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[QUOTE=Dyoung35; 1764492]To all of those who know the law better than I do,

Holly B. Claims that if I bring her cigarettes that somehow proves to her that I'm not Leo? She also claims that if she shows me her tits right off the bat that proves that she's not Leo. I don't beyond a reasonable doubt believe either one! Am I being too paranoid?

Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]Yeah. Get her to Crackers Open Mic Night.

Contrary to what a lot of people seem to believe, getting down and dirty has not been held to violate due process. Police action has to be "outrageous" (as determined by the court) in order to violate someone's rights. Hand jobs, intercourse, even the use of civilians has survived challenge. That doesn't mean this sort of thing can't be carried to enough of an extreme that a judge would dismiss a case. Just that none of that is proscribed on the face of it. The objection to the Carmel actions was ethical, not legal; with the big deal made over sex trafficking and slavery, supposedly what they were after (the money was just gravy) , getting women to perform beyond the minimum attention to the genitals was seen as insensitive. (Though it's really nothing of the sort; it's really an indication that they don't subscribe to their own propaganda.)

Traditionally, policewomen have been much more reluctant to disrobe than males, let alone engaging in physical contact. But no, nothing prevents them from doing so. Showing Your Tits is a time-honored street trick, but it's no guarantee. Cigarettes is a new one on me. No. They can provide you heroin if they see fit. Cops can pretty much lie about everything, and do anything that doesn't increase the level of criminality, though they seem to be forgetting that one occasionally.

Reminds me that as a sprout, in my third visit to the cathouses on US 40, I saw a new woman, and went to an upstairs room where she wriggled out of her clothes and laid down on the bed."Give me a kiss, honey," she said. I went to plant one on her."No, no, not up here!" she said, slightly horrified,"down there!" There was, apparently, a conviction that cops wouldn't eat pussy, although that might have been less a legal idea than a practical observation.

While I don't have it in front of me right this minute so I don't have the exact wording, the statute covering prostitution says any person that performs, or agrees to perform, a sex act for money is guilty of patronizing a prostitute. So, by the law's own definition it would seem any cop that offers sex for money (female le posing as SW / escort / etc) or agrees to pay money for sex (male le posing as a john) would be guilty of the same crime as those they arrest for that very same crime. The statute does not say "except for cop decoys."

Another example of there being no equal justice is the Bisard ordeal. Seems at the very least he is guilty of vehicular manslaughter driving drunk while on the job. The blood test proved he was drunk but with his buddies bungling the blood draw it looks like that won't be admitted. Now, had that of been you or I, I bet the blood draw would have been perfect and we would have been in jail since that very day.

Thank You B Beal & Chelli. You guys are more than a voice of reason!

I very rarely post. But your comment made me smile. I also remember one of my first visits to the establishment on 40 across from the diner, and later near the bowling ally. I was also a sprout and newbie to the hobby. I was plenty nervous and certainly didn't know what to expect. But, when we settled in our room and she directed me to kiss her "below the belly button", I thought I had hit gold. With those two establishments, and the one in Clermont, my meager pay checks didn't stand a chance back then.

[QUOTE=B Beall; 1764545].

Reminds me that as a sprout, in my third visit to the cathouses on US 40, I saw a new woman, and went to an upstairs room where she wriggled out of her clothes and laid down on the bed."Give me a kiss, honey," she said. I went to plant one on her."No, no, not up here!" she said, slightly horrified,"down there!" There was, apparently, a conviction that cops wouldn't eat pussy, although that might have been less a legal idea than a practical observation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shoedog69;1764687]I very rarely post. But your comment made me smile. I also remember one of my first visits to the establishment on 40 across from the diner, and later near the bowling ally. I was also a sprout and newbie to the hobby. I was plenty nervous and certainly didn't know what to expect. But, when we settled in our room and she directed me to kiss her "below the belly button", I thought I had hit gold. With those two establishments, and the one in Clermont, my meager pay checks didn't stand a chance back then.[/QUOTE]Is there anyone here who didn't start their career at the Hendricks County Line? We all probably squeezed past each other through so many doorways there are still splinters in our Levi's.

