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[QUOTE=Mugenn]Where can I find a set of guide rules that you guys try to follow by? I want to get started in the hobby but I need some guide lines. I've read the forum and spotted them here and there. Could anybody help the noob.[/QUOTE]
Pay attention to everything in the below post.
Then read everything on the Orlando Forum.
[url]http://usasexguide.info/forum/showt...line#post407648[/url]
Happy Hunting,
LM
the below post was cut and pasted. great advise for all from a veteran monger on the baltimore board.
"start by reading the forum. no, i’m not saying that to be a wise ass. it just makes good sense. if you read the forum, you will learn the geography of our monger hunting grounds, who the providers are, who gives good service and which girls to avoid, hot le spots and more. i can’t understand why so many of you don’t do this. if you were going into battle, wouldn’t you scout out the enemy and learn everything you could about them? well the same applies here. in our case, information represents power, safety and the path to a good time.
don’t monger with beer goggles on. alcohol and drugs impair your judgment, making it more likely that you will do something dumb, and wind up getting arrested, ripped off or worse.
secure your valuables. i don’t just mean your money, cell phone and digital camera. your most important valuable is your privacy. don’t leave anything laying around the car that has your home address on it, shows where you work or anything else that would allow a sw to follow you into your personal life. a married buddy of mine was blackmailed by a sw who saw his employee parking tag in the car, and showed up at his job with her boyfriend. it got so ugly, he had to change jobs.
protecting your identity also includes paying for the motel room with cash. use a fake name, address and vehicle plate number for the register. they never check.
don’t draw attention to yourself. i hit the stroll about 3 am one night this summer and saw a howdy doody white guy driving a z convertible. at that time of the night, there are only two reasons for a guy like that to be in the hood, and both are illegal. blend in as much as possible.
make sure all the lights on your vehicle are in working order. don’t drive down the street at 3 mph holding up traffic while you search for sw’s. don’t make crazy assed u-turns in an effort to beat your fellow mongers to the pick-up. come to a full stop at all stop signs. don’t come to a full stop in the middle of the road to pick up a girl with a long line of cars behind you. pull over for the pickup. in other words, follow all the rules of the road. don’t circle around endlessly. one of the nosy neighbors will notice you and inform le. don’t hit on civies and for god’s sake, leave the **** girls alone. don’t give le an excuse to pull you over.
the “pickup” is the single most dangerous aspect of our hobby. it is then when we are most exposed. during the pickup, your monger radar should be going full blast. be aware of everything around you. watch for cars coming from every direction. assume every other vehicle contains ule. keep an eye open for anyone approaching the driver side door. the last thing you want is some brother opening your door and rolling you right there. once she’s in the car, move off quickly.
never pick up a girl you have not seen before. no matter how hot she is, avoid her until you have seen her a couple of times, or until you have seen her picked up by another monger with no resulting sound and light show.
never discuss business through the open window of your car. decoy fle will never get into your vehicle. if she wants to talk business through the window, she is one of three things, undercover le, a sw setting you up for a rip-off, or a rookie sw. do you like those odds?
when you do pick up a sw for the first time, engage in casual chit chat until you have driven some distance from the pickup spot and are sure you are not being followed. make her initiate the transaction, especially the first mention of exchanging money for sex.
be alert on the drop-off as well. monger radar on full blast. be aware of your surroundings. the longer you sit there, the more at risk you are.
go to your spot, not hers. if she refuses, drop her off. you never know what will be waiting for you at her spot. one of our fellow mongers got ripped off recently at the sw’s home. don’t put yourself in a position of weakness. home court advantage is critical to your safety.
don’t overpay. one jack for bj, two jacks for fs. i never pay more than 3 jacks for anal, usually 2.5. tipping optional. if the girl is nice to you, be nice to her, but don’t go crazy with the tips. a bj from a sw is not worth 4 jacks. fs is not worth 5 jacks. if you are firm, more often than not they will settle.
never give them any money until you arrive at your destination. then, if they insist, give them the base fee only. hold back on the tip.
you are much better off lowballing on initial dates, then raising your tip on subsequent dates if they are worth it. you’ll get more out of them that way, rather than overpaying early on and then trying to average them down.
