Strip Club Reports

Went there at night during a weekday. Had dances with two girls Trinity (white) and Platinum (Puerto Rican). Both with nice curves and asses. I inquired about "extra" services in the VIP room and both of the girls mentioned that those days are gone and all the girls are being watched by the manager. I am not sure if they are telling the truth or giving me the the run around. So that I will spend more dances on the couch or whatever.

I see posts from senior members that they get "lucky" with the girls and how do you break the ice guys. Share the wealth so that we will also get enlightened. LOL

Venom & Curves.
The night before my Tucson business trip read up on clubs. Venom with its remodel sounded interesting (previously Spellbound and then Candy Store) and liked the idea from one report of the buffet. Including my favorite popcorn. But some reviews indicated dancers set their own pricing and all the complex choice were described as "made me dizzy."

When arrived I thought it was closed with the huge fenced in parking lot etc. But I decided to park in the So shopping center lot and walk around the construction and see for sure if closed. I had missed the earlier entrance that was open into the club area.

Nice newer looking clean club. No initial outer area but nice guy sitting at bar checks you out. No cover asked for. Was about 5PM on Thursday. TV screens all over but didn't make it too bright but about right. I hate clubs so dark can hardly see dancers but better for dance privacy.

Club seemed very friendly, good mix of dancers from a bit to large for me to some more my type (more slender, smaller natural breasts). My timing was probably wrong since no popcorn that I could see but no cover charge either. I was on my way back to Phoenix and also wanted to spend some time at Curves so didn't want to stay too long. I would up with dances from the two I found most attractive. No pressure to buy any drinks.

Jasslynne
Smaller very sexy body asked if could sit in my lap. Very nice body in lap and friendly. Did 3 very nice $10 dances with only limit as said they watch carefully and can't touch breasts. Ok with me, although my favorite to do is nice breast massage and great response I often get. But I don't push it and enjoy with that limit. Said dances were only $7 but bet most guys round to $10. Seemed flat fee not based on negotiations. I prefer flat fees and have bunch of folded $10's in left pocket and $20's in right so don't have to go dig in wallet after dances.

Lezette.
I had been eying her as she was mostly sitting around in back area. Liked her face and smile. Besides rest of body! Was glad when she approached me, although just quickly asked if want a dance vs any attempt to chat first etc. But dances very nice, After I think just had 2 $10 dances, left but in a few minutes came back and asked if she could join me in chair next to me. Held hands and had a very good intelligent conversation about many things.

Nice club could spend more time here if I lived in Tucson. Now on to Curves.

Curves.

Heading back to Phoenix had read interesting reviews of Curves and I was heading back to freeway on Grant so close by. Someone at Venom I visited first talked about how bad Curves was with nasty gals etc. I was also expecting more gals that tilt forward from the weight of big man made breasts etc vs the smaller natural breasts I prefer.

I was delighted to find mostly attractive dancers as well as the many servers which at times seemed to be more drink gals than dancers working the floor. This was about 6:30 PM Thursday 10/27. No pressure to buy any drinks. Have zero interest in drinks or stage dancing but honest intimate high touch human mutual interaction but nothing directly sexual.

Looking around almost all the guys were getting air dances basically with their hand at their sides so at first I thought this would not be of any interest to me. However with my kind of interactive touch had no problem with dancers I was with and as always varying degree of the kind of intimacy interaction I enjoy (see my Phoenix reviews for more ideas what I like).

I didn't like that when you walk in the door a guy guides you to where to sit. Basically I then moved to where I preferred with no issue. Since I have zero interest in gawking at stage dancers prefer further back etc. Overall atmosphere seemed very friendly and its a good size, clean nicely laid out club. Had printed out the online coupon which is exactly the same as Bandaid in Phoenix- same gal and wording just different name. Owner also owns Highlighter and at least one other Phoenix club, forget which.

Towl or Tara
Thought said name towel or towl but later on stage announcer said Tara, so assume hear name wrong above the noise they call music. Tall really nice personality, ideal soft skin I like and she mentioned on nice by soft hands felt on her body (often get that comment). She pointed out her "small" hands. Nice two $10 dances. About a 3 on my 0-5 intimacy scale with 5 being very rare

McKinsey
Since asked my background (CPA) she mentioned taking accounting at college but boring. Nice body but less on intimacy, only did I $10 dance.

