It seems to me that the closing of 1177 in Leominster, which was the sister location to Envelope, is somehow connected to YingYing having to move. Makes me wonder if 1415 is connected but I doubt that. As for living on premises, that is pretty common. At the old, now closed places in RI, the girls slept on the massage table. You could often see there luggage under the table or covered in the corner. Copious amount of toiletries in the bathroom is another giveaway that the girls live there. Many of these girls, especially those that rotate around from place to place, don't have any permanent location, only a big suitcase and friends or contacts with Chinese rooming houses.
ARG.
[QUOTE=Umbrellaman1;3013100]So try to top this one gents. I have a good relationship with Ying Ying over at 20 envelope. Basically we've known each other long enough so that I can have a PSE with her for a reasonable donation. Well I was in the mood for something a little different so I asked her via text if two girls was a possibility. She texted back okay. So I made arrangements to come see her at 7 pm. I show up at 6:58 pm, and this mamasan looking lady is standing in front of the building. She tells me in pretty good English that massage is closed. When I asked for a better explanation she all of a sudden cannot speak or understand English anymore. So I just got back in my car reasoning that Ying Ying got overruled on the two girl thing and that I would hook up with her some other time. Well 5 minutes later I get a call on my cell phone from Ying Ying asking me in her near non-existent English to come back. So I turn around thinking okay maybe there was just a misunderstanding. I pull up to the front of the building and Ying is sitting there with the other massage lady that works there with a whole bunch of suitcases and shit on the ground next to her. Before I know it she's loading all this shit into my car. Again Ying Ying's English is basically non-existent so she just started just gesturing and saying a bunch of Honey's and pretty much loaded up my car. She then starts fighting in Chinese with that lady that told me that the massage place was closed. So with a mixture of gestures and Honey's she gets in my car hands me a piece of paper with the address of 1415 Main Street and tells me to go there for our two girl arrangement. I still don't know what the hell is going on but between some charades and basic words on the way to 1415 Main Street I basically surmise that ying ying and mamasan a Envelope had a fight, probably over the two girl arrangement that she was trying to set up, and 1415 was going to be her new home now. So I finally get to 1415 with Ying Ying, and there's another masseuse there waiting for us, and I finally had my two girls (although ying seemed to have to negotiate with the other girl -- I don't think she warned her in advance. And of course this was all in Chinese). Thing is since Ying Yang's English is really bad or, the more likely scenario, she wasn't quite able to secure it through her negotiation, the two girl ended up being her, and then the other girl coming in for a second separate session. Not exactly what I had in mind. So I leave my donation and she unpacked all her stuff from my car. I confirm with her that basically 1415 is going to be her new home now. Let's just say that I wasn't expecting to help her move but I guess that's what happened. So for any guys mad that she is not at 20 envelope anymore, I think it's sort of kind of my fault for asking for something different. LOL.
On that note gents I don't think I can ever top that story. Every little bit of it is true. But on the drive home it occurred to me that this experience at 1415 Main Street was maybe a mile from my very first experience in the little town of Leicester many years ago. That was back in the days before Backpage when you had to call a service and arrange for something and it got really expensive by the time you paid the service and tipped the provider. I remember that first experience like it was yesterday and only now do I realize how bad and limited it really was. But with that said I guess my hobby has come full circle. It started in Leicester and it ended just a mile or so away. I think I've done just about all I can do and therefore, while I will still be a contributor to this group from time to time I am officially retired as a hobbyist. Yes this is my second attempt at retirement but I think there is something symbolic about tonight so this one I think will stick. Stay safe out there.[/QUOTE]