practice safe sex. if she is doing it bareback with you, she is doing it with everybody. i like bbbj’s as much as anybody. as a result, i have caught ngu three times in my years of mongering. it could have been much worse. cover your buddy for everything, but especially vaginal and anal sex. if you don’t carry condoms around, all the motels sell them.
guys, there are three girls on the wilkens stroll who are very popular. two are hiv+, the third has hep c. i know this for a fact. two of the girls told me themselves. i learned about the third from her mom. i’m sure these three are not the only ones out there with an std. don’t play russian roulette. you will lose.
get yourself checked up often. many of the nasties we expose ourselves to can be asymptomatic. i go to the caroline street free clinic every three months. takes about 1.5 hours to get tested. i usually get a full battery of tests. if you test positive for any of the routine stuff, meds are free. staff is non-judgmental. i always tell them what i do up front so they know what to look for. you can use a fake name and id info if you wish. just make sure to remember to use the same fake id when you return for results.
just in case you run out of luck and get pulled over, don’t panic. have a simple story line ready and stick to it no matter what. keep your hands on the top of the steering wheel where le can see them. don’t move unless you tell le first what you are going to do. that includes reaching into the glove compartment for your registration.
admit nothing, no matter what le says to you. be extra polite, this is not the time to be a wiseass. answer their questions in a calm voice. do not be confrontational. follow the officer’s instructions. do whatever they ask. but remember, stick to your story. the last time i got stopped, the officer told me he knew i was lying about what i was doing. i looked him right in the eye and politely said, “i’m sorry you feel that way officer, but i am telling you the truth.” he let me go. now if he were a prick, he might still have arrested me, but i gave him no reason to lose his temper.
i’ve been stopped three times with sw’s in my car. on one occasion, the girl was dirty. i’m sure my being polite and cooperative with the officer had something to do with my being let go while she was arrested. remember, we are a nuisance to le. they have bigger fish to fry.
if you do get arrested, stick to your story and admit to nothing. 90% of the time, you will be let go with no charges being filed. you will spend 24 hours in central booking and have some explaining to do to your so, but no charge, no record. if you get caught in a sting however, all bets are off.
never, ever, ever, ever, ever, under any circumstances, take a sw to cop. no matter how much she begs, just say no. she’ll tell you it will just take a few seconds. she’ll tell you the sex will be better. she may even offer you extras like anal. just say no. the results can be catastrophic to you, and impact your life until the day you die. if vice sees the girl get out of your car, cop, then hop back in your vehicle, you are dead. they will pull your ass over and arrest you. you will now be facing a felony drug charge instead of a soliciting misdemeanor. think the girl will vouch for you? good luck dickhead.
avoid emotional involvement. always remember that all we are to these girls is a source of money, food, cigs, and occasionally a clean, warm place to sleep. nothing wrong with having an occasional beer or bite to eat, but keep your relationship in perspective. it’s all about the drugs. treat the girls nicely, but keep a firewall between your life and hers. don't get involved, you will regret it.
mongering is like any hobby. there is a skill set that must be mastered. this is not a game for amateurs. the risk is high. the consequences of failure can be devastating. some of you newbies seem to feel we seniors do nothing but foster an evil culture on this board. the reality is that most seniors have successfully practiced this hobby for a long time. there is much you can learn from them that will help you enjoy this hobby in a safe and productive manner. you will find they are willing to help, as long as you show that you have done some homework. the other day, i reread all the 2005 posts on the baltimore board. it took me about three hours. searching on specific topics takes just a few seconds. are a few hours too much time to spend preparing for a hobby that has such downside risk? are the seniors asking too much of the newbies to make this investment before asking questions whose answers can usually be found in seconds by doing a search?
hope the above post helps you newbies be safe and enjoy the world’s oldest hobby. i’m sure my fellow seniors will chime in with some of their experiences. read, learn, be safe."
i couldn't have said it better myself,
lm
Great post and always refreshing to read.
Learn alot from all off this tips..
Thanks.