Scarlet
Nice smile. Nice contact and body but more wild then intimate.

Cassidy.
Friendly talked about Phoenix clubs and knows Hailey who I enjoy at Bandaid in Phoenix. She use to work at Cheetah's in Phoenix. One $10 dance only about 2 on my intimacy scale.

Blossom
Very tall nice body, one enjoyable $10 dance but seemed sad and not that intimate.

If I lived in Tucson I would probably spend more time here as well as at Venom, although not quite as good contact as some Phoenix clubs but nicer physically than some. Some reports say gals too aggressive going after you for dances but old Dave didn't have that problem. Long spells of no approaches which I wanted but prefer the sit in lap after "Can I join you" vs coming up from behind "want to dance". Typical mix of both like at most clubs.

Background
First time back to Tucson in about 2 years. I use to be more active in Tucson and even had a Tucson phone years ago. But wasting so much time going there and the CPA that was referring clients to me sadly died surfing in Hawaii quite a few years ago.

In the past I never liked any of the Tucson clubs since as most know I have zero interest in stage dancing or drinks, but enjoy the quality interactive contact with women as real people not just sex objects. I gave up on Phoenix clubs for about 10 years after the law changed that I fought against at City Council, talk radio etc. Then I fell in love with the Ontario Canada strip clubs with full nude contact, no high VIP room prices and no legal issues.

For the last year or so there is been little or no enforcement of the illegal to even hug basically law in Phoenix and some clubs are more like those in Canada, although still not as nice and depends on club and dancers. I always fear enforcement will return of guys try and take it too far. Obviously should not be anything sexual but I enjoy great intimate touch human interaction that we need more of in our culture and enjoy the great response I often get from dancers.

Heading for Tucson I did some fast research on review sites and limited my interest to two clubs, Curves and Venom. My meeting was on the extreme West side of Tucson so both of these clubs sort of on my way back to Phoenix although had do go a bit South to Venom. Was going to skip it since Curves directly on my return route (Grant near freeway) but my GPS showed that Venom was actually closer when I checked it. So went to both clubs.

Was there today at around 3 pm. After patiently waiting for a dancer, the one whom I had come to visit, for about half an hour for her to finish her dances for a total cheapskate, I thought that she would come to me. The monger, description in previous sentence, kind of cornered her into a conversation. She had already suggested to me that she would come to me, but this guy kept chatting her up for 10 more dances. Jesus Christ! Dude! If you want her company let her dance for you and pay her for her time. Don't chat her up after you are done with your money, you loser! Let her go, she is not your psychiatrist!

This left me soo annoyed that I left. Damn man! Sucked!

To all mongerers don't do that, it's frustrating!

[QUOTE=Tucson Player;1308321]but this guy kept chatting her up for 10 more dances. Jesus Christ! Dude! If you want her company let her dance for you and pay her for her time. Don't chat her up after you are done with your money, you loser! Let her go, she is not your psychiatrist! This left me soo annoyed that I left. Damn man! Sucked! To all mongerers don't do that, it's frustrating![/QUOTE]I doubt dancers get stuck like this unless they want to. They can simply leave after dances.

I have had this happen many times in Phoenix as dancers say its so rare to meet someone that can carry on an intelligent conversation and will spend time with me without doing dances. I am not being cheap I am interacting with a dancer as a human that sometimes wants company also and need a break from just being someone's sex object or being with players.

[QUOTE=DavePHX; 1308554]I doubt dancers get stuck like this unless they want to. They can simply leave after dances.

I have had this happen many times in Phoenix as dancers say its so rare to meet someone that can carry on an intelligent conversation and will spend time with me without doing dances. I am not being cheap I am interacting with a dancer as a human that sometimes wants company also and need a break from just being someone's sex object or being with players.[/QUOTE]I doubt that Dancers want to have meaningful conversations with Hobbyists in the club. Their main job is to make money as it is their livelihood. It could be that they take breaks between dances for a few minutes. I am guilty of enticing them (sometimes) that there is lot more for them. This could be more dances and sometimes the Dancers want to make "friends" with you. Afterall they are humanbeings with same shit we go through.

