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[QUOTE=Kyle6002;1726296]If a cop discovers two people in a sex act, where is the proof that money was exchanged?[/QUOTE]A lot of guys use credit cards to pay and that is how they know money was exchanged. Jerry Springer got caught paying a hooker with a check.
I hear that with modern technology, LEO and the feds can monitor in real time the charges being made at any location.
Also, there are now devices that can see through walls. They can see you paying and playing. These devices are mounted in vans that are set up to be able to see through almost any wall. We are in a police state and everything is being monitored. : (
[QUOTE=Crazy Sammy;1728580]There you guys go again taking a dump in the pool. I think most of us are tired of all this bullshit.[/QUOTE]I for one say keep it up, lets all takea piss on a public building in warren.
Story on wkbndotcom. This is a real bullshit bust by Barney Fife and his all volunteer police department.
Happy Mongering
According to story on wkbndotcom this afternoon they found 206 condoms, $ 7, 898. 00, 246 bootleg cds and other things during the Rose Spa raid. Why do these spas always have a lot of cash on hand? You would think they would move the cash every day or so. They don't seem to be as smart as some people think.
Happy Mongering
[QUOTE=Frank69;1728817]I for one say keep it up, lets all takea piss on a public building in warren.[/QUOTE]According to story on tribtodaydotcom Sunny Spas lone licensed therapist is afraid of returning to work even if they are allowed to remain open until hearing.
Happy Mongering
Bookman, how about a link or two?
[QUOTE=Kyle6002;1731415]Bookman, how about a link or two?[/QUOTE]How about the link. Can't find this news worthy insight that you see or hear about.
[QUOTE=Kyle6002;1731415]Bookman, how about a link or two?[/QUOTE]Here are the links that Bookman left out of his posts with some extras from me.
First the links in reference to Sunny Spa:
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585316/Spa-faces-suspension.html[/url] (March 28th)
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585389/Warren-s-Sunny-Spa-can-make-its-case-in-April.html[/url] (March 30th)
[url]http://www.wkbn.com/2013/04/04/warren-spa-re-opened-for-now/[/url] (April 4th)
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585849/Spa--Search-illegal.html[/url] (April 9th)
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585896/Sunny-Spa-in-Warren-to-appeal-suspension.html[/url] (April 10th)
Here are the links for the Rose Spa:
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585860/Women-charged-in-raid.html[/url] (April 4th)
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585660/Spa-raided-for-2nd-time.html[/url] (April 5th)
[url]http://www.wkbn.com/2013/04/08/spa-manager-and-employee-face-prostitution-charges/[/url] (April 8th)
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585819/Mon--10-24am--Pair-arraigned-on-prostitution-counts.html[/url] (April 8th)
[url]http://www.wkbn.com/2013/04/09/cash-condoms-found-in-braceville-spa-raid/[/url] (April 9th)
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585860/Women-charged-in-raid.html[/url] (April 9th)
This should catch you guys up with everything from both the tribtoday. Com and wbkn. Com (Bookman's main sources of information) If you want, you can put the words "spa","massage","human trafficking" or "raid" to read about the other articles / news reports of the raids from last year to the present. Or even read the opinion columns written by the members of MVOD. Other sources include [url]www.vindy.com[/url] (the Youngstown Paper) and [url]http://www.wfmj.com/[/url] (the other Youngstown TV News Station).
[QUOTE=Amp Middleman;1731764]How about the link. Can't find this news worthy insight that you see or hear about.[/QUOTE]All you have to do is go to the website he mentions and look around a little. It isn't hard to find. I have never had a link and have always been able to find the AMP stories easily on one of the 2 sites frequently mentioned here.
Hey Guys, it is Carmella! I hope you all are well. I have encountered a stalker. This person went above and beyond to find out personal facts about me. I beg you not to share anything about me on here. I moved to a new secure incall and do not advertise a phone number. People already know me so I find that funny but threatening me is another story. Damn I am always to nice. Be safe and Have a great day!
