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Have any of you met cielo in Manassas. I planned to visit her but at the time she was working out of a home and wouldn't provide an address until immediately before the massage. Since then she claims she works out of an office, but is only available 5-9 pm.
Sorry for the double post, I had hit the wrong button.
[QUOTE=Vamonger;6196938]Yes that was HWC. Always good times. HWC and Sakura/ Rte 1 Potomac were my go to locations. Rte 1 Potomac still up and running through the highs and lows. I think HWC may have been Health Wellness Center.[/QUOTE]I read this post and couldn't remember the other one I frequented when living in Lake Ridge. But now I remember. HWC had the best line ups. The girls would flirt with you for a good 10-15 secs to get your attention. The other place was off of Occoquon Road and the name was Kinja Accupressure I believe. Mamasan was not too old and she was hot. She also had a vibrator that she would play with herself when doing the deed. Anyone else remember this? Am I getting the name right? The stand alone house looking place from years ago?
[QUOTE=SexyD;6236588]Nude, touch / suck tits, touch kitty, etc are normally considered to be part of standard.
NOVA. If I get to give oral than I will pay a little more. For what you are paying, you should be getting FS or BBFS (if that is your thing). Once you give a provider more than normal, you reset her price expectations for everyone and although she may eventually accept less, it will never be done enthusiastically.[/QUOTE]Maybe in your world, all those extras are part of standard NOVA but for the vast majority, standard is a HJ and maybe some roaming. Anything more is above the norm.
Maybe you'd like to share your secret for success.
I saw candy no pain no gain again, been almost two years. Not sure if my memory failed me or it's an older and thicker replacement but she was not like I remembered. Decent massage, I'd say above average. On a bed not a table but I think she mentioned she has one. Paid the $$$ for FS which I regret. Yes she has amazing tits but like someone said very flat nipples. I was really looking forward to this since last time I did not do FS bc that's not my thing but in my mind I thought she was a lot hotter. It's the same phone number bc I still had our conversation from way back but honestly I'm not sure if it was the same girl. She was super nice and and into it I just wasn't feeling it as I had my expectations up high.
The biggest thing to share though was I had to wait a few minutes past my time to enter her place and she shorted me 15 on the backend so a total of 20 minutes shorted for that price. Not worth it, will not repeat. Stupid head of mine won this battle tonight LOL.
Judging by her photos she is either working with the other dmv latinas, or stealing their ad copy! I have the same questions.
[QUOTE=Mike85;6237219]Have any of you met cielo in Manassas. I planned to visit her but at the time she was working out of a home and wouldn't provide an address until immediately before the massage. Since then she claims she works out of an office, but is only available 5-9 pm.
Sorry for the double post, I had hit the wrong button.[/QUOTE]
The secret is to have some self respect about yourself and your money. If a provider doesn't provide what I consider minimal access, then I get up and walk and never return. The providers know the job they are in and what that requires. Access to BJ and FS of course vary by the individual and are totally optional. It makes me laugh when adult men are bragging about how they got some OTC action with a 65 year old granny. You are a consumer of a business service, they are a provider of a business service. You wouldn't patronize a restaurant that never served the meal that you desire would you so why accept less with this?
[QUOTE=NyHornet;6237662]Maybe in your world, all those extras are part of standard NOVA but for the vast majority, standard is a HJ and maybe some roaming. Anything more is above the norm.
Maybe you'd like to share your secret for success.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheDrowned;6237090]I know it's been a while since I've posted. My thirst for new horizons hasn't halted but I find myself being less loose lipped on parading my adventures.
But in any case I will divulge a few tales on my journey to the nicknamed DMV Latinas that work out of a place in Francoinia headed by Magi who has been reviewed here previously.[/QUOTE]Would you mind sharing the name of the place in Franconia or a link? I have never had a Latina MT (yet) and $.3 with an average back rub is still better than some AMPs I've visited.
[QUOTE=SexyD;6237981]The secret is to have some self respect about yourself and your money. If a provider doesn't provide what I consider minimal access, then I get up and walk and never return. You are a consumer of a business service, they are a provider of a business service. You wouldn't patronize a restaurant that never served the meal that you desire would you so why accept less with this?[/QUOTE]You make some valid points regarding having self respect and knowing what one is willing to pay.
In the past I have shelled out more than normal rates for standard NOVA along with seeing and touch some skin. This was due to a combination of being naive to going rates and mentality from what I was "taught" about the bar girls in Korea back in '81. This has changed of late. Tired of walking out of an MP thinking I just spent $$+ for a HJ that I can do alone for free. LOL.
Visited a little reviewed AMP yesterday and drew a line in sand when it came to what I paid versus what she wanted; will post review soon.
Point being, you hit the nail on the head: have some self respect and know what your willing to pay for what you're craving that day.
Two rules I've established are: do the negotiations up front (before the flip), and pay with cash for what I want and receive.
In reference to 65 year old granny, Nana at Enliven offered and gave a lot for less than 2 Ben Franklin's. Might have finished with HJ but what she did to get me there was well worth it and less than what others want for same services.
