"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

Hey guys, I've now cleared some Inbox space; sorry for the confusion.

One of my SA favorites has a room Friday night just south of Atlanta and is taking appointments. DM me and I'll get you details. Young, white, thin, great ass, bare.

I am not going to use my credit card to sign up for SA site. Wanted to ask the team what cards did you use to pay for SA premium and anything to watch out for?

Make a dummy PayPal account then send money to that account using your PayPal account you use regularly. And Pay with dummy.

[QUOTE=Manzanito;3522325]I am not going to use my credit card to sign up for SA site. Wanted to ask the team what cards did you use to pay for SA premium and anything to watch out for?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manzanito;3522325]I am not going to use my credit card to sign up for SA site. Wanted to ask the team what cards did you use to pay for SA premium and anything to watch out for?[/QUOTE]I've always paid with my personal AMEX card, never a problem. They even have it stored for quick renewal. The item on your bill says something else. NOT SA.

[QUOTE=VegaWrap;3511365]Has anyone had sensualkitty97 ?

They want a crazy allowance but they look TGTBT. Claiming to be 20 year old models. Some of these girls don't look enough like their pics when you meet them. This one seems legit enough.

Anyone have a review?[/QUOTE]An immediate red flag to me is that she's only 19 but has had this SA account for 2 years and 7 months. Hmmm, that doesn't add up to me!

Safe mongering and sugaring!

[QUOTE=Jaybirds;3522189]Hey guys, I've now cleared some Inbox space; sorry for the confusion.

One of my SA favorites has a room Friday night just south of Atlanta and is taking appointments. DM me and I'll get you details. Young, white, thin, great ass, bare.[/QUOTE]Your box is full again.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=RWarNmsn69;3522702]An immediate red flag to me is that she's only 19 but has had this SA account for 2 years and 7 months. Hmmm, that doesn't add up to me!

Safe mongering and sugaring![/QUOTE]If you follow Vegas Wrap all through the threads, you will see that he met with them and hit a jackpot. In one post, he placed some pictures. He said they are pricey, but definitely model material. He rate one 10/10 and another as 9/10. I am not on SA, but I sure would like to hook if I had all the contact info.

Recently joined SA on advice of seniors. Did have luck in finding but the price is too much like 350. And is only 5/10. Problem is I am getting the question asking to name the price and later they are adding 50-100 based on additions. I know a good sales person would know how to sell. But I am very new to this, appreciate inputs and go easy on me guys.

[QUOTE=Manzanito;3522325]I am not going to use my credit card to sign up for SA site. Wanted to ask the team what cards did you use to pay for SA premium and anything to watch out for?[/QUOTE]Buy a prepaid Visa with cash. It will cost you an extra 5. 99 or thereabouts, but it works.

[QUOTE=FirmOffer;3522679]I've always paid with my personal AMEX card, never a problem. They even have it stored for quick renewal. The item on your bill says something else. NOT SA.[/QUOTE]This is exactly how people got outed with Ashley Madison. You have no way of knowing how secure their site is and these sites are prime targets for a hack because every guy is blackmail material or some so called social justice cause. I'd strongly advise that you use a prepaid visa and a fake name. I did that and had no issues.

I second this. You can also just link a credit card to the dummy PayPal account and pay using that. The charge will appear as W8 Tech Limited on your PayPal statement and as PayPal *[URL]W8TECH.COM[/URL] on your CC statement.

[QUOTE=Grizzly383;3522616]Make a dummy PayPal account then send money to that account using your PayPal account you use regularly. And Pay with dummy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=2me4Looking2;3523664]This is exactly how people got outed with Ashley Madison. You have no way of knowing how secure their site is and these sites are prime targets for a hack because every guy is blackmail material or some so called social justice cause. I'd strongly advise that you use a prepaid visa and a fake name. I did that and had no issues.[/QUOTE]If Ashley Madison didn't clue people in, then I don't know what will. Always pay with a pre-paid cad. If you do PayPal, fund it with prepaid cards. ALWAYS. And use an email address that never is used for anything but SA. Don't even give the password reset email to a legit email address. NEVER.

All,

Been watching this thread for a while and decided to take the plunge. I started this past Sunday. Since then I have had an all three hole session with a mature bbw which was amazing and just finished a super snuggling session in her car outside the restaurant we had lunch at. We are already scheduled for our next meet at her place. Based on how far I got in her car in the parking lot I am looking forward to some good lovin. She is in her 40's and looks great. All of this and I was out of town for part of the week too. When I view profiles on SA I start getting messages back. I'm mostly interested in 30 and 40's year old. I will read up on all the advice I see below. It should only get better and better. Glad this thread is active.

PC.

[QUOTE=Grizzly383;3521703]What I propose is:

1) We make posts about HOW it was a success. Share some insights about your ways of approach and game.

2) Share your failures and bad experiences, so the stronger players can give advice.

3) Rants?[/QUOTE]1. I achieved success staying AWAY from the exact same types of women I would stay away from in real life. If you look like someone I would hesitate to approach in real life, I avoid on SA. In real life, I avoid chicks who look "too hot". It screams high maintenance (which means high sugar), late for dates because of time for putting on warpaint (eh, makeup).

2. Fail #1. (All of this in 3 weeks!) Didn't M&G a chick, and only had face, pussy / thigh, and ass / leg shots. Our first meeting was at her house at 10:00 at night. She was cute, but bigger than her pics. If it was a proper M&G before I committed, I wouldn't have moved forward to FC. Nowhere to bail out, and the little head had been doing the thinking all day, so I was stuck.

