Rants, Raves, and Opinions

[QUOTE=DrManhattan;6077693]Those moments will wake you right up after a long evening of driving around. I pulled off 27th and Wisconsin one night for a pick-up. This was 20 years ago. Little did I know at the time it was TS central down there. I was barely at a full stop when they immediately grabbed the handle on my passenger door. Luckily it was locked. Under the street light above us it became immediately obvious that their bone structure was even harder than mine. They sensed my hesitation, puling the handle a second time brutally hard. All of this must've last 4-5 seconds before I sped off. Just one of those nights when you pack it in and simply cruise home.

Another was when I picked up a reasonably attractive Latina who immediately gave off mental illness vibes. I was too inexperienced to simply pay her to leave the vehicle. Asked her to just get out, like a newbie, and she grew hot and agitated. I proceeded to drive around the same busy neighborhood, over and over for 20 minutes. She grumbled the whole time, how this guy or that guy along the sidewalk will come after me. Finally got bored enough that she emptied all of the cupholders brimming with parking meter questers and ran off.[/QUOTE]Picked up a tranny on Lisbon. Turned on 35th and offered to drop him / her / it (goddam pronouns) off by the dollar store. HHI refused to get out. I called 911 and said that I'd had car trouble. As I was looking under the hood, a woman jumped in my car and refuses to get out. I sat for 7 - 10 minutes waiting for Popo, but the tranny finally chickened first. Another time a slore claimed to be underage and was shaking me down for big bucks. I was on 27th, around Scott. There was a Police Cruiser stopped in mid-block. I pulled up behind them and said, Go get' them, they're right there. She wanted more money. I said if you're not going to go get them, I will.

She got out, and I rinsed my BVDs out so I wouldn't stain them permanently.

Anyway, all good clean fun in the SW game. Just to have a strange woman gobble our goo. Go figure.

Coochie (got to be an easier way) Eater.

God Bless You All.

Some thoughts from a guy in New Zealand. I like the term "job choice".

I've asked this question many times. What part of prostitution is illegal? The sex or the money?

I can give someone $100 for no reason at all, in fact I did, I walked past a homeless dude and gave him a C note, no issues.

A woman can screw a stranger whenever she wants, no issues.

Give a woman a $100 and she screws you? Issues. Why, what part is illegal? The sex or the money? Is it illegal if two people meet and have sex? No, if those same two people meet and have sex and one of them gets paid? Yes? Why? What if payment is in a form other than money, so, have sex and go to dinner? Go to dinner and have sex? What if the bloke buys the girl a car? Still illegal?

I know with drugs it's easy to tell, the drugs themselves are illegal, the money part is not, so possessing drugs or giving drugs away for free or selling drugs, they are still illegal, so it's easy to break it down, the illegal component to the transaction is the drugs, not the money, no part of illegal drugs is legal at all, not the giving or selling or possession.

But with prostitution, it can't be broken down into parts, exchange of money is not illegal and consensual sex is not illegal on their on, but for some reason together they are.

When applied to shooting, shooting a gun is not illegal, murder is, so whether you are paid to shoot someone or not, the murder component is always illegal.

I can see selling minors for sex is illegal, because although the exchange of money remains legal on its own, the sex with a minor is never legal whether it's free or not.

I'm surprised the US hasn't taken advice from NZ, a few years ago our government commissioned a report on how much tax revenue they were losing out on, they soon decided to make prostitution legal and taxable, to the surprise of many, the World did not end, nothing changed except the government gets more money, prostitution (Sex worker is the term they use here) is a job choice and the women are also more likely to report abuse and get shitheads off the street now that they are not too scared to talk to the cops.

Still, something that in and of itself is not illegal and is in fact a natural human interaction (sex) is made illegal if it is paid for, I'll never understand it.

[QUOTE=DieselMike;6093742]Some thoughts from a guy in New Zealand. I like the term "job choice".

I've asked this question many times. What part of prostitution is illegal? The sex or the money?

I can give someone $100 for no reason at all, in fact I did, I walked past a homeless dude and gave him a C note, no issues.

A woman can screw a stranger whenever she wants, no issues.