[QUOTE=The Lovemuscle]Hope the above post helps you newbies be safe and enjoy the world’s oldest hobby. I’m sure my fellow seniors will chime in with some of their experiences. Read, learn, be safe."
LM[/QUOTE]
also read the 22 Rules for Street Mongering posted on the front page here. Read them, know them, practice them, live them.
Nemo
Out on the Trail tonight. Drove north from the mall @ around 12:30 and very little action on the streets. Noticed a couple of bsw by the racetrack and some here and there. drove all of the way to Colonial with no luck. Little bit of rain and some Leo action by the Lingerie store or porno shop close to the tuscany.
On my way back found a wsw around did my loop and picked her up.
Drove to my favorite location and worked out the numbers with her.
Got a nice BBJWCIM for a Jackson.
She told me her name is Christi, maybe christy.
blond, 25,30 years old 110 punds nice B cups.
Her skills are great and she follows directions to the T.
Joe Black OUT.
Am thinking of bringing the cam next time and posting some pics.
I think the streetwalker forum needs a little spice.
Is a little slow lately.
Had an appt in S Orlando so I thought I'd drive back up on the trail.
There was activity starting with a rehead wsw near oakridge but concentrated s of the racetrac and around 24th. bsw with a sprinkling of wsw butterfaces and the pregnant wsw.
A couple of the bsw were much better than average but uncle Leo was hanging around 25th and up and down Nashville. This despite an apparent injured person in the bushes near the westbound entrance to I-4 that shut down the entrance and had 2 firetrucks calling attention to the issue.
So I decided to play it safe :( - but with the rain stopping - it looks like the trail is active
[QUOTE=Jason2009]Found a sw who set me up for a robbery last X-mas on Backpage today. Here's her link:
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/_rain_no_sun_means_friday_fun_23/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1445999[/url]
Picked up "Nikki" on OBT in front of the Dominoes and we agreed on a car date.
We left the area to find a parking spot behind some warehouses off of OBT. I noticed two guys in a car following behind us. When I noticed the two guys following us, I hit the gas and left the secluded spot. "Nikki" claimed it was a coincidence. We found another spot, where she did a grab and dash screaming obscenities at me for not paying enough. This girl will act sweet and set u up for a robbery w/ a smile on her face. Watch out for her--she walks OBT--recently in front of the Dominoes across from Burger King. Her homeboys are usually nearby in a park car.[/QUOTE]
Wow sucks she did that to you but could have been worse......Thanx for the report.....We all need to be safe out there.
[QUOTE=Jason2009]Found a sw who set me up for a robbery last X-mas on Backpage today. Here's her link:
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/_rain_no_sun_means_friday_fun_23/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1445999[/url]
Picked up "Nikki" on OBT in front of the Dominoes and we agreed on a car date.
We left the area to find a parking spot behind some warehouses off of OBT. I noticed two guys in a car following behind us. Thx god I noticed the car following us before I parked and turned off the ignition, I hit the gas and left the secluded spot. I think something worse would have happened if I had parked and turned off the ignition and had gotten blocked in by the two guys following us. "Nikki" claimed and reassured me it was a coincidence--after all this was our second date. We found another spot, where she did a grab and dash screaming obscenities at me for not paying enough and her homeboys will beat my ass if I retaliated. She will play a sweet girl and let u take ur clothes off first and then ask for more money and will give u an excuse such as her car need repairs or some other lie. This girl will act sweet and set u up for a robbery w/ a smile on her face. Watch out for her--she walks OBT--recently in front of the Dominoes across from Burger King. Her homeboys are usually nearby in a park car. Just a heads-up for other mongers.[/QUOTE]
If you'd like to do the world a service, you can start a Ripoff thread and include your post. I also recommend that you copy the providers phone number into your post. Then, whenever some potential hobbyist Googles the number, your warning post will show up. Eventually, the provider will learn whats going on and dump the phone but at least you tried.
Happy hunting,
LM
[QUOTE=The Lovemuscle]If you'd like to do the world a service, you can start a Ripoff thread and include your post. I also recommend that you copy the providers phone number into your post. Then, whenever some potential hobbyist Googles the number, your warning post will show up. Eventually, the provider will learn whats going on and dump the phone but at least you tried.
