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I use the Burner app and create and delete numbers as I need to.

I've tried the free text now app but didn't like that as much too many ads pop up. Burner is a few bucks a month for a line.

Good luck.



[QUOTE=AMonger1;5668614]So I think part of the reason why I got banned last time with a new account was because I was still sending out the same google voice number I was using before. Still want to keep the one I got because of contacts on there tho. Is there another free number app that you guys use? Will be planning on creating a new account on the new phone I bought just to be safe. Also SA refunded me my last subscription so that was cool I guess. But going to buy another gift card to use so that its fresh in case they got that info too.

Thankfully I got three sbs rn 250-300 range keeping me busy. However I think I'm getting addicted to this hobby and the chase for something new and fresh. Three is already getting hard to manage. Do you guys ever tell your sbs that you have other sbs? When they ask if I ever had an arrangement or a current ongoing one I always just say a couple and no longer ongoing. Feel that if I say a lot and still ongoing they are less likely to go BBFS. Also how do you guys manage multiple sbs? Just keep them on rotation? Should I just tell them once a month or two then? LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CreamFire;5668639]I don't have much to share. But if anyone is interested.

Met for m&g. Wanted 500 ppm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/efa67120-2220-45f7-b71c-08f4e2d408f8[/URL]

Met before but nothing materialized.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a987e7b4-aa6b-4455-9ff6-eec4d59f9ee6

Haven't met but seems pro. 300. Open to anything supposedly.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/2cd319c4-39c2-4340-8d41-2ac24a1e6d93[/URL]

Another that seems pro but 1k ppm

https://members.seeking.com/member/36d844c6-48c0-4ba3-99b5-aaa7349caf05[/QUOTE]I never knew there was so much difference in price in the non pro market. You usually only see that difference in the pro market, although the price ranges are much lower. Makes you wonder if you are a market participant and just did not realize you are contributing to a nash equilibrium.

[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5669535]I never knew there was so much difference in price in the non pro market. You usually only see that difference in the pro market, although the price ranges are much lower. Makes you wonder if you are a market participant and just did not realize you are contributing to a nash equilibrium.[/QUOTE]There are two main price points in the NP market. The very low because they don't know any better, are 18-20, got started out of desperation or have some very specific kink/desire that outweighs the compensation amount they would normally ask from a MOR vanilla guy. And then the very high from watching too many tiktok videos of girls flying here and there and shopping on rodeo dr.

It's always best (at least for me) to stick to the game plan and offer a $ a date. I know at $$ I would be overwhelmed. So I will stick to my strategy because it's what works best for me. YMMV. Your strategy may vary. Do what works best for you.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5670071]There are two main price points in the NP market. The very low because they don't know any better, are 18-20, got started out of desperation or have some very specific kink/desire that outweighs the compensation amount they would normally ask from a MOR vanilla guy. And then the very high from watching too many tiktok videos of girls flying here and there and shopping on rodeo dr.

It's always best (at least for me) to stick to the game plan and offer a $ a date. I know at $$ I would be overwhelmed. So I will stick to my strategy because it's what works best for me. YMMV. Your strategy may vary. Do what works best for you.[/QUOTE]I imagine any non pro girl who will fuck for 100 must be really fit and in shape from jogging.

[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5669535]I never knew there was so much difference in price in the non pro market. You usually only see that difference in the pro market, although the price ranges are much lower. Makes you wonder if you are a market participant and just did not realize you are contributing to a nash equilibrium.[/QUOTE]Non pros have no set "price," as you said, they are not professionals. While there are hustlers and scammer rings to look out for, most girls on SA are just looking for companionship and some financial help on the side. I've hooked up with many girls for absolutely nothing, not even a beer or slice of pizza. Others do want old fashioned courtship: dinner and dates, etc.

It's not like Hx where a handful of crews supply for a fixed number of regulars, or the streetwalkers who adjust pricing in real time based on the dozens of offers they get every day.

Personally I prefer using some charm and smashing a hot girl for a reasonable allowance and no time limits, versus spending 50 bucks in a rush job with a skid row meth head who will get you sick or rob you.

