Just wondering if anyone has seen Abbie Angel since her brief stint back in December? I see that she checks in on P411 from time to time but that could be just to keep the account open. Emailed her a couple of times but no response.
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Just wondering if anyone has seen Abbie Angel since her brief stint back in December? I see that she checks in on P411 from time to time but that could be just to keep the account open. Emailed her a couple of times but no response.
[QUOTE=BadAzMofo;2175013]Just wondering if anyone has seen Abbie Angel since her brief stint back in December? I see that she checks in on P411 from time to time but that could be just to keep the account open. Emailed her a couple of times but no response.[/QUOTE]Tried the same. Just gone. Talked to her a couple ties she said she was to busy with a business. Truelly a great loss.
[QUOTE=Slither;2175529]Tried the same. Just gone. Talked to her a couple ties she said she was to busy with a business. Truelly a great loss.[/QUOTE]My understanding is that Abbie found a significant other through an online dating site about the time she left. She also always had a day job that was extra busy in the summer. She also took extra long summer vacations up north I recall. I am hoping she does a short stint back this fall or over the December holidays. I miss the rain. LOL.
[QUOTE=Outfishing;2171791]Walk up the ramp from the side street sidewalk and go in the door. It looks like an office reception area when you get in there.[/QUOTE]I saw a possible fellow mongrel walk in today. I was there about three weeks ago, first time, however self-serve finish. I may chk out next week.
[QUOTE=RawhideRonnie;2176614]I saw a possible fellow mongrel walk in today. I was there about three weeks ago, first time, however self-serve finish. I may chk out next week.[/QUOTE]Yes, self serve for your first visits. Haven't been there too many times yet, but there is one who likes her nipples sucked, gets a bit vocal, and will finish things off once you've started things up.
On another note, Lilly on greenfield has a new set of girls. They are much more open, though the one I saw wasn't much to look at. They try to push self service, but are open to helping some. Too bad the massage part is suffering though, I could rely on a good massage with a bit of teasing, now it's mostly teasing.
I see they are suppose to have a newer younger crew. I haven't been. Maybe I will check it out unless one you experts says its still a waste of time.
I went to 3 AMPs last week. Success in all but it depends on how you define success. If getting a 55 year old Chinese granny to milk the lizzard is success, then it was. If getting a hot young Korean spinner to be with a mile of the place. Then no.
Had some long talks with these old women. Two told me they were married and therefore they limited the trip to Rome. One was single and gave off the husband hunting vibe. She provide something extra while one of my hero's said he came up short. That does not mean I am better at this that him. I gave off the wife hunting vibe, which is cheating. But all is fair in tug and war.
I'm trying to figure out why I keep going to these places when I have a perfectly nice UTR that is my dream provider. Super skinny and no holes barred. The AMP is about the same price as the UTR. Maybe I just need to go cold turkey on these AMPs. I've been to a bunch of them and there is only one girl in the entire city I like.
The stories I hear about Lay / Elle and Maria / Margaret are all over the board. Some guys who I know are just average guys have gotten hand jobs from those two with minimal encouragement $$. I got a good report from Autumn from a couple of mongers. Usually the upsell is quite high but not always. Gee, after all its just a HJ. Are they worth it. One day I hear 120 and then 180 or more the next. I suppose they can sense what they can get. Congrats to those who have succeeded. I'm not sure if you guys are super rich, super hot, or super lucky. I think some of use feel super stupid.
Then I hear some of the most experienced vets get nothing regardless of the negotiations. Then the occasional story of them off at a party or club, doing 3 ways. Or having an affair with a monger and craving sex, not charging a dime. I recall my little spinner Thai refusing to do more than a HJ, even when I offered several hundred. Then other guys getting FS or BJ for nothing extra. I hate you. To me she was as pretty as this bunch and I don't think I ever spent more than $100 tops -total.
To me this type is not worth the time and frustration. IMO they do know what they can get for a HJ and its higher than the normal 40 we pay at the AMP. They are also younger, good looking women in search of men who will support them along with hot guys for sex. Preferably a mix of both. As we all know, you cannot support a hip party club lifestyle of having a downtown loft and a nice car just doing massage. HJs will let you get by. BJs will pay the bills. And FS will get you to the lifestyle level you want. As long as one of these types spends extra on a gym membership and not drugs, they can have sweet lifestyle.
Really is their BJ any better than one from a stripper or SW? Or any one of our regular CMTs? Is their HJ really any better than from Ying and Yang down at the AMP? I'm sure the tease and build up is greater. I know the thrill of getting a sensual HJ from an attractive women who knows more than 5 works of English is thrilling.
Some my have the opinion that these girls are not giving HJ, FS and BJs, that its all and urban legend. I will disagree -- I will believe your stories about getting extras. Why? Because I myself have often gotten extras for nothing from providers known for not giving any. On any given day, you never know what will make a woman give in. She might be horny from just the hormones, she might need some money, she might just like you and like seeing you cum. Sometimes the chemistry is there and it just works.
