[QUOTE=SnAppleMgfm;4918609]Young women? The cutest ones I've met were at Q / CNE, Shangri-la, and Spring Oriental.[/QUOTE]Went to Spring today. Youngish masseuse. No tease, no extras. At least she didn't complain abput the minimal tip.
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[QUOTE=SnAppleMgfm;4918609]Young women? The cutest ones I've met were at Q / CNE, Shangri-la, and Spring Oriental.[/QUOTE]Went to Spring today. Youngish masseuse. No tease, no extras. At least she didn't complain abput the minimal tip.
Decided to try out the comfort place today. Legit massage, no tease, no extras. But really a quality massage. I may go back when I'm just tight.
[QUOTE=WestSidePunter;4919390]Went to Spring today. Youngish masseuse. No tease, no extras. At least she didn't complain abput the minimal tip.[/QUOTE]I went shortly after they reopened, don't remember who I had, but I definitely had HE option. Turned it down because I was looking for more and got it elsewhere. Had a good time there before prior to lock down as well.
Long time lurker, and coming back to the hobby after about a year break. I originally stumbled into all of this after finding a nice ad for an independent Asian massage place on Craigslist back when they allowed ads. Not even sure if the HE's really existed in the world, I went and the lady knew it was my first time and was very accommodating and a bit more blunt on the rubbing and 'you like? You want?' on the flip. Then I realized this is real and amazing. Went to her for a year until she got pregnant and retired from the business. Then went on a bender for the next several months visiting all the Asian places on the west side and a few that seemed like sure things in Vancouver. Some hits, some misses, and others that could have been good, but maybe my inexperience was too obvious. I've since realized that all I have done is read about some basic moves that I do frequently (ie, rub her leg as she is massaging, allow her a little more access to the boys, and a little heavy breathing at the right times.) However, as I look back on my experiences, I realize that many girls treat things differently, and some just ignore all together (maybe too forward), I had an experience in Eugene when I was down on business one night where she just rubbed her tits on my head during the massage and a little dirty talk and was blatant about a tip loudly before I walked out the door. Once she wanted a tip before anything started. So then I got to thinking, I wonder if my process is actually 'normal', because I tend to treat it like a legit massage establishment. I walk in, pay for the 60 min massage, get naked, lay down and wait, she comes in does a crappy massage, 50/50% on whether they offer HE or DIY, 50/50% on utc touching, then they finish, walk out, I get dressed and leave a tip that I feel is appropriate on the table / nightstand usually under the light where they can immediately see it, say goodbye and leave. Is that how most of you do it? I don't mind leaving a tip as I get settled in, but of course I don't want to tip 60-100 on something that will end up being DIY in the end. I expect to pay. 6-7 for a hour massage, and then traditionally tip. 4 for DIY, . 6 for HE, and have never experienced BJ, BBJ or full service, although the place that I used to attend next to the home depot in Beaverton, I have definitely heard one of you loud boys pounding the shit out of one of the girls as I was getting my massage in the next room where me and my massage girl just giggled because it was so loud and obvious. So I know that stuff does go on at some places with some girls. Do most of you tip up front, or after? Give directly to the girl or on the table? I have no problem paying for my time, but do expect it to be fulfilled in the long run. I'm not a cheap bastard by any means. Although, I do look back and realize that I was often tipping. 60 with the occasional. 4 or. 5 on a DIY ending that isn't very fulfilling, and think maybe it's too much and I should only do. 2 for DIY as a signal to them that DIY just isn't cutting it for the price. I never want to over tip and set the wrong expectations for me and all of you.
Any info helps and I appreciate the feedback ahead of time. Just trying to get back into the hobby and tune my technique as to not waste money and make sure that proper amount and etiquette is followed to best stay inline with what everyone else is doing.
