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[QUOTE=Marlowe]Dude,

These girls are PEOPLE too, not just human blow up dolls that exist only for your pleasure!

Did it ever occur to you that in the time that it took you to get there, her circumstances had changed due to:

1) Boyfriend (ignorant of what she is doing) showed up unexpectedly.
2) Pimp showed up and wanted what's his, NOW.
3) Family member showed up unexpectedly.
4) Female situation (if you don't know, you probably do think they are blow up dolls).

I think that flaming her because YOU had one negative experience, as opposed to the positive experiences with her posted by Baldy and others is out of line. The f*cking world does not revolve around you!!![/QUOTE]Marlowe, don't be a kiss ass. I don't think she will give you a freebie no matter how big a kiss ass you are. Read Rookies again. She hould have tolh him that she was busy if it was indeed the case. Obviously she spoke to him on the phone.

Rule #1, don't be a kiss ass.

Rule #2, don't insult your fellow "mongers".

This is a very interesting and sticky one. I have mixed feelings as the exact same thing happened to me last night, the third time in a week with providers that had some positive feedback somewhere. Everything was the same, I actually arranged the meeting with a provider the day before, she told me she would be available. I called her the next evening, left a voicemail thinking maybe she wasn't available and told her I was sorry I missed her and asked her to call me and we could possibly set up something in the future. She called back a few minutes later, told me she was available and I told her I could be there in 30 minutes, she told me that was cool. I called her when I got to the area and of course same thing....voicemail, called a few more times within 30 minutes in case she was on a call but still nothing but voicemail!! Now if you guys think about that, a 30 minute drive on a weekend night is a long distance like the Valley to LAX or West LA to the OC. Had a couple of backups but of course I had not scheduled anthing with them (didn't want to flake on them) and they were not available. Had to come home and start from scratch, seeing who was available so yes I was highly pissed off. Yes Marlowe things do come up but wouldn't it make more sense for a provider to simply answer the phone, tell the guy that something did come up, apologize and offer to make it up to him next time. Is that too much to ask? And that will also end the numerous calls and bashing she will receive on sites like this and CL. It doesn't take a Harvard MBA to realize that is bad business and NOBODY likes to get hung up on, if that was the case she had a perfect opportunity to at least give him a believable lie!! I think we are beating up on Rookie9183 a bit too much, isn't this site about providing info on the service providers give? If the provider in question realizes that if she does this people will know about it, she can be questioned about it and if it did in fact happened maybe she will handle the situation differently next time. I've been stood up by several providers before but until last week all of them called, apologized and I was able to see them later and had a great time with them all.
[QUOTE=Marlowe]Dude,

These girls are PEOPLE too, not just human blow up dolls that exist only for your pleasure!

Did it ever occur to you that in the time that it took you to get there, her circumstances had changed due to:

1) Boyfriend (ignorant of what she is doing) showed up unexpectedly.
2) Pimp showed up and wanted what's his, NOW.
3) Family member showed up unexpectedly.
4) Female situation (if you don't know, you probably do think they are blow up dolls).

I think that flaming her because YOU had one negative experience, as opposed to the positive experiences with her posted by Baldy and others is out of line. The f*cking world does not revolve around you!!![/QUOTE]


Originally Posted by Rookie9183
First of all, I have to repeat what everyone says: Baldy, you are so cool, easy going, friendly on the board, and helpful with your posts. What I am going to say next is not a reflection on you, it is just factful information I experienced that was very negative about a girl that was very good to you multiple times, but very uncool to me.

I called Mylee, the short girl you and OC talked about, on Friday night. Tried to hook up with her. At first she seemed nice, called me sweetie or honey and told me exactly where she was staying. Then I tell her I will be there in 30 minutes, get there in 30 minutes and she won't answer her phone when I don't block my number but answers it when I block my number. I try to ask her to come down or give me her room number and she hangs up. I try this like 3 times and when I call with my number showing it goes to voice mail and I try to ask her what, if anything I did to change her mind. I mentioned Baldy spoke highly about her and that I just wanted to see her and had more roses than what she was asking for. When she finally answered after the 3rd time while I am there she says she is no longer working. I ask her why did she tell me 30 minutes before to drive 30 minutes to her. She just hangs up.

Very uncool.

Just thought I would share this experience with this board and hopefully people will stay away from her (unless they want to waste their time also) and hopefully she will change. I may flag her posts on Craigslist. I am still pissed. All she had to do was not schedule me.