Just saw the report about the recent spa shutdowns.
The women are 56 and 68 years old seem to be ancient to me.
Down in Florida, the women are a lot younger than that although I know that Asian women age better than most. But 56? Sheeeesh. Are all the women in the spas up here that old? Are they getting any business?
By me last night. Only car in the lot, front door was wide open. Didn't ring the bell, just waltzed inside like I've been there before. Sarah led me to the room, and I thought it would be a good idea to subject the new girl, Cherry to some interrogation. She didn't crack easily, but I have ways of getting what I'm after. Cherry is a real sweetheart of a person and could become my all time favorite. For everyone who raved about Cookie, including me, all I can say is that IMHO, Cherry is better!
Will be making a follow up compliance visit soon.
Tonto
[QUOTE=VampireWeekend; 1731838]Here are the links that Bookman left out of his posts with some extras from me.
First the links in reference to Sunny Spa:
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585316/Spa-faces-suspension.html[/url]
(March 28th)
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585389/Warren-s-Sunny-Spa-can-make-its-case-in-April.html[/url]
(March 30th)
[url]http://www.wkbn.com/2013/04/04/warren-spa-re-opened-for-now/[/url]
(April 4th)
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585849/Spa--Search-illegal.html[/url]
(April 9th)
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585896/Sunny-Spa-in-Warren-to-appeal-suspension.html[/url]
(April 10th)
Here are the links for the Rose Spa:
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585860/Women-charged-in-raid.html[/url]
(April 4th)
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585660/Spa-raided-for-2nd-time.html[/url]
(April 5th)
[url]http://www.wkbn.com/2013/04/08/spa-manager-and-employee-face-prostitution-charges/[/url]
(April 8th)
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585819/Mon--10-24am--Pair-arraigned-on-prostitution-counts.html[/url]
(April 8th)
[url]http://www.wkbn.com/2013/04/09/cash-condoms-found-in-braceville-spa-raid/[/url]
(April 9th)
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585860/Women-charged-in-raid.html[/url]
(April 9th)
This should catch you guys up with everything from both the tribtoday. Com and wbkn. Com (Bookman's main sources of information) If you want, you can put the words "spa","massage","human trafficking" or "raid" to read about the other articles / news reports of the raids from last year to the present. Or even read the opinion columns written by the members of MVOD. Other sources include.
[url]www.vindy.com[/url]
(the Youngstown Paper) and.
[url]http://www.wfmj.com/[/url]
(the other Youngstown TV News Station).[/QUOTE]LOL, nice work brother. You apparently have too much time on your hands. Shouldn't you be busy getting teriyaki sauce licked off your pecker?
Posted on tribtodaydotcom this morning. He stated there is 1 massage parlor left and his goal is 0 by next year. I would guess they will start harassing Tiger soon.
Happy Mongering
[QUOTE=Tonto Monger; 1732501]By me last night. Only car in the lot, front door was wide open. Didn't ring the bell, just waltzed inside like I've been there before. Sarah led me to the room, and I thought it would be a good idea to subject the new girl, Cherry to some interrogation. She didn't crack easily, but I have ways of getting what I'm after. Cherry is a real sweetheart of a person and could become my all time favorite. For everyone who raved about Cookie, including me, all I can say is that IMHO, Cherry is better!
Will be making a follow up compliance visit soon.
Tonto[/QUOTE]I might have to do a health inspection then. Especially since KiP is providing / plying them with donuts and coffee. They might be over their BMI limit and I might have to induce some stress test to see how well their performance and flexibility with all that extra sugar and calories. Maybe I'll put Cherry on top of my Mango Lassi and have a real frothy time. Better and creamier than a slip and slide.
Wow for all your bookmarked pages I would say you are following this very closely almost too close, but hey who cares. The only thing these girls were good at was spreading legs and giving gooood slippy slide showers.
