Ripoff Reports

[QUOTE=SmileyScout;1557906]I didn't get her age, but I'm almost positive she was under 27. I guess I'll have to start culling the younger women too, although it seems like most of the CGs are in their 20's. Maybe I'll just avoid the CGs completely.[/QUOTE]Age, race, tats. There's no telling who might try to scam you. Shit she could have just as easily pretended to be a civvie and done the same shit.

This is one of the risks in this hobby. CG's, SW's even Escorts (shit even the well reviewed ones) can rip you off. Accept it, or find a new hobby all together.

Now for future reference (I'll admit, this takes some balls) : Someone gives you shit like this, pick up the phone and dial security. Tell them someone is refusing to leave you room. 99% chance she'll bolt. 1% she doesn't, security will be on your side and extremely unlikely anything will happen but they escort her from the casino. She asked you to take her to your room for a drink and then she extorted you. That's the story ever time.

The texting would have been a big redflag, normally they are talking and laughing trying to make sure you don't get scared and back out.

[QUOTE=Seville;1557771]Not that I want to add to the racist theme that seems to be going on regarding Smiley's unfortunate experience but his experience is exactly why I only hobby with asian girls. But I don't trust any CG and would never bring back to my room. Not only are asian girls hotter than other girls but they aim to please also. Seems to be a cultural thing. When was the last time any of you had a black / white / hispanic girl give you a great massage right after you had a BBBJCIM? And that's why I love asian girls.[/QUOTE]Or put your shoes and socks on for you?

[QUOTE=SmileyScout; 1557080]I just got back from Vegas and this was the worst ripoff I've ever had by far.

It was Sunday night and a CG came up to me while I was sitting at the machines in Luxor near the walkway to Mandalay Place. She said her name was Angie, she's thin, on the tall side (probably 5'8" or 5'9") , shoulder-length black hair and tribal tattoos on both sides of her neck. She wanted $$$$$, we agreed on $.5. She was texting on her phone the entire time we walked back to the room and wouldn't talk to me at all (should have been a red flag).

We walked back to Mandalay Bay and when we got into to the room she immediately went into the bathroom and locked the door. I figured she was just cleaning up so I left her alone. It was about ten minutes before she came out again. The first thing she did was take a picture of me with her phone, then she said "Give me $$$$$ or I'll say you raped me." I had to prove to her that I didn't have that much (I had a little over $$). When I showed her how much I had she snatched the money out of my hand and ran out of the room.

I probably didn't handle it very well but what the hell was I supposed to do?[/QUOTE]Learn from the past. Every phone has a cam so use it in your defense and don't allow yourself to be bullied.

A quick call to security would have solved the problem and likely they could have reversed roles and bullied her to delete photo of you the 86'd her from all of their properties.

[QUOTE=Demoknitex;1557845]Seriously? I've seen all kinds of people, males and females of all races usually under 40 with neck tattoos.[/QUOTE]First off. If a dude has neck tats he's either stupid or a gang member. If a woman has neck tats, she's owned by a gang member. NEVER, NEVER monger with a chick with neck tats. Your going to get either rolled or shot.

[QUOTE=Seville;1562181]First off. If a dude has neck tats he's either stupid or a gang member. If a woman has neck tats, she's owned by a gang member. NEVER, NEVER monger with a chick with neck tats. Your going to get either rolled or shot.[/QUOTE]I am happy to say that I have never had an issue with ladies with tats neck or otherwise. We all need to be careful but to say such a broad statement isn't fair. If you know of one in particular then by all means share the info.

Just my thoughts.

Now I know someone will trounce me as I'm a provider and they always say we only post to scare guys away from CWs. I hear things a lot, but this was just 2 nights ago and take if as it's meant, precautionary. In Vegas there is work for everyone, I certainly do not care if guys pickup CWs, SWs whatever, but do be careful.