Happy hunting,
LM[/QUOTE]
That's a good idea, but I think the Raw Deal thread serves just as well. If there are too many threads, the information may get diluted and missed.
Careful out there guys...
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/cas/1189011739.html[/url]
[quote]Beware of Hot Spot!! - w4m - 22 (Fern Park)
Reply to:pers-edyuz-1189011739@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]
Date: 2009-05-26, 6:15AM EDT
A friend of mine works with S.C.S.D. and just to warn you gentlemen, they've steped up their patrols fom South st. and 17/92 to semoran/436 down to Fern Park blvd. to Fernwood Park Blvd, Oxford Rd to Meadowood Blvd. Seems to have become a hotspot of illegal activity. They are TAGGING vehicles! [/quote]
[QUOTE=Hairball]I was passing through yesterday around noon and remember VS having sightings here on 441. Made one loop and spotted this wsw obviously working with wave and eye contact. [/QUOTE]
Spotted 3 wsw and a bsw walking on east side of 441 today - see attached for some very poor pictures - need to figure out how to get better pics with my phone. Interestingly the one wsw I didn't get a picture of was the same girl I picked up in Casselberry near the Lowe's that is now being closely watched. Guess she moved on.
The tall blond girl looked younger (less than 25) and interesting, but 441 was too exposed for me to risk a pickup.
Kinda cloudy, but was very much worth the ride. Between 10-noon the Street Bunny's were hoppin. Lots to be seen and had, all shapes and sizes. Counted 15 from Lee to 528 - just before the rain came through.
One notable change for the girls that walked 38th 39th 40th - they have all moved south 2-4 blocks. I think this move is since the Crack House behind the Melody was busted, there are a few other C-Houses that the girls are all hanging at south- it has a lot to do with which one has AC to cool them off.
So as most know - I prefer skinny little WSW, but today I saw a hot little spinner BSW at the Sunoco (BTW - killer place to stop and grab a soda, most of the time the girls are in there BS'in with the clerk).
So I see this little spinner, make eye contact and pull into the back side and head into the store. She be-lines it into the store and give me a "Hi Sweetie". I grab a couple of waters and ask her if she needs a ride. She smiles and says sure.
We bolt, do the LE check and she begins giving me a story about rent and no cash, blah blah blah. So I tell her I am into her and want a FS Half/Half, she tells me .50, I tell her .30. She counters with .40, I with .35, but preface that I want a nice long BBBJ, then CFS (30mins). So we head to her sisters place down off Holden. She said no one will be there and we can get our freak on.
We get there, first floor apt, not a real nice place, but very clean, 1 bedroom, no hiding spots. We lock up the door, she grabs a sheet and tosses it on the sofa, and we begin. She gets naked and I can see some stretch marks and a bad crack pipe burn, very tiny titties, no ass, or extra meat at all. First was a very good BBBJ ( about nutted ), then moved to some seated R-CG, then standing with her leaning over face down, then on her ass with legs over my shoulders - 20mins and I nut.
We clean up and she asks if I can drop her off at the store, I agree, but she wants to smoke a rock before we leave the apt. I tell her that's kewl, just don't blow it on me. After 10min of her burning the pipe, we bolt (pipe left at apt). As we are getting in the car, her sister(kinda plump) and a clean cut white guy pull in and head to the apt. She tells me it has been a busy day for both.
I end up dropping her at Walgreens on the trail and 45th. Her name is Dee Dee and she was a 7/8 of 10. Would have liked to get a number, but no digits. I did offer her a phone with minutes for an extended visit next time, but she says she will only take cash or Visa gift cards.
She also said the LE is thick, something about cleaning up the city for the Magic. If they see you pulling over for a girl they will pull you over and rattle your cage hard - Be safe,
SW Surfer
The SW's were out and about all over OBT, it was like being in a candy store.
I saw Dee near the McD's/Melody and swooped in for a quick pick up. She saw me and headed right over and into the car without a gesture or word.
