Arrangement Reports

[QUOTE=SGlider;4727288]So I probably jumped the gun on this one a little too soon by posting that. I talked to her since and I'm convinced there was no intention of any setup. We talked for a pretty long time before getting down to it, which led us past the normal time. Now that I look back at the time, I probably should have been out of there by the time he got home. The sad part is, I'd see her again because she is hot, we just had an unfortunate misunderstanding that didn't end well. Sorry for the premature report.[/QUOTE]So what is she doing to make it up to you? Is she going to give you your money back. ? NO. Is she going to let you come through for a quick fuck as soon as you can coordinate it?? If not, then she played you. Whether it's intentionally or unintentionally doesn't matter. You paid the allowance and it was not mutually beneficial.

[QUOTE=AznGuy2001;4728876]It works for me. It could also mean that you've talked to them in the past and they've blocked you?[/QUOTE]No way! I don't think it's possible to get blocked by all of the girls I just saw on that list, something is weird.

I found out why I couldn't see the profiles, I signed up as a sugar baby LOL, my bad, I can see them now.

Thank you!

[QUOTE=GeorgeVerWest;4729372]No way! I don't think it's possible to get blocked by all of the girls I just saw on that list, something is weird.[/QUOTE]Sometimes Links get truncated when they are requoted in subsequent posts. You'll see the url has a bunch of periods in the url string.

[QUOTE=BeNewAgain;4729077]That's a great way to explain it to the girl too. Make her think you're someone she can count on every 10 days - 2 weeks or so for $250. About $750-$1000/ month. Then you fuck her one time for $250 and ghost. That's what I do, and a lot of times it's around $150-$200. I'll tell them I'm really wanting to find someone to come over twice a week because I have a high sex drive and I only want to have this with one girl. If I give you 300/ week, 150/ each time you come over twice weekly. That's around $1200/ month. You'd be surprised how many you can convince with this tactic. I just fucked a girl last week for 125 telling her it would be twice a week, and then I ghosted her.[/QUOTE]LOL fuckn legend 😂 But sounds like a great strategy.

[QUOTE=BeNewAgain;4729077]That's a great way to explain it to the girl too. Make her think you're someone she can count on every 10 days - 2 weeks or so for $250. About $750-$1000/ month. Then you fuck her one time for $250 and ghost. That's what I do, and a lot of times it's around $150-$200. I'll tell them I'm really wanting to find someone to come over twice a week because I have a high sex drive and I only want to have this with one girl. If I give you 300/ week, 150/ each time you come over twice weekly. That's around $1200/ month. You'd be surprised how many you can convince with this tactic. I just fucked a girl last week for 125 telling her it would be twice a week, and then I ghosted her.[/QUOTE]Damn! I thought I was savage. This tactic is epic! Salute to sir.

[QUOTE=BeNewAgain;4729077]That's a great way to explain it to the girl too. Make her think you're someone she can count on every 10 days - 2 weeks or so for $250. About $750-$1000/ month. Then you fuck her one time for $250 and ghost. That's what I do, and a lot of times it's around $150-$200. I'll tell them I'm really wanting to find someone to come over twice a week because I have a high sex drive and I only want to have this with one girl. If I give you 300/ week, 150/ each time you come over twice weekly. That's around $1200/ month. You'd be surprised how many you can convince with this tactic. I just fucked a girl last week for 125 telling her it would be twice a week, and then I ghosted her.[/QUOTE]BeNewAgain you are my hero.

[QUOTE=BeNewAgain;4729077]That's a great way to explain it to the girl too. Make her think you're someone she can count on every 10 days - 2 weeks or so for $250. About $750-$1000/ month. Then you fuck her one time for $250 and ghost. That's what I do, and a lot of times it's around $150-$200. I'll tell them I'm really wanting to find someone to come over twice a week because I have a high sex drive and I only want to have this with one girl. If I give you 300/ week, 150/ each time you come over twice weekly. That's around $1200/ month. You'd be surprised how many you can convince with this tactic. I just fucked a girl last week for 125 telling her it would be twice a week, and then I ghosted her.[/QUOTE]That's great for one person for short term, but long term, what will happen is 1) either the girls will talk, and share your number and / or 2) the next time one of us tries it, we'll be screwed (without any physical contact). Be fair is my advice.