Give a woman a $100 and she screws you? Issues. Why, what part is illegal? The sex or the money? Is it illegal if two people meet and have sex? No, if those same two people meet and have sex and one of them gets paid? Yes? Why? What if payment is in a form other than money, so, have sex and go to dinner? Go to dinner and have sex? What if the bloke buys the girl a car? Still illegal?

I know with drugs it's easy to tell, the drugs themselves are illegal, the money part is not, so possessing drugs or giving drugs away for free or selling drugs, they are still illegal, so it's easy to break it down, the illegal component to the transaction is the drugs, not the money, no part of illegal drugs is legal at all, not the giving or selling or possession.

But with prostitution, it can't be broken down into parts, exchange of money is not illegal and consensual sex is not illegal on their on, but for some reason together they are.

When applied to shooting, shooting a gun is not illegal, murder is, so whether you are paid to shoot someone or not, the murder component is always illegal.

I can see selling minors for sex is illegal, because although the exchange of money remains legal on its own, the sex with a minor is never legal whether it's free or not.

I'm surprised the US hasn't taken advice from NZ, a few years ago our government commissioned a report on how much tax revenue they were losing out on, they soon decided to make prostitution legal and taxable, to the surprise of many, the World did not end, nothing changed except the government gets more money, prostitution (Sex worker is the term they use here) is a job choice and the women are also more likely to report abuse and get shitheads off the street now that they are not too scared to talk to the cops.

Still, something that in and of itself is not illegal and is in fact a natural human interaction (sex) is made illegal if it is paid for, I'll never understand it.[/QUOTE]Great post, thanks for sharing!

HS.

1) The giving of money for the sex act is considered an act of coercion.

The work around is what is given in may ad's.

"Money exchanged is for my time and companionship. Anything else that may or may not happen is a matter of personal choice between consenting adults and is not contracted for in any way".

In the eyes of our friends in the LE professions they think they are doing us a favor by not charging us with that big nasty stuff that comes from sex without consent.

2) Taxes.

As all money is exchanged without reporting taxes are not being paid on the income.

Therefore again our friends have the opinion they are giving us a break in not charging us with tax evasion.

See how nice they are being to us?

(yes there is a lot of sarcasm in this post).

[QUOTE=DieselMike;6093742]Some thoughts from a guy in New Zealand. I like the term "job choice".

I've asked this question many times. What part of prostitution is illegal? The sex or the money?

I can give someone $100 for no reason at all, in fact I did, I walked past a homeless dude and gave him a C note, no issues.

A woman can screw a stranger whenever she wants, no issues.

Give a woman a $100 and she screws you? Issues. Why, what part is illegal? The sex or the money? Is it illegal if two people meet and have sex? No, if those same two people meet and have sex and one of them gets paid? Yes? Why? What if payment is in a form other than money, so, have sex and go to dinner? Go to dinner and have sex? What if the bloke buys the girl a car? Still illegal?

I know with drugs it's easy to tell, the drugs themselves are illegal, the money part is not, so possessing drugs or giving drugs away for free or selling drugs, they are still illegal, so it's easy to break it down, the illegal component to the transaction is the drugs, not the money, no part of illegal drugs is legal at all, not the giving or selling or possession.

But with prostitution, it can't be broken down into parts, exchange of money is not illegal and consensual sex is not illegal on their on, but for some reason together they are.

When applied to shooting, shooting a gun is not illegal, murder is, so whether you are paid to shoot someone or not, the murder component is always illegal.

I can see selling minors for sex is illegal, because although the exchange of money remains legal on its own, the sex with a minor is never legal whether it's free or not.

I'm surprised the US hasn't taken advice from NZ, a few years ago our government commissioned a report on how much tax revenue they were losing out on, they soon decided to make prostitution legal and taxable, to the surprise of many, the World did not end, nothing changed except the government gets more money, prostitution (Sex worker is the term they use here) is a job choice and the women are also more likely to report abuse and get shitheads off the street now that they are not too scared to talk to the cops.