Once in I pulled off and headed away from the action and she began a nice HJ. We set the rate at .20 for a BBBJCIMWS. We got to a spot I like and she began a slow and sloppy BBBJ. I told her I wanted her to suck down every drop and I would give her a tip. After 10mins and no complaints I nutted while she DT be and down went every drop.
She popped up smiled and opened her mouth to show me no C inside. I paid her the .20 and headed to Mc'D's for some lunch. I ended up giving her 8 bucks worth of Mc'D's and my Surf bunny Number for a Sunday afternoon call.
She said there are alot of new guys on the trail and most don't know what the F**k they are doing. LE is picking them off for stupid u-turns and blatant pick-up's.
Be Safe,
SW Surfer Out!!!
Got a call from Dee mid afternoon Sunday. I headed to meet her at the Apt on Holden around 4pm for a 1 hour unrushed world tour. While in route I saw 6-7 SW's on the trail, it was amazing how the warm weather brings them out. Plus it's the last day of the month and the girls are waiting for their Gov Checks to arrive in the next 4-5 days.
Anyway, I get to the Apt, knock and she invites me in. There is a couple sitting on the couch leaning over a pile of rock getting ready to get high. The girl was a different girl then I saw there previously and the guy was so busy with his rock that he only looked up said "Hey" then back to his vice.
Dee and I went into the bed room and locked the door. She was as high as a kite and he must have just got done burning a big piece of rock. I asked her if there was going to be a problem, she said no, but I also asked if she was going to need to stop mid fuck for another hit. She said maybe, so I told her she needed to have everything in the bedroom so we don't play in/out. She smiled and said she already had everything in the room she need and showed me a pipe and two chucks of rock the size golf ball. My eyes about bugged out of my head - Pre-SW Surfer days I was a Coke-Cowboy....but no worries I had popped a Cialis and was ready to F for a good hour, not smoke for 12.
So we get down to it and begin our F-Fest, she began with a slow BBBJ that lasted 15mins. Then she stopped took a huge hit and came back to my Surf Board for more DTBBBJ.
We then moved to some serious Doggie, then mish, then legs over my shoulders mish. After 30mins of F'in she needed a small break, took another huge hit then came back and sucked me for 10mins. Then I nutted in her mouth while getting deep throated.
**** I love Cialis*****
So we both lay on the bed spent, she took a few hits, then noticed that I was still somewhat hard and asked what else I wanted. I then told her I wanted to F her ass. So she leans over and starts sucking me again. I get a round two hard on for the record books. She said she needed one more big hit first, so to the pipe she went, then CG greek began. At first nice and soft/slow, she was in charge and controlled the depth and speed. Then she asked me to F her super hard while she took a hit. So I roll her over to doggie greek, she hits the pipe, I pound her ass supper hard for 5mins till I nutted in her ass.She rolls over gets a bunch of rock dust on her finger and rubs it all over her ass hole. I just smiled and began getting dressed. She offered to let me stay and smoke, but I had other things to do.
So our deal was 1 hour for a phone and minutes. I give her the pre-pay phone that was loaded with 1000minutes (.35 bucks on sale) and ask her if she needs anything else. She said no the phone and minutes were enough.
She did want to know when I would be able to see her again. I told her sometime end of the week. I also asked if I can give out the number to a few friends that will treat her right, she says she thinks that would be ok.
So here is the funny thing. I give her the phone so I(we) have a way to contact her. 2 hours later, I get a call from the phone (I put my sw # in the contacts list), some guys giving me shit and asking who I am. He tells me Dee is his B*tch and she don't need anyone giving her nothin but cash so she can by his sh*t. Plus he wanted to know who's dope she was smokin and where I got it from....I told him I was just a John and nothing more. He said the phone is now his and hung up.
I called the phone service company, told them it was stolen and I needed the account frozen and minutes transferred to my other number...30 seconds later I had 985mins added to my SW Surf phone.
What a crazy Sunday,
Be safe,
SW Surfer Out!!!!
Just got back from the Trail. Is hot out there tonight, Leo all over....
Running tags and stoping everyone they see drive around more than once..
Will post the rest later..
Need to get some sleep.
Carefull out there fools...
Joe.