Anyway, Baldy, if you are reading this I would love to buy you a beer and who knows maybe golf with you one time. I have been to KH8 a couple of times (after learning about it from you) and have enjoyed my times there. I have never gone with a buddy as my buddies all have relationships and can't go to places like KH. Anyway, if you tell me when you will be there (other than this Monday or Tuesday), I will buy you a beer or two. It is the least I could do for all of the info and entertainment you have provided me.

Hope you are bangin' some hot chick right now.

Rookie

I just think that his reaction was too extreme, that a short term monger doesn't have the right to explode on a provider with good reviews on the basis of what happened to him.

All of us have had unproductive trips that began with a promising phone call, and we didn't go off the deep end.

Keep your cool and remember that providers are people too was the only message I was trying to send.

[QUOTE=Baldy Cruiser]WOW!!! I am a 51 year old goof ball & bangin an 18 year old hottie is what Rocks My World Baby!!!!
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Chicks like this are few and far between, but occasionally you do hit the jackpot. I had a very cute 24 y/o once for $40 it was worth 4x that. She wasn't as hot as this one though...got bless the mf'ing hobbying lifestyle..

It sounds like others have had some issues with her, but many of these girls are YMMV. I had an amazing time with one a few weeks ago and then I saw her again and the service was just lacking, big time. I wouldn't jump through hoops to see your girl, but I'd try it at least once.

I hear you man, I just think we are sometimes too quick to dismiss a negative report on a provider. We need to hold them accountable. On another site, one of the providers that stood me up replied to a thread, a guy basically told her I was an asshole and needed to move on. She replied to him and said it was her fault, I was a gentleman and she just fucked up and planned on making it up to me.


[QUOTE=Marlowe]I just think that his reaction was too extreme, that a short term monger doesn't have the right to explode on a provider with good reviews on the basis of what happened to him.

All of us have had unproductive trips that began with a promising phone call, and we didn't go off the deep end.

Keep your cool and remember that providers are people too was the only message I was trying to send.[/QUOTE]

I think you just scare her. She is just 18 yo and there is a lot of assholes hanging around. Every time she meet new customer she takes a risk. I had great time with her. I think as much you pushed her to get appointment then more you scare her. Probably she won’t stay same hotel next time, which sucks since it is a good and safe neighborhood.

[QUOTE=Rookie9183]First of all, I have to repeat what everyone says: Baldy, you are so cool, easy going, friendly on the board, and helpful with your posts. What I am going to say next is not a reflection on you, it is just factful information I experienced that was very negative about a girl that was very good to you multiple times, but very uncool to me.

I called Mylee, the short girl you and OC talked about, on Friday night. Tried to hook up with her. At first she seemed nice, called me sweetie or honey and told me exactly where she was staying. Then I tell her I will be there in 30 minutes, get there in 30 minutes and she won't answer her phone when I don't block my number but answers it when I block my number. I try to ask her to come down or give me her room number and she hangs up. I try this like 3 times and when I call with my number showing it goes to voice mail and I try to ask her what, if anything I did to change her mind. I mentioned Baldy spoke highly about her and that I just wanted to see her and had more roses than what she was asking for. When she finally answered after the 3rd time while I am there she says she is no longer working. I ask her why did she tell me 30 minutes before to drive 30 minutes to her. She just hangs up.

Very uncool.

Just thought I would share this experience with this board and hopefully people will stay away from her (unless they want to waste their time also) and hopefully she will change. I may flag her posts on Craigslist. I am still pissed. All she had to do was not schedule me.

Anyway, Baldy, if you are reading this I would love to buy you a beer and who knows maybe golf with you one time. I have been to KH8 a couple of times (after learning about it from you) and have enjoyed my times there. I have never gone with a buddy as my buddies all have relationships and can't go to places like KH. Anyway, if you tell me when you will be there (other than this Monday or Tuesday), I will buy you a beer or two. It is the least I could do for all of the info and entertainment you have provided me.

Hope you are bangin' some hot chick right now.

Rookie[/QUOTE]

These girls do flake on you sometimes, I agree tell me a lie just don't hang up in my face. But when dealing with 18,19,20 year olds who don't have a lot of
life experience some don't treat the clients like they should. But once again in this hobby YMMV applies to every encounter.

[QUOTE=Rick One]Marlowe, don't be a kiss ass. I don't think she will give you a freebie no matter how big a kiss ass you are. Read Rookies again. She hould have tolh him that she was busy if it was indeed the case. Obviously she spoke to him on the phone.

Rule #1, don't be a kiss ass.

Rule #2, don't insult your fellow "mongers".[/QUOTE]Rick One, you hit that right on the head.