[QUOTE=Dyoung35; 1762623]Hello Gents,

I happened across a Cutie (pics anyway) on CL before the post was flagged. Has anyone seen a lovely blue eyed blonde by the name of Holly B? She claimed to have reviews on aNotheR site, but I didn't find any. She looks EXTREMELY hot so I imagine it's TGTBT. Call me Mister Curious!

Happy Hunting.

Daniel[/QUOTE]Well. I decided to take a chance and for once it turned out good!

Holly is real and legit. Still not sure where she got that idea about cigarettes or alcohol being provide by a client proves he's not Leo? Nevertheless, she is sweet and cute. The pictures are truly her! She is a little curvier than I expected, but has been losing weight. If she keeps that up, she would be a true hottie! She also possess certain skills that are INCREDIBLE!

Holly claims to want to find some regular clientele. If any Senior members are interested, feel free to drop me a line.

Happy Hunting,

Daniel

[QUOTE=Dyoung35; 1765386]Well. I decided to take a chance and for once it turned out good!

Holly is real and legit. Still not sure where she got that idea about cigarettes or alcohol being provide by a client proves he's not Leo? Nevertheless, she is sweet and cute. The pictures are truly her! She is a little curvier than I expected, but has been losing weight. If she keeps that up, she would be a true hottie! She also possess certain skills that are INCREDIBLE!

Holly claims to want to find some regular clientele. If any Senior members are interested, feel free to drop me a line.

Happy Hunting,

Daniel[/QUOTE]Glad to hear it worked out. I was worried you'd opt for a real lawyer. Course the screwing would be more thorough.

Beware friends she's a scam, pics aren't even close, does next to nothing, disinterested, has someone waiting in room next to you, plays ring around the Rosie getting to her location, and hands only THAT'S IT, I just left hell I could do that LOL, buyer beware!

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[QUOTE=West Central;1765331]Is there anyone here who didn't start their career at the Hendricks County Line? We all probably squeezed past each other through so many doorways there are still splinters in our Levi's.[/QUOTE]Although I hit that stretch often, prior to that my formative years were spent on Keystone north of 38th and at a few places on 38th between Shadeland and Keystone if my failing memory serves me correct.

[QUOTE=Ilapp;1767377]Although I hit that stretch often, prior to that my formative years were spent on Keystone north of 38th and at a few places on 38th between Shadeland and Keystone if my failing memory serves me correct.[/QUOTE]The block north of the Town & Country on Keystone. Bookstore, strip club, and massage parlor, all in the same building, I think? I was a good Christian lad who stopped in the former to buy some marital aids, came back out to the car, and was about to back out when in the rearview mirror I saw the side door open. That was where the parlor was. Out walked a woman, not too tall, in a long white dress that was practically transparent. Slit up the side. She was obviously innocent of underthings. There was either a lighted sign or a security lamp there, and she arched her back against the brick wall, raised her arms, and stretched. That was all it took. I've been lost at sea ever since.

Absolutely true story, except for the religious overtones.

[QUOTE=Ilapp;1767377]Although I hit that stretch often, prior to that my formative years were spent on Keystone north of 38th and at a few places on 38th between Shadeland and Keystone if my failing memory serves me correct.[/QUOTE]Was a place by the track. We used to get in line to park in the infield, back in the day before the bleachers. Anyone remember the snake pit at the first turn? (not the name of the parlor btw)

Anyway I was 22 years old and drunk, knocked on the door and a big titted black girl answerd. She took me to the room and had her way with me all for 25 bucks! That was alot of money for me to spend for somthing I could get free at a bar just by looking at a girl. LOL, like I said many many moons ago, the 6 pk abs and pony tail have gone with the wind.

[QUOTE=B Beall; 1767476]The block north of the Town & Country on Keystone. Bookstore, strip club, and massage parlor, all in the same building, I think? I was a good Christian lad who stopped in the former to buy some marital aids, came back out to the car, and was about to back out when in the rearview mirror I saw the side door open. That was where the parlor was. Out walked a woman, not too tall, in a long white dress that was practically transparent. Slit up the side. She was obviously innocent of underthings. There was either a lighted sign or a security lamp there, and she arched her back against the brick wall, raised her arms, and stretched. That was all it took. I've been lost at sea ever since.

