First let me say I am very very new to this. I frequent ATL forums & others in the state to learn even though I am not really close most of them but they have more activity than my area, however I do travel a lot so I keep my eyes open. Is it normal operating procedure to give donations up front? I see people talking about loosing money or "getting it back". I have only done this 2 times in my life with the same UTR provider I found and was never asked to provide the donation until after all was said and done.