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I was watching this Germany girl since she was in Cancun and posted on SA. Now she is visiting San Diego. Asked for 900.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5719192]We tend to warn others on here about scammers and flakes. Very valuable info.
But there are also SBs who are real, but provide a very poor, no-repeat experience. A list of those would also be useful!
This gal is a perfect example (at least with me). A slim, petite, good looking, very fit MILF, agreeable to a reasonable allowance. But awful delivery in the bedroom.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4d35bf34-84ad-4af3-9b49-2fbd2dd0e302[/URL][/QUOTE]I contacted this pretty babe a while back too and she gave me the impression of a bad lay because she was SUPER dry in the first text messages. I called it off right away after only a few texts back and forth my Sharingan was able to spot trouble up ahead. Maybe it's just me but I am allergic to starfish.
Are e blurring the lines between a real Sugar Baby, and perhaps a low volume but high cost Independent Provider?
Sugar Babies in my past experience are almost like Fuck Buddies which you "help" with expenses.
You have a connection and hopefully a mutual attraction that may transcend beyond sex.
A sweet college girl needing assistance with expenses is just about perfect. Hard to find, but perfect.
It seems the posts here are now talking about independent providers which are just about great sex for the money, with the implication of a SB relationship.
A woman advertising to be a sugar baby needs to be scrutinized, and you may have to do a lot of interviews if you are up to it.
Sure that is great, but why try to play the Sugar Baby game when you can find a good IP to rock your socks off without the work of effort of finding a suitable "SB"?
If you want a real SB, expect to really have to search, or be one lucky fucker. Generally she won't be overtly advertising, or someone recommended to you by an agency.
No matter which way you go, vaya con Dios and good luck!
[QUOTE=MaximusKahn;5725068]Are e blurring the lines between a real Sugar Baby, and perhaps a low volume but high cost Independent Provider?
Sugar Babies in my past experience are almost like Fuck Buddies which you "help" with expenses.
You have a connection and hopefully a mutual attraction that may transcend beyond sex.
A sweet college girl needing assistance with expenses is just about perfect. Hard to find, but perfect.
It seems the posts here are now talking about independent providers which are just about great sex for the money, with the implication of a SB relationship.
A woman advertising to be a sugar baby needs to be scrutinized, and you may have to do a lot of interviews if you are up to it.
Sure that is great, but why try to play the Sugar Baby game when you can find a good IP to rock your socks off without the work of effort of finding a suitable "SB"?.[/QUOTE]Well, of course, there is a continuum, both in what's available and what guys seek. Too many in my view are really looking for just a different way to monger, and if they do that on the seeking site itself, they could mess it up for others who aren't mongers.
I've had three durable relationships from [URL]seeking.com[/URL], and I have bowl buddies who have literally found their soul mates on the site (despite a 20 year age difference). My SBs ranged from 19 to 40 years of age, whereas I am eligible for Medicare. One of these relationships would still be ongoing after meeting her a year ago if she lived here, and in fact if she is visiting her family here, we get together. No sugar. It's a relationship / affair now. We might meet up in Vegas soon.
Saw these two today (not local).
- The best job? A BJ.
- Historian. Looking for ancient ruins.
Also saw a photo with a bare breast and pierced nipple. They do thing differently in Europe.
Do one time use gift cards still work for the membership? Heard the membership also increased and now auto renew (not liking this tbh).
[QUOTE=FabricBuster;5730239]Do one time use gift cards still work for the membership? Heard the membership also increased and now auto renew (not liking this tbh).[/QUOTE]Membership Increased: Yes, and it's not new, they do that every year.
Auto Renew: Not really. You can go into setting and remove your renew.
Vanilla Cards do NOT work anymore: Confirmed.
[QUOTE=KingBaby;5730722]Membership Increased: Yes, and it's not new, they do that every year.
Auto Renew: Not really. You can go into setting and remove your renew.
Vanilla Cards do NOT work anymore: Confirmed.[/QUOTE]Wow, just wow.
Have SA gone crazy?
This is the end of my business with them. No way I am using a personal credit card to sign up.
[QUOTE=MaximusKahn;5725068]Are e blurring the lines between a real Sugar Baby, and perhaps a low volume but high cost Independent Provider?
Sugar Babies in my past experience are almost like Fuck Buddies which you "help" with expenses.
You have a connection and hopefully a mutual attraction that may transcend beyond sex.