Marlowe, if you want to make a point, and you feel it is legitimate, you could do so without trying to be insulting towards a fellow hobbyist.

I don't want to get into a pissing match, if that is the level that you are on, but my personal opinion is that dude was dead on right about his expectations.

If she booked an appointment with him, and then flaked like that, there is NO excuse.

No matter how hard you grasp at straws, and apply tortured logic, this is a business, and what she did was totally fuck off this dude and his time.

So now the question is raised -

Why is it that YOU are asking a fellow hobbyist to put up with this kind of bs from a provider?

That's like asking someone to put up with terrible customer service at a place of business. It makes no sense.

[QUOTE=Rookie9183]First of all, I have to repeat what everyone says: Baldy, you are so cool, easy going, friendly on the board, and helpful with your posts. What I am going to say next is not a reflection on you, it is just factful information I experienced that was very negative about a girl that was very good to you multiple times, but very uncool to me.

I called Mylee, the short girl you and OC talked about, on Friday night. Tried to hook up with her. At first she seemed nice, called me sweetie or honey and told me exactly where she was staying. Then I tell her I will be there in 30 minutes, get there in 30 minutes and she won't answer her phone when I don't block my number but answers it when I block my number. I try to ask her to come down or give me her room number and she hangs up. I try this like 3 times and when I call with my number showing it goes to voice mail and I try to ask her what, if anything I did to change her mind. I mentioned Baldy spoke highly about her and that I just wanted to see her and had more roses than what she was asking for. When she finally answered after the 3rd time while I am there she says she is no longer working. I ask her why did she tell me 30 minutes before to drive 30 minutes to her. She just hangs up.

Very uncool.

Just thought I would share this experience with this board and hopefully people will stay away from her (unless they want to waste their time also) and hopefully she will change. I may flag her posts on Craigslist. I am still pissed. All she had to do was not schedule me.

Anyway, Baldy, if you are reading this I would love to buy you a beer and who knows maybe golf with you one time. I have been to KH8 a couple of times (after learning about it from you) and have enjoyed my times there. I have never gone with a buddy as my buddies all have relationships and can't go to places like KH. Anyway, if you tell me when you will be there (other than this Monday or Tuesday), I will buy you a beer or two. It is the least I could do for all of the info and entertainment you have provided me.

Hope you are bangin' some hot chick right now.

Rookie[/QUOTE]

i had same experience w/Mylee as you. but a bit different as i was in the area anyway (ie: i did not drive all the way to glendale for her - that was your mistake, IMHO)

i was frustrated like you. got basically lied to, like you by a very flaky chick. well, that's life. these girls are nearly all crazy and that's just the way the dice rolls sometimes. you take it too personally and trying to apply logic with these girls is an exercise in futility. if any of them had any sense they wouldn't be prostitutes to begin with.

at least you went home with that cash in your pocket - look at it that way.

as far as the "why do they act the way they do" thing - who cares. don't try to get inside their heads - it's just a giant waste of your time and energy.

i think the greater lesson is don't drive long distances to see these girls. if you happen to be in an area, cool --- otherwise stick to local (ie: within 5 miles if possible) providers.

my 2 cents.

Thought I'd ad my 2 cents to the "flake-out" discussion.....

Have you all noticed how many of the provider ads ask respondents "PLEASE BE SERIOUS!" Or, how for incalls, the "2-call plan" is usually in effect: "Call me AGAIN when you get there." This is because those (not us USSG guys of course! LOL) who make the calls to provider ads are a whole lot more "flakey" than the providers! Providers have told me that callers will ask a lot of questions, then make an appointment and don't ever show. This is why the provider asks a caller to confirm that they've arrived at the incall location before giving the details. At least for the first time callers.

I've asked a lot of providers about this and some have said that MOST of the callers who make an appointment never show up!

So, while it's true that it's a common thing for us to make an appointment, drive to a location and then get the voicemail....the knife cuts both ways! And from what I gather from my favorite providers, the monger side of the equation is a lot more "flakey" than the providers side.

Like someone has already said, YMMV. You can never be absolutely certain your appointment will be honored. Lower your expectations. Accept delays and wasted time as part of the deal. This is the cost of doing business!

My own rules: Don't drive too far to see a first-time provider. Avoid driving the 405 during rush hour for a first time appointment. And if you do, be sure you have a few other numbers on hand for the area.