Still, something that in and of itself is not illegal and is in fact a natural human interaction (sex) is made illegal if it is paid for, I'll never understand it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CoochieEater;6100076]My friend has a small manufacturing business. He hired a guy, just paroled, at $25 an hour. If he'd a stuck with it, he'd be making at $35 an hour now. Our con had been busted for dealing. Tried the straight and narrow, but friends, $25 an hour doesn't beat $2500 a day. Good worker, honest (at least as far as the job went), but working 8 for $200 less taxes sux donkey dick after a bling bling lifestyle. Of course, he's back in right now, but made some big pocket change on the way back down..[/QUOTE]Yep, you're spot on Cooch. If the guy was making that kind of money daily it's over $900,000 a year. Tough to tell him to go on the straight and narrow for $52,000 a year gross. Even $1000 a day is $365,000 a year.

It leads into the other side of the equation as well. Talking to streetwalkers over the years many have said pretty much the same thing. "If I make $50 I have a $50 a day, if I make $100 I have a $100 a day habit, if I make $200 I have a $200 day habit. " Many buy $20 worth of heroin and $10 worth of crack 4 times a day. That's $43,800 a year.

Escorts in very cheap notels may have a deal cut to pay $50 a day in cash, which is still $18,250 a year. Those in low to mid level hotels are often paying $100 a day or $36,500 a year, plus a habit of $36,500 a year for a total of $73,000 a year just on the room and the habit. Some of you remember Emily that for a long time stayed at the shit hole on Layton by the airport. She was covering her habit AND her boyfriends habit at $300-$400 a day plus $80 for the room. At $300 a day that's $138,700 a year just on dope and the room. This was a number of years ago and she was doing $100 full service so she had to turn at least 5 tricks a day just to cover dope and the room. She only used one dealer and you know he loved her too, he was making at least $110,000 a year just on her.

That, gentlemen, is why the "war on drugs" will never be won through legislation, arrests and incarceration. The money involved is just staggering. And that's just in l'll ole Milwaukee. Imagine the market in Chicago, New York and L. A.

HS.

I have visited red light districts all over the world and met a very popular woman in Frankfort that drove a red Lamborghini. She was making over $1000 a day and that was over 20 years ago. I can only imagine how many guys a day she's fucking to make that car payment.

A month ago I met someone's UTR provider at a hole in the wall motel. She said the room cost $50 bucks a day. At first I thought that was cheap. And then I realized that at that rate she's paying 1500 a month for that crappy room. My 1500 mortgage provides me a very nice house in the burbs.

The only winners here are the drug dealers and managers.

[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;6100538]Yep, you're spot on Cooch. If the guy was making that kind of money daily it's over $900,000 a year. Tough to tell him to go on the straight and narrow for $52,000 a year gross. Even $1000 a day is $365,000 a year.

It leads into the other side of the equation as well. Talking to streetwalkers over the years many have said pretty much the same thing. "If I make $50 I have a $50 a day, if I make $100 I have a $100 a day habit, if I make $200 I have a $200 day habit. " Many buy $20 worth of heroin and $10 worth of crack 4 times a day. That's $43,800 a year.

Escorts in very cheap notels may have a deal cut to pay $50 a day in cash, which is still $18,250 a year. Those in low to mid level hotels are often paying $100 a day or $36,500 a year, plus a habit of $36,500 a year for a total of $73,000 a year just on the room and the habit. Some of you remember Emily that for a long time stayed at the shit hole on Layton by the airport. She was covering her habit AND her boyfriends habit at $300-$400 a day plus $80 for the room. At $300 a day that's $138,700 a year just on dope and the room. This was a number of years ago and she was doing $100 full service so she had to turn at least 5 tricks a day just to cover dope and the room. She only used one dealer and you know he loved her too, he was making at least $110,000 a year just on her.

That, gentlemen, is why the "war on drugs" will never be won through legislation, arrests and incarceration. The money involved is just staggering. And that's just in l'll ole Milwaukee. Imagine the market in Chicago, New York and L. A.