[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5670099]I imagine any non pro girl who will fuck for 100 must be really fit and in shape from jogging.[/QUOTE]Actually the body's on most of these girls are great. No sacrificing there. Looks sometimes great sometimes average. Admittedly I only date AA so that helps in a variety of ways. A lot of them did sports in H. S. and are also just naturally inclined to having better body's due to better genes than your average white girl. And generally speaking will take about half or less than a comparable girl from another race. Also due to their age are usually still living with family and don't have a car. So their expenses are lower overall to begin with.

Anyone who has followed my posts over the years, like back when I used to post pictures (now mostly all taken down) knows that I really do get a lot of spinners.

[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5670250]Non pros have no set "price," as you said, they are not professionals. While there are hustlers and scammer rings to look out for, most girls on SA are just looking for companionship and some financial help on the side. I've hooked up with many girls for absolutely nothing, not even a beer or slice of pizza. Others do want old fashioned courtship: dinner and dates, etc.

It's not like Hx where a handful of crews supply for a fixed number of regulars, or the streetwalkers who adjust pricing in real time based on the dozens of offers they get every day.

Personally I prefer using some charm and smashing a hot girl for a reasonable allowance and no time limits, versus spending 50 bucks in a rush job with a skid row meth head who will get you sick or rob you.[/QUOTE]Funny, I must have missed the stories about the nonpros with pussies so moist you can skate on them doing mongers for a slice of pizza or less.

My point was that you all are in a market, and refuse to admit it. Your market seems to get to pareto optimality at a much higher price than the pro market. Paying a gal to meet her at a kroger while her mom waits in the car is not my idea of a situation that I want to be a part of. In my mind, the girl can make a pareto improvement by putting an ad on a hooker site and the monger can pay her without all the sheer nonsense.

[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5671610]Funny, I must have missed the stories about the nonpros with pussies so moist you can skate on them doing mongers for a slice of pizza or less.

My point was that you all are in a market, and refuse to admit it. Your market seems to get to pareto optimality at a much higher price than the pro market. Paying a gal to meet her at a kroger while her mom waits in the car is not my idea of a situation that I want to be a part of. In my mind, the girl can make a pareto improvement by putting an ad on a hooker site and the monger can pay her without all the sheer nonsense.[/QUOTE]And so we have finally gotten to the end of it. You would spend countless hours at the temple of doom (and other dens of hand jobbery) overpaying for old ladies, but don't see the correlation to that and going to an M&G in a parking lot to find some fresh meat. The optimal result of which is when you find a real winner, you can bang her endlessly for a $ an hour (or more depending on your budget) or twice a day, or spend days at a time with them, and for months or even a couple of years. Low mileage gals that give the extra fun of the GF experience (real or imagined) that I see guys routinely paying 5 bills a pop for.

I am not even sure (and am not interested in) the optimal result of any other endeavors to find pussy. So each to his own. I never post on escort threads, AMP threads, streetwalker threads, strip club threads, agency threads, etc. I am not sure why you bother to post on a sugar thread. But please feel free to do so as we do not discriminate based on any mongers hunting tactics or their opinions of others tactics. As far as being in a market we are all very aware of that. But part of the fun is the occasional freebie that happens to anyone that partakes regularly in this venue. But no one goes into it with that being the goal (with the one exception of this guy that used to post years ago on the richmond thread) and the scammers that never post here that rob every sugar newbie they can find.

But to semi (I think) agree with part of what you are saying. There is a diminishing return, So in my case I keep the payouts so low that no matter the outcome I can never really feel cheated in any sexual encounter. And like all mongers, when I do... I just move on.

Is it just me or SA has gotten better this month? Haven't run into many scammers lately and I had quite a few willing to meet that I can't keep up with my schedule. Even had to say no I cannot meet them when they initiated to meet. Maybe it was just this week b / c it was girls I messaged last week and I had a barrage of them messaging me at the same time. Just a temporary holiday run and back to normal later I'm assuming?

[QUOTE=CreamFire;5672511]Is it just me or SA has gotten better this month? Haven't run into many scammers lately and I had quite a few willing to meet that I can't keep up with my schedule. Even had to say no I cannot meet them when they initiated to meet. Maybe it was just this week b / c it was girls I messaged last week and I had a barrage of them messaging me at the same time. Just a temporary holiday run and back to normal later I'm assuming?[/QUOTE]I've also been getting excellent results. Many hot girls are running into holiday expenses and are more eager to meet.