Fail #2. Spent too much time texting what turned out to be a bat shit crazy chick who lived so far away, that I wasn't ever going to close escrow with anyway. Figure out how far you're willing to travel for SB time, and figure out if they're within proximity QUICKLY!

Fail #3. Almost blew an opportunity with a chick because I spent TOO MUCH time messaging, and then texting. These chicks have a lot of dudes on their phone and chat window, and most of them are full of shit, and won't come through. They are on SA for a reason. They need something, and they have already resigned themselves to giving something to get something! So, strike while the iron is HOT! Just met her for lunch, and she's much happier, and I have memories that will last me for hours. Until I need another nut.

Rant:

Young chicks that hit me up are usually dangerous. While they're smoking hot, 98.7% of them have GPS, and I don't have the patience to weed through them, so I don't bother.

Why is it that these chicks are on a SB / SD website, but still want to act like they're on [URL]match.com[/URL] and do conventional dating stuff? Oh wait. They're all having a crisis of conscience. They're further along in the understanding that all women prostitute themselves in some fashion, but they're not ready to fully digest the reality of said fact.

Great report!

I know. It's like the hot stove. You got to get burned before you believe it's really hot.

Not picking on you. Just building on a couple of points. Lord knows I've learned all this the hard way.

I know it is also counter intuitive, right? She suggests meeting at her place; you think you got a sure thing, right? But think about what you might be getting.

Always M&G in public. When they won't M&G it is a huge redflag. They can still be hot (appearance wise), but it is usually a big red flag that they are not mobile. Think about the pool you are playing with that aren't mobile (not even to a McDonald's down the street) in the Metro Atlanta ares? This is the era of $5 Uber Pool.

If she is or could be mobile and won't M&G that should be a red flag too, like you are walking into a catfish no different than the fake pics the BP gals post.

Beyond the redflag and quality aspects of things, there is a huge strategic element to not going to her place. In public, you control the situation, etc. You don't like, you pick up the drink check and leave, being as gracious and polite as the situation dictates.

There's also a little bit of a safety issue with going straight to her place. It essentially becomes like going to an incall for P2 P. At least if you've met her at the Starbucks a mile from her place it makes organizing any kind of trap a little more difficult or at least involved.

Even worse than meeting at her place is picking her up and taking her to a place for "a date"/ M&G or a ride to your place. She's gets in her car she's kinda your responsibility to some extent. This is perhaps the worst lot: the can't host and not mobile. The double whammy. I've literally turned down 3* (two of them would have been straight up free) chicks this week where when it came down to logistics it turned out they were not mobile or able to host. Trust me it was hard to say thanks but no thanks, holler at me when you get wheels, but it just is a mess. *one actually could host but didn't want to M&G first.

Also if you are meeting someone for what you hope is a regular, ongoing thing the whole not mobile / can't host double whammy starts becoming a real time eater.

Changing topics, have a sense of urgency when you are scheduling dates. The odds of dates not occurring increase exponentially with the amount of time between now and when you plan to meet. Offer to meet same day or next day. There is no time like the present. You can't always control this but you want to push to meet sooner vs. Later. If they think you are being too pushy tell them straight up, "listen, in my experience, the longer we wait to get together the less likely it is that we actually hookup. " Also don't be afraid to tell the ones that tell you how busy they are (LOL) that "listen, if you are too busy too meet, I don't think this is going to work out. " (e. G. The whole take the offer off the table as a way of closing approach).

Finally, don't be afraid to double or triple book (first) dates (M&G with the expectation of playtime) on the same day. You look at it and think "wow if I see them all I'll be spent in more ways than one!" Stagger them a couple hours apart. Invariably one or more won't workout and you'll be glad you had a backup plan (literally because you're probably ready to go with anticipation from the first one that didn't work out). If you really can't / don't want to see the 2nd or 3rd one because you're busy simply cancel. Be a good guy about it and let them know ASAP. Don't no show them. Or if you can make the M&G but aren't sure you will be (literally) up for the playtime, meet her anyway and see if you like her but beg off on the playtime. If you really like her you might find yourself ready to go again! I call that a doubleheader! Enjoy!

I know the whole double or triple booking thing sounds like a dick move but trust me, she's doing it too. You know all those lame excuses she gives you for cancelling on you (assuming she has the courtesy to actually tell you) about stuff at work or her grandma being sick or whatever? 80% of that is her meeting a guy she perceives as a better prospect. Again don't be a dick about it. Once you know you won't be able to meet let her know ASAP.

I want to reinforce a point I made it my post a few days ago. Do this on timing that works for you. Don't jerk your schedule around for the schedule of one prospect. All of our circumstances are different but most of us probably have a couple of blocks of time in any given week that we could do "playtime" - if you are trying to meet new girls load up that block of time with several dates and increase your odds of having a good time.

Ideally you are doing the initial M&G in a place that is convenient to you. There is a bar in Buckhead that I met / meet so many propects the regular staff all knew what was up. Above average to stunning women, 10-20 years younger than me, never the same one twice, often two in an evening, we never arrive together. They caught on pretty quick and as a regular were happy for me or at least professional. They also knew I'd been stood up when I sat alone for 20 minutes LOL.

Have a system guys.

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2. Fail #1. (All of this in 3 weeks!) Didn't M&G a chick, and only had face, pussy / thigh, and ass / leg shots. Our first meeting was at her house at 10:00 at night. She was cute, but bigger than her pics. If it was a proper M&G before I committed, I wouldn't have moved forward to FC. Nowhere to bail out, and the little head had been doing the thinking all day, so I was stuck.

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