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I am not a Dr and I also do not have a agenda in the discussion, but have read reports that Herpes is only transmitted when there is a outbreak and telltail signs. I do not know, but this is what I had read and had also heard form a nurse friend. I know there are conflicting opinions from Dr's and people. Therefore it is still a chance I really do not take when it is a known fact and will not if I know.

I became friends with Heidi as she seemed to be a nice lady and was some what hurting personally. And she had some really nice ladies working from her home.

My relationship with her has always been just friends, did not have sex with her as she is much larger than what I prefer. She knew this and I saw some ladies she had working from her homes.

I used to visit there and saw the very petite little blonde MILF that is no longer publicly working. Also that is where the little blonde from Tallahassee, Cheyanne that many of you remember and saw started out here in Atlanta. Heidi has had many good lookers working at her places. But I have not ventured there in years. I do not enjoy drama and avoid it if at all possible.

Wet Dreams, PW






[QUOTE=Aaglen]I think Biz's point is that if you KNOW someone has an active disease that you CAN pick up via BBBJ, why would you knowingly increase your odds of infection?

I personally would much rather have BBBJ, and I'm willing to take the risk with an unknown provider - BUT if I KNOW she has herpes, I wouldn't call her in the first place.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pwhipped]I am not a Dr and I also do not have a agenda in the discussion, but have read reports that Herpes is only transmitted when there is a outbreak and telltail signs.[/QUOTE]

Nobody "has an agenda" in this discussion. The woman has Herpes and every post by her should include that fact. She does not include that info in her posts so it is our responsibility to keep this information public so that nobody is caught unaware. Whether she is a nice person or not has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.

Despite what anyone may have heard from a friend who is a nurse or whatever, Herpes can be transmitted in between outbreaks. It is well documented and the CDC has issued warnings in this regard. This statement is especially pertinent to this discussion.

"HSV-1 and HSV-2 can be found in and released from the sores that the viruses cause, but they also are released between outbreaks from skin that does not appear to be broken or to have a sore. Generally, a person can only get HSV-2 infection during sexual contact with someone who has a genital HSV-2 infection. Transmission can occur from an infected partner who does not have a visible sore and may not know that he or she is infected."

[url]http://www.cdc.gov/std/Herpes/STDFact-Herpes.htm#Howspread[/url]

[QUOTE=Bizrulez]The woman has Herpes and every post by her should include that fact. She does not include that info in her posts so it is our responsibility[/QUOTE]

I have to totally disagree with that statement. If you are fucking a provider, there is always a chance they could have Herpes or some other STD. I don't expect anyone to disclose that information and I'm sure 99% of providers do not..

Just wear a condom for FS and keep your fingers crossed...that what most guys do.

And I have to take the opposite stance. You can't trust a provider with a STD to be upfront about it - bad for business. But in principal an infected provider SHOULD disclose that fact. If I found out someone I was with was indeed infected and neglected to tell me, I'd be pissed as hell.

Re. "Herpes Heidi", she should indeed include her status in the fine print. There are a lot of guys with herpes, so she should still be able to keep a client base.

Well, I can see your point of view even if I don't agree with it in this particular case.

I'm surprised I've never gotten Herpes unless I'm a silent carrier or something...I've fucked about 35+ women bareback. So either I've been very lucky or it's somewhat difficult to transmit (or maybe do I have it and just don't have symptoms).

I've never fucked a provider without a condom, but one did break on three occasions. One two of those occasions, I realized it within seconds (and washed up and put on a new one), but the other time, it probably took me about a minute, which is a long time in that situation.

I use these Trojan Supra condoms and they are very thin. I'm thinking of using a thicker one with providers because it feels about the same and I'd like to cut down on the risk.

I've gotten BBBJs from about 100 women and like I said, I don't worry about that at all, but I'm thinking maybe I should start to be at least a little discriminating with that. CBJ is not a desirable option, but I should probably just forgo oral in some cases.

[QUOTE=Peter Johnson]I'm surprised I've never gotten Herpes unless I'm a silent carrier or something...I've fucked about 35+ women bareback. So either I've been very lucky or it's somewhat difficult to transmit (or maybe do I have it and just don't have symptoms).[/QUOTE]

This just proves my BS response to the previous post that 99% of the people cheat and 99% have STD's. That is not the case. I have had sex with over 500 different women and I don't have STD's and I do get tested regularly.