When a beautiful girl WANTS to sit and talk with me with no financial obligation in a strip club, I am thinking with my pecker and my brain is in total hybernation. So, I apologize in advance for any infraction where my pecker is in total control. LOL

[QUOTE=DavePHX; 1308554]I doubt dancers get stuck like this unless they want to. They can simply leave after dances.

I have had this happen many times in Phoenix as dancers say its so rare to meet someone that can carry on an intelligent conversation and will spend time with me without doing dances. I am not being cheap I am interacting with a dancer as a human that sometimes wants company also and need a break from just being someone's sex object or being with players.[/QUOTE]I understand what you are saying, you spend your money, you have nice conversation, the problem was that she had indicated to this guy that she was coming to me, but he kinda insisted that she sit there. It looked funny. Also dancers don't want to piss off clientele so mongerers might think that they are having a good nice conversation but it is just that a dancer is being polite.

Anyhow, water under the bridge, I will go see her again today.

My 2 cents. If you want a dancer to come to you, there are two great scenerios. One, tip her when she goes on stage and ler her know that youy want some dances. Secondly, tip a waitress to wisper in her ear that you are waiting for her. But the best is motion to her that you are heading into the VIP or Champagne room, and she will sure follow. We all know that "money" is their number 1 priority. And maybe the two of them were discussing take out. Or maybe he was paying her for her time and you didn't see the exchange. Or maybe it was a sugar daddy. We go to strip clubs for a million different reasons. You may have just been upset because your little head was getting SUPER impatient. I've been so impatient at times that I begin to talk to myself in my head (the larger of the two) as I sit waiting so IMpatiently. I forgot this one: You could also tip the waitress to take a napkin to the dj booth to CALL her to go to the dj booth. And then she can read the note that says that you've been waiting for her. But if you do this, then VIP or Champage room is a must. Sorry: I had too much time on my hands this morning. Hopefully my suggestions helped in some way. Enjoy the fun in our local clubs. Enjoy them while they last.

[QUOTE=CuteAndCoo;1308768]My 2 cents. If you want a dancer to come to you, there are two great scenerios. One, tip her when she goes on stage and ler her know that youy want some dances. Secondly, tip a waitress to wisper in her ear that you are waiting for her. But the best is motion to her that you are heading into the VIP or Champagne room, and she will sure follow. We all know that "money" is their number 1 priority. And maybe the two of them were discussing take out. Or maybe he was paying her for her time and you didn't see the exchange. Or maybe it was a sugar daddy. We go to strip clubs for a million different reasons. You may have just been upset because your little head was getting SUPER impatient. I've been so impatient at times that I begin to talk to myself in my head (the larger of the two) as I sit waiting so IMpatiently. I forgot this one: You could also tip the waitress to take a napkin to the dj booth to CALL her to go to the dj booth. And then she can read the note that says that you've been waiting for her. But if you do this, then VIP or Champage room is a must. Sorry: I had too much time on my hands this morning. Hopefully my suggestions helped in some way. Enjoy the fun in our local clubs. Enjoy them while they last.[/QUOTE]I was thinking with my little head! Will use these tricks the next time.

Thanks!

There is an absolutely gorgeous 20 year old dancer at one of the clubs and when I had private dances with her, she did not even let me touch her. Absolutely no hands. But she was hot. So I kept going once every two weeks or so and had 4 to 6 dances and after 4 or 5 visits, she let me use my hands sparingly.

Finally few weeks back, I had freedom to roam her body (but no FOV or FIV).

Finally last week, she even LFK and FOV / FOB and gave me her digits so that I can find out if she working that day. BTW, she said she will kill me (I hope not) if I mention this to anyone or even suggest that she gave me the number. I started a conversation (texting) to see if she wants to meet me outside for some hanky panky. She finally said yes and she dropped the bomb. She wants $5. 0, yes five Benjamin's. And she wants me to book a 3 star hotel. Obviously no Motel 6. And she swears that she has never done this even though pretty one everyone asks for her digits to see her outside. Supposedly she is not that type of girl. I cannot imaging dancers refuse to make quick $ outside.

The quandary is $, but she is my dream come true (almost). I cannot imagine any provider charging that kind of dough. Instead of saying no, what would be a good way to negotiate a longer service and more services (hehe). Any of you guys came across a situation and how to go ahead or gracefully get out of this. Obviously, I would like to go see her at the Strip joint even if I decide not to meet her in a motel.

