General Reports

[QUOTE=Binky77;2895139]Logic will get you nowhere.

They'll place ads saying "Call me", and express an interest in having regular clients, yet:

Why do they often have no phone when they can get a burner at Wally for ten bucks?

Why do they not setup their voice mail when they do have a phone in the brief interim between purchasing the phone and losing / destroying / forgetting / having the phone stolen?

Why don't they return phone calls?[/QUOTE]They're frigging prostitutes. You want an MBA degree??

[QUOTE=Binky77;2893924]What's the theory behind providers requesting mature men / men over 45-50-55/ seniors?

I suppose the idea is that they have slower libidos?

Less likely to be pimps?

Will be less likely to be dangerous?[/QUOTE]This entire time I always held the theory that, the provider knows she's old, out of shape, ugly and past her prime and so not to offend younger clients (who expect a decent body) the providers just give up and try for older men who will go ahead with the deed because the provider thinks these men have no standards.

[QUOTE=Binky77;2893924]What's the theory behind providers requesting mature men / men over 45-50-55/ seniors?

I suppose the idea is that they have slower libidos?

Less likely to be pimps?

Will be less likely to be dangerous?[/QUOTE]As one of those old guys (who does have a libido to handle MSOG) I have often found myself becoming a father figure from time to time. I've met hookers for lunch, taken them shopping (not all, but the ones that become regulars), given financial advice, given them marketing advice, had them cry on my shoulder, and just last week had a spinner tell me she likes seeing me because I get her to cum faster and bigger than anyone else and that if she is having trouble getting excited she closes her eyes and imagines she is with me (which, according to her, that reaction is good for her business).

So, yes, we are more reliable, less drama. It is business.

Just my two cents.

C3.

[QUOTE=KSpacey;2894372]My theory is, old guys probably:

* are more likely to show up.

* only able to do 1 shot instead of asking for MSOG.

* won't be as likely as a young guy to be clingy.

* have money.

* are a better opportunity for a sugar daddy.

* more likely married / have an SO and will keep it professional and possibly become regulars.

* more mature.

*are not pimps.

But what do I know? I'm an old guy.[/QUOTE]I'm only in my early forties. But damn it, I think I fit in all of the above categories. I've also been noticing when advertisers say they are looking for "Older" clients, they include ages above 40. Holy crap, I think I'm getting old. This is no good. Now that I think about it, I can't remember the last time I picked out winter cloths because they looked cool. I just want them to be warm because the cold makes my joints ache a little. Ugh. Not good at all.

[QUOTE=CraterMakr;2896790]I'm only in my early forties. But damn it, I think I fit in all of the above categories. I've also been noticing when advertisers say they
are looking for "Older" clients, they include ages above 40. Holy crap, I think I'm getting old. This is no good. Now that I think about it, I can't remember the
last time I picked out winter cloths because they looked cool. I just want them to be warm because the cold makes my joints ache a little. Ugh. Not good at
all.[/QUOTE]How about doing this hobby for 20 years now, and you started 20 years ago when you were 40.

If you are 40 now, you got many years of enjoyment left in this hobby.

[QUOTE=Binky77;2893924]What's the theory behind providers requesting mature men / men over 45-50-55/ seniors?

I suppose the idea is that they have slower libidos?

Less likely to be pimps?

Will be less likely to be dangerous?[/QUOTE]You will get a lot of different opinions. There is now correct answer. They are all different.

One to include is that some think older men will treat them better in many different ways.

[QUOTE=Binky77;2893924]What's the theory behind providers requesting mature men / men over 45-50-55/ seniors?

I suppose the idea is that they have slower libidos?

Less likely to be pimps?

Will be less likely to be dangerous?[/QUOTE]I have heard from working girls that the young guys have too much energy and not enough money. The young guys want to fuck like ramrod porn stars and sometimes hurt the girls without intending to. Older guys are more casual, know what they want and are more gentlemanly about it, even if they are pigs. They aren't going to grab too hard or pummel a girl into the bed.

