Sugar Baby

[QUOTE=IIIII;4664457]TMW dropping knowledge on the board. What a breath of fresh air!![/QUOTE]My current baby asked for 500 I talked her down to 300. We hit it off and then I offered her 600 a week allowance to meet 3 x a week. She stopped seeing someone else that was giving her 500 each time because he made her feel creeped out. She comes over and spends hours or we go out and come back but theres always lots and lots of great sex. She's 19 Latina banging body. But its not all about money and sometimes it is all about the money. Each girl is different on what they want. And yes guys are sending girls money just for pics. I've seen girls for 200 that guys paid 300 just to go to dinner. I've seen a girl that a guy gave her 1000 a week for 1 visit and she stopped seeing him and saw me 2 x a week for 300 each time. Its not your typical escort situation. Now there are escorts on the site. There are girls that will see anyone for a set price. I'm not interested in those girls. So if you are we aren't In competition so what I choose to pay doesn't affect anyone looking for those types of girls. Sometimes a 500 investment in a girl is worth it. Sometimes a 200 investment in a girl is not.

[QUOTE=IIIII;4664457]TMW dropping knowledge on the board. What a breath of fresh air!![/QUOTE]I think sharing knowledge is extremely helpful. Its also rare on this board and there are good reasons why.

Might be connected to LEO somehow. Asking to be very specific. Not normal conversation. Beware.

[QUOTE=TreeFiddy;4362347]Anyone actually met this one in person? May take the plunge and will report back if do. Looking for 411 prior if available.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b8cb604f-fa99-4b11-9c2c-42ebb6983ade[/URL][/QUOTE]Finally got her to reply to me when I offered her 500. We were going back and forth and she was all set to come but she wanted raincoats for all action. I won't do a BJ with a coat so I had to turn it down. I think she's a freak and fun but you are going to have to spend 500 and wear a raincoat for everything. If that's you that's what it takes. I didn't share pictures with her so it was all the money. I've messaged her a bunch and she never responded until I threw out the 500.

One of mine wanted to add a third to the fun. So I messaged around to find one. Got many responses but I settled for a newer 19 yo college girl. Met her at a restaurant and bar to just feel her attitude out. Upon walking in this girl looked much better in pictures than in person LOL. But still cute enough to proceed. We wanted a girl that was more experienced in the matter of, well anything. This girl was not. Through text she described herself as a switch between a Dom and a sub, irl she was an innocent little girl. 3 partners and her first was a girl. My girl was on the fence and though I wanted to bring her back and punish her I just couldn't pull the trigger. Like shooting Bambi in the face. So I sent her on her way and me and my girl had a great laugh and hours of fun afterwards.

Tl; Dr New baby said she was experienced. Didn't want to shoot Bambi. Went home and fucked all night.

[QUOTE=TellMeWhy;4664142]These girls aren't hookers and they don't care about volume unless they are hookers and then they aren't trying to get 500 and will see anyone. Girls that are charging 500 they aren't going down in their price they just won't see anyone. And sometimes you can offer then 500 and they might not see you anyway. And trust me when I tell you there are men that are paying these girls just for dates and they are paying these girls 10 k a months allowances and renting them apartments. This isn't back page.[/QUOTE]You have your game and I have mine and YES they are "hookers," they're just not proud of it Lol

I've been seeing 3 (23-25 yo) now for $100-$150, or when they need a bill paid. Now it's just a casual / regular thing. Most of the time I take them out and let them have fun and it always works out.

If you LET them have their way, they will take it. But if you know how to talk to them, they will agree. Most of the girls on SA are just greedy hoes and are no different from girls posting online for work, they just want to hold on to their dignity (whatever is left of it) and because they don't rely on the money, they are SO much easier to negotiate with....seriously! Yes, there are some that are just gold diggin hoes, I pass and move on. The options are so plentiful in SA, why settle?

If you don't think we can dictate the rates...buddy it works the same as any other business. You're only fooling yourself if you really believe that.

The most common response I get from them are "well my last sugar daddy gave me $500." I say, "great! Why aren't you still with him?" Shuts them the hell up! From there my negotiation game comes in.