RelaXXX,

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Since it appears that this is something that has happened before, maybe somebody who has seen her that she trusts can give her some advice in dealing with hobbyists, I have seen some providers lie like a rug when I was with them but never have problems, one girl said watch this as she answered her phone and told a hobbyist someone told her Pastor what she was doing and he was there now doing an intervention and passed me the fucking phone, the poor guy hung up as soon as I said hello!! She said she saw him later that week. If she is a solid provider as some have indicated she should know that these things do surface and may affect her rep. Oh some guys have no choice to make a drive, all you can do is have a lot of backups if you travel long distances and frequent an area where there are a large concentration of providers.

[QUOTE=Monster Cock]i had same experience w/Mylee as you. but a bit different as i was in the area anyway (ie: i did not drive all the way to glendale for her - that was your mistake, IMHO)

i was frustrated like you. got basically lied to, like you by a very flaky chick. well, that's life. these girls are nearly all crazy and that's just the way the dice rolls sometimes. you take it too personally and trying to apply logic with these girls is an exercise in futility. if any of them had any sense they wouldn't be prostitutes to begin with.

at least you went home with that cash in your pocket - look at it that way.

as far as the "why do they act the way they do" thing - who cares. don't try to get inside their heads - it's just a giant waste of your time and energy.

i think the greater lesson is don't drive long distances to see these girls. if you happen to be in an area, cool --- otherwise stick to local (ie: within 5 miles if possible) providers.

my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]

I must share my disappointment with Mylee flaking on me. I called her, we greeted each other, she said "134 exit on Pacific."

I do a bunch of second calls halfway there and I get voicemail after first ring. Too bad. I know that flaking comes with the game sometimes, but damn was I blue balled.

Oh well. I'll try again. Hopefully she comes back to town soon.

And baldy, thanks again. You are god-king of us.

[QUOTE=Marlowe]I just think that his reaction was too extreme, that a short term monger doesn't have the right to explode on a provider with good reviews on the basis of what happened to him.

All of us have had unproductive trips that began with a promising phone call, and we didn't go off the deep end.

Keep your cool and remember that providers are people too was the only message I was trying to send.[/QUOTE]You're being unfair to rookie. So far we've had 4 people chime in and said they've had a similar experience in dealing with mylee. Rookie was frustrated and had every reason to vent seeing as though this is a message board and we are all sharing information.

First of all, I would like to stay POSITIVE in my posts and I thank Dac 007, Rick One, and others who stayed positive with their posts. Marlowe, I have been reading this board since April (I didn't know it existed before then), but I have mongered off an on for 17 years. I am not a new monger. Even if I was, I have gained insight from this board. Both positive and negative info, but most of the time it was valuable info. I was just trying to add valuable info. Baldy's post made her sound great (and I would guess she was great for Baldy), but I didn't want her to keep her great repuation after her disrespect to me. I try to ALWAYS respect these women as human beings and try to be nice to them. But, I expect respect back. She flaked on me and could have apologized (believe it or not I would have accepted a sincere apology and not criticized her) or she could have lied and said something like Marlowe said maybe happened, but she didn't. She flaked AND was a *****. I thought the members of this board would appreciate this info and it sounds like some did. I would not have tried to see her had I first read negative info on her and I just tried to spare others the same bad experience, or at least warn them I had been treated poorly.

Again, thank you to the guys that I mentioned who were supportive of my post. I'd like to think that most of us on this site are a team. That's why we say, TOFTT.

Yes, I was pissed (as one person posted), but AFTER she flaked AND was a *****. So, I didn't cause her to be who she was.

Anyway, Marlowe, I have appreciated your posts in the past and I am going to try and contribute to this board going forward, and I am not going to hate on you. But, I wouldn't have insulted you or anyone if they put up a negative post about a provider, and I kinda feel you owe me an apology. That said, I'm not going to lose sleep over it either way, but if I called someone a dumb MF after they tried to provide info to me, well, I'd apologize, but that's just me.

Thanks again to everyone who is POSITIVE on this board.

My 2 cents.

Rookie

I'm personally amazed that anyone would defend providers that flake.

I know that a lot of guys flake on providers, but two wrongs don't make a right. Just because guys flake on them, doesn't mean it's OK in return.

There's an old saying that the customer is always right. While that can be taken to the extreme, a tit for tat attitude is not professional.

Personally, I have found that provider flaking on craigslist has gotten way out of control recently. I'm finding at least 2/3 of the time that I get flaked on.

That's a lot of time wasted, and IMO if providers are gonna waste our time and jerk us around like civies, then there really is no reason to see them. The
supposed advantage of seeing providers IMO, is that it's a way to get some female interaction without all the drama of having a GF.

Therefore, I would strongly argue that providers that flake or play games or produce drama should be outed. Let the customer decide if he wants to deal with it. Knowledge is power. Please don't supress it.