[QUOTE=Hammerhead2;4729616]That's great for one person for short term, but long term, what will happen is 1) either the girls will talk, and share your number and / or 2) the next time one of us tries it, we'll be screwed (without any physical contact). Be fair is my advice.[/QUOTE]Bro that's the genius part of the strategy. If the girl looks good and you feel chemistry and her performance was good too you start seeing her on a regular base. If she is catfishing or not into it you still had fckd a pussy for a budget price. You can rarely go wrong for banging a sugar baby for 125 - 150 a meet. I doubt they are talking to each other cause they are amateurs and do this on the side and if you lose a few that you don't care about anyway it is no big deal.

Does Tatted Barbie host?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/293b14a6-97bf-47ed-a32c-e6fd7a3efba1[/URL]

[QUOTE=Meddic80;4728044]Not a bad deal IMO. Me personally I prefer PPM. Same gal gets boring after a few lay.[/QUOTE]Hey Meddic80, I think it is called "dating" or "marriage".

[QUOTE=BeNewAgain;4729077]That's a great way to explain it to the girl too. Make her think you're someone she can count on every 10 days - 2 weeks or so for $250. About $750-$1000/ month. Then you fuck her one time for $250 and ghost. That's what I do, and a lot of times it's around $150-$200. I'll tell them I'm really wanting to find someone to come over twice a week because I have a high sex drive and I only want to have this with one girl. If I give you 300/ week, 150/ each time you come over twice weekly. That's around $1200/ month. You'd be surprised how many you can convince with this tactic. I just fucked a girl last week for 125 telling her it would be twice a week, and then I ghosted her.[/QUOTE]A lot of guys on here complain about women who are scammers or rinsers or teases, but this is basically the dude version of that. We don't have a lot of room to complain about women who watched a tic toc video and learned the "just need $50 to get my phone turned on" trick if we applaud the "I lied to this girl about how much money I was going to give her!" guys.

Has anyone dealt with your seeking profile having restricted searches.

Damonacy.

[QUOTE=Theargent;4730068]A lot of guys on here complain about women who are scammers or rinsers or teases, but this is basically the dude version of that. We don't have a lot of room to complain about women who watched a tic toc video and learned the "just need $50 to get my phone turned on" trick if we applaud the "I lied to this girl about how much money I was going to give her!" guys.[/QUOTE]I agree with this.

These "arrangements" may be illegal and fucked up but there's got to be honor among thieves at least when it comes to money.

I think you offer a deal in good faith and if it's starting to not work out it can still be ended by either party. It's not worth fucking around for a couple hundred bucks.

Anyone have any luck with this one? Chatting and she sent some great pics / vids. Trying to set up a meet. Let me know if you can. Thanks.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4d51dad4-478d-476b-99e2-81a87f30d2d3[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChiNorthside;4730821]Anyone have any luck with this one? Chatting and she sent some great pics / vids. Trying to set up a meet. Let me know if you can. Thanks.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4d51dad4-478d-476b-99e2-81a87f30d2d3[/URL][/QUOTE]Looks like a picture seller to me or may have GPS. Either way good luck!

SAMe old same old scam. I don't have gas money. Give me gas money and then we can meet. LOL. Like seriously. Are you guys actually falling for this shit. LOL.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8fb093a7-ad9d-47f3-8bb1-b2933d8c3f3a

[QUOTE=Neilsh87;4730318]I agree with this.

These "arrangements" may be illegal and fucked up but there's got to be honor among thieves at least when it comes to money.

I think you offer a deal in good faith and if it's starting to not work out it can still be ended by either party. It's not worth fucking around for a couple hundred bucks.[/QUOTE]Everyone's approach is different, and with mine I have one goal and that's to have my bare cock busting balls deep inside a hot college girl for minimal "allowance".

