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[QUOTE=Levi10; 1888889]In all seriousness, I never see any of these girls outside of the bedroom. I've never just hung out with one and don't plan to start now. Once you start chilling with them emotions get involved and invariably someones expectations end up not getting met which leads to feelings get hurt.

I agree with EddieL. Run don't walk from this gold digger

Best of luck

L10.[/QUOTE]I agree with L10 on these points 100% business is business and pleasure is pleasure! To mix business with pleasure you must get the DETAILS nailed down before you start nailing her OR YOU are the one who will get nailed.... Get it? .

[QUOTE=CMale135; 1888375]I've been seeing a UTR in NYC for the past two weeks. The situation got out of control, so it's all over now (although she doesn't know it yet). The girl is drop dead gorgeous; tall, leggy, big breasted, tight where it counts, talented mouth, varied menu, everything covered. I liked that we also spent time together just hanging out. The problem is that she has no shame when it comes to taking my money and expecting more. Today we agreed that I'd give her $$ to shop with before heading back to her place. I handed over the cash. Plus a bottle of champagne. When we met, then headed out to a high end store. She rang up another $ on the tab then turned to me to pick it up. I could have told her to put some of it back, but I figured if I did that I'd get nothing for my $$. Guess it's my own damn fault for not enforcing limits with someone who has an outrageous sense of entitlement.

There's lots of discussion about negotiating with providers who advertise but I haven't seen much about about negotiating with providers who are not openly in business. Is there a difference? Once a girl asks for cash and things get physical, it is safe to assume she's in the trade? Maybe she thought she was simply a high maintenance date who could get away with this sort of stuff. I'm thinking my approach was wrong, or maybe I'm just too damn cheap.[/QUOTE]

You could have the underpinnings of a Sugardaddy / sugarbaby relationship. The problem is it doesn't sound like you are really the 'Daddy Warbucks' type nor have you set down clear guidelines.

In a relationship like this you absolutely NEED to lay down the law at the beginning of the arrangement. Otherwise you end up where you are....-being taken advantage of. She is hitting your wallet pretty hard without you setting realistic limitations. She rang the bill up for an extra $100 and you let it fly??? Pardon my vulgar attitude here, but...."GROW SOME SACK DUDE!" tell the bi-otch no fucking way!
Right there, right then. If she wants the extra 'bling' than she is going to hafta 'sing' some extra notes into the microphone OR a little extra tongue on the old 'balloon-knot'! The sooner you make that clear, the happier you will be. ;)

OR you could just dump that motherfucker's ass and go find yourself a nice piece of ass for the right price! :)

In the words of David Lee Roth 'I don't pay women for sex, I pay them to LEAVE!" :thumbsup:

Peace.

PK

You could have the underpinnings of a Sugardaddy / sugarbaby relationship. The problem is it doesn't sound like you are really the 'Daddy Warbucks' type nor have you set down clear guidelines.

I have had a couple of these relationships and they have worked out AWESOME for me. But as stated, the key to this type of thing to work you have to be very clear up front what your expectations are and find out for sure what their expectations were. I have not been with a provider in several months because I currently have an arrangement set up. The one I am with now tried to push her luck early on and I took care of her in a bind, but I was clear to her that I was not "seeing much return on my investment". Since then things are awesome, busting a nut several times a week, and I generally buy groceries once a week with some small things here and there. Most costly thing to me is the motel I take her too because she does need to know where I live. (sorry about the tangent) But back on track. Be clear up front and set your expectations early and find out hers!

[QUOTE=DragnDaddy; 1890249]You could have the underpinnings of a Sugardaddy / sugarbaby relationship. The problem is it doesn't sound like you are really the 'Daddy Warbucks' type nor have you set down clear guidelines.

I have had a couple of these relationships and they have worked out AWESOME for me. But as stated, the key to this type of thing to work you have to be very clear up front what your expectations are and find out for sure what their expectations were. I have not been with a provider in several months because I currently have an arrangement set up. The one I am with now tried to push her luck early on and I took care of her in a bind, but I was clear to her that I was not "seeing much return on my investment". Since then things are awesome, busting a nut several times a week, and I generally buy groceries once a week with some small things here and there. Most costly thing to me is the motel I take her too because she does need to know where I live. (sorry about the tangent) But back on track. Be clear up front and set your expectations early and find out hers![/QUOTE]Hey Dragn, thanks for the really thoughtful comment. And for the tangent (I assume you mean she does NOT need to know where you live). I hadn't given any thought at all about the sugardaddy / sugarbaby relationship until now. It's interesting to hear from someone who is there.

You're probably right, I may not be the type. As for expectations, I've already let her get away with stuff I usually don't let slide. If I go on with her I'd have to straighten that out right away. She is very high maintenance, thinks spending big bucks is sophisticated. I definitely don't see buying groceries once a week doing the trick. Right now I am leaning towards calling it off with this girl, but I have to admit I am tempted.

Now that I've come close to this type of relationship, I want to know more about how other guys handle it. How emotionally attached do you get to a sugar baby? She to you? How long do these relationships last? Would she think you're cheating if you see someone else? (Jeeze, even the thought of that makes my skin crawl. What am I thinking?)

C.

[QUOTE=Loki Pk; 1878301]Is that the "good' Extreme Alexis who I heard was AWESOME, or the Schenectady semi-streetwalker Alexis who advertises as extreme alexis but is a poor provider?

Anyone ever laid eyes on this girl?

Thanks.

Peace.

PK[/QUOTE]The Alexis in the link is the real deal and amazing but a little expensive (275 for GFE). I believe her and Sky we associates at Extreme Fantasies, same pics and prices.

Not one to take one but is this one tempting!

