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		So I've been mongering around for a while now & come across some places. Was seeing Lucy but then I started noticing what everyone was saying she was good at first good bbj blower me twice LOL raw I would never but I fucked up on hitting raw the other chick with the tight cat glasses smh. Well after that I found 2 new places actually on 5 xst ave) not bad didn't get to see all the girls but I got "July" ooh man she can blow mend didn't rush me at all! I'm going to hit the other place later today says they have a Colombian for * I'll try and give feed back!
P.S. Someone help me get get a cheap smash I went to market place but they close early anyone know of any like that or like 98 mont around that $$ range please inbox! Safe mongering.
	 
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Stunning goddess!
	
	
		Hello guys, going to try this again. Next wk a stunning beauty will be visiting NYC for a couple of days. Her name is at Nora Bordeleau that's her twitter handle, you'll find all the info needed there. She also has an ad at usaadultclassifieds. Nl which is part of this website. You'll find her in the Manhattan section of the website. Guys I can't stress this enough, go see her if your wiling and able to cough up the $$ I know some guys on here like the $40-$80-$160 type but I'm willing to bet there's gents out there that are willing to pay for a great experience with a goddess. I've been with her too many times to count so I know what I speak of. I'm not one to go into detail about the services she provides because you'll find those on her website. Highly recommend her and hope some of you gent have the pleasure of meeting such a stunning woman.
	 
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		[QUOTE=HinesKarlton;4465839]I've learned to stop seeing those chicks that ask work verification, drivers license, birth certificate, 4-5 references, recent picture, your blood type, etc.
I'm not applying for a job and this isn't an interview.
Most of the upscale girls who are young and stunning ask for all that.
I get it. They're afraid of getting robbed raped. Or even worse murdered.
Always pay in cash. Remember you are paying for them to leave you alone and go away.
Paying with plastic. Debit or credit. Get your info caught in a sting and exposed.[/QUOTE]More than 20 or so years ago, it was ok to use plastic if you were dealing with a reputable agency. I did it all the time. Even if they got busted, the cops wouldn't be able to do anything because they could never prove that you hadn't just hired a "legal" escort. LE generally wasn't smart enough or sophisticated enough to use the Internet to find evidence they could use against you, etc. It was very convenient, especially when booking porn stars because I didn't want to travel with huge amounts of cash. And I know what I'm talking about because at least 3 agencies I used back then got busted at one time or another and I got phone calls from the cops. It was trivially easy to just say "I hired a companion for the evening to go to dinner and dancing with because I was traveling alone for work. " They couldn't do shit and dropped it.
These days, when dealing with the agencies that book the more expensive escorts, like the agencies that handle porn stars, it's best to use something like bitcoin if you don't want to carry around huge wads of cash. For all other purposes, use cash.
As for giving out info like real name, work information, etc. Don't do it. Just don't. It's another one of my "firm" rules along with never giving a deposit. There's really no upside for you and plenty of downsides. Sure, it's easier to get robbed of your cash but that sure beats hell out of trying to explain to cops who can find the girl's website in a second why you were hiring a prostitute, or explaining to your credit card company, or your spouse, or whatever.
	 
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		[QUOTE=Edo123;4462968]She is in Spain and usually comes back around late Sept or Nov.[/QUOTE]It has been awhile, has s Lana added Greek to the menu yet?
	 