[QUOTE=StanKost;4729701]Bro that's the genius part of the strategy. If the girl looks good and you feel chemistry and her performance was good too you start seeing her on a regular base. If she is catfishing or not into it you still had fckd a pussy for a budget price. You can rarely go wrong for banging a sugar baby for 125 - 150 a meet. I doubt they are talking to each other cause they are amateurs and do this on the side and if you lose a few that you don't care about anyway it is no big deal.[/QUOTE]Yeah everything you say is exactly why I do it, but you know. Haters going to hate. If she's good, then we hang out once or twice more. Last Sunday night I fucked a hot 27 year old girl twice at my place. Exploded all inside her both times too. Fucking perfect. 200.

[QUOTE=Theargent;4730068]A lot of guys on here complain about women who are scammers or rinsers or teases, but this is basically the dude version of that. We don't have a lot of room to complain about women who watched a tic toc video and learned the "just need $50 to get my phone turned on" trick if we applaud the "I lied to this girl about how much money I was going to give her!" guys.[/QUOTE]This is true. Not going to trash the guys who do it because its really just indicative of how SA has turned into a shit show all around. Back in the day it was all just so much cleaner and easier. Rinsers, pic sellers, etc. Were few and far between and there was less guys pulling shenanigans too.

Now its navigating a mine field for both the guys and the girls. Once SA became mainstream it got polluted with hookers, scammers, shit bag guys, etc. Ever had any girls talk to you about the shit guys pull? The scam attempts, fucking the girl then bolting without paying (This is really common actually), etc. Its crazy.

[QUOTE=PauFord;4733005]This is true. Not going to trash the guys who do it because its really just indicative of how SA has turned into a shit show all around. Back in the day it was all just so much cleaner and easier. Rinsers, pic sellers, etc. Were few and far between and there was less guys pulling shenanigans too.

Now its navigating a mine field for both the guys and the girls. Once SA became mainstream it got polluted with hookers, scammers, shit bag guys, etc. Ever had any girls talk to you about the shit guys pull? The scam attempts, fucking the girl then bolting without paying (This is really common actually), etc. Its crazy.[/QUOTE]I agree and will tell you that I have seen a lot of ladies on SA the last three years and by far the majority will tell me how much nicer I am than most of the guys they met on there. I guess the less nice most guys might be works in favor of those who treat them with a bit of respect. I am not judging. I am an old fart who still enjoys the mental as well as the physical aspect of the arrangement. Obviously we are all or most of all on lockdown but I have met some really nice ladies and had some amazing fun times. If we don't mesh then I don't see her again. I don't overpay. My limit is 200 per meet yet that seems to be enough for about 70-80% of the women. If they want more I politely wish them good luck rather than be rude. Twice after being quoted 500 or 400 and wishing them well, they came back a bit later and said ok.

[QUOTE=Randolph;4733168]I agree and will tell you that I have seen a lot of ladies on SA the last three years and by far the majority will tell me how much nicer I am than most of the guys they met on there. I guess the less nice most guys might be works in favor of those who treat them with a bit of respect. I am not judging. I am an old fart who still enjoys the mental as well as the physical aspect of the arrangement. Obviously we are all or most of all on lockdown but I have met some really nice ladies and had some amazing fun times. If we don't mesh then I don't see her again. I don't overpay. My limit is 200 per meet yet that seems to be enough for about 70-80% of the women. If they want more I politely wish them good luck rather than be rude. Twice after being quoted 500 or 400 and wishing them well, they came back a bit later and said ok.[/QUOTE]One time a girl told me that a guy gave her a sealed envelope and told her that her allowance money is in there. After he was done and left, she opened the envolope to find newspaper inside. That is a new low.

I also stay at 200. My strategy is to find out what they do and from there you can guess how much she makes an hour. Take someone making 15 an hour as example, I would tell her that she needs to work at least 15 hours or more (factoring in the taxes) to make 200. She can make that much easier and faster with me. When you break down the math for them, you would be surprise how many girls would agree to 200 per meet.

So this chick has a great body and after exchanging numbers she starts texting me with messages and great photos (all PG) but showing off her rack. But I respond but there is no mention of sex, apart from a couple of hints from me.

