those precious few that just want to meet up and fuck an anonymous stranger, with no bullshit.

But I am willing to share the contact info and pics if I have them, for the various local bareback full service escorts I know, if anyone who is a paying SA member, wants to give me some contact info for some of the girls that they know, who are HOES on there, and who are willing to meet up for an hour of bareback sex, without drama. I'm surely willing to pay 200 for those, if they will fuck on the first date, and if its bareback. But with their phone number or email, please--NOT just the SA profile! .

[QUOTE=Glennie;3899271]Wow man. Building your mongering career on a bedrock of honesty? I do admire you for that. But I also wonder how successful that will be. Please keep us posted on this admirable experiment.[/QUOTE]I never give them my number or real name, but I do not invent my biography, if they ask me about my family situation or work I always tell them the way it is. I do not consider it honesty, I just communicate with them like I do with anybody else. But this site is different, to get your money worth you need to represent yourself "properly".

-BH.

I constantly have luck on this site. Met a new 21 year old girl, pretty hot. I don't pay outrageous prices at all. I negotiated $40 an hour to hangout with me. For like 4 hours. You guys just don't do it right.

[QUOTE=BostonMan781;3899573]I constantly have luck on this site. Met a new 21 year old girl, pretty hot. I don't pay outrageous prices at all. I negotiated $40 an hour to hangout with me. For like 4 hours. You guys just don't do it right.[/QUOTE]The time commitment is the issue for me. Like King I have no interest in sugaring. I suspect many of us. Don't have the time and aren't in the situation where we even could dedicate chunks of time to these girls.

[QUOTE=TwoMins;3899620]The time commitment is the issue for me. Like King I have no interest in sugaring. I suspect many of us. Don't have the time and aren't in the situation where we even could dedicate chunks of time to these girls.[/QUOTE]I assume that a large percentage of these girls will just fuck for a fee. I recognize some faces there from the past. For the most part "sugaring" is just a fancy word for "pay for play". Most of the girls who hope to find a real wealthy sugar daddy will be disappointed. Most of our dreams as well as theirs will never materialized.

-BH.

[QUOTE=BigHead;3899816]I assume that a large percentage of these girls will just fuck for a fee. I recognize some faces there from the past. For the most part "sugaring" is just a fancy word for "pay for play". Most of the girls who hope to find a real wealthy sugar daddy will be disappointed. Most of our dreams as well as theirs will never materialized.

-BH.[/QUOTE]You guys can play the way you want. Seeking is a site that does permit those of us who want real arrangements to find them. If there is too great an influx of escorts to the site, it will get bashed by FOSTA the same way CL and BP did. So, please don't screw it up for those of us who can get what we need here. Get yourself another safe, outside the US site for escorts.

Now, I am not holier than thou. I will be in your fair city Friday, and I am contacting gals left and right on Seeking. I make it clear I am a traveler, so it is most likely these will be 1-night stands, but it is also true there is much business to be done in Boston and I might be back, so they don't have to think of themselves as escorts, just on a 'delayed' ongoing arrangement. LOL.

It is interesting to me that many girls in Boston say they aren't interested in married guys. They have more morals than those in southern California, where it mostly doesn't matter, I guess. HA.

Anyone have info or experience with 5'6, athletic body, in her 30's, MILF on SA.

Nice pics. Can't get link right now. Pm or post. Any info appreciated.

ALL of these sites, whether SA, AL, Established Gentlemen, etc, all have a certain number of pros that advertise in there. Why wouldn't they? There is little or no enforcement of policies that would restrict such use, so they do. I have gandered upon them and found that a large minority of women there are also UTRs on USA, so there you have it. My BFF and fellow "domesticated" male has been seeing three young ladies he found on EG more than a year ago. He is convinced NONE of them are UTRs. I don't want to burst his bubble, so I keep it to myself that two of them are trolling on USA. You'd think for a gal having her rent paid in a decent apartment complex located in a yuppy part of town, taken to nice lunches and dinners, not to mention nice furniture and weekends on the beach in 5-star resorts would be enough to be a one-SD kind of girl, but apparently not. The amount of money he would save by simply seeing one or two pros or UTRs would curl your toes! But hey, it's only money, right?

