[QUOTE=Mike Wazowski]For what it's worth, if a girl shows up with a driver and you do anything other than send her packing, you're more crazy than I am.[/QUOTE]Preach it, brother!
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[QUOTE=Mike Wazowski]For what it's worth, if a girl shows up with a driver and you do anything other than send her packing, you're more crazy than I am.[/QUOTE]Preach it, brother!
I don't understand why anyone would chance letting the girl past the front door if she brought a driver!! Alot of people have been ripped off and post about it! DUMB! I had a few of my old regs get ripped off by those girls!
[QUOTE=The Chronic]Preach it, brother![/QUOTE]
This lady looks intriguing. Has anyone seen her.
[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/ers/356653146.html[/url]
Ya think?
[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/ers/356586290.html[/url]
[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/ers/356571132.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Jethrow1]This lady looks intriguing. Has anyone seen her.
[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/ers/356653146.html[/url][/QUOTE]
She came across, to me, as a bit too eager. When I found she did not do incall, I told her that I was not able to see her that night but would look forward to seeing her within the week.
She started pushing to pick her up and get a hotel room.
It's one of my alarm bells when they are too eager to see you.
None the less, she is just about everything I love, appearance-wise. I'll probably take one for the team if no one reports on her soon.
Has anyone seen Riley listed on Craigs list? She sounds to good to be true?
Has anyone seen Riley? Would like to know what her sessions are about?
[QUOTE=Rollr33]Has anyone seen Riley? Would like to know what her sessions are about?[/QUOTE]Did you even try doing a search on CL first? It turned up this:
"I have seen Riley several times and I would not swear that those are not real photos. Maybe some are old? They may be misleading because she does not even try to be the sexy woman that the pics suggest,but she is NOT fake.I can't even imagine her stealing, she does provide. Maybe we are talking about two different people?" [url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/ers/344176254.html[/url]
"I have seen Riley twice, once as Riley and once as Vonya. Although she used two diffeerent names she still gave me great service the first, and a little rushed the second. All and all she is a good provider.She does not steal!" [url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/ers/344274654.html[/url]
or TER:
14 seperate reviews generally positive but somewhat mixed with mostly 6's-8's on appearance and performance with a couple of 3's ("barely worth the effort") thrown in. [url]http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=88099[/url]
"For what it's worth," to Mike (whose posts I otherwise greatly respect), Rstover, The Chronic, Retired Gfe et al, she reportedly uses a DRIVER for her outcalls (OMG!). AND for what it's worth, I happen to have been a driver for an escort at one point. I can't tell you what transpired once my girl went inside for her date. I can tell you I just waited quietly outside, slouched down in my car listening to music until she re-emerged an hour later. Sure my cut was $25 for my service. I'm not sure what she charged her clients though I'm sure driver expense was probably factored into it. OTOH, as clients we've pre-agreed to a rate in advance because we hope they'll be worth it. Why should we really care how it turns out they choose to split up their take? I'll agree that if a girl shows up with a driver and you [u]pay her and then let her leave your place to take the money out to the driver before you're done[/u], you're more crazy than I am, but just [u]showing up[/u] with a driver? I can tell you from personal experience that doesn't necessarily mean a thing.
While I, too, have an aversion to drivers, I also judge the lady herself. Thus call myself in the category of "never say NEVER. "
A lady I've seen numerous times showed up on our first date years ago with a driver. She was cute, I was horny, and their was NO "I need to give this gift to my driver, I'll be right back". BS. Instead, after a nice LFK, she explained that her "friend" would be back in an hour (which was confirmed as the driver drove off). She explained that she no longer has a drivers license, but still likes to meet interesting gentleman like ME. And we then moved on to another topic where we had LOADS of fun! When we were finished, she called on her cell, and 5 minutes later her ride re-appeared and innocently rode of into the sunset.