HS.[/QUOTE]

I've been a member of this, as well as a few other boards for many years. Regarding to the escort blog. It used to be a place of comradery sharing and friendly family type banter. TOFTT used to be the standard for earning your stripes and respect as well as your opportunity to ask for shares in return. That has all changed to a less united family of members that seem to just want to add their 2 cents or scrutinize others reports. Too many members now? IDK For me, it is upsetting to recall how many times my specific reports have pissed off providers because of the lack of privacy & fair play from other members using my reports for whatever gains they thought they might achieve. These thoughts came to me today when I met a super nice woman off of stg (someone I had never seen an ad for before and was unable to find anything in a search) and thought about sharing a review of her. 25 yr old, gorgeous fresh & petite, GFE hourglass figure, ex-dancer, smooth tight skin, bare open menu 5 ft2 121 lbs chestey & great ass, drives self, drug free, part time employment, $120 hr visit that lasted almost 2, seeking a regular in which a followup date has already been tentatively set. Let me not forget, she never asked for any donation until I respectfully handed it to her when she was leaving. Then it came to me WHY. No one ever reports TOFTT any more. There is no longer any advantage to reporting unless you really don't care if you lose her because of it. All I ever see is scepticism, criticism, questions or someone elses contrary experience that they never seen fit to report on. YMMV has forever been another standard that we all understood its reasoning. You can lead these new horses to water but then you have to teach them how to drink. Rant review over.

[QUOTE=WinonaFan;6096033]1) The giving of money for the sex act is considered an act of coercion.

The work around is what is given in may ad's.

"Money exchanged is for my time and companionship. Anything else that may or may not happen is a matter of personal choice between consenting adults and is not contracted for in any way".

In the eyes of our friends in the LE professions they think they are doing us a favor by not charging us with that big nasty stuff that comes from sex without consent.

2) Taxes.

As all money is exchanged without reporting taxes are not being paid on the income.

Therefore again our friends have the opinion they are giving us a break in not charging us with tax evasion.

See how nice they are being to us?

(yes there is a lot of sarcasm in this post).[/QUOTE]944.17  Sexual gratification.

(1)  In this section, "in public" means in a place where or in a manner such that the person knows or has reason to know that his or her conduct is observable by or in the presence of persons other than the person with whom he or she is having sexual gratification.

(2) Whoever commits an act of sexual gratification in public involving the sex organ of one person and the mouth or anus of another is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. [I] What about a handy? Not illegal, right?[/I].

(3) Subsection (2) does not apply to a mother's breast-feeding of her child. [I] I'm glad they exempted breastfeeding, cuz I love to see dem titties![/I].

944.16  Adultery. Whoever does either of the following is guilty of a Class I felony:

(1) A married person who has sexual intercourse with a person not the married person's spouse; or.

(2) A person who has sexual intercourse with a person who is married to another. [I] Holy Fuck Batman! The whole state should be behind bars!!! "Whachu in for, kid?" "Fuckin' your wife. How bout you?" "Fuckin' your mother."[/I].

944.30  Prostitution.

(1 m)  Any person who intentionally does any of the following is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor:

(a) Has or offers to have or requests to have nonmarital sexual intercourse for anything of value. [I] She slept over at my house and in the morning fucked me to say "Thank You!" That made her a prostitute! I bought a babe drink the other night in a bar, then fucked her in the alley behind the dumpster! Fuck-for-drink = Prostitution. But I didn't turn them in though."[/I].

I'm not a lawyer, but from what I'm reading, you can pay a married woman for a handjob and you'll still be within the law.

Coochie (Jesus Christ! Have I ever been legal?) Eater.

God Bless You All.

I had posted this awhile back and got numerous responses. She is currently active on FB but as I said before, she blocked me. Her post is off sometimes. Has anyone who contacted me had any success connecting with her?

[QUOTE=SoccerFan4245;5880096]I have been in this game for several years. I've met a couple of skip the games girls, but the ladies on the street and met a few on social media. These are all ladies where we knew where they stood and what they were looking for. What couple of months ago I took on the challenge of reaching out to someone I thought was really cute on Facebook. I had asked her whether she fooled around with older married men. She responded, "probably". From that point forward I was on a quest. There was a delay because she was moving from Waukesha to Milwaukee. She also said that she was not going to do anything because she needed to get back on birth control.

During the next following weeks, we chatted online and she explained that she has been hiding from 2 ex-boyfriend's. She said that when she moves to Milwaukee, she does not want anyone to know where she lives. Out of the blue one day, she asked when do I want to do it! She said that she could come to my house but that wasn't going to happen as far as I was concerned. Then she said we could get a room. She works as a housekeeper at one of local motels and she could get a decent rate. Neither options were of interest to me. After a bit longer, she relented and said that I could come see her at her new place. I had to swear to everything holy that I would not share her address with anyone, and I would not have.