Someone, anyone who knows anything please enlighten me. 5'10" blonde! Gregg says she is simply amazing. Although he says that about every gal he has.

[url]http://albany.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/allure-escorts-now-introduces-two-stunning-22-yos-barbi-alaysha-to-its-staff-22/6625148[/url]

[QUOTE=EddieLewis; 1888750]Once she starts asking for cash and you freely give it the sex will only be a promise and become less and less but the money handouts seem to increase more and more.

Get out now while you can and do not look back.[/QUOTE]Having gone down this route too many times (I am a slow learner) I have to agree with Eddie on this as well. Of course if you just like to spend money and be seen with a gorgeous woman and don't mind the non-existent physical satisfaction, then go for it. Otherwise you have to be very, very clear about your needs both to yourself and to her. And don't waver.

Did anybody participate in the gangbang advertised on craigslist and if so do you have any details

[QUOTE=Matt574;1894352]Having gone down this route too many times (I am a slow learner) I have to agree with Eddie on this as well. Of course if you just like to spend money and be seen with a gorgeous woman and don't mind the non-existent physical satisfaction, then go for it. Otherwise you have to be very, very clear about your needs both to yourself and to her. And don't waver.[/QUOTE]It wasn't as bad as you guys warned, but it wasn't so good that I'm rushing back for more. As was so astutely suggested, I made my expectations crystal clear. I offered $$ for the hotel date, another .5 for groceries. She claimed her last SD gave her a lot more and would have said my offer was insulting. Still, she took it and we went on from there.

Turns out she's a bit of a germophobe. Cum is disgusting, she was constantly worried about getting STDs or other infections even though everything was covered. Surprising thing was she was willing to play with my a*hole but wouldn't let me near hers. Since mine is strictly one way, that didn't work out too well either. Funniest moment was when I asked if she had a SD pay for her boob job. She claimed she paid for it herself and it cost $7800. Most expensive boob job I've heard of. When I was driving her home she jumped me in the car, pulled my hand over her pussy, unzipped my pants and started stroking. I asked her to use her mouth, but spermophobia struck again. Still, it was a run ride.

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C.

[QUOTE=CMale135; 1896265]It wasn't as bad as you guys warned, but it wasn't so good that I'm rushing back for more. As was so astutely suggested, I made my expectations crystal clear. I offered $$ for the hotel date, another. 5 for groceries. She claimed her last SD gave her a lot more and would have said my offer was insulting. Still, she took it and we went on from there.

Turns out she's a bit of a germophobe. Cum is disgusting, she was constantly worried about getting STDs or other infections even though everything was covered. Surprising thing was she was willing to play with my a*hole but wouldn't let me near hers. Since mine is strictly one way, that didn't work out too well either. Funniest moment was when I asked if she had a SD pay for her boob job. She claimed she paid for it herself and it cost $7800. Most expensive boob job I've heard of. When I was driving her home she jumped me in the car, pulled my hand over her pussy, unzipped my pants and started stroking. I asked her to use her mouth, but spermophobia struck again. Still, it was a run ride.

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C.[/QUOTE]Not such a great deal considering she is 'sperma-phobic'. Unless you enjoy her sparkling personality, you can do MUCH better for less. IMHO.

Peace.

PK

[QUOTE=Loki Pk; 1897039]Not such a great deal considering she is 'sperma-phobic'. Unless you enjoy her sparkling personality, you can do MUCH better for less. IMHO.

Peace.

PK[/QUOTE]I have had a few SugarBabies and in my experience she is taking advantage of you. Mine have all provide a true GFE and look forward to keeping me happy! I echo you can do a lot better for less.

I have a provider who is thinking about trying a GB with 4 guys. I would like to get some feedback about who would be interested. There will be a fee and it would probably last an 1-1 1/2 to 2 hrs. Multiple pops are avail. You can pm if you think you might be interested. This is only in the planning stages so be patient. She is a very attractive girl also but she would more than likely be wearing a mask.

[QUOTE=Reaper302;1897838]I have a provider who is thinking about trying a GB with 4 guys. I would like to get some feedback about who would be interested. There will be a fee and it would probably last an 1-1 1/2 to 2 hrs. Multiple pops are avail. You can pm if you think you might be interested. This is only in the planning stages so be patient. She is a very attractive girl also but she would more than likely be wearing a mask.[/QUOTE]Who the hell can last that long? LOL Can I get a discount if I promise to be done and out after 5 minutes?

I got the chance to see Kendra today and I just got to say, DAMN YO! That was a GREAT time!

She had her boobs done over the summer and they are spectacular and I could smother myself in that cleavage until I blacked out, I swear.

Usual two call system and I was at her incall in less than 15 minutes and had my face buried in that hot, monster rack 5 minutes later! This girl can perform like a rock star, seeing as how she is a porn star already, I'm not sure which is better- she is a rockin-porn Star! Lots of gagging and sloppy cocksucking had me close to the breaking point in no time at all.

I had to have some time with that big, beautiful, backside so I moved around into a 69 position and worshipped that ass like a kid's toy on Christmas morning! Had a nice time with some tasty, natural DATY and tried to suffocate myself in that ass / pussy / package! Didn't work! But when I came (Russian, 69,cob) I thought I died and went to heaven.

I made a BIG sloppy mess and Kendra was a great sport about it, didn't miss a beat or make a face- when we were ready to move she got up and grabbed a towel and cleaned me up. It was a time I will be happy to 'Lather, Rinse, Repeat' as often as possible! ;).

Peace.

PK.

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Had the pleasure of seeing Dominique this morning. Really had a good time. Light screening was required easy to call system will definitely be seeing her again for the early morning appointment time.