This report has been on several other boards:

"Everyone I don't have all details because my regular client does not want to say he is very embrassed and was hurt really bad!

A casino girl going by Diana blonde 5'9 average size working TI approached him and he thought she was very nice sexy and real. She told him even though he had a room, he needed to go to her incall. Basically he was jumped, beaten and robbed. Broken ribs and bones etc. Please warn guys don't go with casino girls.

I feel bad for him and he says he knew better!

Please let the big head do the thinking!"

There were also reports of the lady at the Wynn and Encore.

Be safe.

AM

[QUOTE=AngellaMasters; 1567778]Now I know someone will trounce me as I'm a provider and they always say we only post to scare guys away from CWs. I hear things a lot, but this was just 2 nights ago and take if as it's meant, precautionary. In Vegas there is work for everyone, I certainly do not care if guys pickup CWs, SWs whatever, but do be careful.

This report has been on several other boards:

"Everyone I don't have all details because my regular client does not want to say he is very embrassed and was hurt really bad!

A casino girl going by Diana blonde 5'9 average size working TI approached him and he thought she was very nice sexy and real. She told him even though he had a room, he needed to go to her incall. Basically he was jumped, beaten and robbed. Broken ribs and bones etc. Please warn guys don't go with casino girls.

I feel bad for him and he says he knew better!

Please let the big head do the thinking!"

There were also reports of the lady at the Wynn and Encore.

Be safe.

AM[/QUOTE]I wouldn't go so far as to say don't see CW, but I pretty much avoid incalls these days. It's always on my territory. They "probably" would not have tried to pull that off in a hotel in the resort corridor. Also, what would have happened if he was packing heat and just brandished?

[QUOTE=Demoknitex;1567863]I wouldn't go so far as to say don't see CW, but I pretty much avoid incalls these days. It's always on my territory. They "probably" would not have tried to pull that off in a hotel in the resort corridor. Also, what would have happened if he was packing heat and just brandished?[/QUOTE]It's important to do your homework, research or whatever I always do incall never outcall because it's my preference being streetsmart and having high common sense should keep you out of trouble plus being a younger guy people think 2x about messing with you b/c they see that they have easier pickings with the older guys. Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=AngellaMasters; 1567778]A casino girl going by Diana blonde 5'9 average size working TI approached him and he thought she was very nice sexy and real. She told him even though he had a room, he needed to go to her incall. Basically he was jumped, beaten and robbed. Broken ribs and bones etc. Please warn guys don't go with casino girls.

/QUOTE]This one is really way out there. I would probably not go back to a CG's place the very first time I see her. That said, I have been to a CG's house (She needed to let her dog out) , but that was on a repeat visit. The first time I met her we had done the deed in my hotel room. I called her on a return visit to Vegas, and that was when we went to her house and I was not mugged. She drove us to her place and drove me back to the casino.

I have also ridden in a different CG's car. We met at one hotel, and I was staying elsewhere, so I agreed to a ride in her car back to my hotel. I lived to tell. At no time did I feel threatened in the two different situations I described, but that is me. We should make our individual calls, but I do appreciate the ones who have shared their Vegas nightmares here.

[QUOTE=AngellaMasters; 1567778]Now I know someone will trounce me as I'm a provider and they always say we only post to scare guys away from CWs. I hear things a lot, but this was just 2 nights ago and take if as it's meant, precautionary. In Vegas there is work for everyone, I certainly do not care if guys pickup CWs, SWs whatever, but do be careful.

This report has been on several other boards:

"Everyone I don't have all details because my regular client does not want to say he is very embrassed and was hurt really bad!

A casino girl going by Diana blonde 5'9 average size working TI approached him and he thought she was very nice sexy and real. She told him even though he had a room, he needed to go to her incall. Basically he was jumped, beaten and robbed. Broken ribs and bones etc. Please warn guys don't go with casino girls.

I feel bad for him and he says he knew better!

Please let the big head do the thinking!"