[QUOTE=Kamma32;1309848]The quandary is $, but she is my dream come true (almost). I cannot imagine any provider charging that kind of dough.[/QUOTE]This is quite common in Phoenix with these kind of quoted fees. They think they are goddesses since everyone is lusting after their bodies. Some escorts get $1000 / hour but of course have fewer available customers but that is ok they only have to work 5th the time vs $200 which is more typical.

The escort rates in the USA are often the highest in the world since we have the legal risks that does not exist in most of the world

[QUOTE=Kamma32;1309848]The quandary is $, but she is my dream come true (almost). I cannot imagine any provider charging that kind of dough. Instead of saying no, what would be a good way to negotiate a longer service and more services (hehe). Any of you guys came across a situation and how to go ahead or gracefully get out of this. Obviously, I would like to go see her at the Strip joint even if I decide not to meet her in a motel.[/QUOTE]This happens to me fairly regularly. I'm fairly certain that sometimes the dancer is stringing me along to get me to spend money on her in the club,"So she can get to know me better". When push comes to shove, she quotes me a ridiculous rate to avoid having to let on she never was intending to meet outside the club. I am sure this isn't always the case though. I suppose the thinking is, if you can make a few hundred dancing, you should make more if you're going to be doing more.

On the occasions where a dancer has quoted me outrageous (in my mind) fees, I've simply said,"That about x times more than I was expecting." Some have said,"Oh well." and moved on. Others have dropped their prices significantly. Maybe not during that conversation but on subsequent visits. I've had outcall from knockout dancers for less than what I've paid so so dancers in the VIP at CS.

Another thing I'd like to say is, I couldn't imagine paying that kind of money for an escort unless I was making significantly more money or had hit the lottery. There are quite a few very attractive and very pleasing providers that you can have for $-$$. I haven't seen many of the top of the line providers in Tucson because it doesn't make sense to me on a cost analysis basis. And to be honest, I don't know if a girl is going to do it for me just because she is a knock out. Sometimes it is quite the opposite.

That being said, I wouldn't completely rule it out either. If you decide to pay her $$$$$, I wouldn't fault you for it. You know how much you make and how much $$$$$ is to you. You know how attractive this girl is to you. She's danced for you so you know more about how she moves, smells, speaks, than if you were seeing an escort for the first time. It might sound trite but good memories can be made with some of these women. I think that is worth something.

[QUOTE=Kamma32;1309848]The quandary is $, but she is my dream come true (almost). I cannot imagine any provider charging that kind of dough. Instead of saying no, what would be a good way to negotiate a longer service and more services (hehe). Any of you guys came across a situation and how to go ahead or gracefully get out of this. Obviously, I would like to go see her at the Strip joint even if I decide not to meet her in a motel.[/QUOTE]A little quick math shows you've already spent what she's asking on dances alone. You said she's almost a dream come true. Would it be worth it to you to seal the deal? DH gave some good advice. You can simply say it was a little more than you were expecting. She may come down a bit or she may not. In either case, she's not likely to turn you down for more dances in the club.

Try the "rocking chair test." Pretend you are in your twilight years and sitting on your front porch in your rocking chair looking back on your life. Say you decided not to go through with it. Would you regret not knowing what might have been?

I say GO FOR IT, with no regrets. If I found someone that I thought was worth the price to me I would do it. But, a good point that was mentioned is it fits in your budget and if it's truly worth it to you. In this case, it sounds like you would do what it takes to make it happen. So ake it happen. And let us know how it went. Better yet, give us her name and number after you're all done. Hahha. Play safe. Be safe.

How much of a dream is she? A useful thought for making these decisions: "Money spent on (fill in the blank) is an investment in life. You can't remember what you didn't do. How important is this to make this investment in your life?"

Gents,

Appreciate all the input from you guys from posts and PM's. The takeout for me is. If Alexia charges $.8 and Morgan charges $$.75, and both are 9 or 10 both for looks and performance, it would be criminal to pay double for my "dream date". I would pay her $$$ and anything more would be insulting to honest girls who keep us hobbyists happy.

So, I decided to politely refuse the offer, but go see her occasionally at the strip joint to see how she reacts and maybe make a new offer as suggested by DH.