[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5673378]I've also been getting excellent results. Many hot girls are running into holiday expenses and are more eager to meet.[/QUOTE]Same here. Definitely more. Did an M&G with a so called non-existant NP today. Full time student and pt model. Met her at her work and talked for about a half hour in the car. Went pretty well, lots of smiles but no real touching or kissing. Says she has never had good sex but has only been with guys her own age. Lives in the dorm. Hope to pick her up from work tonite. Doesn't drive, not focused on the sugar, maybe pay to get her nails done if she incentives me to do so. Or she could just take the allowance we agreed to. The usual $

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5674622]Same here. Definitely more. Did an M&G with a so called non-existant NP today. Full time student and pt model. Met her at her work and talked for about a half hour in the car. Went pretty well, lots of smiles but no real touching or kissing. Says she has never had good sex but has only been with guys her own age. Lives in the dorm. Hope to pick her up from work tonite. Doesn't drive, not focused on the sugar, maybe pay to get her nails done if she incentives me to do so. Or she could just take the allowance we agreed to. The usual $[/QUOTE]Well done.

Suddenly seeking is saying I am logging in from a different device, (I'm not) and needs verification. When I give them my email address attached to the account it never shows up. I tried contacting them but I doubt they ever respond. Any thoughts?

L.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;5677765]Suddenly seeking is saying I am logging in from a different device, (I'm not) and needs verification. When I give them my email address attached to the account it never shows up. I tried contacting them but I doubt they ever respond. Any thoughts?

L.[/QUOTE]You should use Firefox or safari or opera. Chrome and edge have a way of bouncing off your IP address from device to device if you are logged in to any of their cookie enabling.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;5677765]Suddenly seeking is saying I am logging in from a different device, (I'm not) and needs verification. When I give them my email address attached to the account it never shows up. I tried contacting them but I doubt they ever respond. Any thoughts?

L.[/QUOTE]Every time I login it asks to request a security code verification and emails your account. Sometimes you have to do it twice.

I recommend you be patient and send an email to support. Their response time can be a week or more, seems that they are.

Eager to take our high subscription fees but have a skeleton crew for customer service issues. Good luck.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;5680803]Every time I login it asks to request a security code verification and emails your account. Sometimes you have to do it twice.

I recommend you be patient and send an email to support. Their response time can be a week or more, seems that they are.

Eager to take our high subscription fees but have a skeleton crew for customer service issues. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks, yeah, I have heard nothing from support. I have tried getting it to send a verification code but nothing is showing up. I will take you advice and wait a week.

L.

[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5680745]You should use Firefox or safari or opera. Chrome and edge have a way of bouncing off your IP address from device to device if you are logged in to any of their cookie enabling.[/QUOTE]Firefox has a "containers" function that's very useful as well.

Recently ran into this Asian girl who looked decent in her photos on SA. Couldn't really see her face but body seemed decent, so I messaged and got a response. Chatted a little, spoke on the phone and during our conversation said she got out of a 2 year relationship. Also mentioned that she gives the meanest head (I know every woman says this). So I said sure why not and we decided to meet in the evening.

We met up, got coffee and spoke in the car for about 15 minutes before she goes after it. She absolutely devours it and with no gag reflex which she confirmed. This girl has some skill, not the prettiest or even avg in the face by most people standards but what she did with that mouth is worth it. She's not on the bigger side, she's definitely avg size probably closer to skinnier.

Might hook up some people in the DM with her info, then probably drop the link here after 3 weeks once I move on.

[QUOTE=Dsteezy;5682527]Recently ran into this Asian girl who looked decent in her photos on SA. Couldn't really see her face but body seemed decent, so I messaged and got a response. Chatted a little, spoke on the phone and during our conversation said she got out of a 2 year relationship. Also mentioned that she gives the meanest head (I know every woman says this). So I said sure why not and we decided to meet in the evening.

We met up, got coffee and spoke in the car for about 15 minutes before she goes after it. She absolutely devours it and with no gag reflex which she confirmed. This girl has some skill, not the prettiest or even avg in the face by most people standards but what she did with that mouth is worth it. She's not on the bigger side, she's definitely avg size probably closer to skinnier.

Might hook up some people in the DM with her info, then probably drop the link here after 3 weeks once I move on.[/QUOTE]Could you DM me the info?