Have you ever tried to tell ANY of them, "You seem like a really nice girl, and I think we could probably hit it off, but I don't think this is going to work out"? Watch how fast they BEG you not to say no! Don't use any of this if you don't know how to be in charge. Its so FUCKIN easy on SA! 😂


SA, STG or EA...same hoes, different game plan.

Just my experience

STAY FRESH! 💪

I'm lurking but I wanted to add to Jjfresh's comment.

I was in S Florida and got a sugar girl and a UTR, both for $100. I got a chubby Haitian for $50, she wasn't hot but she was nice to me so what the hell.

UTR and sugar girl are model hot, the sugar girl was 21 the first time I got her.

Rarely do girls have money, and never do they have enough, so you can drive a bargain sometimes.

Of course girls with GPS may abound, but there will always be broke girls who love attention from men.

I'm in California now so I have to see what I can find here.

If a guy is a Harvey Weinstein slob of course he will not have a cheap rate either.

It seems like there are different camps and ways people approach the SA thing. As for me I would never pay a chick 500 for anything including all night sessions. If I wanted to spend that kind of cash I'd just go to Medellin for about a week. Whatever works for you and whatever floats your boat is my motto. I prefer going the JJ route myself.

[QUOTE=JJFresh;4666129]You have your game and I have mine and YES they are "hookers," they're just not proud of it Lol

I've been seeing 3 (23-25 yo) now for $100-$150, or when they need a bill paid. Now it's just a casual / regular thing. Most of the time I take them out and let them have fun and it always works out.

If you LET them have their way, they will take it. But if you know how to talk to them, they will agree. Most of the girls on SA are just greedy hoes and are no different from girls posting online for work, they just want to hold on to their dignity (whatever is left of it) and because they don't rely on the money, they are SO much easier to negotiate with....seriously! Yes, there are some that are just gold diggin hoes, I pass and move on. The options are so plentiful in SA, why settle?

If you don't think we can dictate the rates...buddy it works the same as any other business. You're only fooling yourself if you really believe that.

The most common response I get from them are "well my last sugar daddy gave me $500." I say, "great! Why aren't you still with him?" Shuts them the hell up! From there my negotiation game comes in.

Have you ever tried to tell ANY of them, "You seem like a really nice girl, and I think we could probably hit it off, but I don't think this is going to work out"? Watch how fast they BEG you not to say no! Don't use any of this if you don't know how to be in charge. Its so FUCKIN easy on SA! 😂


SA, STG or EA...same hoes, different game plan.

Just my experience

STAY FRESH! 💪[/QUOTE]I agree there is volume of girls if you search the whole database. If you will settle for ugly fat or old (23 and up) I have a certain body type a certain experience and a certain age I am looking for. If you will settle for just any girl then you have multiple options. Of course I hear the line all the time my last sd gave me this. And I do the same thing wow that's a really good arrangement you should do that. I usually pay 200 to 300 and I've only paid 400 or 500 on a super rare occasion and its always benefitted me. After a one time investment I've always been able to get them down. But on the girls I'm talking about they aren't going to see you for 100. They get guys that will pay them that for pics. I urge you to try to stay in my search paramaers and go after the girls I go after and offer them 100 and see what happens. I'm glad you are doing we'll to each his own. But you must not understand supply and demand. For the girls you are talking about demand is low and supply is. High so your process works. For the girls I'm talking about its exactly the opposite so your methods don't work and wouldn't I don't care how good of a closer you think you are.

For me it's expected that SB's tell us that they are not escorts or hookers. It's their way to cope with the fact they offer sex in exchange of an allowance, but when some guys firmly believe that, you know the girls had done their job right. SA in Orlando it's a buyer's market, there is no need to pay double the average rate. However, at the end of the day, it's your money.