Anyways for all your diligent work I would like to repay you for your time and if you are in the Orlando or NYC area hmu. I'll front you the front door money.
I was driving thru a week or two ago and I DO know sunny was open. Enjoyed my time and made my way out thru the dirty ass kitchen. Hopefully things get better soon for you all.
[QUOTE=VampireWeekend; 1731838]Here are the links that Bookman left out of his posts with some extras from me.
First the links in reference to Sunny Spa:
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585316/Spa-faces-suspension.html[/url]
(March 28th)
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585389/Warren-s-Sunny-Spa-can-make-its-case-in-April.html[/url]
(March 30th)
[url]http://www.wkbn.com/2013/04/04/warren-spa-re-opened-for-now/[/url]
(April 4th)
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585849/Spa--Search-illegal.html[/url]
(April 9th)
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585896/Sunny-Spa-in-Warren-to-appeal-suspension.html[/url]
(April 10th)
Here are the links for the Rose Spa:
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585860/Women-charged-in-raid.html[/url]
(April 4th)
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585660/Spa-raided-for-2nd-time.html[/url]
(April 5th)
[url]http://www.wkbn.com/2013/04/08/spa-manager-and-employee-face-prostitution-charges/[/url]
(April 8th)
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585819/Mon--10-24am--Pair-arraigned-on-prostitution-counts.html[/url]
(April 8th)
[url]http://www.wkbn.com/2013/04/09/cash-condoms-found-in-braceville-spa-raid/[/url]
(April 9th)
[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585860/Women-charged-in-raid.html[/url]
(April 9th)
This should catch you guys up with everything from both the tribtoday. Com and wbkn. Com (Bookman's main sources of information) If you want, you can put the words "spa","massage","human trafficking" or "raid" to read about the other articles / news reports of the raids from last year to the present. Or even read the opinion columns written by the members of MVOD. Other sources include.
[url]www.vindy.com[/url]
(the Youngstown Paper) and.
[url]http://www.wfmj.com/[/url]
(the other Youngstown TV News Station).[/QUOTE]
Just posted on wfmj website. Click on link Vampire provided yesterday. This leaves only 2 spas total.
Happy Mongering
[QUOTE=Book Man; 1733312]Just posted on wfmj website. Click on link Vampire provided yesterday. This leaves only 2 spas total.
Happy Mongering[/QUOTE]Just go here directly: [url]http://www.wfmj.com/story/21954842/with-closing-of-last-spa-in-austintown-public-hearing-set-to-update-regulations-for-businesses-alike[/url]
I guess we're going down a slippery slop.
[QUOTE=Book Man; 1733110]Posted on tribtodaydotcom this morning. He stated there is 1 massage parlor left and his goal is 0 by next year. I would guess they will start harassing Tiger soon.
Happy Mongering[/QUOTE]Here is where the mayor made the above statement in his address after announcing the Packard Hall being used by Sunrise Entertainment and Bob Early Entertainment:
[quote]In fact, I am very happy to announce at this time that the city will be making a presentation to the Packard Board regarding an agreement to have Sunrise Entertainment in collaboration with Bob Early Productions begin outside marketing of the music hall to attract new entertainment and talent to the community. This entertainment will not only include musical concerts but Broadway shows and plays as well. Sunrise entertainment has done a great job with their series of concerts at the Amphitheater and this new endeavor will begin after the AMP season and feature a variety of music and performances. We truly appreciate the work they've done not just in providing weekly entertainment choices but in showcasing our city and bringing thousands of visitors to our downtown every week during the season. I know that this success will continue with their efforts at the music hall.
So as you can see, through hard work grant writing. And creative planning the city is able to provide the necessary core services to the community and still work within a very tight budget.
When I was the Safety Service director, the city commissioned a study to develop a strategic plan. That plan is commonly known as the Poggemeyer report, and I'm happy to say it is not sitting on a shelf gathering dust as some feared it would It is serving this administration as a blueprint for improving our neighborhoods and addressing slum and blight issues this city has been facing. And we are making progress.