Soon after she has a change of heart and say that it is too risky for anyone to know her address. After a little back-and-forth on messenger and on the phone, it appeared she was going to reconsider. During one of our conversations, I referred to myself by my real name. This name is obviously different than the Facebook page she has been dealing with. It was a surprise to me that this was a dealbreaker. She said that since I was using a different name and profile picture on my Facebook page, I could not be trusted. I was so close.

I tell this long story for the sole reason that I think she is ripe for the picking. She made it clear that she would have gotten with me for 100. Everything would've been bareback. We were just negotiating the final location of the deed. Unbeknownst to me she would go dark because I didn't share who I was upfront. From my experience, I didn't think it would matter because she needs the money. Apparently I was quite wrong.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SoccerFan4245;6158461]I had posted this awhile back and got numerous responses. She is currently active on FB but as I said before, she blocked me. Her post is off sometimes. Has anyone who contacted me had any success connecting with her?[/QUOTE]There's some guys that like the thrill of the chase. But one look at her FB page, her crazy eyed BF posing with his AR. I like excitement but playing with this one is like playing with fire.

Have to share this story from an out-of-state strip club.

I visit this club often enough to be on a first-name basis with some of the talent & staff. It's a higher-end club in a major city. I have a favorite there, but I went on a night I knew she wasn't working. I was in the mood to find something new.

As sometimes happens, I notice two hot female customers at a table taking everything in. Hotter than most of the talent.

I've been watching PUA-type instructional videos lately in an effort to raise my game, so I decide, "Eh, what the hell?" It was a big enough club that, if she decided I was creepy or didn't want to talk to me, I could just go to a different part of the building. I think the conversation started when someone bumped into one of them walking by and I said something to one of them. In a few moments, we had hit it off.

She had never worked in a strip club, but had done bottle service in a high-end regular club with VIP areas and whatnot, so she was used to the vibe. She was 26 and it was her first night out after healing up for a month following a boob job, which I have precisely zero problems with. Her friend's boyfriend came over at one point, but she mentioned she had been single for six months. She wasn't put off that I'm 40 as she said she had older exes. Her friend wasn't a cock block at all and even pulled up another chair for me.

We ended up doing a shot and talking for about 45 minutes. I think she liked that I gave her a lot of playful shit and couldn't rattle me when she tried to give it back, but was genuine when the conversation called for it.

It was going well enough that she had a DTF look in her eye at one point, but with the three of them having driven together from the opposite side of town where I was staying, logistics weren't on my side. But, as they started to leave, she insisted on getting my number before I could even ask and hit me up with texts before I even got back to my room. She's from a well-to-do suburb and some online recon tells me her "roommates" might still be mom & dad. But she's definitely a club & party girl, and there's zero wrong with that.

I think there's a lesson in this for clubs: Be careful letting the hot female customers in. Unless they're planning on becoming dancers, they can steal your business. Next time in that direction, I'm going to try and get better service for a lesser price elsewhere, if you get my drift.

What's with all the high dollar hotties coming to town and advertising on Eros? Mongers must be seeing them because they keep coming.

[QUOTE=AngryBob;6177567]What's with all the high dollar hotties coming to town and advertising on Eros? Mongers must be seeing them because they keep coming.[/QUOTE]Given the quality of local talent in the past few years, I'd rather shell out some money for someone high dollar and reputable a couple times per year than seeing a few of our local ladies.

But DAMN! Do I miss Kirby, Baby Bunny, Marie Maine, Aunt Vivian, Corie, America, Pawg Ray from Waukegan. It's turning into actual work just to get with present day providers. Which then turns into a total lackluster experience. Sadly the hobby isn't feeling like a hobby anymore! Prices are inflated, as well as these present day providers' heads too! Stay safe fellas.

I'm usually a independent massage or AMP guy. For my 75th bd next week I'm looking for a unicorn. Slender, clean, drug free provider for relaxing no rush hour. Visualizing her masturbating, then give her oral and BBBJ finish. Willing to spend reasonable amount but not over $300. Any suggestions, pm if you wish.

T.