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[QUOTE=Raynman55]FYI........a little birdy told me that NSG was raided.....I guess LEO was looking for murderers and rapists in the dark reaches of the building..... funny how they were visited after a lot people posting about the place....
Things that make you go...HMMMMMMMMMM... :([/QUOTE]Did a quick search of the online Jacksonville papers and did not spot anything. Usually those types of actions make the paper as LE is proud to show how well they are doing their jobs!
[QUOTE=Clublvr] ......Sometimes it's the drama from other dancers will cause them to leave and more often bouncers/managers wanting something more than the daily bar/payout fees......
Clublvr[/QUOTE]
All I can say is......BINGO..... :)
[QUOTE=Clublvr]Hmm, wonder what a job would be like as a bar manager? [/QUOTE]
A friend of mine owns a sports bar. He told me, based on bitter experience, that his biggest problems are:
1) Employee theft
2) Bartenders giving away free drinks
3) Women trying to go home with him. The women figure that if they f**k him royally, then they're entitled to:
a) get free drinks all night, every night
b) start running the place, every night
c) get free drinks all night, every night
I imagine a bar manager might run into something similar.
[QUOTE=Malabar]A friend of mine owns a sports bar. He told me, based on bitter experience, that his biggest problems are:
1) Employee theft
2) Bartenders giving away free drinks
3) Women trying to go home with him. The women figure that if they f**k him royally, then they're entitled to:
a) get free drinks all night, every night
b) start running the place, every night
c) get free drinks all night, every night
I imagine a bar manager might run into something similar.[/QUOTE]
1) Is common problem whenever you have a cash register and an employee. Good controls and inventory managament can contain losses.
2) Is also common with anyone if the food and bar industry. I would blame friends more than the employee for that problem, next comes drugs, followed by lousy tippers and poor compenstation being contributors
3) Well the way I see it you get laid right? the rest you have control over.
a) Can be avoided, might get one drink free if they don't pay but if you keep serving knowing they did not pay for the first one....well???
b) EE and customers always think they know more in any business until they become a manager. Me included about 25 years ago
c) See 'A" on how too avoid.
I have no desire to be an Adult club manager for that matter any establishment that serves beer or booze-too many risks involved from drugs too a drunk dancer going home and getting into an accident or worse. I could not live with that on my mind.
But thanks for the info! :)
Clublvr
[QUOTE=Originalwook]Did a quick search of the online Jacksonville papers and did not spot anything. Usually those types of actions make the paper as LE is proud to show how well they are doing their jobs![/QUOTE]
This came from an 'employee'....and the raid usually dont make the news if it just for minor violations... point is LEO was there......
Every club has its visits periodically...just feels coincidental
[QUOTE=Originalwook]Did a quick search of the online Jacksonville papers and did not spot anything. Usually those types of actions make the paper as LE is proud to show how well they are doing their jobs![/QUOTE]
I could be wrong on this but I have noticed only “Stings” are publicized vice (no pun intended) “Raids”. A couple years back I was at a club when they got raided but there was no mention in the newspaper. What a job, look at some ass, free touch, swear up and down your not LEO and bang….20 minutes later your back with your Halloween mask on with a couple Uniformed Officers handing out tickets for showing too much and grinding. To think I see more bare tits and ass at Wal-Mart.
OS
[QUOTE=Old School]I could be wrong on this but I have noticed only “Stings” are publicized vice (no pun intended) “Raids”. A couple years back I was at a club when they got raided but there was no mention in the newspaper. What a job, look at some ass, free touch, swear up and down your not LEO and bang….20 minutes later your back with your Halloween mask on with a couple Uniformed Officers handing out tickets for showing too much and grinding. To think I see more bare tits and ass at Wal-Mart.
OS[/QUOTE]I was at the old Vixens a few times when they were raided. One visit wan't a raid cause they said they were looking for a dancer with an outstanding warrant. They did take a dancer away in cuffs but it seems there were too many LE for this and several were checking out the club for possible future busts.
A few days later came the real raid and they threw everyone out and did their 'protect and serve' act against dancers trying to make a living. The drug dealers that used to hang there (I saw several transcations take place first hand) were not bothered but the poor dancers were.
Not what I would want my police force doing but then again that's me. With all the murders and crime around town I guess raiding strip clubs is an easy gig. It's not very dangerous compared to facing drug dealers that are strapped and ready to fight.
You all be safe out there.
GF
[QUOTE=Old School]I could be wrong on this but I have noticed only “Stings” are publicized vice (no pun intended) “Raids”. A couple years back I was at a club when they got raided but there was no mention in the newspaper. What a job, look at some ass, free touch, swear up and down your not LEO and bang….20 minutes later your back with your Halloween mask on with a couple Uniformed Officers handing out tickets for showing too much and grinding. To think I see more bare tits and ass at Wal-Mart.
