Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=Whathesaid;2712403]SW Ohio ladies have always provided what our Commonwealth friends call "value for money" . Even when the SW Ohio lady is in another part of the country (long story a while back).

The variety and price are certainly here, though.

But from my background as a one time independent contractor I always worry about the underlying economics of the ladies' particular situations. All the ladies I have seen in the tri-state area in the last decade have (or have had) straight time jobs. None of them could quite make a go of it despite intelligence, drive and a lack of the "candy" habit.

Not to say there aren't other issues at play. But isn't that the situation for (almost) all of us here?

The only suggestion I can make is that we gents figure out which of the ladies have good quality practices (think [URL]www.iso.org[/URL] for providers) and support them in the ways we can.

For me, I like heels (and live close to some ladies' shoe stores and recognize good product and deals there) so I bring them (high but suitable for civvie job) pumps.

I am certain the other gents on the boards can provide assistance (little / no cost to you but mucho value) to the ladies as "tips".

Anyone care to add to this?[/QUOTE]I think A2 would agree with the quality of girls in the Dayton / Cincinnati area. HOWEVER, when it comes to value-for-the-money A2 wins hands down. Can't beat the Argentinian Peso, especially if you are using US dollars. Official exchange rate today is 1 USD = 9.7 pesos. Blue Dolalrs = 14.75 pesos.

First off, I know nothing about the truth of what actually happened with Cammy. But in addition to DNut's report of her working with a pimp to rob him, and the fully anonymous posts on BP accusing her of similar stuff, there are a couple of reports scattered around here by mongers who have provided reliable intel in the past about seeing her and not getting robbed.

The BP post that outed all of her details and those of her alleged pimp now appears to be down, but it seemed in line with what DNut described, and he also apparently linked to it before that post was removed.

That post had one very interesting thing besides the info on Cammy. It included a screen shot from a T Mobile subscriber using the Facebook app to access Cammy's Facebook profile. That screen shot indicated whoever was accessing Cammy's profile had 15 FB friends in common with her. This seems like an awful lot of overlap for someone who just met the girl for the first time for some anonymous fun. Whoever this was also was able to find the "pimp's" FB profile. At least one of the common friends is someone I suspect is a very experienced monger, since he has at least 10 "friends" who I recognize as current or former local providers.

Don't really know what's going on. Not sure I even care. And I'm sure not going to see Cammy for any number of reasons. But just some food for thought.

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;2712139]I was thinking the same thing when I was scrolling through the Cincinnati lineup a few minutes ago. I've looked at a few other cities' ads and forums and they don't have but a fraction of what we have here.[/QUOTE]True, Cincinnati does seem to have many fine looking ladies. I have had the pleasure of meeting three of them. But Memphis also has its fair share of fine ladies, although maybe not as many as Cincy. Mimi is one of them. She is my go-to girl for girl on girl. She can eat pussy like her life depends on it. Just ask LSM69. Not my usual tastefully explicit style, but I still like it nonetheless.

[QUOTE=NdayGuy;2710220]SO. What are the odds that [b]Anon[/b] writes this stuff about what he does just to spark controversial conversation on here? Maybe in reality he does nothing of the sort but sit back and enjoy watching the flurry of activity spawning from his posts.[/QUOTE]WHHHOOOOOAAA!

Not sure who that clown Amon777 is, but he is NOT the legend that The Original Anonone was.

There can be only one. Well okay, two, but PD is his kinder, gentler doppelganger.

Hehehe not sure how your post was relevant at all, but you guys sure love to revive my despised name. Loool.

[QUOTE=PhatDaty;2713147]WHHHOOOOOAAA!

Not sure who that clown Amon777 is, but he is NOT the legend that The Original Anonone was.

There can be only one. Well okay, two, but PD is his kinder, gentler doppelganger.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;2712139]I was thinking the same thing when I was scrolling through the Cincinnati lineup a few minutes ago. I've looked at a few other cities' ads and forums and they don't have but a fraction of what we have here.[/QUOTE]Where you limiting yourself to the USASG forum or where you exposing yourself to other venues & resources?

[QUOTE=NdayGuy;2712529]I think A2 would agree with the quality of girls in the Dayton / Cincinnati area. HOWEVER, when it comes to value-for-the-money A2 wins hands down. Can't beat the Argentinian Peso, especially if you are using US dollars. Official exchange rate today is 1 USD = 9.7 pesos. Blue Dolalrs = 14.75 pesos.[/QUOTE]International hobby trips get to be expensive. I only hobbied overseas because I was working outside the USA at the time. Air fare from the Nati to BA would get me two overnights with English-speaking ladies here with everything I like.