[QUOTE=JaredSmith;4923219]Long time lurker, and coming back to the hobby after about a year break. I originally stumbled into all of this after finding a nice ad for an independent Asian massage place on Craigslist back when they allowed ads. Not even sure if the HE's really existed in the world, I went and the lady knew it was my first time and was very accommodating and a bit more blunt on the rubbing and 'you like? You want?' on the flip. Then I realized this is real and amazing. Went to her for a year until she got pregnant and retired from the business. Then went on a bender for the next several months visiting all the Asian places on the west side and a few that seemed like sure things in Vancouver. Some hits, some misses, and others that could have been good, but maybe my inexperience was too obvious. I've since realized that all I have done is read about some basic moves that I do frequently (ie, rub her leg as she is massaging, allow her a little more access to the boys, and a little heavy breathing at the right times.) However, as I look back on my experiences, I realize that many girls treat things differently, and some just ignore all together (maybe too forward), I had an experience in Eugene when I was down on business one night where she just rubbed her tits on my head during the massage and a little dirty talk and was blatant about a tip loudly before I walked out the door. Once she wanted a tip before anything started. So then I got to thinking, I wonder if my process is actually 'normal', because I tend to treat it like a legit massage establishment. I walk in, pay for the 60 min massage, get naked, lay down and wait, she comes in does a crappy massage, 50/50% on whether they offer HE or DIY, 50/50% on utc touching, then they finish, walk out, I get dressed and leave a tip that I feel is appropriate on the table / nightstand usually under the light where they can immediately see it, say goodbye and leave. Is that how most of you do it? I don't mind leaving a tip as I get settled in, but of course I don't want to tip 60-100 on something that will end up being DIY in the end. I expect to pay. 6-7 for a hour massage, and then traditionally tip. 4 for DIY, . 6 for HE, and have never experienced BJ, BBJ or full service, although the place that I used to attend next to the home depot in Beaverton, I have definitely heard one of you loud boys pounding the shit out of one of the girls as I was getting my massage in the next room where me and my massage girl just giggled because it was so loud and obvious.[/QUOTE]I would rather decline and not tip if offered DYI. I can do that at home. . 4 for the HE. . 6-. 8 for BJ / CBJ. For FS I prefer not to exceed $$ total, entrance + tip. Anything more then that you can go to a provider with a mattress.
[QUOTE=Pdx503;4923772]I would rather decline and not tip if offered DYI. I can do that at home. . 4 for the HE. . 6-. 8 for BJ / CBJ. For FS I prefer not to exceed $$ total, entrance + tip. Anything more then that you can go to a provider with a mattress.[/QUOTE]I am on board with Pdx503 and I never go for DIY. I would tell her she can do it better.
At a new place with no Intel, I would be like you in assuming it is legit and wait for her signals before doing anything more that maybe touching her legs. When I tip, I hand it to her on the way out. I don't negotiate but I reward extra effort. I never get in a discussion of finance for pleasures. If I decline a DIY and she does not take appropriate action I will tip $20.
This newerish place on 82 in the mini strip mall at 1120 is a place best to avoid, especially if she says her name is cindy.
Pay the house fee she takes me to a room, 50 for 30 min 60 for an hour. From the onset the massage was so weak I knew it was going to be a rush thing. Sprayed down with the alcohol, choke choke. So 10 to 15 minutes on my stomach she goes for the grab with her hand a few times and her fake moans. No hot towel to clean off the junk on my backside, goes right for the crazy upsell, no FS option, hits a 200 note for oral service, haha, not a chance, wants 100 for a HJ and get some tits in my face, not a chance, then 80 for a HJ, then 60 nope just finish this weak ass massage, she pops out a tit to entice me, nope not working I have played this game before. She says ok 40 for a HJ, no roam otc even as she places herself out of reach.
Wanted to rush me out in 40 , I'm like no I paid for an hour, she says its been an hour and comments my massage is really good, haha, uh no look the clock it was xxxx when I came in, does this annoying head massage and the only satisfaction I got was taking as much of that hour I could. She left the room way too many times I think she was cooking in the back.
So if you want to throw away a 100 bucks and get a lame ass weak shitty massage then cindy is your girl, there may be someone else here better but this girl aint it.
[QUOTE=JaredSmith;4923219]I wonder if my process is actually 'normal', because I tend to treat it like a legit massage establishment. I walk in, pay for the 60 min massage, get naked, lay down and wait, she comes in does a crappy massage, 50/50% on whether they offer HE or DIY, 50/50% on utc touching, then they finish, walk out, I get dressed and leave a tip that I feel is appropriate on the table / nightstand usually under the light where they can immediately see it, say goodbye and leave.[/QUOTE]Well one of the biggest things you're missing is talking to her. You connect a little, you get her comfortable to suggestions. Other than that, don't put the towel on, ask for soft pressure. I used to leave out money to show what I'm there for, but it often got looked over or tended to make the girls greedy and ask for more than usual. Since it didn't always guarantee HE, I stopped doing it and just hand tip over to girl after massage.
At this point, it's really figuring out which girls [I]don't[/I] do HE as I've found most the spots around here to be hits.
[QUOTE=NoFearToTry;4924641]This newerish place on 82 in the mini strip mall at 1120 is a place best to avoid, especially if she says her name is cindy.
Pay the house fee she takes me to a room, 50 for 30 min 60 for an hour. From the onset the massage was so weak I knew it was going to be a rush thing. Sprayed down with the alcohol, choke choke. So 10 to 15 minutes on my stomach she goes for the grab with her hand a few times and her fake moans. No hot towel to clean off the junk on my backside, goes right for the crazy upsell, no FS option, hits a 200 note for oral service, haha, not a chance, wants 100 for a HJ and get some tits in my face, not a chance, then 80 for a HJ, then 60 nope just finish this weak ass massage, she pops out a tit to entice me, nope not working I have played this game before. She says ok 40 for a HJ, no roam otc even as she places herself out of reach.