OS[/QUOTE]Well, any type of strip club raid in Tampa always makes the news. When they introduced that stupid 6 foot rule, there was something in the paper almost every day!
[QUOTE=Old School]I could be wrong on this but I have noticed only “Stings” are publicized vice (no pun intended) “Raids”. A couple years back I was at a club when they got raided but there was no mention in the newspaper. What a job, look at some ass, free touch, swear up and down your not LEO and bang….20 minutes later your back with your Halloween mask on with a couple Uniformed Officers handing out tickets for showing too much and grinding. To think I see more bare tits and ass at Wal-Mart.
OS[/QUOTE]
You are correct my friend...the news jumps all over Ho stings on the streets and very rarely say anything about club visits unless it's like a place like Da Trap or whatever it was called....the place on University and I-95 that was owned by an ex Jag player. That place was raided and shut down because of alot of violations including drug activity.....
Be safe!
Dennis P. Rodmann
I made a trip to some of the clubs today on McDuff today.
First I went to Jakes, Jake and the bartender (Stormy) were the only ones there. She said no other dancers were coming in today the one that was supposed to come in was sick. I think Jake’s is not going to be with us much longer at the rate they are going. You would think Jake would lower the price of dances to get customers to come and get a dance. As word gets out there would be more customers and maybe then dancers would come to work. Certainly raising the price isn’t working.
Second I went to Cinders and the only two there were Selena and Sylvia, both wanted to dance. Again they only seem to hire large girls to dance and they went up in price for upstairs.
Third I went to Pony and they had about 8 to 10 girls working. Needless to say where I spent the rest of the afternoon.
Hit Cocktails last night. They've got three young Russian girls working there who are all hot and very friendly. Maybe it's because they're trying to learn the language, or they're just good at their jobs, but these Russian girls don't seem as detached as most of the other dancers. Anyway, took one of them back for some dances in the corner stall. Very nice HJ experience ending with full release all over the yaps, followed by a digit exchange!
Give them time brother, give them time! :)
[QUOTE=Dogboy Jax]Maybe it's because they're trying to learn the language, or they're just good at their jobs, but these Russian girls don't seem as detached as most of the other dancers.[/QUOTE]
First off let me say that while I do not post here much, I have been an avid reader for awhile and truly appreciate the info. Up until now I have not had much of a reason to post, but I did have a quick question that I think you guys can help me with.
I am an amateur (hope to be professional) that wants to shoot maxim style up to playboy style images, nothing pornographic or anything like that. It has been suggested to me that a good place to get models (especially when starting to build a portfolio) is to hire dancers to model. The main reasons being the style I shoot, they are comfortable with their bodies and would tend to lack the nervousness of the shoot.
That being said, Can you guys offer me any tips in this? I do not go to strip clubs that often, so im not sure what ettiqutite is.
Thanks for all your advice, and I look forward to reading and perhaps becomming more involved in the community here!
[QUOTE=Ts130]First off let me say that while I do not post here much, I have been an avid reader for awhile and truly appreciate the info. Up until now I have not had much of a reason to post, but I did have a quick question that I think you guys can help me with.
I am an amateur (hope to be professional) that wants to shoot maxim style up to playboy style images, nothing pornographic or anything like that. It has been suggested to me that a good place to get models (especially when starting to build a portfolio) is to hire dancers to model. The main reasons being the style I shoot, they are comfortable with their bodies and would tend to lack the nervousness of the shoot.
That being said, Can you guys offer me any tips in this? I do not go to strip clubs that often, so im not sure what ettiqutite is.
Thanks for all your advice, and I look forward to reading and perhaps becomming more involved in the community here![/QUOTE]
First thing off the top of my head, I think you may have trouble initially getting girls to believe you. Dancers(or women) are by nature cautious...unless they are true skanks, but I dont think you want to be snapping pics of them. Put yourself in their shoes. New/strange guy they have never seen before offers to take pic of them back at his place. I dont know about you, but that sounds like a bad horror flick. Just like 'normal' women, you got to take the time to develop some sort of 'relationship' or a better word 'rapport'. Once you have that going, suggest taking pics, but dont be pushy. Some will do it, especially if there are a couple of zeros at the end of it, and some wont. But above all, treat them with a little respect because you can be assured they get treated badly and looked down upon by a lot of other people. Just a little bit goes a really long way.......
Be safe!
Dennis P.(Pimpin') Rodmann - Dysfunctional Relationship Expert... :D
[QUOTE=Ts130]That being said, Can you guys offer me any tips in this? I do not go to strip clubs that often, so im not sure what ettiqutite is.
Thanks for all your advice, and I look forward to reading and perhaps becomming more involved in the community here![/QUOTE]
I agree with what Raynman55 posted. One workaround might be to let the stripper know she can invite two or three girlfriends or a male friend for safety. Just make sure you keep your valuables locked away.