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SDM is a mixed bag; my process step-by-step as requested.
[QUOTE=BamBam;5788964]This is an interesting report. Since others have said SDM is a dry hole, can you say more about your process? Perhaps you could post some pictures of your successes? Without giving too much away? In the past, I dismissed reports like yours due to poor personal experience. Now, though, with Seeking at risk of changing its nature, I think it is time to branch out and start exploring how to be successful on other sites. We need backups and alternatives. The need carries mounting weight as Seeking regularly increases its price while decreasing its value. It is hard for me to believe all the other sites are just giving up and abandoning the market completely to Seeking. Especially if Seeking is abandoning the market also.
Thanks much in advance!
BAM.[/QUOTE]I have a premium membership with SDM, it was worth it. It's still way cheaper than the other sites and it's not pay-per-interaction, it's all unlimited.
Process involves:
1. Making an interesting profile. CHOOSE A USERNAME THAT YOU HAVE NEVER USED ANYWHERE ELSE!! That is important because if you google a username, the other places you have used it may come up. If you google my USASG handle, all my posts come up, for instance. My SDM profile photo does not show my face, I put an emoji over it. My profile also has Private Photos, so if I get an interested girl that I want to share my face picture with, I can click "Share Private Photo" and she alone can see the hidden photos then.
2. Waiting for the Likes and Winks to come in. SDM does not have any bots that spam likes or messages yet, it's all genuine interactions.
3. Looking at the list of incoming interactions and picking the ones that seem my type. I have been on SDM for one month now, and I have message history with about 400 women. Out of those 400, I have had phone or text conversations with about 75 and developed 8 into real, physical casual relationships / part-time SBs. I tell them that I only am looking for occasional meetups, like every couple of weeks. They love that idea. I usually pay between 60 and 200 dollars per meet, plus meals, hotel and any expenses and we usually hang out for 6-12 hours and fuck at least once.
4. Clicking on Like for the ones that seem interesting and then messaging them.
- 4 a. DO NOT USE YOUR PERSONAL CELL PHONE NUMBER FOR ANYTHING, EVER! Use a texting app like Google Voice. You cannot protect yourself enough these days.
- 4 b. My first message through SDM always has a compliment, my phone number and a request for them to text me. That moves the conversation off of the site and gives me a lot more control. It's also possible to just call them *67 (caller I'd block) and voice verify that they are female if I need to, once I have their number. Sorts out all the catfish and the scammers. I had one catfish in Dayton that was supposedly an 18 yo Latina. It was her brother, actually.
5. Starting a friendly text conversation and asking them about their day, their work, their likes and what their home situation is. I've had everything from 18 year olds living at home who don't have a job to a 28 year old military wife with two kids who wanted to cheat on her Navy husband who has been deployed for more than 10 months. I do not sleep with cheaters so I turned her down. It is a total mixed bag of who you'll meet.
6. In that text conversation, ask them if they have found a good sugar daddy yet.
- 6 a. Some have already had them in the past, so ask for details about their past arrangements and what the benefits were, then ask if they had a physical aspect to their arrangement and that that is what you are looking for.
- 6 b. If they are new to the game, you can emphasize that you would have looked for a woman on a traditional dating site, but that your circumstances, work schedule or whatever have been a killer for romance.
Either way, emphasize that you are looking for a casual relationship, or a friends with benefits type relationship. This sorts out all the picture senders, the long-distance girls, the fakes and the "platonic only" shit. Honestly, what woman signs up to a Sugar Baby service and then expects to avoid fucking the guys? Anyway, I digress. Offering "friends with benefits" is a good way to avoid making it a negotiation up front. Hell, the girl might even forget to ask for help and just end up wanting to hang out for the fun of it. That happened to me with a very sweet plus-sized Latina, she was just horny and wanted to get a guy to sleep with, regardless of support.
7. NEVER send any money in advance, unless you are forcing it on them as a way to create an obligation. I always say that I do not send electronic payments because they are all tracked and reported, and it would create a potential tax liability for the recipient in the future. I say "no good SD ever sends electronic payments, the IRS can come back later and ask you to pay tax on it". This puts it clearly into a cash-only mode.
8. Always offer to do a meet-and-greet for free at a nice restaurant. Don't splurge at this point, pick something where you have $15-20 entrees and don't order any drinks. Pay for everything. As a surprise, offer to cover her fuel costs at the end of the meal, always make it a $20 bill even if she says no. Treat her like a rich boyfriend, that's the goal here anyway. If she won't offer to meet for free, she's not worth working with. She can go be a ho or an escort for all I care, this type of thing is different, I'm looking for real girls who are non-pros.
9. At the meet-and-greet, ask a ton of questions, and offer very little about yourself. You want her to remain curious about you. Ask what she likes to do in the bedroom, if you have privacy. If not, don't be a creep. Ask later.
10. Have a hotel in mind if the meet-and-greet goes really well. Only if it goes well and she's attracted to you, ask what she has to do after this. Always make sure to get a 2-queen or a 2-double room. That's a good tool to mention, so she can sleep in peace, haha. DON'T GET A MOTEL, get a hotel. You're a rich boyfriend, remember? No brands with a number or a color in them, ok? Go for a Marriott or a Hilton or something.