There is no honor amongst thieves. As long as you go into such arrangements with your eyes wide open, it's no problem. It's when you look at the same "arrangement" through rose-covered glasses that can cause angst.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3900533]You guys can play the way you want. Seeking is a site that does permit those of us who want real arrangements to find them. If there is too great an influx of escorts to the site, it will get bashed by FOSTA the same way CL and BP did. So, please don't screw it up for those of us who can get what we need here. Get yourself another safe, outside the US site for escorts.

Now, I am not holier than thou. I will be in your fair city Friday, and I am contacting gals left and right on Seeking. I make it clear I am a traveler, so it is most likely these will be 1-night stands, but it is also true there is much business to be done in Boston and I might be back, so they don't have to think of themselves as escorts, just on a 'delayed' ongoing arrangement. LOL.

It is interesting to me that many girls in Boston say they aren't interested in married guys. They have more morals than those in southern California, where it mostly doesn't matter, I guess. HA.[/QUOTE]

I haven't had very good luck or experiences in Lynn, but I am forever curious. Below is a screenshot of her profile.

[QUOTE=Longjblues;3901548]Anyone have info or experience with 5'6, athletic body, in her 30's, MILF on SA.

Nice pics. Can't get link right now. Pm or post. Any info appreciated.[/QUOTE]

If you not a paying member then the initial messages they let you send, the girls cannot read them, they just receive a generic message that you are interested. Also I noticed that only 25% of the ladies who post there are actually visiting the site, majority of them already gave up. Still Boston has a lot of very active and hopeful ladies, but in the suburbs only a few who are still active. I think their dream of finding a real Sugar Daddy is very rarely realized.

-BH.

[QUOTE=SpecialOne8;3901570]ALL of these sites, whether SA, AL, Established Gentlemen, etc, all have a certain number of pros that advertise in there. Why wouldn't they? There is little or no enforcement of policies that would restrict such use, so they do. I have gandered upon them and found that a large minority of women there are also UTRs on USA, so there you have it. My BFF and fellow "domesticated" male has been seeing three young ladies he found on EG more than a year ago. He is convinced NONE of them are UTRs. I don't want to burst his bubble, so I keep it to myself that two of them are trolling on USA. You'd think for a gal having her rent paid in a decent apartment complex located in a yuppy part of town, taken to nice lunches and dinners, not to mention nice furniture and weekends on the beach in 5-star resorts would be enough to be a one-SD kind of girl, but apparently not. The amount of money he would save by simply seeing one or two pros or UTRs would curl your toes! But hey, it's only money, right?

There is no honor amongst thieves. As long as you go into such arrangements with your eyes wide open, it's no problem. It's when you look at the same "arrangement" through rose-covered glasses that can cause angst.[/QUOTE]" large minority" ?

I have her number and FB. I communicated with her 6 months ago. She is in Natick, agreed to a car date BBBJ for 50, but I never went to see her, just do like car dates. She was reviewed here once and also recommended by a trusted senior.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5eb28b14-31cc-46b2-af0f-6c7b5b718c91[/URL]

-BH.

[QUOTE=BigHead;3901996]I have her number and FB. I communicated with her 6 months ago. She is in Natick, agreed to a car date BBBJ for 50, but I never went to see her, just do like car dates. She was reviewed here once and also recommended by a trusted senior.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5eb28b14-31cc-46b2-af0f-6c7b5b718c91[/URL]

-BH.[/QUOTE]Oh yea, I remember her too. Didn't Tu Eres talk about her?

Had a top ten of all time encounter today with a graduate student off SA. Unfortunately, I cannot share her digits or any other information at her request, but I just share this for those who are SA doubters. It takes energy and commitment to succeed on SA, but when you do the rewards are often off the charts. I would say that at least four of my top ten lifetime experiences are from SA at this point. This woman today was a uniquely intelligent and lovely friend. We had lunch once previously with no sex. Today was all sex at lunch time. Two hours of joy for all. I am sure I will get some gripes about not sharing, but those of you who do great on SA will understand.

"I'm sorry for the inconvenience. Unfortunately, we have permanently removed your account and we are unable to reinstate it. We are also unable to reply to you again or disclose further details. Please read our FAQs for further information.