While I generally seek incall ladies anyway (or the occasional no-tell motel), this PARTICULAR lady had the right reasons and made the driver part a "no big deal" issue. In fact, I actually saw her last month.- at a time where she couldn't host, and knowing she was coming from Pasco would have to have a driver. Again, she was dropped off, and came back at the appointed time.- not lurking in someone's driveway attracting attention to others.
Just my humble opinion. Never say never.
[QUOTE=Chase Star]"For what it's worth," to Mike (whose posts I otherwise greatly respect), Rstover, The Chronic, Retired Gfe et al, she reportedly uses a DRIVER for her outcalls (OMG!). AND for what it's worth, I happen to have been a driver for an escort at one point. I can't tell you what transpired once my girl went inside for her date. [b]I can tell you I just waited quietly outside, slouched down in my car listening to music until she re-emerged an hour later.[/b] Sure my cut was $25 for my service. I'm not sure what she charged her clients though I'm sure driver expense was probably factored into it. OTOH, as clients we've pre-agreed to a rate in advance because we hope they'll be worth it. Why should we really care how it turns out they choose to split up their take? I'll agree that if a girl shows up with a driver and you [u]pay her and then let her leave your place to take the money out to the driver before you're done[/u], you're more crazy than I am, but just [u]showing up[/u] with a driver? I can tell you from personal experience that doesn't necessarily mean a thing.[/QUOTE]I guess opinions vary.
I, for one, do all I can to mitigate my exposure from possible bad situations. One way is a simple policy: you have a driver, I won't see you. Period. I don't care if the driver is the Dalai Lama or Matahma Ghandi. No driver.
The other is no personal info. Period. Yes, I suppose a girl could cull info from my home address where I see them, but I won't volunteer it. It gives me plausable deniability.
EVERY escort I have known says they want info and have a driver "for protection". That means if THEY feel threatened for any reason, they have a use for those tools. Not good for the guy.
Additionally, the LAST thing I want would be some guy slumped in the front seat of a car in my driveway. I do NOT want my neighbors seeing that.
Chase, I'm sure you're a great guy and all that, but don't you understand that admitting you have been a driver for a measly $25 makes you look a little like a suck up, a White Knight, a w#0re hanger-on? $25? WTF would you do that for such a pittance? You realize if a bust went down, you'd be fucked, right? A record, jail, car confiscated, the whole schmeer based on bad judgement and $25. Not really dissing you, guy, but c'mon. You shoulda left that factoid out.
Who reportedly uses a driver on outcalls? Not me! I have my own car, lol! Anyways everyone doesn have their own opinions! That's why it's nice to be able to read them and get your own idea from what you'ce read! "SMILE"
[QUOTE=Chase Star]Did you even try doing a search on CL first? It turned up this:
"I have seen Riley several times and I would not swear that those are not real photos. Maybe some are old? They may be misleading because she does not even try to be the sexy woman that the pics suggest,but she is NOT fake.I can't even imagine her stealing, she does provide. Maybe we are talking about two different people?" [url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/ers/344176254.html[/url]
"I have seen Riley twice, once as Riley and once as Vonya. Although she used two diffeerent names she still gave me great service the first, and a little rushed the second. All and all she is a good provider.She does not steal!" [url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/ers/344274654.html[/url]
or TER:
14 seperate reviews generally positive but somewhat mixed with mostly 6's-8's on appearance and performance with a couple of 3's ("barely worth the effort") thrown in. [url]http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=88099[/url]
"For what it's worth," to Mike (whose posts I otherwise greatly respect), Rstover, The Chronic, Retired Gfe et al, she reportedly uses a DRIVER for her outcalls (OMG!). AND for what it's worth, I happen to have been a driver for an escort at one point. I can't tell you what transpired once my girl went inside for her date. I can tell you I just waited quietly outside, slouched down in my car listening to music until she re-emerged an hour later. Sure my cut was $25 for my service. I'm not sure what she charged her clients though I'm sure driver expense was probably factored into it. OTOH, as clients we've pre-agreed to a rate in advance because we hope they'll be worth it. Why should we really care how it turns out they choose to split up their take? I'll agree that if a girl shows up with a driver and you [u]pay her and then let her leave your place to take the money out to the driver before you're done[/u], you're more crazy than I am, but just [u]showing up[/u] with a driver? I can tell you from personal experience that doesn't necessarily mean a thing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=The Chronic]I guess opinions vary.