- 10 a. If she can drink (over 21), offer to go out somewhere for drinks. If she says yes, tell her that to avoid any buzzed driving or drunk driving, you have a room nearby where you can sleep it off or just chill afterward.
- 10 b. If she's not old enough to drink in public, ask her if she likes to drink. If she says yes, tell her that to avoid any issues, you have a room nearby where you can drink in private. We can crash afterward.
11. Always offer to continue the conversation later, if she seems in anyway uncomfortable. If you have a bad vibe about you, she won't put out. Actually, she may try to film you, take your photo or call her friends. Be a nice dude, okay? This site is for Casanovas, not Zeus's.
12. At the meet-and-greet, discuss what you can offer her to support her situation. It's not all about the money. If she thinks it is, don't pursue her. SDs can offer support, advice, mentorship, loans, practical help and lots of other important manly or fatherly roles. This is a relationship with give and take and at the end of it, a friendship, really. Friends taking care of friends.
13. Have fun with your new SB. Take her dancing, to a movie, to a park, to a show, to the museum. If she's shy, offer to meet a hotel and just go to the pool or spa. Get a couples massage somewhere. Don't be 100% about sex, and she'll put out way more when you do have fun.
I may have missed some stuff, but that's my process. I'm enjoying the fruits of my labors not only in Dayton but in a few other places where my work takes me.
Sugar Daddy Meet: process
Thanks for the detailed response. Those tips are probably applicable to any site. However, there were a few insights I had not considered. You may regret being so forthcoming if a ton of guys from here now flood the site and worsen your odds. In any case, well done and happy hunting!
BAM.
[QUOTE=UnoMas2022;5798026]I have a premium membership with SDM, it was worth it. It's still way cheaper than the other sites and it's not pay-per-interaction, it's all unlimited.
Process involves:
1. Making an interesting profile. CHOOSE A USERNAME THAT YOU HAVE NEVER USED ANYWHERE ELSE!! That is important because if you google a username, the other places you have used it may come up. If you google my USASG handle, all my posts come up, for instance. My SDM profile photo does not show my face, I put an emoji over it. My profile also has Private Photos, so if I get an interested girl that I want to share my face picture with, I can click "Share Private Photo" and she alone can see the hidden photos then.
2. Waiting for the Likes and Winks to come in. SDM does not have any bots that spam likes or messages yet, it's all genuine interactions.
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Multiple Profiles Data Dump
I do not usually do a data dump on info but activity has been hot and heavy lately. I noticed lots of 30-40-50 year old women signing up. I don't want them to feel neglected so I am chatting them up on an AM basis I. E. no allowance hookups. The others were time-wasters for me. YMMV and, if it does, I would love*to know how you did it and how it went. Please comment if you know them. As always, PII when found is available to contributing seniors only.
Jamie is DynamicRocker, 3 strikes: doughy, dull and Nando1. Just don't.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d7c846a1-c1a7-4c1b-9bab-ca569b83065e[/URL]
Princess4 youDaddy, dtf, 300 ppm, will host, BBW when the clothes come off, big mistake on my part, one and done.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a2a205e2-c693-465f-b4a2-87c65f5c98ca[/URL]
Theearthdragon, thicker than pics, not sure what she wants, not dtf but hints, cannot host, smart but pretty arrogant, suggesting no allowance hookup but no success. Yet.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8831d0d9-4b62-416f-95e0-c63c82c2d73b[/URL]
Angelbaby669, pics are misleading but she is cute, will meet for token amount but is a rinser who also is promoting her OF site. No sex but promises maybe, says she lives in a schoolbus she is modifying, not so: I have her PII and that of her SO who is also on her OF, when I called her on teasing, she blocked my number but not my profile, no car always has her SO/BF drive her. he will wait in the car. I talked to him. I think he is pushing her to do the deed but she resists. She sometimes dances at Cheeks on the weekend, he drives her there and back.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e5b4ccba-a23a-4f1c-ab38-63cf58d92aba[/URL]
Princesslex02, will meet but no sex, lots of different excuses but seems to have no problem on her OF feed, pics are accurate but flat as a board, not really a student but hustling as a waitress, dancer, OF performer, etc. Live in BF, no family anywhere around here, smart, some PII available.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f1caf691-42d3-48c6-ae11-438e2b77472a[/URL]
Sweetestbaby22 Caroline, matches pics, wants $$ to meet or videochat, not serious.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0755df8c-447e-4d85-99db-f5cf6c1cf3ed[/URL]
Persephone: No sex dating HOT private pic.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/559c37a4-66ec-43c6-b487-ed1e22d459dc[/URL]#x.
Blonde_babe, on site since 2017 but never meets, will videochat, not as hot in person, no sex, needs to get to know you, etc, also Nando1, in Oxford.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/676ddc35-fdda-4b3f-8d6f-4dca6f43a891[/URL]
Anyone having better success?
BAM.