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		[QUOTE=MrFrench;4466522]More than 20 or so years ago, it was ok to use plastic if you were dealing with a reputable agency. I did it all the time. Even if they got busted, the cops wouldn't be able to do anything because they could never prove that you hadn't just hired a "legal" escort. LE generally wasn't smart enough or sophisticated enough to use the Internet to find evidence they could use against you, etc. It was very convenient, especially when booking porn stars because I didn't want to travel with huge amo upunts of cash. And I know what I'm talking about because at least 3 agencies I used back then got busted at one time or another and I got phone calls from the cops. It was trivially easy to just say "I hired a companion for the evening to go to dinner and dancing with because I was traveling alone for work. " They couldn't do shit and dropped it.
These days, when dealing with the agencies that book the more expensive escorts, like the agencies that handle porn stars, it's best to use something like bitcoin if you don't want to carry around huge wads of cash. For all other purposes, use cash.
As for giving out info like real name, work information, etc. Don't do it. Just don't. It's another one of my "firm" rules along with never giving a deposit. There's really no upside for you and plenty of downsides. Sure, it's easier to get robbed of your cash but that sure beats hell out of trying to explain to cops who can find the girl's website in a second why you were hiring a prostitute, or explaining to your credit card company, or your spouse, or whatever.[/QUOTE]NEVER NEVER EVER! Give a deposit in advance. As an ex-banker and aspiring law school student once you make an agreement unconvey consideration (something of material value I. E. Money) you have a contract. Which LE can use this as hard evidence. The girls are doing this to limit the risk but on the other hand you are taking the same risk. How do you know the provider is really the provider until you show up, could be a sting operation. If you prefer to use plastic try a prepaid Visa or American Express card that you can get at any Walgreens or CVS or rite aid store. You can actually even use an alias as you have to purchase these with cash and then register them online so they would not be attached to you or anything that can I'd you. I have a Bitcoin account but I have not used cryptocurrency in any transactions yet only in trading. I used to belong to several swingers clubs in the area (this was basically a front for brothel). The organizers promoted as a swingers party in reality it's just a sex party in which they hire girls pay them a flat rate and guys come in and have sex with them anywhere from 2 to 6 hours is the length of a time for an event. One of the better ones I belong to started to require real I'd real information. You have no idea of who has access to this information worst yet in their site gets hacked by law enforcement or others you are then dealing with the possibility of identity theft never worth it. It's cheaper to lose the cash because once it's gone it's DONE! Have your identity stolen takes years and thousands of dollars to correct.
	 
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Sara a / s
	
	
		I went on down to a. S today and saw sara. Basic a. S deal. BBBJ and covered mish. She gave a great handjob that almost made me blow early. Everything else was o. K nothing special. Prolly see someone else next time.
	 
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Cheap guy advice needed
	
	
		I typically frequent providers who offer quick stay services at 60-80 max. I tend to seek out and "befriend" providers with good attitudes who seem to enjoy what little benefit comes with their job (money, dick, and conversation. In that order with a obviously money being heavily weighted).
For that reason I've become accustomed to good service on the cheap side.
This was easy when I lived in a Sunset Park brownstone. It was in a cheap enough area where providers did not expect me to be flush with cash. On the other hand I a nice, private bachelor pad with easy access to AMPs, cheap outcall girls (mostly Hispanic).
My situation has changes a bit and I now live with my GF in a Manhattan doorman building. I don't expect to host anyone moving forward but I am also still cheap, LOL. I'd prefer cheap local incalls. Thick girls a plus- rather than get a hotel EVERYTIME.
Does anyone have any advice? Any other cheap manhattanites out here pinching pennies. Feel free to PM me. I'm down to share info, girls, and hopefully the knowlegde share can be mutually beneficial.
As a show of good faith. I highly suggest the A / LMP below. They are definitely out of my usual budget but they always have top notch providers of both Asian and Hispanic descent.
(347) 885-8886 - Galaxy Spa on 28th & Park Ave South, 80 house & typically 140-160 tip.
(yes I am aware this info should be in massage parlours but it's just a gold nuggest in my request post).
At some point I also intend to try out the mamasan who is older but has a nice body and gave me a table shower once. Will add a report to the MP section when that happens.
	 