I, for one, do all I can to mitigate my exposure from possible bad situations. One way is a simple policy: you have a driver, I won't see you. Period. I don't care if the driver is the Dalai Lama or Matahma Ghandi. No driver.
The other is no personal info. Period. Yes, I suppose a girl could cull info from my home address where I see them, but I won't volunteer it. It gives me plausable deniability.
EVERY escort I have known says they want info and have a driver "for protection". That means if THEY feel threatened for any reason, they have a use for those tools. Not good for the guy.
Additionally, the LAST thing I want would be some guy slumped in the front seat of a car in my driveway. I do NOT want my neighbors seeing that.
Chase, I'm sure you're a great guy and all that, but don't you understand that admitting you have been a driver for a measly $25 makes you look a little like a suck up, a White Knight, a w#0re hanger-on? $25? WTF would you do that for such a pittance? You realize if a bust went down, you'd be fucked, right? A record, jail, car confiscated, the whole schmeer based on bad judgement and $25. Not really dissing you, guy, but c'mon. You shoulda left that factoid out.[/QUOTE]I for one never trust these girls or there drivers. I mean do you really want them to no were you live. Even if you don't get ripped off by her or the driver. They still no were you live. And they no your phone number, If they get busted by the pig squad, which will happen sooner or later. They will give up there little black book, they have your phone number and your address. I for one don't want johnny the pimp hanging in my driveway, when I am banging away at one of his girls. I only seek out incalls which is very hard to find in the area were I live. I use a pre paid phone when I make the call. If they want my name and personal info when I call, I usually laugh, then I hang up.
[QUOTE=The Chronic]EVERY escort I have known says they want info and have a driver "for protection". That means if THEY feel threatened for any reason, they have a use for those tools. Not good for the guy.
Additionally, the LAST thing I want would be some guy slumped in the front seat of a car in my driveway. I do NOT want my neighbors seeing that.
Chase, I'm sure you're a great guy and all that, but don't you understand that admitting you have been a driver for a measly $25 makes you look a little like a suck up, a White Knight, a w#0re hanger-on? $25? WTF would you do that for such a pittance? You realize if a bust went down, you'd be fucked, right? A record, jail, car confiscated, the whole schmeer based on bad judgement and $25. Not really dissing you, guy, but c'mon. You shoulda left that factoid out.[/QUOTE]
A) I have no idea what EVERY escort you have known has said. Maybe they HAVE said they have a driver for protection. And MAYBE they DO have drivers for protection OR at least the FEELING of security knowing someone is out there that they can call IF a problem arises. Who can really blame them? Do you think they never get calls from what turns out to be drunk and/or abusive clients? If you were some 125lb spinner going into the homes of various guys who could be twice your size and have no problem taking advantage of that disparity, wouldn't you want some back-up ? Now are you yourself one of those guys? I certainly don't think so, but they're out there. If you're not planning to cause her any trouble why should the idea of some back-up muscle being a short call away bother you? I can tell you that in the short time I did this I was not called upon once for anything but to come around and pick her up at the end of the hour.
B) As a hobbyist, the LAST thing [b]I[/b] would want would be some guy slumped in the front seat of a car in [b]my[/b] driveway, which is why I never parked in any client's driveway or even in front of their house and never said I did. It was much more like the procedure described by Olds Man. Still I didn't want to call any more attention to myself than necessary just hanging out anywhere in a car. I figured laying with the seat all the way back (and thus my head below window height) while I caught a few z's or listened to some music was a lot more discrete than just sitting upright for anyone to see. If anyone came up and asked me what I was doing I'd have said I was resting while waiting for a friend (who must be running late), but that never happened. It was always dark and I'm sure no one ever even knew I was there.