Absolutely true story, except for the religious overtones.[/QUOTE]The entrance for that part was around to the southside of the building, the drive home from Dave's Doll House, the original two story Harem House, Diamond's and 38th St. Bar, all led past the ones by Sherman, and Emerson, the one right off Mass Ave, the one next to the tracks almost just across the street from the Fairgrounds. I used to pull into all the little strip centers along 38th just to see if there was one I didn't know about, in those pre Nuvo, pre-internet advertising days.

Keep 'them coming.

I went to my first house of ill repukes in 1980. It was called the Scorpion in Fort Wayne, a kinda half a biker bar half a strip club. Handies and hummers were available for the asking. I was 17 and looked 12. I went with my buddy and got served, with no I'd and no questions. In the back they showed these nasty super 8 flicks like straight out of the George C. Scott movie Hardcore. Up front there was this big homely naked girl rolling around on stage. Three Japanese business guys were sitting at the rail, making excited Japanese sounds and thrusting dollar bills at her. She responded by buffing their heads with her ample ass. Me and my friend sat back watching and laughing until I almost pissed myself.

Nowadays, the hobby is something I just do occasionally, the cherry on my ice cream for being a good boy. Mostly I work my ass off, take care of my family and employees, pay a load of taxes, and get older. Why the fuck I shouldn't be allowed to smoke a bowl a give a young honey a few dollars to ride my knob from time to time?

Any of you youngsters out there feeling left out should know that things are way, way better nowadays.

[QUOTE=B Beall;1768365]Any of you youngsters out there feeling left out should know that things are way, way better nowadays.[/QUOTE]I mean unless your talking about matteral things like cell phones, enet and such. But the hobbie was way better back in the day. Only thing you had to worry about catching was fixed by a shot in the ass. And its never going to be like it was about 10-11 years ago in Louisville, Preston hwy was like a candy store.

Give me the ol days. Better cars too.

[QUOTE=West Central;1765331]Is there anyone here who didn't start their career at the Hendricks County Line? We all probably squeezed past each other through so many doorways there are still splinters in our Levi's.[/QUOTE]Not me. My hobby career was launched at the original Mustang Ranch (may it rest in peace)!

Count me as another one who's mongering career started out there. Man THOSE were the good ole days! I remember 4 parlors within one block out on west US40 and 2-3 more in Clermont. You could walk into any one of those places and the available gals were right there in front of you sitting around in some kind of skimpy attire. You knew what you were getting, no fake pics, photoshop etc. And session prices were posted in plain view, no bartering for a lower rate. I seem to remember a 30 min session was $20 at all of them. Services were very reasonable as well. A blow could be had for about the same rate as the session and FS about double that. But the best thing about those gals was that they were enthusiastic and quality providers. Not one time did I ever leave any of them thinking I had gotten gyped. Those gals gave a PSE way before there even was such a term. I would still be visiting them if they were still there.

I can't agree that things are better nowadys. Not even close in my opinion. Costs are outrageous, then there's the ones that upsell, the ones that are just awful providers, the one that make but don't keep appts. Etc. Etc.

[QUOTE=Two Nutts; 1768447]I mean unless your talking about matteral things like cell phones, enet and such. But the hobbie was way better back in the day. Only thing you had to worry about catching was fixed by a shot in the ass. And its never going to be like it was about 10-11 years ago in Louisville, Preston hwy was like a candy store.

Give me the ol days. Better cars too.[/QUOTE]Oh, I'll definitely take metal and analogue over plastic and digital 9 times out of 10. Steel bicycles. Tube amplifiers. I suppose I prefer modern photography and film for convenience and preservation, but the idea of a phone that follows me around isn't progress, it's the vile amusement of a trickster god.