Says she lives with her Mom and is in school studying management (at 28 ?) Then after about a week she hits me up for an iTunes gift card, out of the blue, because she is bored.

I tell her no advances or allowances, but she'll get cash when she is naked in my bed.

Crickets. !

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e1490b81-5555-4ef1-8ad1-b58ae46a98bc[/URL]

I've never used SA before, is there some sort of "Beginner's Guide" or FAQ on this site?

Are you really required to use face pics? What about a phone?

This sounds like it could be fun, but requires a lot of up-front effort vs using pros.

[QUOTE=JohnN;4733996]I've never used SA before, is there some sort of "Beginner's Guide" or FAQ on this site?

Are you really required to use face pics? What about a phone?

This sounds like it could be fun, but requires a lot of up-front effort vs using pros.[/QUOTE]It's a lot of fun. It's a daddy market right now too.

Never use your photo in public if you're married etc. Use a burner phone or a text app.

I originally planned on keeping my account for a month, but I'm on my 3rd month now. New opportunities always come up LOL.

Good luck and have fun!

[QUOTE=Eternalchaoz;4725821][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/00b65d19-0eb1-4e6c-b868-4cc0777d7ec0[/URL]

Anyone have luck with this one? She says she has a hotel in Ohare.[/QUOTE]Ended up hooking up with her, she hosted. Great body and good conversation. Not GFE and robotic, I am good for 2-3 pops and with her it was 1 pop. Tried for round 2 but it was too robotic and I was done. It is a shame because she does have a great body. Kissing is important to me and she wouldn't French kiss! Wouldn't repeat because if this.

[QUOTE=JohnN;4733996]I've never used SA before, is there some sort of "Beginner's Guide" or FAQ on this site?

Are you really required to use face pics? What about a phone? [/QUOTE]Keep your face pics as private pics. Do a google reverse image search on any pics of yours that you do post to see if they can be found. You don't want girls being able to find your social media accounts. You'll need a burner phone or app like Google Voice to get a separate number. Don't be giving out your real cell #.

[QUOTE=JohnN;4733996] This sounds like it could be fun, but requires a lot of up-front effort vs using pros.[/QUOTE]If you think the upfront effort is a lot wait until you dive in. The efforts involved can be extensive.

Out of 25 girls you message with probably only 1 will result in an actual meeting of any kind. SA is a numbers game with the majority of the girls being flaky in responsiveness, have no actual intention of actually meeting, are scammers, etc. But. When you get that 1 out of 25 girl in the sack it all seems worth the effort!

Not trying to sour your outlook on just giving you a dose of the truth so you can be prepared.

Lastly, and most importantly, NEVER EVER use any kind of escort wording when messaging with the girls via SA messaging. You will get banned very quickly from SA if there's any hint of sex and money talk. They use keyword scanning type stuff to search messages for illicit conversations. Just search this forum for the word banned and you'll see tons of guys have been banned from SA for this. Take any and all conversations to texting to discuss that stuff.

Thanks for the info. I think I'll set up an account this week.

[QUOTE=JohnN;4734305]Thanks for the info. I think I'll set up an account this week.[/QUOTE]Before you dish out the bucks for a membership. Take a course in SA management. I. e. Go back and read six months of this boards messages. There is pretty much everything you need to learn posted on this board. Seriously, invest an hour or two and it will pay dividends.

[QUOTE=JohnN;4733996]I've never used SA before, is there some sort of "Beginner's Guide" or FAQ on this site?

Are you really required to use face pics? What about a phone?

This sounds like it could be fun, but requires a lot of up-front effort vs using pros.[/QUOTE]Good general guidelines:

Read the board extensively. Also look at the Richmond VA forum as there's an active thread along with a thread dedicated to archived advice where people have devoted some time to providing guidance.

Unless you really have nothing to lose in your personal life, follow the usual precautions with any type of mongering. Definitely use a burner phone or text app, have a dedicated email, never give out your real full name, don't publicly share real pictures of yourself.