The City of Warren's Health Department and Deputy Health Commissioner Bob Pinti, worked with the law director and the State Attorney General's Office to reduce the number of massage parlors from 10 to onemy goal for next year zero."
Here's the link for the rest of his speech: [url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/586018/Fri---8-41am--Click-here-for-the-full-text-of-Warren-Mayor-Doug-Franklin-s-State-of-the-City-Address.html[/url][/quote]
So it doesn't look so good for our friends in the East. Well, I've been scouting for some new property and think I found a prime spot that might work to open up a new spa. The property is a house that is zoned for commercial use and is right outside of a major town's city limits. Kind of in a no man's land area with a large park nearby and within a mile of the turnpike. Kind be set up as a subdue place of entertainment with a back entry way. Not a large driveway. Kind of the set up that Fantacy had. It might work if it's kept UTR without the anything to draw attention to it. I've even checking out some office buildings (mostly medical) that might also work as well. But this is primed with it's location within each of several metropolitan areas. Now I'll just need some investors to work this through.
Found on Tribune Chronicle site!
What an "Egotistical Boon"
Quote " we closed 8 massage parlors"
" 2 left"
" next years goal is to have zero"
Its not over yet fellows! Time to move on!
A long awaited decision! It is officially time to retire from the sport I have played for many years!
As I will no longer post, I may occasionally stop by for a giggle for old time sakes! I have come to grips that the " reward" is not worth the "risk" any longer! Who am I fooling when I try to convince myself that it is safe to visit the local spa? Myself! It is not just Warren. Look around and see, the State is going to continue to push to close parlors and I have to believe we have entered a cycle that is not going to end anytime soon. Enough said,
Enjoy yourselves guys and most of all, play safe!
Later,
KIP
Had an itch that needed scratching, so went for a ride. Spring just here but tonto got me thinking of summer and what's better than sweet delicious summer fruit. One of my favorites comes from Washington state and I heard the only game left was serving some up. Since there is no elfing magic happening right now then a cherry would do. Fairly attractive mid forties, petite not taught but very firm with very nice store boughts. Energetic and had a nice time. Now even though I ate the whole bowl and they were delicious, my sweet tooth still leans to what's cooking in the hollow tree but alas the baker is on vacation still. In from the city of angels this summer treat will be in season for about a month then gone. Bumped into froggy so that's a choice too Phlip
[QUOTE=KingIpinni; 1733724]Found on Tribune Chronicle site!
What an "Egotistical Boon"
Quote " we closed 8 massage parlors"
" 2 left"
" next years goal is to have zero"
Its not over yet fellows! Time to move on![/QUOTE]In Florida, we have aroma therapy spas. Some of them have been shut down when the FEDS got involved with their new see through walls toys. No kidding. They have vans that have electronic crap in them that can see through walls. They can tell what is going on in real time. Some of the spas were shut down when the videos showed a man and women in the building having sex. From what I hear, they can even see the money being exchanged as it is that detailed.
I've seen something like it when I was serving in the Marines and I know that they have them here now. They are usually in big white box vans. Homeland Security has several of them in the US right now and is lending them to local law enforcement. If you seen a white box van near a spa, you might be looking at one of those. Here is a link that shows what I am talking about.
[url]http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0927/technology-x-rays-homeland-security-aclu-drive-by-snooping.html[/url]
It used to be that we had to worry about outside cameras. Now we have to worry about X-Ray cameras watching what we do behind closed doors.
[QUOTE=Gdlint;1460845]After all the smoke clears from this the real outcome will be NO CHARGES on any human trafficking. The whole stated reason for the investigation will be bogus. The city of Warren will have done nothing except lose income for city coffers. The Koreans will pack up their van and move to the next town, and for what? What did you really accomplish when it's all said and done? Are the churches going to be busier because of this raid next Sunday? What really sucks will be a I-told-ya-so, we all know is coming from that Turn in the Punch bowl. Jeep. Sun spent all that money moving and for what? I'm sure businesses will be jumping at a chance to acquire that building, seeing how the opportunities are so great in the shit-hole that is Warren.[/QUOTE]How True. Happy Mongering.
