Printable View
[QUOTE=CamperVan10;3758425]I reiterate, "Theory goes out the window and this forum is irrelevant at that time and place. Cooperate a little to get a lot- out of the very public situation. ".[/QUOTE]Cop says"We're not going to arrest you if you're honest with us and cooperate ". You tell cops a little, alot, doesn't really matter. Cop arrests you. While you're in back of cruiser you ask why you're being arrested, you were honest. Cop says sergeant overrode him. Sorry.
To each their own, a person has to evaluate the situation as it comes up & take the course of action they deem best at the time. No one wants to be hassled or arrested, however when LE starts bullying & using gestapo tactics is when I do not & have not cooperated with them. It pisses them off when you don't answer questions or tell them what they want to hear, but fuck them, they had no right to stop you in the first place in the situation as you've stated.
HowardSprague is correct, if you say nothing to them they can not use it against you.
[QUOTE=CamperVan10;3758425]I reiterate, "Theory goes out the window and this forum is irrelevant at that time and place. Cooperate a little to get a lot- out of the very public situation. ".[/QUOTE]Kind of says hey, you can trust me I won't throw you under the bus to save myself. I don't know guy, even if I did sell them out I don't think I would've posted about it here, it just incriminates oneself, then again to you this forum is irrelevant under certain conditions.
[QUOTE=HowardSprague;3758350]This scenario has been covered numerous times here over the years. There is no Stop and Identify statute in MA. Your first response should be, politely, "Am I being detained, officer?" The cop's answer should be "no. " Your next statement should be the question, "So I am free to leave?" The cop's answer should be "yes. " Wish the fine officer a nice day and walk away. If they tell you you are being detained, they have something on you. Inform them you are invoking your Fifth and Sixth Amendment rights to silence and to have counsel present during questioning. Say nothing more. Don't think you can outsmart them with coy misdirection or partial answers. Once you start answering questions, you're making a report to a police officer. Making a false report is a misdemeanor, so you'd better be telling the truth. They are trained at spotting lies and in the art of interrogation. Don't play their game.[/QUOTE]Wait, so, if a cop pulls you over, or stops you on the street or in a public (or private) building, you don't have to show a license?
[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;3758514]Wait, so, if a cop pulls you over, or stops you on the street or in a public (or private) building, you don't have to show a license?[/QUOTE]If you are driving you almost always have to show an I'd if you broke a law or traffic law. Also you do need to show an I'd if you committed a crime or are being arrested.
There are hundreds of "DO NOT TALK TO POLICE" videos on you tube. They are well worth viewing. Here are two of them I picked at random.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH_nP8pX4Fg[/URL]
Have fun watching ;)
Tony :cool:
[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;3758514]Wait, so, if a cop pulls you over, or stops you on the street or in a public (or private) building, you don't have to show a license?[/QUOTE]
No true & steadfast answer to that question, depends on the situation and circumstance, the below kind of sums it up in general terms.
[QUOTE][url]https://www.malawforum.com/content/when-must-one-identify-themselves-police[/yrl]
Giving identification to police in MA
As a general starting point, if you are sitting on a bench, minding your own business, there is no obligation to answer questions or show identification to the police.
When driving a car, if you are pulled over by the police you are required to produce a license and registration. However, in Massachusetts, pedestrians, or those operating motor vehicles who have already produced the required documentation, are not required to answer questions posed by the police. In other words, you can assert your constitutional right to remain silent. Unlike other states, Massachusetts does not have a "stop and identify" law (a law that allows police to arrest a person, who they reasonably believe is involved in criminal activity, for refusing to identify themselves).
Of course, the police CAN arrest you if they have probable cause to believe you committed a felony or if they witness your commission of certain misdemeanors. Depending on the situation, and in order to avoid possible cases of mistaken identification, sometimes it's simply easier to identify yourself to the police and then ask if you are free to go. If the officer says you’re free to go, leave immediately. If you are not allowed to go, that is the time to assert your right to remain silent. Nobody ever talks their way out of arrest, they usually just dig a deeper hole. With that in mind, instead of trying to talk your way out of a crime, it is usually better to contact a Massachusetts criminal defense attorney ASAP after your arrest.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;3758514]Wait, so, if a cop pulls you over, or stops you on the street or in a public (or private) building, you don't have to show a license?[/QUOTE]
Can anybody, please, confirm this 260 thing? Thanks.
[QUOTE=BostonMan781;3758595]If you are driving you almost always have to show an I'd if you broke a law or traffic law. Also you do need to show an I'd if you committed a crime or are being arrested.[/QUOTE]If you are nabbed while getting into your car you must which was reported.
[QUOTE=Skatar018;3758505]To each their own, a person has to evaluate the situation as it comes up & take the course of action they deem best at the time. No one wants to be hassled or arrested, however when LE starts bullying & using gestapo tactics is when I do not & have not cooperated with them. It pisses them off when you don't answer questions or tell them what they want to hear, but fuck them, they had no right to stop you in the first place in the situation as you've stated.
HowardSprague is correct, if you say nothing to them they can not use it against you.
Kind of says hey, you can trust me I won't throw you under the bus to save myself. I don't know guy, even if I did sell them out I don't think I would've posted about it here, it just incriminates oneself, then again to you this forum is irrelevant under certain conditions.[/QUOTE]Would've been a better idea to say nothing of the set up so the others who PMd me thanking me for the heads up to save them from the same, or similar, public indignity I'm sure. Walk a mile in those shoes.
Paid a visit the other day. There is no longer anything closer to me. Drew Elisa, a 40 something unattractive woman. Above average massage and uninspired ST. Has curtains instead of doors on the rooms. I'll repeat in a pinch. Beggars can't be choosers where I live. 50/40. I learned there is a back door that is more discreet.
[QUOTE=Dwyck;3748377]Going to be down in Plymouth and looking for feedback from Blue Asian. Search yields limited results.[/QUOTE]
I'm mostly only posting to see how many of you got a very odd phone call yesterday. The woman from Sunshine Spa called me, scary she has my number still, to tell me that it's closed. I presumed it was a snow day, but then she mentioned something about a new woman owner and that I should not go, that they are closed. I wasn't a fan myself, but I think others might have enjoyed what she used to offer.
Drew a grandma, no oil massage and a violent hi.
One thing about granmas. They sure will get you off.
Nini's is moving in I think she (Vivi) said, about 6 weeks. Ask for a card with the new address and she'll give you one.
I already have brother,
[QUOTE=Skatar018;1278755]Arrested[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=CamperVan10;3759198]Walk a mile in those shoes.[/QUOTE]
I am new to the area and I see there are a few spa's in Franklin, Ma which is very close to me, could you guys help me in which one is the best to go to for some fun and who has the best looking Asian girls. Cheers dorri.