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We can change the "game"
I also agree that we are doing nothing to change the dynamics of the ss locations. But we do have the ability to do so. Think about this: as a group, we are the only reason any of these places exist. So if we, as a group, set the precedent and stress more can be gained if more is offered, and don't cave into the moment, it may very well "move the needle" to our favor. They need us for their very survival. It's time we use the power we really have for our advantage. It really is a win win outcome. Just my opinion.
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[QUOTE=Cook72;4953811]Interesting, so they really have no motivation to up their game. Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]Everyone is free to do their own thing, not judging. I just don't run into this self service bs anywhere other than FW. I was always curious as to how so many here stay in business, if these places were busy or not and if the girls were satisfied with income. For me if I want a good massage I go to an LMT, If I want sensual and HJ I go to an AMP, if I want FS I go to an escort or perhaps a shop in certain cities, if just want to see young perky tits I go to a strip club and if I want to jackoff I do it free with porn. So I didn't see much value in the SS places and therefore wondered how they were all staying in business and why they weren't improving their offerings. I guess the simple answer is that there are apparently enough guys who find value in the SS places and as long as that is the case then they have no incentive to up their game. As they say, different strokes for different folks. Keep sharing, be safe and have fun.
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Bright Day
Was going to venture to Bright Day tomorrow. I have been reading that the "Picker" is there!! I found out a couple times that "NO" and "STOP" mean nothing to her. I swore if I ever have the misfortune of having her again I was not going to be so passive. I think I will kick her like a horse and put her through the wall into the next room! Involuntary reflex. Sorry.
Is she in fact still at BD?
Also there were a couple reports (2215,2235) about a new, short, pretty, thin younger girl but no name given. The posters were asked a couple times the name but they never responded. Is the new girl still at BD? What is her name?
Thanks.
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Walk away
[QUOTE=Hardon56;4956215]Was going to venture to Bright Day tomorrow. I have been reading that the "Picker" is there!! I found out a couple times that "NO" and "STOP" mean nothing to her. I swore if I ever have the misfortune of having her again I was not going to be so passive. I think I will kick her like a horse and put her through the wall into the next room! Involuntary reflex. Sorry.
Is she in fact still at BD?
Also there were a couple reports (2215,2235) about a new, short, pretty, thin younger girl but no name given. The posters were asked a couple times the name but they never responded. Is the new girl still at BD? What is her name?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]When you guys get the picker why don't you request someone else or leave? I have done that many times at AMPs, including at BD when I used to go there for glasses girl. I request who I want or perhaps don't want. Your the customer, it's your $. Maybe these places would get rid of the dead weight if they lose income.
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Ss
[QUOTE=Cook72;4953811]Interesting, so they really have no motivation to up their game. Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]60/20 MAX, for SS, UNLESS they gave you a great massage and you feel like a million bucks when you head out the door. Then the extra. 2 is due, . 3 if your wow'ed. But If you are handling it yourself & it's just a so so rub, then. 20 is all they should / would get from me. Sure they'l ask for more, but just make it clear what its for and next time just might be different. My experiance and fy wyn was handy after a bit of back and forth. UTC (just th top) too. So, Be kind. Be friendly and repeating usally helps (because they get t know you). Thats my two cents. SB is much bettr as most provide the extr effort without much haggling. But no FS here either. Like kville though. Little pricy but fulfilled everytime. Table showers are the best too. Wish we had some of those in SB. Love leaving clean and fully relaxed.
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Sunny spa
Went to Sunny spa got an hour massage two girls working one I've had before nice looking kind of short the other one was tall and very skinny the tall skinny girl gave me my massage little hard to understand it's OK she started on my back and shortly the other girl came in and did some pretty good teasing asked if I wanted forehand massage told her not this time she said OK And left the room leaving me with the skinny girl to do my massage massage was the right pressure and she did a pretty good job but she worked on my back and legs for 15 minutes before the flip as I turned over she told me that I had 10 minutes left and if I wanted oil for self-serve the part of it wasn't cool 50 minutes working on my back is not what I expected so if you go to Sonny's bar try to get the other lady.
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First time Elegant visit
With the COVID going around, I have taken a 4 month break from visiting any AMP. I've been from Indy to Michigan and from Michigan City to the Fort. Overall, I would say that Elegant is about average. I choose that over the other AMP's that have the table shower as I don't like having the chills after the wash. I do like the sauna at Kendalville just for that reason. Not sure what all the fuss was about Elegant being so great. There were a couple 40-50 year old ladies in there that didn't understand any English at all. It was an okay experience for the standard rub and tug, but I think that South Bend has better offerings. Even so, I won't go back to South Bend until this is completely over.
OH.
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[QUOTE=OctelHunt;4960461]With the COVID going around, I have taken a 4 month break from visiting any AMP. I've been from Indy to Michigan and from Michigan City to the Fort. Overall, I would say that Elegant is about average. I choose that over the other AMP's that have the table shower as I don't like having the chills after the wash. I do like the sauna at Kendalville just for that reason. Not sure what all the fuss was about Elegant being so great. There were a couple 40-50 year old ladies in there that didn't understand any English at all. It was an okay experience for the standard rub and tug, but I think that South Bend has better offerings. Even so, I won't go back to South Bend until this is completely over.
