"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Cujo4;7416260]I posted a few days ago about someone I met at the bar. We had a great time and the connection felt good and I genuinely like her. I regret making that post, she has seen it and sent me screen shots of it. To say she no longer wants to see me again would be an understatement. I have apologized to her and also want to that here. I realize how big of a mistake it was to post something here now and it cost me big time. I don't meet too many women whom I'm totally comfortable being around often. She was one. I want to say I'm sorry.[/QUOTE]I don't think you said anything bad about her as well as her name. She should forgive you and tell you don't do it again. It's men talk. Sometimes we just wanted to share some good news. Good luck, bro.

If a woman wants to meet in public for a first time meet and greet, how do you handle whether to give her cash just to meet for first time and how much? Say you meet for coffee or just ice cream cone and talk for 30 minutes to negotiate a deal for the sex meets to come at a later time? Do you ask the woman if she expects payment just to meet and greet, before the first meet?

This meet and greet is for the woman who wants to check us out to see if we seem normal, safe, kind, respectful. But mainly for her to get an idea if we would be safe to be alone with, and fuck.

[QUOTE=BagIt;7422372]If a woman wants to meet in public for a first time meet and greet, how do you handle whether to give her cash just to meet for first time and how much? Say you meet for coffee or just ice cream cone and talk for 30 minutes to negotiate a deal for the sex meets to come at a later time? Do you ask the woman if she expects payment just to meet and greet, before the first meet?

This meet and greet is for the woman who wants to check us out to see if we seem normal, safe, kind, respectful. But mainly for her to get an idea if we would be safe to be alone with, and fuck.[/QUOTE]No one I know pays if there is no sex involved. I think the meet and greet is for a few things: scope out if you have money, scope out if she can stand to be in the same room w you, scope out if you seem dangerous. The money ask is to try to establish who is going to make the rules (because you have the $$ she knows you can easily take that role so she is trying grab some of that power) AND lastly the no sex meet and greet with money lets her tell herself that she didn't fuck the first time you met and just for the cash. It's a defensive tactic that lets her maintain the fictions "not a hooker" and "he's a friend helping me out". My rule is simple: no cum no cash. I choose the place, I pay cash for the drinks and NEVER bring up money in the context of sex. If she wants money to meet, she needs to ask and I always say no.
Of course, it could also be just a small money scam: ten $50 meet and greets in a week is good money if you are a broke college girl but that word gets around FAST

[QUOTE=BagIt;7422372]If a woman wants to meet in public for a first time meet and greet, how do you handle whether to give her cash just to meet for first time and how much? Say you meet for coffee or just ice cream cone and talk for 30 minutes to negotiate a deal for the sex meets to come at a later time? Do you ask the woman if she expects payment just to meet and greet, before the first meet?

This meet and greet is for the woman who wants to check us out to see if we seem normal, safe, kind, respectful. But mainly for her to get an idea if we would be safe to be alone with, and fuck.[/QUOTE]It's beneficial for both to meet publicly first. I will cover drinks and maybe snacks but that's it. I have walked a couple of times after these due to shit attitude or a vibe of no sexual activity being likely. Our time is valuable also.

[QUOTE=BagIt;7422372]If a woman wants to meet in public for a first time meet and greet, how do you handle whether to give her cash just to meet for first time and how much? Say you meet for coffee or just ice cream cone and talk for 30 minutes to negotiate a deal for the sex meets to come at a later time? Do you ask the woman if she expects payment just to meet and greet, before the first meet?

This meet and greet is for the woman who wants to check us out to see if we seem normal, safe, kind, respectful. But mainly for her to get an idea if we would be safe to be alone with, and fuck.[/QUOTE]I prepare for the meet w / a small gift card, like 25-40, from Sephora or Victoria. If we've got chemistry (and I end up making out or more w / her in my car. You should always try to get her in your car) then I'll give her the card. Also, I have the SB get a hotel room. I sometimes will give them a 100 at the M&G so they know I am good for the room $ at the FC.

[QUOTE=FlipMe69;7425453]It's beneficial for both to meet publicly first. I will cover drinks and maybe snacks but that's it. I have walked a couple of times after these due to shit attitude or a vibe of no sexual activity being likely. Our time is valuable also.[/QUOTE]If they don't mention anything before the M&G then I assume just drinks and food. If they mention $ for a M&G then I pass. It typically means they have GPS and a waste of time. I had one get up and leave in the middle of a restaurant when she realized I wasn't going to pay up for a M&G.