You have been permanently banned from SeekingArrangement and are not allowed to access the website again. Future attempts to access the site will be considered a violation of our Terms of Use. ".

Well I'm banned for life, I've tried to find out why and they won't tell me.

[QUOTE=BostonMan781;3904760]"I'm sorry for the inconvenience. Unfortunately, we have permanently removed your account and we are unable to reinstate it. We are also unable to reply to you again or disclose further details. Please read our FAQs for further information.

You have been permanently banned from SeekingArrangement and are not allowed to access the website again. Future attempts to access the site will be considered a violation of our Terms of Use. ".

Well I'm banned for life, I've tried to find out why and they won't tell me.[/QUOTE]Come on now, we're not some dumb girls here. While they might not tell you why, I'll bet top dollars you know exactly why you were banned.

[QUOTE=Banjomania;3904311]Had a top ten of all time encounter today with a graduate student off SA. Unfortunately, I cannot share her digits or any other information at her request, but I just share this for those who are SA doubters. It takes energy and commitment to succeed on SA, but when you do the rewards are often off the charts. I would say that at least four of my top ten lifetime experiences are from SA at this point. This woman today was a uniquely intelligent and lovely friend. We had lunch once previously with no sex. Today was all sex at lunch time. Two hours of joy for all. I am sure I will get some gripes about not sharing, but those of you who do great on SA will understand.[/QUOTE]You could post link to her page as if we found her on the site.

I know why. PM me if interested in discussing. It's a good idea to understand the SOP on SA.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;3904820]Come on now, we're not some dumb girls here. While they might not tell you why, I'll bet top dollars you know exactly why you were banned.[/QUOTE]

Not asking for Profile Name, just tell us the City / town she is listed under on SA. If its Boston, never mind.

Pleas don't make us beggggggggg! You won't be violating your promise to her, by just the city / town name.

[QUOTE=Banjomania;3904311]Had a top ten of all time encounter today with a graduate student off SA. Unfortunately, I cannot share her digits or any other information at her request, but I just share this for those who are SA doubters. It takes energy and commitment to succeed on SA, but when you do the rewards are often off the charts. I would say that at least four of my top ten lifetime experiences are from SA at this point. This woman today was a uniquely intelligent and lovely friend. We had lunch once previously with no sex. Today was all sex at lunch time. Two hours of joy for all. I am sure I will get some gripes about not sharing, but those of you who do great on SA will understand.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;3904820]Come on now, we're not some dumb girls here. While they might not tell you why, I'll bet top dollars you know exactly why you were banned.[/QUOTE]I've never paid a girl for sex on SA. I've only offered girls cash for cuddling in underwear.

Although it's still early days for me on SA, this hasn't been my experience. In any case, whether or not an experience is an all time top ten should not be determined while in the glow of that experience, but rather after much time has passed. My top ten have been via TER / BP etc. I don't see that changing overnight.

[QUOTE=Banjomania;3904311]Had a top ten of all time encounter today with a graduate student off SA. Unfortunately, I cannot share her digits or any other information at her request, but I just share this for those who are SA doubters. It takes energy and commitment to succeed on SA, but when you do the rewards are often off the charts. I would say that at least four of my top ten lifetime experiences are from SA at this point. This woman today was a uniquely intelligent and lovely friend. We had lunch once previously with no sex. Today was all sex at lunch time. Two hours of joy for all. I am sure I will get some gripes about not sharing, but those of you who do great on SA will understand.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BostonMan781;3904760]"I'm sorry for the inconvenience. Unfortunately, we have permanently removed your account and we are unable to reinstate it. We are also unable to reply to you again or disclose further details. Please read our FAQs for further information.

You have been permanently banned from SeekingArrangement and are not allowed to access the website again. Future attempts to access the site will be considered a violation of our Terms of Use. ".

Well I'm banned for life, I've tried to find out why and they won't tell me.[/QUOTE]You could just get a burner and create a new email address. It's not like they know who you are. If you really can't figure this out PM me and I will help.

Saw posting on SB for this beautiful and sexy woman. Very appealing. Sent a message complimenting her and said she'd probably get a ton of responses. She answered saying she'd send more photos if I gave personal email. Asked if text would be easier. No answer and I was blocked right away. Even my message to her is gone. Can't give the link, it's gone. She was a hot widow. Just wondering if this is some type of scam.