Bottom line is if it is a known fact that a provider has HERPES or any other STD, it should be publicized because we know she is not going to tell you. I will take a chance getting a BBBJ from a stranger but I sure as hell won't take a chance getting one from somebody I KNOW HAS A STD.

Well, that's a good point that if the provider isn't going to tell you, then there's nothing wrong with a friend (even an Internet "friend") telling you so you can be extra careful.

And yeah, probably smart not to push your luck and get a BBBJ from a known STD carrier if you can avoid it easily.

Well just damn. I am glad to see that I have made your hot topic list.

Gents anyone that knows me knows that I have nothing to hide. I have never denied or ever tried to hide my situation.

I have made posts on TER and on Big Dog in the past so I guess it is time to do it here too.

I have had herpes since I was 19. I was pregnant when I found out and I can promise you I had a limited number of partners. I didn't get it from this business since I have only been in the business for going on 4 years. I am 36 now. You do the math.

I do take Valtrex for my situation. (for those that need to know)

I have found it interesting reading for those here that will say they have never been with me. LOL funny I can tell you specifics about yourself naked. LOL

When I first started this I spoke openly about it to those that I got close to. It was put on a board and I was confronted publically and I had no problem stepping up to the plate and admiting it even though hobbiest were telling me not to do it that I was commiting suicide doing so. Well I am here to tell you that has not been the case. I have done well since then and oddly enough many of the ladies that have worked with me are suprised that I work much more than they do.

For along time, anytime someone would call me I would make sure they knew up front. As time went by it seemed that everyone knew already and I stoped bringing it up unless they did. Now when someone asks me if I am D & D free I tell them my deal and to date it has only affected a hand full of people. Most, not becasue of the Herpes but more because I am not really their type.

I am not here to hurt anyone. I know first hand what herpes is all about and I do not wish it on anyone. I have not had an outbreak in many years. When for some reason I even think I might have a problem I do not work. LOL To add some humor I had a unique feel around the first of the year of which I went to my OB, only to have him laugh at me. My meds were fine. It was an in-grown hair. Imagine that. But I knew my body enough to know something did not feel right and I am responsible enough to take care and play safe.

I have NEVER had any signs of fever blisters on or in my mouth. Those are the ladies you should really be concerned with giving you a BBBJ. You should not have uncoverd sex with anyone but your personal partner. I can't tell you the number of gents that have confided in me they have this and OMG there are more than a few of the ladies that have shared their stories with me. Many want to talk openly about it but know that I have been crucified for doing so, so they remain silet and at the top of the charts. I even had a gent call me that had NEVER saw me asking about the details becasue of a lady he had been with and was concerned with some issues he was having. So other than making the 'hot topic list' I can at least help and educate.

Here is my personal deal. When I first got this I was 19. There was no medication for it other than a creme that was to help with pain. Later Valtrex came out and I asked my Dr about it and he told me I didn't need it. I was married and only with one partner and I rarely ever had an outbreak. I might have a problem once every 12 to 15 months. I didn't use protection with my husband and he NEVER got it. It was when I started doing this that I really thought more about the Valtrex. Even though I didn't have more outbreaks there were more studies that now say you can pass it anytime. My Dr and many other health professionals will still tell you that you can not pass this unless you are having symptoms. I think we are all adult enough to make an 'educated guess' that there is a such thing as drug propoganda (sp). I truly in my heart think I waste my money each month for those pills. I believe that those studies are only there to sell a drug to make rich people richer. However, I have no proof of my theory. So I take them just in case.

What I would be more concerned with than 'herpes heidi' are those ladies that are on drugs. Those that play with out condoms. Those that are simply playing unsafe. You all know they are out there. You all know those ladies that tell you that YOU are special so that is why you get special treatment. My favorites are those that have to get drunk or druged up to see you, then do you think she really wants to be there. If you want to take that risk then that is by all means your choice. But do not assume just becasue she has not chose to be honest as I have that you are safe.