Figure out how you'll execute with a good prospect. The 'traditional' route is make contact, arrange a meet & greet, get behind closed doors. But exactly how you do all that depends on your personal schedule and discretion needs. If you live alone and have no concerns about inviting random girls to your place, you can plan much differently than a married 'weekday warrior' who can only play at certain times and have everything prearranged. If you have more restrictions, know where you could do a meet & greet, which hotels would let you check in early & quickly, etc.

Mentally set your price range. Obviously opinions vary wildly on this, even in some recent threads, so its a very personal philosophy. Some have no problems throwing significant sums around at anyone attractive and willing, others are much more conservative & don't want to blow all their play money on one prospect or experience. Also depends on how likely you are to want to end up with a repeat SB or if you're just playing the field.

With all that in mind, now join up and start making contacts. As someone else said, its very much a 'sales funnel'. Meaning you will have a declining number of prospects moving from just answering messages, to talking seriously, to willing to set up a meet, to actually showing up. Read the board again for a lot of tips on weeding out girls who are only there to sell something (pics or vids) or have no intention of actually getting intimate. After a few initial messages on the site, move quickly to text so that no hints of compensation or activities are in the SA messages. They're apparently banning much more aggressively these days for anything sounding like solicitation, so take that kind of conversation quickly off site. Once you have that kind of exchange going, push for some kind of meet & greet soon, as that will be your biggest hint that she's a serious prospect. If they don't want to meet in public or already have their own hotel room, chances are you're dealing with a pro or semi pro at best. Not always the worst thing in the world, but if that's not what you're looking for, that's the signal to move on.

Try to set up a M&G somewhere casual (not expensive). In my personal experience the best route to affordable fun is being nice and non threatening at a M&G. If the girl is at all interested in a real sugar arrangement, a nice chat with a friendly guy who isn't obsessively trying to set a rate for every act in the book can be a ticket to sometimes half the price they like to throw out in early contact. If that goes well at all and you've prepared a place to do more, you should be on your way to some fun that doesn't break the bank. Obviously, performance always varies and there's no real way to guarantee that with 'real' girls, but I've rarely been truly disappointed or felt ripped off.

Any info on this one? She's initially looking for 500 ppm and sent a couple of really hot vids. I've spoken to her on the phone, but she's very touchy about doing FaceTime. Just want to make sure she's not a catfish.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bc818b84-05e0-4873-8abb-b94cb97800d8[/URL]

[QUOTE=JohnN;4734305]Thanks for the info. I think I'll set up an account this week.[/QUOTE]Before you start, try to create your own rules to follow.

Here are some rules I use for myself.

1) Check the recent location first. If it's not in the US, then 99.9% of the time it's a scammer.

2) Find out the girl's location as early as possible, so you are not wasting your time talking to a girl that you are never going to meet. I am in south suburb. As an example, there is no way I am driving to Waukegan to meet a girl. Some girls might be willing to meet you half way, so don't completely give up. Basically, know how far you are willing to drive. A lot of girls list Chicago as their location, but they are really in the suburbs.

3) Try to actually read the profiles if you have time. As an example, some girls will put a question in their profiles and you need to answer the question in your message. Otherwise, they will ignore your message because you didn't read the profile. Also, I try to find something that we have in common based on their profiles to make my message stand out. This only works if you have the time as you will soon find that SA is a numbers game.

4) I try to message girls when they are online at the same time as me. The reason is that it gives me a better chance of the girls actually reading my messages. Think about it. If you message a hot girl who is not online, the next time she logs in your message is probably buried in page 3. The chance of her reading your message is not as good as if your message is on page 1.

5) Know what types of girls you want to go after. For example, I know big girls need love too, but I am just not into them. Curvy usually means bigger girls. Also, study their pictures. If the pictures only show their face, then there is a good chance they are hiding something.

6) Try to move to text as soon as you can. This is mostly because you don't want to get banned by SA for talking money / escort term, but also the chance of a girl replying to a text is better than a SA message.

7) Try to find out what their schedule is like, so you can see if it matches yours. If you can meet during the weekdays only, but she can only meet during the weekends then there is no points in talking more. Most of the arrangements don't work either because of the location or schedule.