OH.[/QUOTE]Not sure anyone said Elegant was great. Elegant isn't great, just one of the better that FW has to offer. Jenny understands English okay and is the best at Elegant, perhaps she was not there. There are some okay places in the midwest and certainly some with better offerings than Elegant. But IMHO, if you want great then you will need to travel outside of the areas you mentioned. By the way, the strip clubs in FW aren't great either nor is the selection of escorts.
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Made a recent trip to Harmony and was pleasantly surprised with a decent massage. Didn't get the name, but she was tall and skinny. Managed to get some very good roaming milage due to a pair of shorts and a lack of undergarments. It's nice to see some improvement over there as I had generally been avoiding it since glasses left.
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100%
[QUOTE=Cook72;4960939]Not sure anyone said Elegant was great. Elegant isn't great, just one of the better that FW has to offer. Jenny understands English okay and is the best at Elegant, perhaps she was not there. There are some okay places in the midwest and certainly some with better offerings than Elegant. But IMHO, if you want great then you will need to travel outside of the areas you mentioned. By the way, the strip clubs in FW aren't great either nor is the selection of escorts.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with all the points Cook made. The AMP and strip club action was never that good in Ft. Wayne but the escort quality has went down dramatically over the last 10 yrs. Since I don't travel for work much anymore and I'm relegated primarily to the Ft Wayne area, I have cut way back on the play time. If I had more time, I would drive to Indy or Cincy.
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[QUOTE=Cook72;4960939]Not sure anyone said Elegant was great. Elegant isn't great, just one of the better that FW has to offer. Jenny understands English okay and is the best at Elegant, perhaps she was not there. There are some okay places in the midwest and certainly some with better offerings than Elegant. But IMHO, if you want great then you will need to travel outside of the areas you mentioned. By the way, the strip clubs in FW aren't great either nor is the selection of escorts.[/QUOTE]Exactly. FW doesn't have much to offer. There is much better luck in Indy or Michigan.
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Bright Day
Finally decided to try my first go at an AMP. Hit bright day in the evening yesterday and was greeted by the Picker. I took Cook72's advice in requesting someone else, so I asked for Annie as per the advice of several people in this thread.
The picker took me into a room and asked for the money. I gave her 60, as I wasn't sure when to give the tip, and she asked for more so I gave her the other 40. I asked for Annie again and she nodded yes. I laid down and she started picking away on my back, I said "I want Annie" and she said "Annie not here". I said "I only come here for Annie" so she asked for 20 more. It took a little back and forth but I stuck my ground in paying 100 flat.
Finally she submitted and told me to wait 10 min. Boy, was I glad I waited. Annie came in and greeted me, got to work right away. She's small with a great toned little ass and some nice C-cups. The massage she gave me was actually very good, very relaxing. I did shiver a little for the first half because it was a bit cold in the room. When she got down to my rear end she started teasing me, and I slowly made my way up onto all fours and she got right to work. She asked me to turn over after a few minutes of that position. She allowed OTC roaming everywhere, but only let me do a few seconds of UTC down low before asking for more $$. Sadly I grabbed the wrong stack of dough and didn't have any more on me. But I finally popped while rubbing her down low and looking into her eyes. What a great finish.
Overall very satisfied with my time. Happy to join the fam!
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Harmony
Been lurking on this forum for a while. Advice has always been very helpful and I'm sure has kept me out of trouble. This is the first time I'm posting because this is the first time I've had anything new to contribute!
Went to Harmony yesterday. Got an hour. Masseur was the right size and looked good in her yoga pants. Good massage. The right amount of teasing. I finished happy and she took her time to clean me up before giving me a hug and bottle of water.
Nice clean place. Highly recommend. (Not that the new guy's recommendation is worth much). .
Thanks again for all the info!
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[QUOTE=TrollHelper;4964767]Exactly. FW doesn't have much to offer. There is much better luck in Indy or Michigan.[/QUOTE]True, there are better in Indy and select locations in Michigan, but they are not great either. I suppose the famous Mikki as well as Hanna are considered great but hell Mikki must be close to 60 now and Hanna a good size middle aged lady. Neither are my cup of tea. Some descent places in Grand Rapids but you have to kind of get lucky. A few years ago there was an American spa in Jackson that was damn good, but it is no longer. Phoenix in Indy is pretty good but Indy has a good escort scene so might as well partake if in town. Now if you want great AMPs then I think you are talking Dallas, Orlando, Miami, Tampa as well as some out east. In those towns you can get the FS with a young 20 something super hot girl and in some cases the PSE Mikki experience at less than half the age. In town here, Elegant has one lady I would see and that is Jenny, the others are unattractive, the rub not as good and the HJ mechanical. Jenny gives a nice relaxing and teasing rub and if you tell her what you like you can get the best HJ around here. Up there with Kitty Katarina, although Kitty's HJ really involves more than hands. Not sure why a BJ or FS is so hard to come by in this town at the AMPs, a HJ makes them just as guilty as a BJ or FS. I suppose they think it makes them less of a target. It would be nice if Elegant had a table shower. Sounds like Annie at BD is a good choice but also sounds like milage is low unless you are kicking in more $, at some point you might as well see an escort.
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[QUOTE=Cook72;4966637]Not sure why a BJ or FS is so hard to come by in this town at the AMPs, a HJ makes them just as guilty as a BJ or FS.[/QUOTE]Many see HJ's as not prostitution morally and some don't like actual sex outside of marriage. I'm not surprised since many here are in their 40's and raised outside the USA. A lot of the providers the same age also see all oral sex as disgusting (giving or receiving). It's cultural differences.