Another thing. I can provide you test results saying I am completely clean. Keep in mind that unless requested, Herpes is NOT on the check for list. Many have it and it never shows up. From what I have been told unless there is a sore to culture you will never know.

I have a great reputation in this hobby with this one little exception. With that said, what would you guys have me do differently. What would make you feel safe and stop with the 'gossip' behind my back. I am here asking as a woman, I am not name calling or starting drama I just want it to stop.

I am NOT going away. It has been proven time and time again that what I offer many men are seeking and I truly enjoy giving to them. I am real and I love people. Those of you that do not know me. I challange you to get to know me. If you are afraid of me becasue of the Herpes then don't see me as a client. Lets go have lunch or just sit and talk. Learn about ME not just the rumor than I have herpes.

Oh Yeah. One more thing. Those that don't like me because I am fat, get over yourself. I am who I am and I am comfortable in my own skin and those that see me like me for who I am.

Believe it or not I really do give the absolute best head. Those that will argue then you should come see me. ; -) LOL

Love to all. Xoxox's HEIDI

Hi Heidi, it is nice of you to respond. Some people here seem to think that someone with an STD is practically radioactive, but I agree that as long as you are relatively safe, the chances of transmitting anything are very slim.

And I'm sure many other providers have STDs and just haven't been "outed" as such. It is nice of you to be so upfront about it, but I still don't think it's necessary to disclose beforehand if the guy is using a condom for FS, as it sounds like they always do with you.

Something like 95% of people (male and female) have oral Herpes and that is clearly the one to be concerned about with BBBJs.

who told Heidi to even join this site? This site is NOT about defending providers. It IS about sharing information so mongers may find quality providers. Nothing more, nothing less.

So let's drop the soap opera and get back to basics.

No offense Heidi, but if you aren't sharing info, no news is good news.

[QUOTE=Peter Johnson]Hi Heidi, it is nice of you to respond. Some people here seem to think that someone with an STD is practically radioactive, but I agree that as long as you are relatively safe, the chances of transmitting anything are very slim.

And I'm sure many other providers have STDs and just haven't been "outed" as such. It is nice of you to be so upfront about it, but I still don't think it's necessary to disclose beforehand if the guy is using a condom for FS, as it sounds like they always do with you.

Something like 95% of people (male and female) have oral Herpes and that is clearly the one to be concerned about with BBBJs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Captain94]who told Heidi to even join this site? This site is NOT about defending providers. It IS about sharing information so mongers may find quality providers. Nothing more, nothing less.

No offense Heidi, but if you aren't sharing info, no news is good news.[/QUOTE]

Well, she did share a lot of info in her post, which is why I liked it.

I actually found your post refreshing - and found myself wincing at having willingly used the "herpes Heidi" nickname that has been floating around for a few years. I apologize.

It's true you've made no secret of her status, and I can respect you for that. I don't think I knew that there were meds that could control outbreaks, or that it had been so long since you HAD an outbreak.

I will say that it is unlikely I will ever see you "professionally". Even though the intellectual reasons for me not to worry about infection are sound, I simply don't think I'd be able to perform with that "what if?" awareness in the back of my mind.

Good luck!

Oh and BTW guys - you should never assume that the women don't see what's been said about them on this board. USG is NOT a "men only" board.

[QUOTE=Heidi]Well just damn. I am glad to see that I have made your hot topic list.

Gents anyone that knows me knows that I have nothing to hide. I have never denied or ever tried to hide my situation.[/QUOTE]

LOL... classic post.

[QUOTE=Heidi] Now when someone asks me if I am D & D free I tell them my deal and to date it has only affected a hand full of people. Most, not becasue of the Herpes but more because I am not really their type.[/QUOTE]

My guess is that more often or not, the people who turn you down are doing it because of the Herpes, providing they asked you first. "Not my type" is a euphamism for "hell no" and is nothing more than polite rejection. Don't take my word for it though - and feel free to tell yourself anything you want if it makes you feel better.