Although the idea of a pint at Antares and an authentic bistec argentino do sound intriguing LOL.

[QUOTE=Amon777;2712156]This forum is a medium for freedom of speech and as long as I'm not breaking the rules and talking about women and my desires and interests regarding women then you can stfu and gtfo. Do not talk about other forum members in an irreverent manner, talk about the women. If you do not like what I say all you have to do is block me or not read my posts. Nobody is forcing you to sit there reading anyone's posts. Now if you had used your brain you would have came upon that solution yourself. Do this forum a favor and think before you post such dribble from now on. Fool.[/QUOTE]I've got no dog in this fight but I do feel the need to point one thing out.

Your freedom of speech as far as a constitutional right has zero existence on this thread. It exists for as long as the owner of this private website wishes to grant it and not for a second longer.

As far as doing the forum a favor. You need to look in the mirror.

[QUOTE=Badboy3;2713757]I've got no dog in this fight but I do feel the need to point one thing out.

Your freedom of speech as far as a constitutional right has zero existence on this thread. It exists for as long as the owner of this private website wishes to grant it and not for a second longer.

As far as doing the forum a favor. You need to look in the mirror.[/QUOTE]As far as doing the forum a favor, I'm sure the people that have contacted me for info regarding my reviews in the past would beg to differ with you.

Think about the mentality of a mob and how it has changed with the advent of the internet. Before the internet a mob or people would gather at a location and it was not such a big problem because the only thing to worry about was dispersing the mob and restoring order. With the advent of the internet the mob now gathers at a location and the mob is dispersed by admin in the form of censorship, banning members from posting and thru loss of interest the mob is dispersed. Long after the mob has been dispersed the information remains.

[QUOTE=Amon777;2714235]As far as doing the forum a favor, I'm sure the people that have contacted me for info regarding my reviews in the past would beg to differ with you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NdayGuy;2712529]I think A2 would agree with the quality of girls in the Dayton / Cincinnati area. HOWEVER, when it comes to value-for-the-money A2 wins hands down. Can't beat the Argentinian Peso, especially if you are using US dollars. Official exchange rate today is 1 USD = 9.7 pesos. Blue Dolalrs = 14.75 pesos.[/QUOTE]The queen city has long been my adopted home town and there are some fucking hotties there for sure but it doesn't beat here.

Both of these chicks are fucking AMAZING at what they do, all access less than 50 an hour.

[URL]http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Caro%20Manzanita_15-3129-8892_13634.htm[/URL]

[URL]http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Yesica_15-4036-1308_14996.htm[/URL]

The only thing wrong with them is they don't work together so I can't get them in a trio.

What the fuck is up with harshing on me for censoring and banning people?

[QUOTE=Amon777;2705509]Well I have always been a risk taker and have done bb for a long time. Now I am more candid about it. I simply do it because it is in my nature since I am a sex addict perverted pig. I am proud of it too.[/QUOTE]Hey look, I'm not judging, but with the HIV / STD epidemic this part of the country has had going on in recent years, you are basically asking for it at this point. I'm 80-ish percent retired from the hobby, never went once without a cover, and I still consider myself lucky to be testing clean. Only other thing I'm saying is that you should be prepared for the guilt that can come from getting a goodly number of other people sick with your rush. Hope it's worth it bruh.

I thought they said the hiv numbers has been going down. I may be mistaken but just what I heard. Though I do know it has been increasing amongst the gays.

[QUOTE=Vilnius;2714595]Hey look, I'm not judging, but with the HIV / STD epidemic this part of the country has had going on in recent years, you are basically asking for it at this point. I'm 80-ish percent retired from the hobby, never went once without a cover, and I still consider myself lucky to be testing clean. Only other thing I'm saying is that you should be prepared for the guilt that can come from getting a goodly number of other people sick with your rush. Hope it's worth it bruh.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amon777;2714917]I thought they said the hiv numbers has been going down. I may be mistaken but just what I heard. Though I do know it has been increasing amongst the gays.[/QUOTE]Don't try to rationalize it with an animalistic mentality. Statistically, your days are numbered because of your love of the gutter.

[QUOTE=Amon777;2713201]Hehehe not sure how your post was relevant at all, but you guys sure love to revive my despised name. Loool.[/QUOTE]I am gathering you are not sure of far more than just the relevance of my post, junior.

Now run along, you are bothering the adult folk.