[QUOTE=Samuel05;3907757]Saw posting on SB for this beautiful and sexy woman. Very appealing. Sent a message complimenting her and said she'd probably get a ton of responses. She answered saying she'd send more photos if I gave personal email. Asked if text would be easier. No answer and I was blocked right away. Even my message to her is gone. Can't give the link, it's gone. She was a hot widow. Just wondering if this is some type of scam.[/QUOTE]Just a guess but text=phone and she cannot or does not want to do phone. Easier to remain anonymous via email.

[QUOTE=Samuel05;3907757]Saw posting on SB for this beautiful and sexy woman. Very appealing. Sent a message complimenting her and said she'd probably get a ton of responses. She answered saying she'd send more photos if I gave personal email. Asked if text would be easier. No answer and I was blocked right away. Even my message to her is gone. Can't give the link, it's gone. She was a hot widow. Just wondering if this is some type of scam.[/QUOTE]Seen this before. Wants a personal email. Part of a hacking scheme. She disappeared because someone probably reported her.

I chat with girls and at times they message me. At various levels they just disappear. They don't read chats, they are online, but just disappear. Am I doing something wrong? I don't even ask for sex, I just ask for their allowance and meeting up.

[QUOTE=CoolGuy1985;3908574]I chat with girls and at times they message me. At various levels they just disappear. They don't read chats, they are online, but just disappear. Am I doing something wrong? I don't even ask for sex, I just ask for their allowance and meeting up.[/QUOTE]First few messages try to flirt.

Then say hey what are you looking for financially.

Then move off the site to text or Kik.

Or:

Say hey my philosophy is to meet up a few times before we agree on a monthly allowance. I'm thinking $1-2 per meet if that works for you. Let's meet soon as I've got a bunch of money to spend and a lot of SBs interested but I think you're special.

Than move to text or Kik. The quicker you get them off SA the better you will be. The app sucks on mobile phones. It looks like tinder but with many buttons and tabs so it's difficult to communicate. I think it's on purpose to benefit the SA owners.

Think of sitting at a bar and chatting it up with a lady. She excuses herself to visit the restroom. On her way back she runs into an old friend (perhaps someone she was chatting with when she was at the bar last week). Will she come back and continue the conversation with you? When? Who knows?

[QUOTE=CoolGuy1985;3908574]I chat with girls and at times they message me. At various levels they just disappear. They don't read chats, they are online, but just disappear. Am I doing something wrong? I don't even ask for sex, I just ask for their allowance and meeting up.[/QUOTE]

I concur. Although I haven't had much success since I only am available to meet during the day, and with the lady hosting, my experiences have directed me to the conclusion that the sooner you take conversation off SA, and to text / email, the better.

[QUOTE=Aardvarks;3908607]First few messages try to flirt.

Then say hey what are you looking for financially.

Then move off the site to text or Kik.

Or:

Say hey my philosophy is to meet up a few times before we agree on a monthly allowance. I'm thinking $1-2 per meet if that works for you. Let's meet soon as I've got a bunch of money to spend and a lot of SBs interested but I think you're special.

Than move to text or Kik. The quicker you get them off SA the better you will be. The app sucks on mobile phones. It looks like tinder but with many buttons and tabs so it's difficult to communicate. I think it's on purpose to benefit the SA owners.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aardvarks;3908388]Seen this before. Wants a personal email. Part of a hacking scheme. She disappeared because someone probably reported her.[/QUOTE]For a number of reasons, I always try to take them off SA. I give them an email, non-personal of course. One reason is that anything written on SA is owned by SA.

[QUOTE=Longjblues;3909099]I concur. Although I haven't had much success since I only am available to meet during the day, and with the lady hosting, my experiences have directed me to the conclusion that the sooner you take conversation off SA, and to text / email, the better.[/QUOTE]I can only do day dates too. I find that stating that upfront helps in 2 ways 1) Obviously sets the tone for the relationship IE we are. It doing fancy dinners, arm candy BS. We are meeting, chatting, and getting busy. 2) Figure out very early in the prose whether this will work out.