[QUOTE=MrEpS; 1733877]In Florida, we have aroma therapy spas. Some of them have been shut down when the FEDS got involved with their new see through walls toys. No kidding. They have vans that have electronic crap in them that can see through walls. They can tell what is going on in real time. Some of the spas were shut down when the videos showed a man and women in the building having sex. From what I hear, they can even see the money being exchanged as it is that detailed.
I've seen something like it when I was serving in the Marines and I know that they have them here now. They are usually in big white box vans. Homeland Security has several of them in the US right now and is lending them to local law enforcement. If you seen a white box van near a spa, you might be looking at one of those. Here is a link that shows what I am talking about.
[url]http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0927/technology-x-rays-homeland-security-aclu-drive-by-snooping.html[/url]
It used to be that we had to worry about outside cameras. Now we have to worry about X-Ray cameras watching what we do behind closed doors.[/QUOTE]Maybe some day the price will come down enough to assign these scanner vans to monitor the notorious AMPs of Warren. The article says that as of 2010 there were 89 vans at a cost of $890, 000 each. I seriously would not expect one to be parked across from the Sunny Spa any time soon.
[QUOTE=Entiqual;1735279]Maybe some day the price will come down enough to assign these scanner vans to monitor the notorious AMPs of Warren. The article says that as of 2010 there were 89 vans at a cost of $890, 000 each. I seriously would not expect one to be parked across from the Sunny Spa any time soon.[/QUOTE]With the way the government spends money, $890,000 is nothing. They are getting cheaper.
In Florida, I have seen three of those vans at truck checkpoints. In Florida, they had shut down a spa using one of those vans and the video made with one was used in the effort to close it down. It gave LEO an idea of what was going on and they used credit card evidence and banking records to prosecute along with blabber mouth customers who did not keep their mouths shut when they were stopped by LEO. When raided, they also found hundreds of condoms and some sex toys.
2010 was almost 4 years ago and that is a long time with technology. It gets cheaper as they make more and cheaper as they make them even better. There is a whole lot more of them now. Here is a link:
[url]http://www.infowars.com/engineer-files-law-suit-against-ny-street-body-scanners/[/url]
Not saying they are being used right now in Ohio. But keep your eyes open as there are a lot more of them now and they are being used for spa shut downs in other areas.
[QUOTE=Book Man;1735073]How True. Happy Mongering.[/QUOTE]For fun lets break it down."When the smoke clears" although it starting to smolder again the only trafficking, human or otherwise is still chuckhole dodging trafficking." lost income" the city coffers were sold on eBay to raise money to fill a chuckhole."Koreans packing there vans" maybe the vans being packed are North Korean in an attempt to submarine the south and the evil USA and are packed with the equipment that can see thru walls. Naa to much like a bad movie plot twist." churches busier" several churches are probably looking at foreclosed former spas to save money and downsize because of smaller congregations." jeep" my ears are burning and I want to slit my wrists." sun moving" I'm thinking business opportunity for enterprising mongers. Perfectly legal we restore sun to its original glory and open a museum. 10 buck entry, you walk in greeted by real live mamasan as you walk thru you can see into the roped off areas. Go past the shower room and there is a wax manican of one of us mongers with nana on top doing a slide covered of course. Glimpses of the sauna and massage rooms, you get the idea then because there's open land next door we expand and open an authentic Korean resturant, hostess is a mamasan and waitresses are all are favorites, cookie nana Marie ect ect. Anybody in or want to expand on this venture let me know Phlip
[QUOTE=Gdlint;1460845]After all the smoke clears from this the real outcome will be NO CHARGES on any human trafficking. The whole stated reason for the investigation will be bogus. The city of Warren will have done nothing except lose income for city coffers. The Koreans will pack up their van and move to the next town, and for what? What did you really accomplish when it's all said and done? Are the churches going to be busier because of this raid next Sunday? What really sucks will be a I-told-ya-so, we all know is coming from that Turn in the Punch bowl. Jeep. Sun spent all that money moving and for what? I'm sure businesses will be jumping at a chance to acquire that building, seeing how the opportunities are so great in the shit-hole that is Warren.[/QUOTE]. See previous ha
[QUOTE=PhlipPhlop;1735695]. See previous ha[/QUOTE]I think my good friend Philp has lost it, He needs some vitamin C.