[QUOTE=Amon777;2714917]I thought they said the hiv numbers has been going down. I may be mistaken but just what I heard. Though I do know it has been increasing amongst the gays.[/QUOTE]The stats are of 2013 there were about 2600 people with hiv in Hamilton county, 21% were women that would be about 546 and these are not the ladies playing cards at Camargo country club. They are the ones most likely to be playing risky roulette. Hamilton county was tops in any other area in ohio with new cases of hiv. Another thought if you average out the fact that about 70% of men and women have little or no symptoms with most std's / sti's you have no idea until it starts doing irreversible harm to your internal organs. Heart, brain, etc. All the while spreading it to others. Have fun.

Have to post. Ninety eight, {98} per-cent, {%} of statistics individuals present are made on the spot--politician etc and be s'ers. Having peer reviewed published reasearch it is not rude to ask you for your referenced sources. Post them for all to see.

Use ant format you like or use one of the two required for publication.

Hehehe well for those of you who are petrified of stds, send all the bareback roulette playing girls my way, I will be more than happy to bang all of them in quick succession and lick their assholes too.

[QUOTE=TheGardener1;2715048]Don't try to rationalize it with an animalistic mentality. Statistically, your days are numbered because of your love of the gutter.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amon777;2715797]Hehehe well for those of you who are petrified of stds, send all the bareback roulette playing girls my way, I will be more than happy to bang all of them in quick succession and lick their assholes too.[/QUOTE]I really enjoy the implication here that condoms are somehow over cautious. Yikes.

Umm no I never implied that condoms are overcautious, nothing wrong with using them. I was talking about the people harping on and on about std's on a sex forum.

[QUOTE=Vilnius;2715812]I really enjoy the implication here that condoms are somehow over cautious. Yikes.[/QUOTE]

Being pretty much retired from the hobby these days (I get winded just trying to masturbate) I only peruse the board from time to time and post just when something really catches my interest. Since if I do indulge in a provider on a rare occasion it is usually with somebody I have been seeing for a very long time and knows about my heart condition and what my limits are and how to provide a safe session, I don't review anybody new and can rarely can add to actionable intelligence. All I have is some wisdom to share as a refresher course having been in the hobby for over thirty years.

With that being said, I have to admit to beng amused by the furor over AMON777 [i](and please don't confuse him with Anon, that guy was an artist at verbal douchery).[/i]

[B]Why do you guys take the bait?[/B]

First of all, he comes across as either a fraud just here to stir shit or a bona fide lunatic that you want to keep track of. Take note at the history of his posts, They really are not reviews. They are mostly add on comments to another person's report. I don't see much evidence of him discovering anyone new or revealing any useful intelligence. It is mostly outlandish without even being well-crafted. It is meant to be inflammatory. Second, and I find this peculiar, he is both a masochist and a misogynist. If he is real, he is dangerous, as in Ted Bundy dangerous, a man who both fears and is revolted by women is one that will eventually escalate to abusing women and stalking their gentlemen callers. I would want him to be on my radar if I were still active.

Lastly, if he is actually seeing providers, all he is really doing in his posts is getting on the classier provider's DNS. Look, if he is for real, chances are if you are horrified by his claims of weird and risky behavior, you aren't hobbying in the the same circles.

Beyond that, I hope he names names and clearly states his activities. Sometimes the devil you know is better than the one you don't.

As always, be safe and above all else, have fun. This is after all a HOBBY.

And your references for your posted statistics interesting how you ignored the request.

[QUOTE=DoctorAl;2715987]And your references for your posted statistics interesting how you ignored the request.[/QUOTE]From 2002-2014 HIV cases reduced by 35 percent Search it on the Internet Most cases now are among needle druggies and homosexual males having intercourse with each other. Some cases from tainted blood. HIV can be controlled now depending on when diagnosed. Most STDs can be cured or controlled now due to improvements in medical technology Not promoting just stating what has occurred in the medical community improvements.

Oh my! What an admirable earnest attempt at discerning who I really am. Admirable but mistaken. I see you even took the time to go back and strategically insert a clause for extra emphasis. Though I must note one flaw with your little theory, my name will never be on a classy provider's dns since I am most adept at blending in like a chameleon and appearing to be "normal" and they don't know who I really am. Hehehe They are blinded by their lust for money and only care about my money and have never turned me away. Although grossly inaccurate I consider most of your report as "complimentary" so not really sure what you were trying to do there but reading it made my day and brought a beaming smile to my countenance.

Sincerely, Amon the Asslicker.