I went to a legit CMT once and by the end of the hour she was blowing me. Then she never did it again. Told me she didn't know why she did it, refused to do it again, and I stopped going.
One night I picked up an AMP girl after work, well known for only giving a HJ with no roaming. I took her to dinner, then my hotel, fucked her bb (although she would not give me a BJ), she got her nut off twice, and I took her home to her family. No charge. She was 60 years old so it wasn't like I was with Lucy Lu.
[QUOTE=RawhideRonnie;2176614]I saw a possible fellow mongrel walk in today. I was there about three weeks ago, first time, however self-serve finish. I may chk out next week.[/QUOTE]Dreamed I left Beijing happy, massage rates a 7. 5.
The ending also rates 7. 5, with roaming. Damage was.
50 with. 40 tip. Good looking too, no troll.
Those of you who pay attention to such things may have noticed some new action in the storefront AMP arena lately. I've lived in places where a storefront AMP is pretty much a sure thing but here they're so paranoid that, while extras always are available at every single storefront AMP, have no doubt, here they're so paranoid that it can take multiple visits etc for them to relax and offer a new guy so much as even a handshake. I was a longtime customer of mamasan Jill, from the days of the old Taj (Oklahoma) to the new North location but I've lost interest with one too many lackluster guest star grannies being foisted on me, "favorite customer".
So, wondering if anyone has insight into what's going on with the wave of expansion. I surmise some of the new openings are related but I don't know if they're separate orgs or related to the existing places in the area. (Meaning, does my frequent massage card from one, or name dropping from another, hold any weight toward skipping the preliminaries with one of the new places?
This might be better discussed off-board, which is cool. Anything I learn I'll share around with trusted usernames.
W.
[QUOTE=Whistles;2184682]Those of you who pay attention to such things may have noticed some new action in the storefront AMP arena lately. I've lived in places where a storefront AMP is pretty much a sure thing but here they're so paranoid that, while extras always are available at every single storefront AMP, have no doubt, here they're so paranoid that it can take multiple visits etc for them to relax and offer a new guy so much as even a handshake. I was a longtime customer of mamasan Jill, from the days of the old Taj (Oklahoma) to the new North location but I've lost interest with one too many lackluster guest star grannies being foisted on me, "favorite customer".
So, wondering if anyone has insight into what's going on with the wave of expansion. I surmise some of the new openings are related but I don't know if they're separate orgs or related to the existing places in the area. (Meaning, does my frequent massage card from one, or name dropping from another, hold any weight toward skipping the preliminaries with one of the new places?
This might be better discussed off-board, which is cool. Anything I learn I'll share around with trusted usernames.
W.[/QUOTE]They can't stay in biz long without providing extras. There is not enough demand for legit massages from 60 year old women. There is not enough demand for HJs from 60 year old women. Some of the new spas are those that were run out of other markets and relocated. They won't be around long.
Yes they are paranoid and very careful. They should be. Just a matter of time before someone gets careless. But even if they didn't have to be careful, there are still too many.
I was looking at an arrest report on one who I thought was late 40's and she's 57. Really? Do I really want a HJ by a 57 year old woman I wouldn't look twice at on the street? She should be paying me. I'm going to stay on the AMP sidelines for awhile unless I really need just a massage.
So. After the recent report of new talent, I went back. As luck would have it, they were busy and got the same woman I got the last two times. Still self serve. Good massage and teasing but that was it. On the way out, the other ladies were done and all sitting in a row. 4 in all, all younger and all attractive and more skimpily attired than the one I got. DAMMIT!
Just bad luck for me.
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The prices are right. And it's practically in my neighborhood. I thinking about giving it a shot.
[QUOTE=Dennerb;2185636]So. After the recent report of new talent, I went back. As luck would have it, they were busy and got the same woman I got the last two times. Still self serve. Good massage and teasing but that was it. On the way out, the other ladies were done and all sitting in a row. 4 in all, all younger and all attractive and more skimpily attired than the one I got. DAMMIT!
Just bad luck for me.[/QUOTE]Oh, how many times has that happened to me at some AMP. Hate leaving an AMP and seeing a super hot MILF or young girl.
Look there was a reason they were busy and old scarecrow wasn't. Look if they had 4 who were busy, that tells me the place is doing some nice business and has some happy customers. Some of its psychological. Perhaps anyone would look good next to what you got. Got to keep it in perspective.
Worse is when you get a hottie and she offers a BJ. You think you just hit the lottery, pay her a nice tip and she pulls our Saran Wrap or cock stinging anti-bacterial soap -NOOOOOOO!
RO is still a NO unless Crystal is there. They kicked her out until she fits their standards.
Lefty, you and Dog and BadAz remain my heroes. You are correct, cock teases will lose their looks. Drives me nuts when I get turned down and called a pervert and then some other guy posts about how he had a 3 way with them for $100. Doesn't make sense. They want to act like they are above it, but they aren't. They just don't like us. Don't brush my balls during an undraped massage and put your tits in my face or be topless and then be surprised when I ask about extras. Once you decided to tease around my balls or sit on my chest wearing a thong, I think we both know what type of massage place you are.