Mature men are also more gracious with the money, even if it's not too much more. Young guys are broke and will grind you for a $5 price break, whereas older guys have an extra $20 to spend and don't care.

Young guys don't appreciate shit. Remember when you were younger and an 18-year-old girl who was a 6 was a pig in your eyes? Now, that same girl is a goddess. I would love an 18-year-old who was a 6. What we mostly get are 41-year-olds who are 4's, and if they're nice, I treat them better than I probably treated girls when I was 20.

There is also less drama with older guys. Older guys have their own shit going on, and younger guys don't have shit going on. Older guys aren't looking to make a hooker their girlfriend. I call, we meet, we play, I leave. I don't bring my bullshit to you, and I don't have any room for your bullshit in my life.

[QUOTE=SuckerBill;2915014]I have heard from working girls that the young guys have too much energy and not enough money. The young guys want to fuck like ramrod porn stars and sometimes hurt the girls without intending to. Older guys are more casual, know what they want and are more gentlemanly about it, even if they are pigs. They aren't going to grab too hard or pummel a girl into the bed.

Mature men are also more gracious with the money, even if it's not too much more. Young guys are broke and will grind you for a $5 price break, whereas older guys have an extra $20 to spend and don't care.

Young guys don't appreciate shit. Remember when you were younger and an 18-year-old girl who was a 6 was a pig in your eyes? Now, that same girl is a goddess. I would love an 18-year-old who was a 6. What we mostly get are 41-year-olds who are 4's, and if they're nice, I treat them better than I probably treated girls when I was 20.

There is also less drama with older guys. Older guys have their own shit going on, and younger guys don't have shit going on. Older guys aren't looking to make a hooker their girlfriend. I call, we meet, we play, I leave. I don't bring my bullshit to you, and I don't have any room for your bullshit in my life.[/QUOTE]


The replies to my question have been an interesting discussion, including the above post.


What about "No blacks"?


It can't be only racism unless the number of prostitutes who are racist is much greater than the number of (anti-black) racists in the general population.
And I think black hookers also sometimes advertise that.

(Although I haven't done a search for info on what % of the population are anti-black racists and haven't tried to track what % of hooker ads specify "No blacks".
Maybe this does reflect general racism in the USA, and it's just that hookers can discriminate and won't be prosecuted for it unlike "legit" businesses).

Can it be fear of pimps? I would think the % of the black population who are pimps is minute, and also that part of being a pimp means not starting off by

paying the prostitute, but instead maintaining control at all times. Hookers on Boulder have told me they get approached by pimps while walking, but not as a customer -
they just try to get the hooker to work for them.

(The belief that) Lack of respect toward women among black men is greater than lack of respect amongst non-black men?
"Deez bitches. " etc. ?

It's always about the money. The percentage of white people with money, especially older dudes, will always be higher than blacks and white young ones put together. They speak from exeprience; they know older white people will likely be less trouble than other races / ages.

[QUOTE=Binky77;2915762]The replies to my question have been an interesting discussion, including the above post.


What about "No blacks"?


It can't be only racism unless the number of prostitutes who are racist is much greater than the number of (anti-black) racists in the general population.
And I think black hookers also sometimes advertise that.

(Although I haven't done a search for info on what % of the population are anti-black racists and haven't tried to track what % of hooker ads specify "No blacks".
Maybe this does reflect general racism in the USA, and it's just that hookers can discriminate and won't be prosecuted for it unlike "legit" businesses).

Can it be fear of pimps? I would think the % of the black population who are pimps is minute, and also that part of being a pimp means not starting off by

paying the prostitute, but instead maintaining control at all times. Hookers on Boulder have told me they get approached by pimps while walking, but not as a customer -
they just try to get the hooker to work for them.

(The belief that) Lack of respect toward women among black men is greater than lack of respect amongst non-black men?
"Deez bitches. " etc. ?[/QUOTE]It's generally the "manager" or thug thing. Girls with "managers" don't want to go anywhere near another manager. That can be really bad news. She may have instructions to stay away from anyone who might be a manager and that's disproportionately black. Someone who is thuggish might roll them as well.