There were also reports of the lady at the Wynn and Encore.

Be safe.

AM[/QUOTE]Sounds more like a "don't go to the home of random strangers, especially to conduct illegal business" situation than "don't go with casino girls". Frankly this warns me more off incall than anything else.

The beauty of CG's is that you control the environment and are located in a place where you are protected from shit like this.

The customer, if he exists, is an idiot.

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Gets you in her room then she have her pimp with a gun rob you.

I was messing around in the Internet and googled my name, sadielicious, and found it here in the ripoff section? Well I'm the sadie that moved from Cali to Vegas, and someone must have stolen my pics or something because not on vp, and all my pics on my red book are up to date. Just wanted to clear that up!

Thank you

This is hard to write. In fact, I wasn't going to do so, but after a couple of weeks of reflection decided that I owed it to others as a warning.

First of all, I have always read the forum thoroughly and consider myself a knowledgeable, careful, and intelligent monger; you might disagree with the last two descriptors after reading the following.

I was staying at a mid-level hotel / casino for a five day stretch, which I had hoped would include a little luck besides that at the tables. One afternoon I was going back to my room when by chance I got on an elevator with two AA stripper-like gals. One was about 30 and would rate a 5 on the stripper scale; the other seemed 20 and was a solid 9. Sure enough, they were strippers at SR and staying at the hotel, which was true since they showed a room card just like I did at the security desk. I was not at all planning on an encounter, but this was a 'target of opportunity, ' so to speak. Long story short, we agreed on $ for a couple of dances and a CBJ in my room. I indicated that I only wanted the 20 y / o, but the other insisted on coming along. I relented, something I'd never done before. Classic case of little head vs. big head.

I employed some caution by us all stripping down and I sitting in a chair next to a dresser, with my pants on the floor in sort of a triangle between my chair and the dresser. (I remembered reading about a monger who had his pants around his ankles during a BJ and getting pickpocketed during the deed. I was too smart for that!) They wanted the $ upfront, but I already had it out of my pants and placed it next to me on the dresser and said 'That's yours when we're done. '

When it was all over my wallet was emptied of $900, my entire bankroll for the week. I've replayed things a dozen times and all I can come up with is this scenario. The older one started the BJ and the younger one danced behind her and then to my side, but the opposite side of my pants. The younger one then took over, and the older one went to the bathroom, which I thought was odd but then I got a tad distracted by the younger one's skills. I'm sure that the older one came out of the bathroom, slithered along the wall (maybe even along the floor) , reached behind my chair, and emptied my wallet in seconds before putting it back in my pants pocket. All credit cards, license, etc, were still in the wallet.

We were done, they gave me their room number for future reference, and said our goodbyes. I cleaned up and got dressed. (I actually felt for my wallet right after the BJ, and it was there, so I was unconcerned.) For whatever reason, when I was ready to leave the room I opened my wallet and was shocked / sickened. I'm a person of modest means, so that $900 was a huge amount, and its loss ruined my week. I immediately went to the floor they were supposedly staying on to challenge them, but the room numbers didn't go as high as the one they had given me. Of course, I actually had no chance of success, since they had only my money in their possession, and they'd claim that it was theirs, that I had actually paid them 1000 rather than 100, or whatever. Calling security clearly would have gotten me nowhere, except for maybe getting them blackballed from the property. I was on the lookout for them in the casino for the next few days, but my challenging them would have been to no avail, and I knew that. I at least wanted to tell them that Karma would get them, but they would have simply said "Who the fuk is she"?

Never, ever deviate from the rules of mongering. My mistake of letting the second one in the room cost me big time. Also, I would never keep that kind of money on me for an encounter like this, but it wasn't a planned event; again, I paid the price for breaking one of the rules. These two were very good at being bad. I have experience, but they obviously have more, and now they have my money as well.