And maybe your good old days were gooder and not so old as mine. (Ten years ago to me is like last night's dinner. Though I don't actually remember last night's dinner.) The internet was a godsend. Pictures! Menus! GFE! Had some great times in the old days, too, but it was all pot luck.

And there was a code of professional standoffishness, too. Not everywhere, but standard, in my experience. No kissing. The first post I ever read on what became this board (and was then the BBS-looking Another Forum) was entitled "I made a hooker come!" The personal wasn't shared. I think I'd accomplished that twice at that point, both times with a chemical assist. Today I'm partly deaf in one ear from a certain raven-haired beauty who shared [i]everything. [/i] Wholeheartedly. And repaid tenfold.

I'm not sure, I think it was about 10 years ago. The old lady was out of town. I got a little drunk and called an "escort service". Not sure if I got the number from Nuvo classified or the yellow pages. I was told it would be $100 and they would send "her" (they used to describe them, no photos) right out. She wasn't much to look at, but I just wanted off, so I handed her $100. She said to take my clothes off which I did. Then she said ok, jack off. I said I needed her to take her clothes off. She said that will be $1500. I put my clothes back on and thanked God I was only out $100. That was the last time I ever called an "escort service" from the classifieds. It was soon thereafter I discovered Hot Friends. $350 for 2 hours of GFE!

[QUOTE=Chelli4me; 1768489]Count me as another one who's mongering career started out there. Man THOSE were the good ole days! I remember 4 parlors within one block out on west US40 and 2-3 more in Clermont. You could walk into any one of those places and the available gals were right there in front of you sitting around in some kind of skimpy attire. You knew what you were getting, no fake pics, photoshop etc. And session prices were posted in plain view, no bartering for a lower rate. I seem to remember a 30 min session was $20 at all of them. Services were very reasonable as well. A blow could be had for about the same rate as the session and FS about double that. But the best thing about those gals was that they were enthusiastic and quality providers. Not one time did I ever leave any of them thinking I had gotten gyped. Those gals gave a PSE way before there even was such a term. I would still be visiting them if they were still there.

I can't agree that things are better nowadys. Not even close in my opinion. Costs are outrageous, then there's the ones that upsell, the ones that are just awful providers, the one that make but don't keep appts. Etc. Etc.[/QUOTE]Those were the places that opened when Indy closed everything down. One by Galyans, another down the street. One across the street from the old dinner and two down the street from it. The one I remember the most was the former model home. Nice place and hot chicks. Not AMP chicks, American chicks. The place in the old motel down the street from the dinner was where I got my first black ass! Clermont had one or two in a strip center and one across the street and down a bit from the entrance to Raceway Park. Those were great days.

[QUOTE=Stnick62;1768650]Clermont had one or two in a strip center.[/QUOTE]Went to one in the strip mall twice. Tiny, airless rooms with a plank bed. One girl working each time. The first was a pretty Japanese with next to no English. Said she liked working there, and not the place next door, because in the other "Not making love". The second was a model-stunning African-American. Maybe they didn't let non-Caucasians in the big house. Sweat-drenched sex each time, bouncing off the walls, both totally into it, no attention to the clock at all. Head and shoulders above anything I'd experienced in a commercial operation. Went back like two weeks later and it was closed.

It's sort of a 50/50 proposition for me, the old days and nowadays. The great things about back then were the general "who cares" attitude, where it wasn't such a big deal to be or see a prostitute (I even knew a few cops who wouldn't visit during business, but were parked around back after hours). It wasn't such a big deal to get busted, your face on a website, your criminal records available to anyone who can Google. Sure, marriages were broken up, and people could find out information, but shaming a john wasn't the stated goal of an entire law enforcement division. The biggest difference for me was takeout at the clubs, whether SC or "singles bars" or nightclubs, maybe because I was a lot younger but you could walk out of most strip bars with a girl after brief negotiations with the manager, and most of the girls were realistic about why they were there. None of this "exotic dancer / college student" crap, they knew getting naked and rubbing your package was only step one. And no cameras, no digital record following you around everywhere you went. And it seemed like they all put out, none of this messing around hoping to get a HE, you just did, or more likely you got the full treatment.