So that generally leaves black hobbyists in a bit of a limited market. Is it discrimination. Yes. But the girls make the rules and it's silly to try and even argue with them. Though, you may see a "no blacks" post from the same girl then next week no such limits on their posts.

There are some girls who've figured things out. If you don't sound like thug on the telephone, you're most likely not to be one in person. They use their judgment and make a case by case call. Better safe than sorry. That goes for both sides of the hobby.

During a recent visit to your city I was able to visit with both ladies mention in the title. I am putting this report in this section because I can not remember where or how I found them. Both ladies are not the spinner type or for everyone. They are of the MILF type, both in the mid 40's. Both provide a very nice nude sensual massage on the bed. The appointments were set up as incalls in the southwest area of the city. Both ladies provide shower arrangement before or after the massage, nice conversational, nice 36 DD / C's to play with / Suck, some kissing and FIV. Damage was between $1. 0 and $1. 25. Received the full hour and a little more. Not clock watcher and no upsell (which was nice for a change). For me, I had a very relaxing time with both ladies and would repeat the next time I visit your city.

Have you got contact info for them?

[QUOTE=Michigan3;2939844]During a recent visit to your city I was able to visit with both ladies mention in the title. I am putting this report in this section because I can not remember where or how I found them. Both ladies are not the spinner type or for everyone. They are of the MILF type, both in the mid 40's. Both provide a very nice nude sensual massage on the bed. The appointments were set up as incalls in the southwest area of the city. Both ladies provide shower arrangement before or after the massage, nice conversational, nice 36 DD / C's to play with / Suck, some kissing and FIV. Damage was between $1. 0 and $1. 25. Received the full hour and a little more. Not clock watcher and no upsell (which was nice for a change). For me, I had a very relaxing time with both ladies and would repeat the next time I visit your city.[/QUOTE]

Hey guys, I will be going to Vegas soon with a few buddies and I was wondering if anyone here has recommendations on girls. Now I've read the forums and I will be in search of CG's. I'm not a big strip club guy so I doubt I will be going to any, nor will I cruise BH and Trop because I'm not familiar with the area. I have posted a couple of adds on CL and BP to see if any ladies bite, but will see how that works. I would prefer someone to come to my room and I will be staying in DTLV, not sure what hotel yet but its between the D and Golden Nugget. I've tried to connect with a couple of girls I met here in LA that have a 702 number, but none have responded.

So what I'm asking is this, does anyone have a for sure girl that they can recommend in Vegas? Maybe a regular? I just want to limit the run around and risk of being rob by TTFTT. If not its all good.

Also if I decide to hit up BH or Trop, are SW's willing to go back to my Hotel? I know its probably a case by case scenario but I would not want to do a car date in an unfamiliar neighborhood.

Thanks Gents.

[QUOTE=Watnow78;2941149]Hey guys, I will be going to Vegas soon with a few buddies and I was wondering if anyone here has recommendations on girls. I would prefer someone to come to my room and I will be staying in DTLV, not sure what hotel yet but its between the D and Golden Nugget. So what I'm asking is this, does anyone have a for sure girl that they can recommend in Vegas? Maybe a regular? I just want to limit the run around and risk of being rob by TTFTT. If not its all good.
Thanks Gents.[/QUOTE]It's completely understandable that you want a for sure girl that comes with a guarantee that you will have the most fun for the lowest price without any hassles or trouble. Of course nobody wants a run-around or to get robbed or to get setup in a police sting.

But there is just no guaranteed for sure girl out there like that. I mean there are some great girls around but you will always have risk in this hobby. You're dealing with girls that have drug habits, pimps, boyfriends and lots of trouble you may never know about.

Good luck out there.

GB40.

I'm going to Vegas next month and I'm looking forward to pour a large sum of money on some good Vegas fun. I really want to get with a good, young 10. I'm talking goddess level. I'm not sure where I would look to find such a good girl. (1,000 a night) But I would be willing to play. My best thought was to find her at a strip club. Does anyone have any direction they can point me in?