[QUOTE=PhatDaty;2715964]Being pretty much retired from the hobby these days (I get winded just trying to masturbate) I only peruse the board from time to time and post just when something really catches my interest. Since if I do indulge in a provider on a rare occasion it is usually with somebody I have been seeing for a very long time and knows about my heart condition and what my limits are and how to provide a safe session, I don't review anybody new and can rarely can add to actionable intelligence. All I have is some wisdom to share as a refresher course having been in the hobby for over thirty years.

With that being said, I have to admit to beng amused by the furor over AMON777 [i](and please don't confuse him with Anon, that guy was an artist at verbal douchery).[/i]
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[QUOTE=Amon777;2716128] ... Though I must note one flaw with your little theory, my name will never be on a classy provider's dns since I am most adept at blending in like a chameleon and appearing to be "normal" and they don't know who I really am. ...

Sincerely, Amon the Asslicker.[/QUOTE]Asking them to crap in your mouth may narrow the field somewhat.

[QUOTE=DoctorAl;2715475]Have to post. Ninety eight, {98} per-cent, {%} of statistics individuals present are made on the spot--politician etc and be s'ers. Having peer reviewed published reasearch it is not rude to ask you for your referenced sources. Post them for all to see.

Use ant format you like or use one of the two required for publication.[/QUOTE]You are very impatient 2 requests in 5 hrs? I am not here all day every day the info on statistics is available (google) from the "CDC hiv stats" the latest is from 2010 and "state of ohio hiv stats" latest published 2013. There are many reports you or anyone can search. I do not have the time to find, copy, and attach right now, but wanted to reply.

I have two legal questions which pertain to Ohio.

I have a provider in my car and she is in possession of drugs, can my car be confiscated if we're stopped and searched?

Can my car be confiscated if I am arrested for mongering?

Seriously? So, you really don't think that it is a stretch to associate him with one of the worst serial killers to walk this earth? Come on man. Risky behavior; yes. Lunatic. Hmmmm.

[QUOTE=PhatDaty;2715964]Being pretty much retired from the hobby these days (I get winded just trying to masturbate) I only peruse the board from time to time and post just when something really catches my interest. Since if I do indulge in a provider on a rare occasion it is usually with somebody I have been seeing for a very long time and knows about my heart condition and what my limits are and how to provide a safe session, I don't review anybody new and can rarely can add to actionable intelligence. All I have is some wisdom to share as a refresher course having been in the hobby for over thirty years.

With that being said, I have to admit to beng amused by the furor over AMON777 [i](and please don't confuse him with Anon, that guy was an artist at verbal douchery).[/i]

[B]Why do you guys take the bait?[/B]






First of all, he comes across as either a fraud just here to stir shit or a bona fide lunatic that you want to keep track of. Take note at the history of his posts, They really are not reviews. They are mostly add on comments to another person's report. I don't see much evidence of him discovering anyone new or revealing any useful intelligence. It is mostly outlandish without even being well-crafted. It is meant to be inflammatory. Second, and I find this peculiar, he is both a masochist and a misogynist. If he is real, he is dangerous, as in Ted Bundy dangerous, a man who both fears and is revolted by women is one that will eventually escalate to abusing women and stalking their gentlemen callers. I would want him to be on my radar if I were still active.

Lastly, if he is actually seeing providers, all he is really doing in his posts is getting on the classier provider's DNS. Look, if he is for real, chances are if you are horrified by his claims of weird and risky behavior, you aren't hobbying in the the same circles.

Beyond that, I hope he names names and clearly states his activities. Sometimes the devil you know is better than the one you don't.

As always, be safe and above all else, have fun. This is after all a HOBBY.[/QUOTE]

So what happens if I call one of these false numbers? Say. One of these 613 deals?. If I plait cool. Stay within the law. How's that work out? I can't imagine endearing anyone.

[QUOTE=HarryD;2716220]I have two legal questions which pertain to Ohio.

I have a provider in my car and she is in possession of drugs, can my car be confiscated if we're stopped and searched?

Can my car be confiscated if I am arrested for mongering?[/QUOTE]As far as the drugs go. YES - and probably.

As far as mongering. It would be a tremendous stretch and probably not.

Remember. They can do ANYTHING. You can always appeal and in most cases win. But by then the damage to you is done.

[QUOTE=Willow1535;2716298]Seriously? So, you really don't think that it is a stretch to associate him with one of the worst serial killers to walk this earth? Come on man. Risky behavior; yes. Lunatic. Hmmmm.[/QUOTE]You sort of latched onto one small part of my post, but since you do bring it up, let me clarify.