[QUOTE=Dsteezy;5682527]Recently ran into this Asian girl who looked decent in her photos on SA. Couldn't really see her face but body seemed decent, so I messaged and got a response. Chatted a little, spoke on the phone and during our conversation said she got out of a 2 year relationship. Also mentioned that she gives the meanest head (I know every woman says this). So I said sure why not and we decided to meet in the evening.

We met up, got coffee and spoke in the car for about 15 minutes before she goes after it. She absolutely devours it and with no gag reflex which she confirmed. This girl has some skill, not the prettiest or even avg in the face by most people standards but what she did with that mouth is worth it. She's not on the bigger side, she's definitely avg size probably closer to skinnier.

Might hook up some people in the DM with her info, then probably drop the link here after 3 weeks once I move on.[/QUOTE]I think we saw the same girl. DM me as your inbox is full.

Visiting Torrance for a week over Christmas and don't have a lot of time for trial and error and I would appreciate sugar baby references for BBBJCIM and or bbbfs I have a car and can travel. Thanks for your assistance PM is fine.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5652120]I am noticing a certain type of fake profile these days. A gorgeous 30's woman, happy to engage in convo on the site. I have even gotten some of them off the site to text or messaging apps (Telegram). They get into big discussions about cryptocurrency, how they're making millions, etc. However, sometimes they suddenly show up on the site with a totally different location, even in another country. I don't really think they are traveling, I'd wager they are using a VPN into the country they are alleging to be from. Whether that is outside the US or inside it is a question. This can be very deceptive and obviously a bit of a time-waster. IDK what the game is, I haven't had any of them try to get me to Venmo them $ or get me to buy pix.

Oh, yeah. Weird - they are often asking me if I have eaten a meal. Lunch, dinner. WTF?[/QUOTE]They message you, make you feel comfortable with them and then ask you to go to Whats App because they are messaging from a foreign country and they want to introduce you to crypto currancy investing, going to what's app is a RED FLAG they are trying to get into your bank account One guy lost 300,000.

Their pictures are gorgeous I have blocked 9 of them after wasting my time messaging back and forth.

Hows your family, what did you have for dinner, do you have any children, then I can help you with investing,My uncle taught me and I have been very successful.

Pure Bullshit. BE CAREFUL.

CM.

Someone mentioned being with her a while back but I forget the damage.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d2f365d3-1e97-4c70-bca6-ae43b2ca22f9[/URL]

[QUOTE=LargeEss;5684050]Someone mentioned being with her a while back but I forget the damage.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d2f365d3-1e97-4c70-bca6-ae43b2ca22f9[/URL][/QUOTE]I messaged her couple months ago, she wanted 600 because she owed light bill I'm like damn you owe that much in electricity you better start turning off those lights.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7547adc3-5854-448b-9f9e-e404da324567[/URL]

Wants 1 k a month, hard pass.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7d9baa79-550f-4862-9ced-655bea3da291[/URL]

Wants 600 to only be friends, told her I already got a bunch of dumbass friends.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5e14e2ae-ea20-4830-812d-11acbf8ec638[/URL]

500 ppm, she sent me bunch of pictures after I started texting her thought it was kinda suspect, didn't continue messaging.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5682505]Firefox has a "containers" function that's very useful as well.[/QUOTE]I only use firefox for seeking.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;5684050]Someone mentioned being with her a while back but I forget the damage.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d2f365d3-1e97-4c70-bca6-ae43b2ca22f9[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow! She's hot! I'll let you know how it goes if we do meet up.

[QUOTE=CreamFire;5685364]Wow! She's hot! I'll let you know how it goes if we do meet up.[/QUOTE]She is nice. Still no real luck on my side. Been doing a lot of chattting. Plenty of UTR's and pros for a $ or $$ for the real hotties. Still looking for a unicorn I can hang out with and not just fuck and then she leaves. When I had my live ins, I was more than happy if they just left as I was never really alone for years. But no more live ins so I need more of a GF type girl. Usually I just go for the AA girls but been talking to more than a few latinas. White or asian is really not worth the effort in my budget.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5688710]She is nice. Still no real luck on my side. Been doing a lot of chattting. Plenty of UTR's and pros for a $ or $$ for the real hotties. Still looking for a unicorn I can hang out with and not just fuck and then she leaves. When I had my live ins, I was more than happy if they just left as I was never really alone for years. But no more live ins so I need more of a GF type girl. Usually I just go for the AA girls but been talking to more than a few latinas. White or asian is really not worth the effort in my budget.[/QUOTE]She said $800.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;5689310]She said $800.[/QUOTE]I knew is was a crazy amount. She probably gets enough to be worth it for her.