[QUOTE=TheDrowned;6237090]I know it's been a while since I've posted. My thirst for new horizons hasn't halted but I find myself being less loose lipped on parading my adventures.
But in any case I will divulge a few tales on my journey to the nicknamed DMV latinas that work out of a place in Francoinia headed by Magi who has been reviewed here previously.
Magi: I'll start with the captain of the crew. She's in her 40's. I think she's Mexican. She is hard to describe as she is not necessarily a spinner but not wholly unattractive either. She's ok. Dark curly hair and usually works in a sports bra and yoga pants. 90 $ for a massage with upgrades available for another $40. Her technique is ok, mainly just a rub with oil. On the flip she will offer a standard HJ and lift open her top and let you play with her boobs for $130 all in. Her boobs are ok. Enough to generate the pop out of me. They're not too big not too small. Average. I haven't been able to get more out of her than just the standard. But I've only seen her twice because I got the feeling things wouldn't improve. She's ok truly a 5/10 on all scales. It's a balanced visit. A safe bet if you don't like rolling the dice.
Alex: she's from Bolivia. 28, young looking but on the heavier side. She is only available on sundays and mondays. She gives another oily body rub. A mediocre massage with a flip. It's only Standard NOVA with her. Same price point as Maggie. Mostly OTC roaming if she likes you tho after a couple of visits, I got her to allow some UTC roaming and feel her nipples. They're ok. Kinda on the small side which is a disadvantage for her since she's chubbier than the other ladies. To her credit she has good HJ technique. I'd argue the best of the three, but I don't think it's enough to win over most folks here on the board. She's a sweetheart though.
Alis: Easily the hottest of the bunch. I think she's from Guatemala? Or Nicaragua? I could be mistaken but she's Central American. She's 24, total spinner, into hiking and fitness and has an ass that can kill. Juicy, bubbly, and begging for a spank. Unfortunately, she's the most prude of the bunch. Her massage isn't much better than the gals I previously mentioned but Alis can get by on looks. She works evenings there. I've seen her about 4 times now and can see she's a bit confusing, because 2/4 times I've been able to sneak into her bra and get her to show me her boobs. Tiny but gorgeous. She's got a body that turns me on. But on my last visit she wouldn't let me see them, despite showing it to me with no problem last time. So I don't know what gives I guess you have to luck out and get her when she's horny or something. She won't do more than the HJ but that's ok I just imagine me plowing her juicy ass and it's enough to get me to explode all over her hands. That being said, I just wish she was more consistent. She's also more $$ and charges $160 for the all in.
I think there's another lady who works there but I haven't had the chance to see her.
But there's my intel on the DMV latinas for Franconia.
Water forgets the names of TheDrowned.[/QUOTE]I like your review; it was thoroughly researched. I can see now why we haven't heard from you in such long time. I was missing your informative reviews and was wondering what happened. I would like to pose a question to such an experienced and esteemed member of this forum. "What MP is your favorite 10/10"? What woman is the basis for your comparison, determine the 5/10 rating for Magi's crew? Don't go back to far as many of us are new members and may not find relevance in your answer.
Regards,
For those that are interested or would like to chime in, below are my picks:
1). Linda at Angel Fairfax is my 10/10. I knew her when she was Sissy at King Spa back in early 2019. Her presentation, the way she greeted you all dolled up in a see-through negligee was just stunning. When I reconnected with her years later as Linda at Angel Fairfax, I didn't recognize her, but she is still my 10. Last visit was this past February.
2). My second favorite is Cindy, formally of Reston Wellness. This is one beautiful woman, maybe 45 years old with a very pretty face, long thick health hair, a gorgeous body with a pair of 36 DD. Great personality with a wonderful laugh. Her only drawback was a very flat rear end. If you can get past that she is a 10 in my book. Have-not seen her in a year.
3). My third pick is a woman named Nana; she worked at " The New Paradise " on Franconia, (now Queen). Nana was young, maybe 32 years old. She had one of the most perfect bodies that I have ever seen. Maybe 5'7 tall, 36 C's bordering on D's slender body but not skinny with a large booty, but perfectly proportioned. I would poke and stare at her body, I didn't think it was real, but it was all prime A natural. I saw her several times during the fall of 2018. She abruptly left early 2019. Never saw her again. Some on the board have mentioned a Nana that worked at Reston Wellness a while back. Might have been the same.
To conclude: I will admit that besides that three ladies above I have not met anyone that I would rate more than a 7/10, mostly 5's and 6's.
I shouldn't complain being an old Boomer.
[QUOTE=NyHornet;6237662]Maybe in your world, all those extras are part of standard NOVA but for the vast majority, standard is a HJ and maybe some roaming. Anything more is above the norm.