Nowadays there are advantages too. The selection is enormous. The girls are better looking, on average. The prices are high, but considering inflation, it's actually lower than 20 or 30 years ago. $20 in 1980 is about $60 today. There's also more of a "class system", where we've got our streetwalkers, lot lizards, MP, strippers, independent escorts, and agency girls. Before, it was not as clearly defined, and you pretty much just took whoever you got. The biggest advantage today? Message boards like USASG, and review sites like those we can't mention here. They have their weaknesses, but in the old days it was all down to your buddy telling you "hey I went to the parlor yesterday and there's a hot new girl working". Now, you can find out that information anywhere in the world, get dissenting opinions, and multiple reviews.

Communication is a double-edged sword. It's great to be able to call a girl and confirm an appt on your way there. Text is awesome when you're in company and couldn't possibly talk to a provider on the phone. But I wish the damned things had never been invented, personally.

And the phone book escort agencies? I hope they all burn in hell.

[QUOTE=Stnick62; 1768650]Those were the places that opened

When Indy closed everything down. One by Galyans, another down the street. One across the street from the old dinner and two down the street from it. The one I remember the most was the former model home. Nice place and hot chicks. Not AMP chicks, American chicks. The place in the old motel down the street from the dinner was where I got my first black ass! Clermont had one or two in a strip center and one across the street and down a bit from the entrance to Raceway Park. Those were great days.[/QUOTE]Man, I thought I was the only old fucker that would remember those places.

Thosewere the good old days for sure.

Was after the Soviet Union broke up, I used to go to Israel two or three times a year on business and the place was flooded with Russian girls who had immigrated. You could make a phone call and have a supper model at your hotel for a hundred dollars. Most didn't speak English but they new their job. Thanks for the old world sex guide.

[url]http://www.theindychannel.com/news/call-6-investigators/impd-high-dollar-call-girl-ring-raided-near-fashion-mall[/url]

And on chanel 8 they state that another lady was an informant

[QUOTE=Indplsgent4fu; 1769912][url]http://www.theindychannel.com/news/call-6-investigators/impd-high-dollar-call-girl-ring-raided-near-fashion-mall[/url]

And on chanel 8 they state that another lady was an informant[/QUOTE]Did they say "woman"? The report I saw said something like "someone inside the prostitution community". Kind of careful wording, and 8 was obviously just taking stenography from the police report. And it didn't say "voluntarily".

I think that's far from 100% reliable at this point. They reportedly seized the phone and laptop of the woman arrested earlier, which is more likely to be the basis for the felony charge. To get an arrest warrant for someone not in custody purely from hearsay might be something of a stretch.

Then again, they did have 300, 000 good reasons to get that warrant. 200K of them green. Between the Russians and the Asians (and $500, 000) I'm not convinced that the Feds weren't sitting on someone's shoulder here.

[QUOTE=Bfeguy; 1769751]Man, I thought I was the only old fucker that would remember those places.

Thosewere the good old days for sure.[/QUOTE]Man oh Man! Those where the Good 'OL Days. The old house just West of Clermont. Did a lot of Nuttin' in there. Some pretty good looking girls too. The couple places mentioned on East Washington. My My. Probably a good thing they are gone = I'd be broke now-a-days. Pretty cheap too really!

[QUOTE=B Beall; 1769937]Did they say "woman"? The report I saw said something like "someone inside the prostitution community". Kind of careful wording, and 8 was obviously just taking stenography from the police report. And it didn't say "voluntarily".

I think that's far from 100% reliable at this point. They reportedly seized the phone and laptop of the woman arrested earlier, which is more likely to be the basis for the felony charge. To get an arrest warrant for someone not in custody purely from hearsay might be something of a stretch.

Then again, they did have 300, 000 good reasons to get that warrant. 200K of them green. Between the Russians and the Asians (and $500, 000) I'm not convinced that the Feds weren't sitting on someone's shoulder here.[/QUOTE]Follow the money? Say it ain't so!

[quote=bfeguy; 1769751]man, i thought i was the only old fucker that would remember those places.