I play a broad search and destroy technique. I lay it all on the line in the first few messages and send the initial exploratory message to 10 at a time. No responses get a follow up "hey are you not interested in money I have an envelope in my hand for you". Any GPS I say "sorry but that's a little over my budget good luck to you". I've had the GPS girls come back and start lowering their # many many times. I've stopped doing the meet and greet thing because it's a waste of time. Skip to the first date and if they're not what you want give them a gift certificate or something. Hi, d onto the cahs They love CVS and Walgreens.

[QUOTE=CoolGuy1985;3908574]I chat with girls and at times they message me. At various levels they just disappear. They don't read chats, they are online, but just disappear. Am I doing something wrong? I don't even ask for sex, I just ask for their allowance and meeting up.[/QUOTE]There are different types of girls on here wanting different kinds of arrangements so depends who you are talking to. A seasoned pro or former backpage girl doesn't want to go back and forth with endless emails. You are wasting their time. A hot college girl who is hesitant and cautious because they never did this before may require a lengthy email exchanges before meeting. One of my top UTRs is a hot college chick I met on SA. It took a month of texting everyday for her to become comfortable with me. She finally took a leap of faith and we met. Now it's like having a girlfriend without the drama. Also keep in mind, the hotter they are, the more hits they are getting from other guys. So you are competing with other guys. When it happens to me I don't sweat it. I just move on. It's a numbers game. The more women you talk to, the more likely you have a chance at meeting someone. It's not for everyone. Some people don't have the time or patience. Some people misinterpret SA as a replacement for backpage. Although there has been an influx of backpage girls due to FOSTA its still a whole different ballgame.

[QUOTE=CoolGuy1985;3908574]I chat with girls and at times they message me. At various levels they just disappear. They don't read chats, they are online, but just disappear. Am I doing something wrong? I don't even ask for sex, I just ask for their allowance and meeting up.[/QUOTE]Some of them might be bots that created by the website itself.

[QUOTE=Spike77;3909584]There are different types of girls on here wanting different kinds of arrangements so depends who you are talking to. A seasoned pro or former backpage girl doesn't want to go back and forth with endless emails. You are wasting their time. A hot college girl who is hesitant and cautious because they never did this before may require a lengthy email exchanges before meeting. One of my top UTRs is a hot college chick I met on SA. It took a month of texting everyday for her to become comfortable with me. She finally took a leap of faith and we met. Now it's like having a girlfriend without the drama. Also keep in mind, the hotter they are, the more hits they are getting from other guys. So you are competing with other guys. When it happens to me I don't sweat it. I just move on. It's a numbers game. The more women you talk to, the more likely you have a chance at meeting someone. It's not for everyone. Some people don't have the time or patience. Some people misinterpret SA as a replacement for backpage. Although there has been an influx of backpage girls due to FOSTA its still a whole different ballgame.[/QUOTE]Completely agree. Mirrors my experience.

[QUOTE=Spike77;3909584]There are different types of girls on here wanting different kinds of arrangements so depends who you are talking to. A seasoned pro or former backpage girl doesn't want to go back and forth with endless emails. You are wasting their time. A hot college girl who is hesitant and cautious because they never did this before may require a lengthy email exchanges before meeting. One of my top UTRs is a hot college chick I met on SA. It took a month of texting everyday for her to become comfortable with me. She finally took a leap of faith and we met. Now it's like having a girlfriend without the drama. Also keep in mind, the hotter they are, the more hits they are getting from other guys. So you are competing with other guys. When it happens to me I don't sweat it. I just move on. It's a numbers game. The more women you talk to, the more likely you have a chance at meeting someone. It's not for everyone. Some people don't have the time or patience. Some people misinterpret SA as a replacement for backpage. Although there has been an influx of backpage girls due to FOSTA its still a whole different ballgame.[/QUOTE]Thanks to all the seasoned players I have digits of 5-6 gals now. Rates are high but let's see how it goes.

I agree with the hot college girl thing. One was asking for 500 bucks for some books. When I asked what do I get in return, she asks what do I expect. When I said well physical intimacy, she said she was surprised she wasn't expecting it. I was like yeah, I will give 500 to you for just talking to me.