[QUOTE=DavidTheSancho;5595923]Anyone ever have a sb that was married or had a boyfriend? Through some sleuthing I noticed a POT I want to meet is married. She did mention being from Utah so that kinda makes sense in a backwards way. Anyway I'm just thinking it could make things potentially messy. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]I saw one that was married many years ago, but only once. Would not do it again since you don't know if hubby is crazy or going to blackmail you.

[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5475180]Apparently, seeking has been having undercover crews film meet and greets, fuck chambers, you name it. I hope none of you are in this?

[URL]https://crazyshit.com/cnt/medias/82660-the-real-face-of-prostitution-efukt[/URL]..[/QUOTE]I have seen videos of news reporters going undercover on Seeking pretending to be SB and taping the SD during the first meet.

[QUOTE=DavidTheSancho;5595923]Anyone ever have a sb that was married or had a boyfriend? Through some sleuthing I noticed a POT I want to meet is married. She did mention being from Utah so that kinda makes sense in a backwards way. Anyway I'm just thinking it could make things potentially messy. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Yes I have. If you look back at the big mess I was in this time last year with a girl that had a bf.

Previous to that I had met a Filipina off SA a few years ago and we only hooked up once. A year passed and fb started recommending a guy I might possibly know based on her phone number. From what I saw this guy looked to have just gotten out of prison. I can't remember how but her and I started talking on SC and I mentioned that guy and she said that she recently gotten married and he was her husband. But she still needed money and was still meeting up with men. I was like that's a hard pass for me.

I'll post later about a girl I've seen recently that also has a bf that she lives with.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5429231]IK I am a broken record, but if you're negotiating that price electronically instead of face to face, you're getting her 'escort' pricing. You could be an actual creep. Have some game, do a M&G, she might even like you / be attracted to you, and you'll get a better rate. I have had the hottest girls you can imagine, and the most I have ever paid (once) was 600, that was super special. Otherwise, 4 is my limit, I have a great steady SB at 1000/ mo for 3-4 FC meets, but sadly she is moving away. IK, 'that's what they all say,' but in her case it is true.[/QUOTE]Thanks for tip. I have not done this before, I'll sure to set price in meeting. Too many of these average girls asking for $500 ppm. No idea who is actually paying this amount when you can get hotter at $300.

I met this 18 yr old Latina from SB today. We had previously talked on SDM where she quoted me 500. I'm not a big basket like some so 300 is my limit. A month or so ago I saw her on SB and started chatting her up and we took it offline. Again quoted me 500. I made my offer and she never replied. Today we started chatting because she supposedly broke her phone. We agree on 350. Had a great time. She's just your average cute local, which is exactly what I like. We did it 3 xs and will see her again.

I just hate that I was on a dry spell and now I currently have this girl and 3 other potentials. I can't be indulging in all 4 ugh choices choices choices.

"Meager one thousand" Talk about cockiness to the next level.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4d4f347a-2aac-4604-99c5-ede03f48c116[/URL]

[QUOTE=CreamFire;5693669]"Meager one thousand" Talk about cockiness to the next level.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4d4f347a-2aac-4604-99c5-ede03f48c116[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow. That profile LOL. She could date anyone of her choosing and already makes insanely good money for her age LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1bfc6fff-2dc9-4590-9a50-bacea3936331[/URL]

This one wants 1 k ppm and is down for anything. I'll pass.

[QUOTE=OcasianBoy;5693897][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1bfc6fff-2dc9-4590-9a50-bacea3936331[/URL]

This one wants 1 k ppm and is down for anything. I'll pass.[/QUOTE]She must sell herself by the pound.

[QUOTE=Rouleur;5693904]She must sell herself by the pound.[/QUOTE]I died at that one. She initiated convo and quoted me the same as well before lowering to 900. I don't even know if that's gps anymore, just delusional. For 1 k I could be pulling models off that site. Hell even for half prob.