In the current environment, I am deliberately keeping this report brief. Paid a visit to my friends there, business is understandably slow but I used that to my advantage and had an enjoyable visit. Those that know, know. Had a nice massage. No need to go into details.
On an unrelated note, it's Cherry Blossom season in D. C. It is truly a sight to behold, as they are quite lovely.
Tonto
[QUOTE=Tonto Monger; 1739086]In the current environment, I am deliberately keeping this report brief. Paid a visit to my friends there, business is understandably slow but I used that to my advantage and had an enjoyable visit. Those that know, know. Had a nice massage. No need to go into details.
On an unrelated note, it's Cherry Blossom season in D. C. It is truly a sight to behold, as they are quite lovely.
Tonto[/QUOTE]Remember that game show?"No Whammy, No Whammy, No Whammy! STOP!" You must WANT to be in that place when it gets raided and shut down. Anyone who visits Tiger spa is just asking for trouble at this point. The place's days are numbered and you are going to end up being interrogated by a bunch of cops if you are lucky enough to be there when the order comes down. Just sayin.
[QUOTE=Spa Lunker;1739396]Remember that game show?"No Whammy, No Whammy, No Whammy! STOP!" You must WANT to be in that place when it gets raided and shut down. Anyone who visits Tiger spa is just asking for trouble at this point. The place's days are numbered and you are going to end up being interrogated by a bunch of cops if you are lucky enough to be there when the order comes down. Just sayin.[/QUOTE]didn't you already claim that tiger had been raided and shut down?
[QUOTE=Frank69;1739932]didn't you already claim that tiger had been raided and shut down?[/QUOTE]Don't put words in my mouth. I never said it was raided OR shut down. I said I believe both of those will happen in the very near future, and that I had a rather unpleasant conversation with some cop-like individual there, but never that they were raided or shut down.
[QUOTE=Spa Lunker;1740059]Don't put words in my mouth. I never said it was raided OR shut down. I said I believe both of those will happen in the very near future, and that I had a rather unpleasant conversation with some cop-like individual there, but never that they were raided or shut down.[/QUOTE]I would highly recommend you STAY AWAY FROM TIGER SPA! Unless you want trouble. This place is surely getting shut down very soon. I don't know if this guy was an inspector and doing a surprise visit, or a real cop trying to be sneaky, but I still can't wrap my head around what happened.
You really need to learn how to use the "quote" feature on here. Sheesh. When you reply, make sure both quote boxes are at the beginning and end of the text. Otherwise it will appear as normal text. For double quotes click the icon to the right of the quote to "multi-quote".
[QUOTE=Frank69;1740417]I would highly recommend you STAY AWAY FROM TIGER SPA! Unless you want trouble. This place is surely getting shut down very soon. I don't know if this guy was an inspector and doing a surprise visit, or a real cop trying to be sneaky, but I still can't wrap my head around what happened.[/QUOTE]As much as it pains me to agree with SL, you just proved his point. Maybe stick with: "Anybody been to a spa lately?"