Wanted to rush me out in 40 , I'm like no I paid for an hour, she says its been an hour and comments my massage is really good, haha, uh no look the clock it was xxxx when I came in, does this annoying head massage and the only satisfaction I got was taking as much of that hour I could. She left the room way too many times I think she was cooking in the back.
So if you want to throw away a 100 bucks and get a lame ass weak shitty massage then cindy is your girl, there may be someone else here better but this girl aint it.[/QUOTE]Yea. She is an upsell.
I went las week. I payed for 1 hr 15 minutes into the massage she asked me what I want, I said everything. She says no. So I told her to finish the massage. She then began saying how young and pretty she was and she charge 100 for a HJ. LOL. I said good for you, but I just want you to finish the massaje. Yes, please avoid at all cost. Also the rooms are not private, walls don't go all the way to the ceiling. You can hear people out side the building.
Was taking care of business yesterday, noticed their sign and decided to check it out. Unfortunately, didn't have time to stay. Very pretty Chinese lady, 25-30 highlighted hair named Lucy greeted me, told me 50 half 70 hour. I will stop by when I have more time, especially if she is available.
Stopped in after being referred by another local spot between Hillsboro and Cornelius that was too busy to make time, but happy to refer. Went to Tranquil, greeted by Jasmine, 40's Chinese, average / slim build. Very friendly personality, decent English and strong massage technique that she obviously took some schooling for. Opted for 1 hr at. 7, massage itself was good, but spent 95% of time on my front. Allowed OTC touching. On the flip, massage was not good and very generic. Grazed boys a couple times, but couldn't be sure if on purpose, then shortly thereafter said 'all done' and went to her side table. I expressed my disappointment and started DIY as she didn't seem open to anything. She noticed and said I can give you oil though. She gave oil and stood by allowing otc touch and did light massage around, but not on boys or shaft. Finished and tipped. 4 as I only had 20's and 50's and felt like maybe she made an exception and didn't want to be rude by only tipping. 2 which is probably I would have tipped if legit and not a bad massage. Overall nice massage, but not worth going back to unless you're into DIY.
I would have left at 40 min and left no tip. Teller her maybe next time. Mood killer from the start. Whats there to tip for?
[QUOTE=NoFearToTry;4924641]This newerish place on 82 in the mini strip mall at 1120 is a place best to avoid, especially if she says her name is cindy.
Pay the house fee she takes me to a room, 50 for 30 min 60 for an hour. From the onset the massage was so weak I knew it was going to be a rush thing. Sprayed down with the alcohol, choke choke. So 10 to 15 minutes on my stomach she goes for the grab with her hand a few times and her fake moans. No hot towel to clean off the junk on my backside, goes right for the crazy upsell, no FS option, hits a 200 note for oral service, haha, not a chance, wants 100 for a HJ and get some tits in my face, not a chance, then 80 for a HJ, then 60 nope just finish this weak ass massage, she pops out a tit to entice me, nope not working I have played this game before. She says ok 40 for a HJ, no roam otc even as she places herself out of reach.
Wanted to rush me out in 40 , I'm like no I paid for an hour, she says its been an hour and comments my massage is really good, haha, uh no look the clock it was xxxx when I came in, does this annoying head massage and the only satisfaction I got was taking as much of that hour I could. She left the room way too many times I think she was cooking in the back.
So if you want to throw away a 100 bucks and get a lame ass weak shitty massage then cindy is your girl, there may be someone else here better but this girl aint it.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Pdx503;4927128]I would have left at 40 min and left no tip. Teller her maybe next time. Mood killer from the start. Whats there to tip for?
.[/QUOTE]She competed her handy work before the 40 minute mark and agreed to the 40 tip, overall not good.
Saw Lucy for an hour, house fee 70 . OK massage, I would rate it a 6. She wanted both her and I to wear masks, I complied, not exactly a turn on. My hands were allowed to roam, got to see some gumdrops after flip. I left mostly happy, but was turned off by complaining about tip. I was going to tip 40, but only had 32, and a 50, gave her the 50, which I thought was generous. Seems she felt entitled to 60 for lifting her bra during HE. I don't complain about how much I make, don't want to hear it from entitled others. Pretty lady, but got the impression nothing more would be available on a future visit, which is unlikely.
Went to Asian Flower Spa on Hart by the Plaid Pantry, got a late visit (close to closing), and got what I came for. At first I thought it was going to be legit, towel was put on, but then towel came off for the rest of the massage with some tease. We were the only ones in the building as it was late, so I think the key here is to go late because of how open it is. They do have curtains for doors, and from where I was, you can see right into the main area with massage chairs facing your room. Standard HE w / OTC. Didn't try anything else, but she seemed to enjoy it, so maybe more? Will try again another time.