[QUOTE=Zallab;5876751]Saw her recently and will not repeat (subpar experience). As always YMMV. Pm for details.[/QUOTE]Guess this is what YMMV was coined for. For the cost of head I was thrilled. Didn't try FS.
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[QUOTE=Zallab;5876751]Saw her recently and will not repeat (subpar experience). As always YMMV. Pm for details.[/QUOTE]Guess this is what YMMV was coined for. For the cost of head I was thrilled. Didn't try FS.
[QUOTE=Squiggly69;5876841]Spent some time with Kandee recently and she told me Steve was taking half of what ever she made when she was with him. Said he was a real douchebag too. I'm glad I never signed up with him!![/QUOTE]Never had any of the girls that was with him have anything good to say about him.
[QUOTE=AlaskMale;5875840]So if she did have a camera in her vag, would you have to put your dick in a line up?[/QUOTE]Yes I suppose. Then you would be part of the penal system.
[QUOTE=Squiggly69;5876841]Spent some time with Kandee recently and she told me Steve was taking half of what ever she made when she was with him. Said he was a real douchebag too. I'm glad I never signed up with him!![/QUOTE]That's funny! Kandee calling someone / anyone a "douchbag" is like the Pot calling the Kettle black. Fresh out of 'Vacation' and asking $350 for "give me a few more minutes honey" while getting high (or higher) and lackluster service is a laugh. $200 was a stretch for her rate even when she gave 40% of that to EE. I'm sure she knew when signing up with EE what the terms were as well, besides that only happened once per customer from what I could see as she then made her phone number available to them for future visits. IDK maybe she was calling Steve a "douch" due to being embarrassed from f_c_ing and s_c_ing him for free and everyone knowing it. Was her way of showing us she had some, cough cough, pride.
[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;5877021]Never had any of the girls that was with him have anything good to say about him.[/QUOTE]To be fair to Steve, many of his girls were addicts, unreliable, and tried to steal his commission by scheduling his clients directly. I also have no doubt he was a douche to them as well. Garbage in, garbage out.
[QUOTE=CincyShawn513;5876958]Let's not go all white knight making Steve out to be a "pimp". Even if he was getting 50 percent from his girls, with hotels, and other cost, he was not profiting much. Not only that, but he also now is finding out when it goes south, he's the one who stands to be made an example out of, and dealt real jail time. Whereas independent providers would rarely get jail time if drugs weren't involved. The "freebies" he may have gotten from the girls were probably his only real payment. So yeah. If I was putting my neck out doing something like he was, you better believe I woulda been requiring weekly freebies. It's hard to do what Steve did, and turn a profit. He's also the one taking the risk of being the "bad guy" who will be publicly shamed and jailed. The only real way to make money in this hobby is to have no overhead. Like being an independent and doing outcalls only. Or being a street walker. True "pimps" don't get hotels. Or use their info to rent rooms. They put girls on the street and beat the crap out of him. I actually looked into doing something like what Steve did and it just didn't add up to me. Unless I was taking 60 percent or more, and getting regular freebies, it would have been hard to view it as profitable.[/QUOTE]You make some very valid points Shawn! In addition some of Cincy's most popular ladies started with EE, it's a VERY long list, some had long term relationship there. We all know these ladies. Some went to EE because they couldn't handle stepping out on their own. They weren't good business people, reliable, couldn't keep a cell phone, afford to stay at a decent incall, afford transportation, stay off the bottle or drugs, stay out of jail, the list goes on. Steve provided them stability to some extent. We have also seen the JOB it was on EE's part just to get a daily schedule together, constant turn over, and putting up with some absolute 'biatches'! I also find it very interesting that the last month or so very few ladies were on his schedule. I'm wondering if these ladies may have been contacted about the impending doom and been offered.
Deals for considerations by LE? Anyway I would not want to be in his shoes right now. Good Luck to him, he needs it!
[QUOTE=DickMorehead;5877567]You make some very valid points Shawn! In addition some of Cincy's most popular ladies started with EE, it's a VERY long list, some had long term relationship there. We all know these ladies. Some went to EE because they couldn't handle stepping out on their own. They weren't good business people, reliable, couldn't keep a cell phone, afford to stay at a decent incall, afford transportation, stay off the bottle or drugs, stay out of jail, the list goes on. Steve provided them stability to some extent. We have also seen the JOB it was on EE's part just to get a daily schedule together, constant turn over, and putting up with some absolute 'biatches'! I also find it very interesting that the last month or so very few ladies were on his schedule. I'm wondering if these ladies may have been contacted about the impending doom and been offered.
Deals for considerations by LE? Anyway I would not want to be in his shoes right now. Good Luck to him, he needs it![/QUOTE]I would venture that the vast majority of schedulers that bite the dust are from either competitors or girls they manage rolling on them. Steve had a large percentage of escorts that were unhappy with him.