C) I make much more than $25/hour now, but I'd hardly call $25/hr a pittance, If that were a fulltime job that would be $50K/yr (less expenses, of course, like gas which is much more expensive now than it was then, but most of my time was spent parked). And I wasn't doing it because I was a "suck up, a White Knight, a w#0re hanger-on". White knight!? Maybe if I did it for free. I did it for pay. You can quibble about whether it was a pittance or not. I did it for a) a little extra easy pocket money b) an easy job I could do in addition to my daytime primary source of revenue, where I could even sleep on the job if I wanted to c) not that it ever happened or that was even any major part of why I was doing it and call it being a w#0re hanger-on, but if I happened to get free pussy out of it in addition to being paid for my "work" I wouldn't have complained and d) as much as anything else I did it for all of 2 nights just to get a different perspective on this "hobby" that we're all a part of. And it was kind of an interesting experience talking to the girl as a non-client. Maybe you should try it too, it might open your mind up a little.
D) If a bust went down it would have meant absolutely nothing to me. As I said before I had no involvement in "what transpired once my girl went inside for her date". All I was hired and paid to do was drive someone someplace and as far as I know that is not a crime. Besides, any illegal act the girl committed happened inside someplace and not in my car so there'd be no basis for even confiscating my car. You guys take MUCH bigger risks of getting caught in your cars with your pants down when you pick up your SW's. The worst that any cop could really do if they really wanted to hassle me would to ticket me for illegal parking, which I was careful not to do, or perhaps loitering (in a car? is that even applicable?). If a cop ever came up to me for loitering, which again NEVER happened, I'm sure I'd simply apologize ("I was just waiting for someone, I didn't realize I couldn't wait here") and just be asked to move on with at worst a verbal warning. And, in the long shot I ever WAS arrested for the ridiculous "crime" of being a hired driver of someone who happened to commit a crime while not even in my vehicle, I'm sure the case would be dropped long before it ever came to trial. Talk about plausible deniability, being outside in some car, affords far greater plausible deniability than you could ever have inside where the crime is actually committed.
E) Not dissing me? Should of left that factoid out? Saying I "look a little like a suck up, a White Knight, a w#0re hanger-on" sounds like disdain to me. I thought before sharing what I did, just as I thought before signing up to drive. I'm not sure you really thought before you made that post. I thought about it and don't see it as anything to be somehow ashamed of. Maybe if that was all I ever did in life. But I found it to be a very interesting experience to check out for a little while instead of just sitting at home at night watching some stupid show on TV. And instead of casting value judgements of others on this board (like "certain people" seem to do) it was just another way to help me see some things from another's perspective much better.
OK I rarely do this, but this CL ad pushed me over.
Has anyone by ANY chance seen this provider? Or what is y'all's take on this CL ad? The old adage "too good to be true" comes to mind, especially since she had an early ad for $175 that was either flagged off or removed.
If she's for real, this is a huge bargain.
Opinions?
[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/ers/359793240.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Florida Monger II]OK I rarely do this, but this CL ad pushed me over.
Has anyone by ANY chance seen this provider? Or what is y'all's take on this CL ad? The old adage "too good to be true" comes to mind, especially since she had an early ad for $175 that was either flagged off or removed.
If she's for real, this is a huge bargain.
Opinions?
[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/ers/359793240.html[/url][/QUOTE]
If it looks (or sounds) too good to be true, it's not.
I have only an opinion.
I can see why you went over. I would too.
A girl with a bod like that will advert on major escorts sites and get $500/hr, minimum AND she will get it.
My first guess is that those are not the real pics.
If it really is her, my bet is that those are old pics and that her bod has taken a beating.
This is truely one of those times I hope I'm wrong.
Be real careful.