8) Know what you are after before signing up. By that I mean, are you looking to fuck as many girls as you can or are you looking for a few regulars. Your message will differ depending on what your goal is. So if you are looking to fuck as many girls as you can, then you can make your offer right away. If a girl is not dtf, then you can move on to the next one.

There are more rules that I use but did not list. The point of this post is to let you know you need to have a strategy in place before you sign up.

[QUOTE=OFCharlie;4733341]One time a girl told me that a guy gave her a sealed envelope and told her that her allowance money is in there. After he was done and left, she opened the envolope to find newspaper inside. That is a new low.

I also stay at 200. My strategy is to find out what they do and from there you can guess how much she makes an hour. Take someone making 15 an hour as example, I would tell her that she needs to work at least 15 hours or more (factoring in the taxes) to make 200. She can make that much easier and faster with me. When you break down the math for them, you would be surprise how many girls would agree to 200 per meet.[/QUOTE]So that same girl probably tried a money up front scam on about 5-10 guys per day. They all do. Even the ones that actually come through and have a successful arrangement. They all will attempt money upfront. Event the ones that actually meet, they still will try for the "gas money" or whatever. I've fucked numerous girls from SA where I had to politely decline sending money up front multiple times to the same girl before they finally just came over. So do I feel sorry for that girl that got newspaper clippings. Absolutely not! Would I do it, probably not. But I'd be tempted.

[QUOTE=Jhaf07;4734648]Any info on this one? She's initially looking for 500 ppm and sent a couple of really hot vids. I've spoken to her on the phone, but she's very touchy about doing FaceTime. Just want to make sure she's not a catfish.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bc818b84-05e0-4873-8abb-b94cb97800d8[/URL][/QUOTE]I just looked at her profile which I have seen before. I don't remember if it listed Lansing, Mi before but it does now. In case you didn't realise it.

I'm surprised Seeking allowed her to use it. "College student with a heart (and pussy) of gold".

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d233099f-5e4c-475f-8604-a9f581a0a547[/URL]

[QUOTE=LoveSmallPerky;4735538]I just looked at her profile which I have seen before. I don't remember if it listed Lansing, Mi before but it does now. In case you didn't realise it.[/QUOTE]Yes, (at least according to her) she's a student at UofC who is currently back in MI due to schools shutting down. She said she's had multiple arrangements with different guys on SA--hoping one of those guys is on here and could give a brief review before I dive in.

[QUOTE=BeNewAgain;4735128]So that same girl probably tried a money up front scam on about 5-10 guys per day. They all do. Even the ones that actually come through and have a successful arrangement. They all will attempt money upfront. Event the ones that actually meet, they still will try for the "gas money" or whatever. I've fucked numerous girls from SA where I had to politely decline sending money up front multiple times to the same girl before they finally just came over. So do I feel sorry for that girl that got newspaper clippings. Absolutely not! Would I do it, probably not. But I'd be tempted.[/QUOTE]Which in turn makes more ladies demand deposits and money up front, which is universally hated in this forum. And I just don't get this attitude. If you hate women that much, don't fuck them. If you don't hate women then treat them with respect when you fuck them, hold up your end of the financial bargain, and move on if they don't meet your requirements / standards. Society has enough assholes in it, being "tempted" to leave an envelope without money in it just encourages more assholery.

Anyone see this one, talking with her as we speak!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7edbbf49-f00c-4f05-8f24-f0a431ac5b5d[/URL]

[QUOTE=LoveSmallPerky;4735606]I'm surprised Seeking allowed her to use it. "College student with a heart (and pussy) of gold".

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d233099f-5e4c-475f-8604-a9f581a0a547[/URL][/QUOTE]She signed up yesterday, I'm sure she will be either caught by the SA police or reported on soon. Especially now.

[QUOTE=FightingFungus;4735967]Anyone see this one, talking with her as we speak!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7edbbf49-f00c-4f05-8f24-f0a431ac5b5d[/URL][/QUOTE]If I remember correctly, she wanted something stupid like 600 last summer so I didn't bother.