I didn't say he was like Ted Bundy for the weird and risky behaviors, although Dr. Alan Carlisle's profile of Bundy did include very similar activities and fantasies, but more important is the persona he presents--again if true and this is not the hoax of a troll.

Key to Bundy's escalation, according to Carlisle was his delight in being a [B]social chameleon[/B]. He loved the duplicity as much as the violence it ultimately culminated in.

My that sounds a bit familiar:

[QUOTE=Amon777;2716128]Though I must note one flaw with your little theory, my name will never be on a classy provider's dns since I am most adept at blending in like a chameleon and appearing to be "normal" and they don't know who I really am.[/QUOTE]Please remember I said [B]if these posts are real[/B]. If you are so inclined, don't just look at his recent attempt to spread a little bit of fear, go back a few months and look at some of the more misogynist ones where he denigrates not just providers, but all women and then turns on a dime describing his masochism. Bundy shared that exact combination of an underlying drive for why he escalated as he did. Again, the key word is escalation. I mean he has already posted previously that he wanted to set a trap for a couple of providers and implied he intended harm because he felt "slighted" by them or their pimps etc.

My first inclination is to believe he is just an asshole trying to get a rise out of people. However, if he truly believes some of the things he describes and seems to fantasize about, a dose of caution is justified.

[QUOTE=HarryD;2716156]Asking them to crap in your mouth may narrow the field somewhat.[/QUOTE]I am not judging his scatological fetish. If he and what ever provider he books with decide that is perfectly fine, that is their business. Of course, being a GFE kind of guy that likes oral play and kissing, I doubt Proctor and Gamble makes enough mouthwash and toothpaste to make me feel comfortable seeing anyone he decides to see.

So rather than discourage him from posting, I want him to be sure to trumpet his escapades and tell the names of the gals he pays enough money to to be willing to exchange anal fluids with.

I hope none of the ladies I see, if any (heart has been acting up again), will be bothered if I ask them to brush their teeth in front of me, gargle with first some hydrogen peroxide, followed up by Listerine.

[QUOTE=NdayGuy;2716588]As far as the drugs go. YES - and probably.

As far as mongering. It would be a tremendous stretch and probably not.

Remember. They can do ANYTHING. You can always appeal and in most cases win. But by then the damage to you is done.[/QUOTE]The answer is yes to mongering too. Whenever uncle LEO does the reverse stings they also impound the vehicle. Stay safe.

MN.

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Something isn't right. I'm not taking sides but I'm sending you both to neutral corners for a mandatory 24 hour cooling off period.

At the end of the day, if forced to make a decision between the two of you, you know where it's got to be.

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[QUOTE=HarryD;2716220]I have two legal questions which pertain to Ohio.

I have a provider in my car and she is in possession of drugs, can my car be confiscated if we're stopped and searched?

Can my car be confiscated if I am arrested for mongering?[/QUOTE]Car towed and depending on amount of drugs you could be charged with intent.

Ther again they can be creative with charges but damage is done.

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Thank you John Hancock, MrNails and NDay Guy!

Our hobby is not without risk, although some of the thrill and satisfaction is in dodging the perils it would be nice to get the little gentleman serviced without being arrested and losing my car. I will act accordingly.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;2716908]Car towed and depending on amount of drugs you could be charged with intent.

Ther again they can be creative with charges but damage is done.[/QUOTE]They could use criminal tools for car, if she shoves drugs under your seat could be difficult. Most won't forfeit car but will tow it. And you could be supoena'd to her drug trial where she says it is yours.

[QUOTE=Amon777;2716128]Oh my! What an admirable earnest attempt at discerning who I really am. Admirable but mistaken. I see you even took the time to go back and strategically insert a clause for extra emphasis. Though I must note one flaw with your little theory, my name will never be on a classy provider's dns since I am most adept at blending in like a chameleon and appearing to be "normal" and they don't know who I really am. Hehehe They are blinded by their lust for money and only care about my money and have never turned me away. Although grossly inaccurate I consider most of your report as "complimentary" so not really sure what you were trying to do there but reading it made my day and brought a beaming smile to my countenance.

Sincerely, Amon the Asslicker.[/QUOTE]People like him with low self-esteem enjoy putting others down and can't have a conversation without bad-mouthing some one or making harsh comments. It makes him feel better. He probably has been controlled and belittled his whole live by people around him. He needs a good shrink! Just my opinion.