Thanks Robert, I am sure your report will help someone. I think most of us have let the little head do the thinking from time to time. Let's face it this hobby is frought with risks. I am sure you were aware of what could have happened but you decided to chance it and it didn't work out. Stories like yours are invaluable. Sorry for your misfortune. Hopefully, there is such a thing as Karma and they will pay for their despicable act.

[QUOTE=Robert387; 1661342]This is hard to write. In fact, I wasn't going to do so, but after a couple of weeks of reflection decided that I owed it to others as a warning.

First of all, I have always read the forum thoroughly and consider myself a knowledgeable, careful, and intelligent monger; you might disagree with the last two descriptors after reading the following.

I was staying at a mid-level hotel / casino for a five day stretch, which I had hoped would include a little luck besides that at the tables. One afternoon I was going back to my room when by chance I got on an elevator with two AA stripper-like gals. One was about 30 and would rate a 5 on the stripper scale; the other seemed 20 and was a solid 9. Sure enough, they were strippers at SR and staying at the hotel, which was true since they showed a room card just like I did at the security desk. I was not at all planning on an encounter, but this was a 'target of opportunity, ' so to speak. Long story short, we agreed on $ for a couple of dances and a CBJ in my room. I indicated that I only wanted the 20 why / o, but the other insisted on coming along. I relented, something I'd never done before. Classic case of little head vs. Big head.

I employed some caution by us all stripping down and I sitting in a chair next to a dresser, with my pants on the floor in sort of a triangle between my chair and the dresser. (I remembered reading about a monger who had his pants around his ankles during a BJ and getting pickpocketed during the deed. I was too smart for that!) They wanted the $ upfront, but I already had it out of my pants and placed it next to me on the dresser and said 'That's yours when we're done. '

When it was all over my wallet was emptied of $900, my entire bankroll for the week. I've replayed things a dozen times and all I can come up with is this scenario. The older one started the BJ and the younger one danced behind her and then to my side, but the opposite side of my pants. The younger one then took over, and the older one went to the bathroom, which I thought was odd but then I got a tad distracted by the younger one's skills. I'm sure that the older one came out of the bathroom, slithered along the wall (maybe even along the floor) , reached behind my chair, and emptied my wallet in seconds before putting it back in my pants pocket. All credit cards, license, etc, were still in the wallet.

We were done, they gave me their room number for future reference, and said our goodbyes. I cleaned up and got dressed. (I actually felt for my wallet right after the BJ, and it was there, so I was unconcerned.) For whatever reason, when I was ready to leave the room I opened my wallet and was shocked / sickened. I'm a person of modest means, so that $900 was a huge amount, and its loss ruined my week. I immediately went to the floor they were supposedly staying on to challenge them, but the room numbers didn't go as high as the one they had given me. Of course, I actually had no chance of success, since they had only my money in their possession, and they'd claim that it was theirs, that I had actually paid them 1000 rather than 100, or whatever. Calling security clearly would have gotten me nowhere, except for maybe getting them blackballed from the property. I was on the lookout for them in the casino for the next few days, but my challenging them would have been to no avail, and I knew that. I at least wanted to tell them that Karma would get them, but they would have simply said "Who the fuk is she"?

Never, ever deviate from the rules of mongering. My mistake of letting the second one in the room cost me big time. Also, I would never keep that kind of money on me for an encounter like this, but it wasn't a planned event; again, I paid the price for breaking one of the rules. These two were very good at being bad. I have experience, but they obviously have more, and now they have my money as well.[/QUOTE]

That really does suck, but don't be so hard on yourself. At least you weren't arrested or hurt.

[QUOTE=Robert387; 1661342]This is hard to write. In fact, I wasn't going to do so, but after a couple of weeks of reflection decided that I owed it to others as a warning.

First of all, I have always read the forum thoroughly and consider myself a knowledgeable, careful, and intelligent monger; you might disagree with the last two descriptors after reading the following.

I was staying at a mid-level hotel / casino for a five day stretch...[/QUOTE]