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		[QUOTE=DennyPas;4472212]I typically frequent providers who offer quick stay services at 60-80 max. I tend to seek out and "befriend" providers with good attitudes who seem to enjoy what little benefit comes with their job (money, dick, and conversation. In that order with a obviously money being heavily weighted).
For that reason I've become accustomed to good service on the cheap side.
This was easy when I lived in a Sunset Park brownstone. It was in a cheap enough area where providers did not expect me to be flush with cash. On the other hand I a nice, private bachelor pad with easy access to AMPs, cheap outcall girls (mostly Hispanic).
My situation has changes a bit and I now live with my GF in a Manhattan doorman building. I don't expect to host anyone moving forward but I am also still cheap, LOL. I'd prefer cheap local incalls. Thick girls a plus- rather than get a hotel EVERYTIME.
Does anyone have any advice? Any other cheap manhattanites out here pinching pennies. Feel free to PM me. I'm down to share info, girls, and hopefully the knowlegde share can be mutually beneficial.
As a show of good faith. I highly suggest the A / LMP below. They are definitely out of my usual budget but they always have top notch providers of both Asian and Hispanic descent..[/QUOTE]I've had this issue as well. I'm back in BK again so I have the cheaper options available. In the city the only deals you will find will be a worn out $100 qv with one of the times square listcrawler posters or the occasional desperate in the LES. You should probably go to Queens to the Doll House. I haven't been but you can read about it on the queens page.
	 
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		[QUOTE=BigDaddyBBJ;4472439]I've had this issue as well. I'm back in BK again so I have the cheaper options available. In the city the only deals you will find will be a worn out $100 qv with one of the times square listcrawler posters or the occasional desperate in the LES. You should probably go to Queens to the Doll House. I haven't been but you can read about it on the queens page.[/QUOTE]Damn, sad to hear that manhattan is really a rich mans game haha. I've bargained the penn hotel latinas down to 50/ ss before so I'll probably see them. I've only been to DH once (in jamaica) and it didn't go well. The review should be in my history.
I honestly can't chance the commute if I'm going to be rushed (I got hh last time). The girls were smokeshows though.
Thanks for the PMs guys. Keep them coming. I'm also a master at TOFTT so if you have a cheap girl you're afraid to chance on I'll add her to my list and report back (in return I only ask that why'all share a solid provider along with each request).
	 
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Which Agency uses BTC?
	
	
		[QUOTE=MrFrench;4466522]
These days, when dealing with the agencies that book the more expensive escorts, like the agencies that handle porn stars, it's best to use something like bitcoin if you don't want to carry around huge wads of cash. For all other purposes, use cash.
[/QUOTE]Which porn star agency uses BTC? I haven't been given that option with PP. In the case of AIA, if they ever ask you for a deposit, it's because the individual girl requires one, not AIA. And again, BTC was never an option. TLC is pretty much blacklisted since it was mentioned in the news article connecting it with LA Direct models and the lawsuit. And they're rates were always higher than PP and AIA anyways.
If I could use BTC for porn star agencies I would, but it doesn't seem like that's an option.
	 
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So
	
	
		I guess it's time I review the Colombian on 50's in the west side. Went late yesterday after I smoked a blunt called when I was downstairs. Would say decent face passable her body was a 7/10 she's very nice exchanged words and went to it her BJ was greattt she didn't let me DATY but maybe because it was the first time she seen me ooh well. Anyway put the hat on we went on top about 5 minutes turned her went mish almost came so I told her doggie. Went ham and busted overall would repeat! Wish it was a bit on my cash side but don't mind haha.
Anyone know of cheap places? We can trade 🙄 preferably fast house you know.
Safe mongering fellas!
	 
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		[QUOTE=WildWalleye;4464923]+100.
Get a burner (I have probably had 20). Set up whatsap and groove and a couple other free text and talk programs (will work on wi-fi if you don't keep SIM active).
Never let your monger life touch your real life.
When I go to meet someone, I have enough cash for the encounter (and a tip if extra good), my burner and maybe my car keys. I don't carry my ID, no business cards, no dinner receipts, nothing. I remove the dry cleaner labels from my shirts (or pick a shirt that doesn't have my name on it).
I am happy to pay in cash, in person. End of story.
I love those "Work verification" girls. "Gee, let me know your name, where you work and your work phone number. " Ummm, no. If you want to verify me, might I suggest the peep hole in the hotel door?
Any chica not willing to work within my parameters gets passed by. I never discuss mongering with my buddies. 
I have been at this a while and sticking to my rules works.[/QUOTE]Just wondering what do you do if the provider lives in an apt or place the requires I'd to get in? Do you or others not go there?
	 