Maybe you'd like to share your secret for success.[/QUOTE]As with any hobby, there's not a lot of hand holding done to get newbies off on the right track. You kind of have to feel around (pun intended) and set your own rules and expectations because there's no moderation in this business both to its success and simultaneously it's detriment. What worked for me however, was that before I even ventured to my first AMP, I uncovered this website first and spent a good amount of my free time going through post after post and what the seniors call RTTF (reading through the forum) this helped me get a basic idea of what to expect at my visit and how much I should pay. But it didn't stop me from awkwardly tipping the MMS $10 as she was leading me out the door like some kind of Maitre 'D (it was awkward and thankfully I only ever made that mistake once) though some seniors even pointed out that back in the old days this kind of behavior was normal and sometimes even got you a better selection of ladies.
YMMV: your mileage may vary. The golden rule of mongering. The ladies aren't robots. Sure, some may have the personalities of one and streamline their services the same way to all men but most of the time Johnny Six-pack who dances his way into the AMP wearing his Corneliani and rolls a nat 20 on charisma is going to get better service for his dollar than 400 Pound Andy who shows up in sweatpants smelling like cigarettes and Doritos. It's a hyperbole sure but you need to course correct your expectations. The minimum is standard NOVA. A HJ with minimal roaming is the baseline any monger should expect with a typical "'massage" visit with anything more being an added bonus.
There's no wrong answer when it comes to tipping. It is afterall, well within your freedom to tip however much you please, but within reason. Anyone who tips $$ for a basic HE for instance is doing it wrong, period LOL.
A general guideline for me is this:
HE with minimal roaming (the bare minimum): $40.
HJ with revealing of breast and some breast play: $60.
Fully nude HJ with lots of mutual play / kissing, CBJ: $80-120 depending on a variety of factors, the age and sexiness of provider / the amount of services done / your overall enjoyment of the flip, ie: chemsitry.
BBBJ or CFS: 120-160 depending again on the same factors described. Now you may be inclined to tip more if you receive more or in order to develop a better relationship with the provider. I'm ok with going outside the baseline of the numbers I mentioned if it's within reason. I once paid $$$.5 to tip but it was for BBFS with a young provider. That was also the limit I set to myself. The highest I'm willing to pay for the service and it has to be the crme de la crme of services rendered with a bombshell of a provider.
It's all about setting expectations but also setting limits. I don't care how hot a provider is. I don't pay $100 for just a basic HJ, I may up it to 60 and use the NOVA+ bracket under the excuse the provider is hotter than baseline but I wouldn't go into CBJ / full nude play bracket for minimum service, I don't care how hot a provider is, I will walk away if quoted that much $ for service(and believe me I have). I can jerk off to better looking chicks on pornhub for free and get to the same endgame.
And again this is just the general guidelines that I follow when I monger you don't have to adopt them but also don't assume you can drop $. 60 tip to any provider and they're going to give you said service. A provider who only gives HJ to customers isn't suddenly going to do more just because you throw her extra bills. Even if Johnny Six-pack wrote a blazing review of the very same provider purporting he got BBFS for $$ all in. Expect the minimum but treat the bonuses with fair compensation. But don't go overboard and give $ tip for mediocre services either. Stay within the ballpark. Be nice, be polite, but also be smart with your money.
[QUOTE=Asphalt;6236104]A few days ago I crossed the Wilson Bridge into MD and went to get what I thought would be a massage and got a lot more. I left a report in the PG County section if anyone is interested.[/QUOTE]I read your review on the PG board. Well done, you literally went the extra mile in search of quality. There's been a lot of chatter lately on the NOVA forum regarding the quality, the better service and more reasonable rates on the PG side. May be worth a look. Might make a good winter project. I 'll be sure to post on the PG side only while noting reference to the review on the NOVA section. I don't want to attract the wrath of the more senior members.
Regards.
Anyone seen Vicky? Ad copy is similar to Apple in Tysons, so may be working with that crew.
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Its a YMMV situation like the other DMV Latinas. Seen her at the private house a few times, and at her new location. Done the dead several times but like anything, its a YMMV service. She has DD's and a fat ass. Pretty thick girl all around with a cute face. The latina girls at FHOH spa are far better looking IMHO.
[QUOTE=GripNSip;6238313]As with any hobby, there's not a lot of hand holding done to get newbies off on the right track. You kind of have to feel around (pun intended) and set your own rules and expectations because there's no moderation in this business both to its success and simultaneously it's detriment. .[/QUOTE]Very well said. Wish I had seen something Ike this when I started mongering back in late August. Didn't even discover this site until I had visited a few places and over tipped for services.
But your advice and payment schedule tips are great. Enough said.
[QUOTE=PuntaJaco43;6238328]I read your review on the PG board. Well done, you literally went the extra mile in search of quality. There's been a lot of chatter lately on the NOVA forum regarding the quality, the better service and more reasonable rates on the PG side. May be worth a look. Might make a good winter project. I 'll be sure to post on the PG side only while noting reference to the review on the NOVA section. I don't want to attract the wrath of the more senior members.
Regards.[/QUOTE]The Latina location chill and offers two attractive early to late 20's hard bodies. Both petite with different features.
Thanks again Asphalt.