Thosewere the good old days for sure.[/quote]not old! Experienced!

Was the place out by IRP. I remember "Torie", a young pretty shorthaired brunette I met there in 95. They closed the house and moved to an office on Lynnhurst and I70, but then closed by mid '96 or '97 I think.

Then a couple years ago I go in for an incall and guess who met me there? The same "Torie"!

Small world.

[QUOTE=Indplsgent4fu; 1769912][url]http://www.theindychannel.com/news/call-6-investigators/impd-high-dollar-call-girl-ring-raided-near-fashion-mall[/url]

And on chanel 8 they state that another lady was an informant[/QUOTE]The Feds were probably tipped off by immigration and the IRS which tipped off the IMPD! Welcome to entradepartment communication. With the Boston thing I bet a lot of Russians are going to get looked at. The really high end girls 1000-2000 an hour are always out of towners and don't have to advertise. They just need knowledge and entery to very high end functions. The guys there know what's up and will pay that price cause they can, and the girl in front of them isn't a single mother from Crawfordsville that used to work at Babes! LOL!

They said the arrested "madam" had other girls working for her. My guess is one of the girls felt the madam had screwed her over somehow and made a phone call to uncle leo.

[QUOTE=Osirusss;1770574]The Feds were probably tipped off by immigration and the IRS which tipped off the IMPD! Welcome to entradepartment communication. With the Boston thing I bet a lot of Russians are going to get looked at. The really high end girls 1000-2000 an hour are always out of towners and don't have to advertise. They just need knowledge and entery to very high end functions. The guys there know what's up and will pay that price cause they can, and the girl in front of them isn't a single mother from Crawfordsville that used to work at Babes! LOL![/QUOTE]

In light of the current local climate thought it best to only "chat" with trusted providers. I had a nice little visit with the always hot Miss T, who in light of the recent local push has gone back to a strict UTR presence, but who is still the great fun she has always been. If you know how to contact her no time like now before she is going to take off for a bit, always good to know whom you can trust for good times and safety. Now if we could just talk a few others that fit that bill out of retirement, Mmmmmm.

[QUOTE=Ilapp;1775046]Now if we could just talk a few others that fit that bill out of retirement, Mmmmmm.[/QUOTE]Hey, if golf can support a Seniors Tour.

Has anybody seen this girl?

[url]http://www.**************.com/escorts/zoey-indianapolis-white-female-0[/url]

She looks like someone that was very significant in my life (my much earlier life). I called today and the digits are disconnected. Please drop me a note if you know about her. Thanks

[QUOTE=Indy Wanker; 1781010]Has anybody seen this girl?

[url]http://www.**************.com/escorts/zoey-indianapolis-white-female-0[/url]

She looks like someone that was very significant in my life (my much earlier life). I called today and the digits are disconnected. Please drop me a note if you know about her. Thanks[/QUOTE]There is a zippy zoey (zippyzoey26) on here and NR. Check escort classified Ads thread. Don't see any useful photos though. Perhaps you could email her for some photos.

[QUOTE=WheresMary;1781511]There is a zippy zoey (zippyzoey26) on here and NR. Check escort classified Ads thread. Don't see any useful photos though. Perhaps you could email her for some photos.[/QUOTE]Reliable word is that ZZ is out of the hobby. Contacting any of those profiles, emails and possibly phone for same will reportedly lead to a costly and unpleasant stay downtown for a few hours.

TaZ

[QUOTE=TryinAgain2; 1781547]Reliable word is that ZZ is out of the hobby. Contacting any of those profiles, emails and possibly phone for same will reportedly lead to a costly and unpleasant stay downtown for a few hours.

TaZ[/QUOTE]Great! Can I get a collection to help pay my bail?

[QUOTE=Indy Wanker;1782026]Great! Can I get a collection to help pay my bail?[/QUOTE]Zoey and Zippy Zoey are not the same person. The post I replied to specifically said ZIPPY zoey, not Skinny Zoey.

Too many damn names that are too damn similar.

TaZ

Of Kandi of the southport kind?