A sweet college girl needing assistance with expenses is just about perfect. Hard to find, but perfect.
It seems the posts here are now talking about independent providers which are just about great sex for the money, with the implication of a SB relationship.[/QUOTE]I think there are multiple trends, several long term, that are driving this change.
1. Years back, a larger percentage of the women on SA were university coeds who joined via word of mouth. They heard from friends at college, via sorority dares, and so on. They came fresh, and somewhat innocent. It was all something of an adventure, with no prior coaching, apart from what friends might tell them. That has all changed. Nowadays, the proportion of coed students on SA is much smaller, with more older and non-university educated women. In addition, a large percentage of the SBs now have coaching from "how to" videos and articles on YouTube, TikTok, Reddit, etc. These two changes have completely changed the dynamic. The women are less innocent, and much more money focused.
2. The second big change is that many of the SDs are also now different. The closure of the previous big online adult sites, such as CL and BP, after the passage of FOSTA-SESTA, led to two things. First, with reduced bottom-end competition, escort prices rose substantially; prices probably doubled at least. At the same time, punters were looking around for new sites to replace CL and BP. Many discovered SA. They brought with them both punter attitudes, and escort pricing, in the form of their readiness to pay GPS rates. Yet another effect is that it seems clear that many SBs are aware of the increased prices in the escort world, and are factoring that into their asks.
3. Finally, I think the Covid pandemic has had a substantial effect over the last two years, by reducing willingness to have an initial meet & greet, or meet socially for lunch or dinner at a restaurant. That has increased the trend towards going straight from talking / texting online to an intimate get together, I. E. Scrutiny has been reduced.
[QUOTE=KingBaby;5730722]Membership Increased: Yes, and it's not new, they do that every year.
Auto Renew: Not really. You can go into setting and remove your renew.
Vanilla Cards do NOT work anymore: Confirmed.[/QUOTE]I am not so sure about this. The OneVanilla Prepaid Debit card, a non-reloadable card, has worked for a long time. It is going off the market I believe, however. There is new branding, called SecureSpend. The packaging is very very similar to the old OneVanilla however. If you look at the Richmond VA sugar thread, you may even see a photo of them. You'll have to read back a week or two. There are other solutions also recall reading. I think a Google Pay prepaid card can be used on the app. If you can still download that onto your phone. If that is the only route to an anonymous membership, it might be wise to get that app onto your phone while you still can.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5730767]Wow, just wow.
Have SA gone crazy?
This is the end of my business with them. No way I am using a personal credit card to sign up.[/QUOTE]I was just about to talk more about our beloved Prepaid - Vanilla NOT working anymore. I was able to confirm it last night when I was trying to buy some "Boost," which did not work at all with all methods (the usual - Zipcode / Phone / Name setups). Apparently, the funds were not touched. I believe it's a result of Credit Card (CC) Processor switched. It kinda makes sense for sites like SA, they experience a lot of CC Fraud, so CC processors might not want to work with them.
No, I have not tried Amex Prepaid or any other type of prepaid cards for now. So I guess this is the end for Vanilla, please report back once you guys try other prepaids.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5731073]I am not so sure about this. The OneVanilla Prepaid Debit card, a non-reloadable card, has worked for a long time. It is going off the market I believe, however. There is new branding, called SecureSpend. The packaging is very very similar to the old OneVanilla however. If you look at the Richmond VA sugar thread, you may even see a photo of them. You'll have to read back a week or two. There are other solutions also recall reading. I think a Google Pay prepaid card can be used on the app. If you can still download that onto your phone. If that is the only route to an anonymous membership, it might be wise to get that app onto your phone while you still can.[/QUOTE]Do you mean Google Play Giftcard?
[QUOTE=JWalker350;5732802]Do you mean Google Play Giftcard?[/QUOTE]I took a screenshot of what I heard on this site earlier, I will attach it.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5737419]I took a screenshot of what I heard on this site earlier, I will attach it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for our help. Unfortunately, I could not find that option when made a payment to SA membership.
SA is full of women in their 30's now, single moms etc.
The younger girls are now on * or other cam sites. They just need to get enough simps to fork out $50 a month and alot of their living expenses are covered. The cam sites lets them scale their business and there is no need to meet up in person anymore.
Not sure what the strip club scene is like out here but back east where I'm at now its pretty beat. Alot of strip clubs are legit hiring street walkers these days.