[QUOTE=SadSack;5877470]That's funny! Kandee calling someone / anyone a "douchbag" is like the Pot calling the Kettle black. Fresh out of 'Vacation' and asking $350 for "give me a few more minutes honey" while getting high (or higher) and lackluster service is a laugh. $200 was a stretch for her rate even when she gave 40% of that to EE. I'm sure she knew when signing up with EE what the terms were as well, besides that only happened once per customer from what I could see as she then made her phone number available to them for future visits. IDK maybe she was calling Steve a "douch" due to being embarrassed from f_c_ing and s_c_ing him for free and everyone knowing it. Was her way of showing us she had some, cough cough, pride.[/QUOTE]I'm not really familiar with how Steve operates other than the personal information that he requires that I choose not to give out because of the exact reason he finds himself in now. This was actually my first encounter with Kandee or any of the providers lately because of the lack of reasonable $ providers.
Anyway she just asked me if I ever dealt with Steve and that she use to work for him and why she no longer works for him. Just figured I'd throw my two cents in on what she said about him.
I actually had a good time with her and for a more reasonable donation than what she's advertising! Only downside was she wasn't real fresh down stairs.
[QUOTE=Squiggly69;5877723]I'm not really familiar with how Steve operates other than the personal information that he requires that I choose not to give out because of the exact reason he finds himself in now. This was actually my first encounter with Kandee or any of the providers lately because of the lack of reasonable $ providers.
Anyway she just asked me if I ever dealt with Steve and that she use to work for him and why she no longer works for him. Just figured I'd throw my two cents in on what she said about him.
I actually had a good time with her and for a more reasonable donation than what she's advertising! Only downside was she wasn't real fresh down stairs.[/QUOTE]Not fresh is a deal killer for me, if it stinks I am gone.
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I actually had a good time with her and for a more reasonable donation than what she's advertising! [b]Only downside was she wasn't real fresh down stairs.[/b][/QUOTE][I]Only?[/I] A [highlight]stinky hooker pussy[/highlight] is a [b]HUGE, deal killing[/b] downside, imo.
I saw Grace today, HHR at a hotel in NKY. Reasonable rate for the service provided, she is very enthusiastic and really enjoys what she does. Which is a lot. She said she is working on getting an ad up but to PM her through the forum if you want to get in contact for now.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5878147][I]Only?[/I] A [highlight]stinky hooker pussy[/highlight] is a [b]HUGE, deal killing[/b] downside, imo.[/QUOTE]Maybe he lost his smell from covid and she told him her pussy was stinky? That kind of honesty can be the basis for becoming a regular for guys that aren't so shallow!
[QUOTE=Squiggly69;5877723]I'm not really familiar with how Steve operates other than the personal information that he requires that I choose not to give out because of the exact reason he finds himself in now. This was actually my first encounter with Kandee or any of the providers lately because of the lack of reasonable $ providers.
Anyway she just asked me if I ever dealt with Steve and that she use to work for him and why she no longer works for him. Just figured I'd throw my two cents in on what she said about him.
I actually had a good time with her and for a more reasonable donation than what she's advertising! Only downside was she wasn't real fresh down stairs.[/QUOTE]Sounds like instead of calling someone a Douchbag, she needed to use one.
The link, gents:
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/s...ddies/45613641[/URL]
I also attached a pic, because I'm sure the link will die eventually
TLDR: I got robbed. Don't trust this one.
Note: I don't usually post here, I'm from Dayton, but I thought since Middletown is in between Dayton and Cincy, maybe I should tell you guys a well.
I texted Paradise and she was relatively responsive. I don't like to go to Middletown. I've been stood up there twice. In general it's a pretty beat up town. The roads are bad, abandoned buildings abound. But she sent a verify pic without question upon request. And even though she asked for a deposit, when I said I didn't do them, she kept writing. I looked in both the Cincy and Dayton forums (using search) and couldn't locate any solid information, so it was a risk. But I'm not completely risk adverse, that's a bit of the appeal of meeting new providers.
We agreed to meet up at her place and I made the drive down there. Waited for a little while. Texting her to tell her I'd arrived. She appeared at my car, alone. I thought this was odd, considering it was supposed to be an incall. But she wanted to go for a ride. That was cool with me. I only do HJs and CBJs anyway. Those can be done while driving, or accomplished on the side of the road in a few minutes.
I didn't mistrust her immediately. She was in fact the girl in her photos. Really her photos were doctored to give her lighter skin, which was pretty ridiculous and detracted from her beauty. She was probably one of the hottest girls I've found in Dayton.
She wanted to drive, so I did. I made sure I wasn't followed. I purposely ignored some of her directions. We glided through the streets and eventually settled in an alley.
She said she wanted to go to the back. My car is a pretty small sedan, so I wasn't against it. There was more space.
Here's where I fucked up. She asked for the donation and I gave it to her. Now, I know this is a common mistake. Something that only newbies fall for. But I suppose I've been spoiled. Or the environment is different for incalls and this arrangement needed more assurance by action.
We both got out together. I got in the back and she opened her door, then closed it and fled. I got out quickly. She wasn't a very fast runner. I could have caught her. But was it worth the effort? Did she have a knife? I instead stood beside my car and watched her trot across a yard and disappear beside a house. I couldn't help but chuckle. I also couldn't keep this to myself.
Feel free to PM if you have any questions.
[QUOTE=Twisted69;5878657]Does anybody else find these two posts to be coincidentally odd given the current nky situation?[/QUOTE]Wouldn't trust that Ho for nothing.