[QUOTE=Heidi] What would make you feel safe and stop with the 'gossip' behind my back. I am here asking as a woman, I am not name calling or starting drama I just want it to stop.[/QUOTE]

You said you're not going anywhere, and neither is this board. We're here to provide information to each other about providers. You're a provider, you're infected with a STD, you're going to get mentioned, period. You want [b]us[/b] to stop? That's a nice sentiment, but about as realistic as the CDC announcing that HIV isn't a virus or my running into the Pope at a gangbang at the local porn theater. If you don't like what is being said about you, tough shit. You don't like that we mention your disease and proclivity to infect unsuspecting mongers, do what I did. Go to Medical School. I chose not to practice medicine, but maybe you will and maybe you'll find a cure for Herpes. And when you do, we'll be sure to mention in here.

[QUOTE=Heidi] Even though I didn't have more outbreaks there were more studies that now say you can pass it anytime. My Dr and many other health professionals will still tell you that you can not pass this unless you are having symptoms.[/QUOTE]

Your Doctor is a fucking moron. Get a new one, you can afford it. "Many other health professionals?" : Name one. I fucking dare you.

[QUOTE=Heidi] Learn about ME not just the rumor than I have herpes.[/QUOTE]

If it is true, [b][i]AND IT IS[/i][/b], it isn't a rumor.

That you can call it a rumor at all, that you can delude yourself into thinking that Valtrex is a corporate conspiracy, that you think you can't transmit a virus at any time: these are the reasons you and other providers will be mentioned and discussed on this board. The purpose of this forum is not to placate you, even if you join and mention that you want it to stop. The purpose of this forum is for men to provide and share information to help us find women for sex. Now what kind of monger would I be if I didn't mention that a provider being mentioned has Herpes? Answer: a more honest and altruistic monger than the provider in question. (that would be you)

There are purists that are opposed to providers being members here at all; I am not one of them - but only because I know that in this age of communication there are no secrets and that information wants to be free.
Providers have been reading this forum as long as it has been around. That won't change. Occasionally, one of you steps up to the plate, and I think that's fine too, but if you're going to spew adolescent crap about STD's etc. you're going to be waiting along time before you are no longer a topic of conversation. And if it's respect that you want, well, the only way to get it here is to post content and intel, it doesn't matter who you are. For example: If I am coming to HotLanta for business, would you recommend me a provider who doesn't have Herpes? Never mind, I'll take the most often mentioned advice on the forum: RTFF.


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Actually, the Centers for Disease Control, who is the source of the information at [url]http://www.cdc.gov/std/Herpes/STDFact-Herpes.htm#Howspread[/url] is not in the business of selling drugs and never has been,

The Centers for Disease Control "fact sheet" clearly states,

"Generally, a person can only get HSV-2 infection during sexual contact with someone who has a genital HSV-2 infection. Transmission can occur from an infected partner who does not have a visible sore and may not know that he or she is infected."

And to emphasize, "Transmission can occur from an infected partner who does not have a visible sore".

Also at [url]http://www.ashastd.org/herpes/herpes_learn_questions.cfm[/url] it states,

"Genital herpes can be transmitted sexually both when symptoms are present and sometimes when symptoms are not present."

"There are several days throughout the year (called asymptomatic reactivation, asymptomatic shedding, or subclinical shedding) when the virus may be present on the surface of the skin, but there are no symptoms. Herpes can be passed through sexual contact during this time."

" Asymptomatic shedding applies to the following situations: 1) some lesions are overlooked because they occur in places we simply never look or can't see; 2) some are mistaken for something else—an ingrown hair, for example; and 3) some can't be seen at all with the naked eye. "

NOTE THE SECOND REFERENCE TO AN -- INGROWN HAIR -- ACTUALLY BEING A SIGN OF ASYMPTOMATIC SHEDDING WHICH IS A TIME A PERSON CAN BE CONTAGIOUS. Heidi's doctor said she was not having a HSV-2 occurence, just an INGROWN HAIR. Hmmmm! Might want to get a more knowledgeable doctor.

Both of the references I have cited are not out to sell drugs, but are research institutes.

And FINALLY, Heidi said she is taking VALTREX. The following is right off of the main page of the VALTREX web site.

"There is no cure for herpes, and even with treatment, it may be possible to spread herpes. VALTREX may not prevent all recurrences."

Bottom line is every partner should be made aware that the other person has an STD without having to ask. After that it is up to them to decide if they want to accept the risk or not.