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		[QUOTE=BoobyHunter;4474419]Which porn star agency uses BTC? I haven't been given that option with PP. In the case of AIA, if they ever ask you for a deposit, it's because the individual girl requires one, not AIA. And again, BTC was never an option. TLC is pretty much blacklisted since it was mentioned in the news article connecting it with LA Direct models and the lawsuit. And they're rates were always higher than PP and AIA anyways.
If I could use BTC for porn star agencies I would, but it doesn't seem like that's an option.[/QUOTE]I think TLC still accepts bitcoin but I'm not sure. I don't recall as I was only given the option once but I don't remember the agency. I usually pay cash. Bitcoin is a good option if you're traveling and planning to do a whole lot of business which I haven't done in a few years.
As for rates, their rates, IME, have been lower than PP and AIA generally. Here's how the rates work: just like deposits, the girls set the rates. That is, they decide how much they want to get from each date. The agency then tacks on additional fees which can include: travel expenses, hotel expenses, their profit, etc. Usually amounting to anywhere from $200 to $500. Lourdes, PM and PP were always the highest while TLC and AIA tended to be the lowest. Pam Peaks tended to fall somewhere in the middle.
As for being blacklisted. By who? They are still active, and they still have lots of girls. In fact, there are a whole slew of them in NYC this month and they have girls touring here about every 2-3 months.
	 
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		[QUOTE=AbuSaho;4474619]Just wondering what do you do if the provider lives in an apt or place the requires I'd to get in? Do you or others not go there?[/QUOTE]Honestly if you're not a celebrity, a current or future c-suite level exec / politician there is not too much to worry about. In the case of a sting operation, the cops wouldn't employ an I'd check because they know mongers are skittish and they'd want to put up as few barriers to entry before the exchange of cash for services. In a sting the provider will tell you she offers a full hour for 50, ask you to bring weed, or to pick her up so that they can seize drug and your car and hope that they can stack charges. Stings are rare and typically obvious to the experiences monger.
In reality, the worst case scenario is you piss off the provider and she asks the doorman for your name and address to black mail you. That really only happens if you're an asshole or if your and easy mark (which brings me back to my first sentence).
Conclusion: If you're not a blackmail target you should be fine.
	 
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		[QUOTE=MrFrench;4474922]I think TLC still accepts bitcoin but I'm not sure. I don't recall as I was only given the option once but I don't remember the agency. I usually pay cash. Bitcoin is a good option if you're traveling and planning to do a whole lot of business which I haven't done in a few years.
As for rates, their rates, IME, have been lower than PP and AIA generally. Here's how the rates work: just like deposits, the girls set the rates. That is, they decide how much they want to get from each date. The agency then tacks on additional fees which can include: travel expenses, hotel expenses, their profit, etc. Usually amounting to anywhere from $200 to $500. Lourdes, PM and PP were always the highest while TLC and AIA tended to be the lowest. Pam Peaks tended to fall somewhere in the middle.
As for being blacklisted. By who? They are still active, and they still have lots of girls. In fact, there are a whole slew of them in NYC this month and they have girls touring here about every 2-3 months.[/QUOTE]So Lourdes has definitely been the most expensive. If you know the agency's back story, it kind of makes sense. From what I've seen by comparison, PP and AIA have always been the lowest to me. I don't even bother with TLC anymore since communication with Adonia is horrible. And her list of girls are pretty much on par with all the other agencies. Sure, some girls are exclusive to a particular agency (especially Lourdes), but overall, it's generally the same girls. As for agency fees, it's mainly just booking. Hotel / travel / etc is all out of pocket for the girl. Not sure why the agency would cover that.
From what I've heard through the grapevine, girls are trying to avoid using TLC because of the LA Times story. Even though there was a retraction from the journalist who wrote the article stating that LA Direct was not involved with TLC, the damage had been done. There are agency owners (who are pornstars) that are booked on other agency sites all the time. There's nothing special about it. All the agencies have the same girls traveling. It's not because the agency wants them to, but it's because the girls want to. Every week there are girls traveling through. I wish they would visit DC more often, but I get it that NY is the better option.
As for this month, there's going to be a ton of girls in NY / NJ at the end of October for Exxxotica. I've seen a preliminary list so far and no one was really caught my eye. Hopefully there will be someone there I can scratch off the bucket list.