[QUOTE=Spa Lunker;1739396]Remember that game show?"No Whammy, No Whammy, No Whammy! STOP!" You must WANT to be in that place when it gets raided and shut down. Anyone who visits Tiger spa is just asking for trouble at this point. The place's days are numbered and you are going to end up being interrogated by a bunch of cops if you are lucky enough to be there when the order comes down. Just sayin.[/QUOTE]Do I WANT to be there when the place gets raided? Of course not. Do I take calculated risks? Sure, so does everyone else in this hobby. What will I do when if I'm unfortunate enough to be there if or when it gets raided? I've thought about that and my answer is be cool. I will admit to nothing except getting a massage for my bad back and that's it. As far as DNA evidence, there won't be any because all I'm doing these days is BBBJ and my girl swallows the evidence. I've found myself in handcuffs sitting on the curb once before while the cops tried to get me to admit to illegal activity. It wound up being 45 minutes of futile effort on their part and they had to cut me loose.
Honestly, I'm not that worried about it. Not that I'm whistling past the graveyard or anything. It's just that in my estimation, the guys that got prosecuted or put through the legal wringer were those that were too stupid or too scared to keep their mouths shut. They dug their own graves with their big mouths. That is not going to happen to me, ever. Also remember that I'm not the one they're after.
On my last visit, I recommended to Sarah that she insist that all the girls keep in the room a massage coat that can be put on quickly and easily. If the place is raided, there will be a knock on the door which will give anyone inside a few seconds to shape up.
[QUOTE=Tonto Monger; 1740688]Do I WANT to be there when the place gets raided? Of course not. Do I take calculated risks? Sure, so does everyone else in this hobby. What will I do when if I'm unfortunate enough to be there if or when it gets raided? I've thought about that and my answer is be cool. I will admit to nothing except getting a massage for my bad back and that's it. As far as DNA evidence, there won't be any because all I'm doing these days is BBBJ and my girl swallows the evidence. I've found myself in handcuffs sitting on the curb once before while the cops tried to get me to admit to illegal activity. It wound up being 45 minutes of futile effort on their part and they had to cut me loose.
Honestly, I'm not that worried about it. Not that I'm whistling past the graveyard or anything. It's just that in my estimation, the guys that got prosecuted or put through the legal wringer were those that were too stupid or too scared to keep their mouths shut. They dug their own graves with their big mouths. That is not going to happen to me, ever. Also remember that I'm not the one they're after.
On my last visit, I recommended to Sarah that she insist that all the girls keep in the room a massage coat that can be put on quickly and easily. If the place is raided, there will be a knock on the door which will give anyone inside a few seconds to shape up.[/QUOTE]I agree with Tonto Monger. What could I admit to but what I was there for: a massage. The thing is that you have to be cool. As for DNA evidence? Well, mine supposedly is circled on a wall somewhere in Warren and they haven't come knocking on my door, yet. One, because there is no criminal record of me. So having gone through a couple of raids just remember to remain calm and know who you are and give nothing away. They might hold you and scold you but they're really after the girls and the owners of the business. That is what I've learned. They are basically harassing the business to close down. That's all they want to do. Look at what happened last year. Everyone that was open has been forced to close without much evidence. What? Some money? Phones? Computers? Condoms? But nothing has been published from their investigation. And where are the indictments that were suppose to be handed down? Nothing. It was all show. Just like the Prestige. Just like who I am. It's all slight of hand to make you think that you're in trouble and that bad things are going to happen to you. Yeah, if you open your mouth. Or better yet be inconsistent enough to be consider a "hostile witness". It's all how you play it or say it whether you'll be dancing on or buried in your grave.
[QUOTE=Frank69;1740417]I would highly recommend you STAY AWAY FROM TIGER SPA! Unless you want trouble. This place is surely getting shut down very soon. I don't know if this guy was an inspector and doing a surprise visit, or a real cop trying to be sneaky, but I still can't wrap my head around what happened.[/QUOTE]Did you even bother reading what you copied and pasted before you copied and pasted it? You just confirmed exactly what I said in the first place."is surely getting shut down very soon" and "definitely got raided and / or shut down" are pretty different. Your entire argument failed, stop trying to start trouble.