[QUOTE=TellMeWhy;4666579]I agree there is volume of girls if you search the whole database. If you will settle for ugly fat or old (23 and up) I have a certain body type a certain experience and a certain age I am looking for. If you will settle for just any girl then you have multiple options. Of course I hear the line all the time my last sd gave me this. And I do the same thing wow that's a really good arrangement you should do that. I usually pay 200 to 300 and I've only paid 400 or 500 on a super rare occasion and its always benefitted me. After a one time investment I've always been able to get them down. But on the girls I'm talking about they aren't going to see you for 100. They get guys that will pay them that for pics. I urge you to try to stay in my search paramaers and go after the girls I go after and offer them 100 and see what happens. I'm glad you are doing we'll to each his own. But you must not understand supply and demand. For the girls you are talking about demand is low and supply is. High so your process works. For the girls I'm talking about its exactly the opposite so your methods don't work and wouldn't I don't care how good of a closer you think you are.[/QUOTE]So the only thing you can assume is that I go for the ugly, fat and old. LOL 😂😂 I'm not trying to argue with you bud, but I most definitely disagree with your assessments of how to handle SA hookers. Especially when you say I am "gravely mistaken. " I will say again, no I am not! Not my fault your game is soft.😋

You're right about volume! My inbox gets at least 4-5 messages a day! I have to weed thru the crap to find my gems. 😉

Anyway, its all good in the neighborhood! Stay Fresh! 💪

[QUOTE=JJFresh;4667483]So the only thing you can assume is that I go for the ugly, fat and old. LOL 😂😂 I'm not trying to argue with you bud, but I most definitely disagree with your assessments of how to handle SA hookers. Especially when you say I am "gravely mistaken. " I will say again, no I am not! Not my fault your game is soft.😋

You're right about volume! My inbox gets at least 4-5 messages a day! I have to weed thru the crap to find my gems. 😉

Anyway, its all good in the neighborhood! Stay Fresh! 💪[/QUOTE]Very entertaining, please keep responding back to each other. LOL!!

[QUOTE=TellMeWhy;4666579]I agree there is volume of girls if you search the whole database. If you will settle for ugly fat or old (23 and up) I have a certain body type a certain experience and a certain age I am looking for. If you will settle for just any girl then you have multiple options. Of course I hear the line all the time my last sd gave me this. And I do the same thing wow that's a really good arrangement you should do that. I usually pay 200 to 300 and I've only paid 400 or 500 on a super rare occasion and its always benefitted me. After a one time investment I've always been able to get them down. But on the girls I'm talking about they aren't going to see you for 100. They get guys that will pay them that for pics. I urge you to try to stay in my search paramaers and go after the girls I go after and offer them 100 and see what happens. I'm glad you are doing we'll to each his own. But you must not understand supply and demand. For the girls you are talking about demand is low and supply is. High so your process works. For the girls I'm talking about its exactly the opposite so your methods don't work and wouldn't I don't care how good of a closer you think you are.[/QUOTE]The ones you may meet freestyle don't have any idea usually what they are worth.

My inexpensive Florida baby was too shy to ever sign up for SA.

She must've been an ugly duckling, she was a waitress at a hooters for a while and told me she was intimidated by her coworkers good looks.

Also, poor girls who have only dated broke guys think 100 is a lot of money, until she wises up.

The UTR was also a mystery to me, she was hot and not a shy girl. I don't think she needed the money and may have enjoyed the adventure as much as a Benjamin.

I believe that if I search on SA the average price will rise a lot, since the girls have more guys contact them.

[QUOTE=JJFresh;4666129]You have your game and I have mine and YES they are "hookers," they're just not proud of it Lol

I've been seeing 3 (23-25 yo) now for $100-$150, or when they need a bill paid. Now it's just a casual / regular thing. Most of the time I take them out and let them have fun and it always works out.

If you LET them have their way, they will take it. But if you know how to talk to them, they will agree. Most of the girls on SA are just greedy hoes and are no different from girls posting online for work, they just want to hold on to their dignity (whatever is left of it) and because they don't rely on the money, they are SO much easier to negotiate with....seriously! Yes, there are some that are just gold diggin hoes, I pass and move on. The options are so plentiful in SA, why settle?

If you don't think we can dictate the rates...buddy it works the same as any other business. You're only fooling yourself if you really believe that.

The most common response I get from them are "well my last sugar daddy gave me $500." I say, "great! Why aren't you still with him?" Shuts them the hell up! From there my negotiation game comes in.

Have you ever tried to tell ANY of them, "You seem like a really nice girl, and I think we could probably hit it off, but I don't think this is going to work out"? Watch how fast they BEG you not to say no! Don't use any of this if you don't know how to be in charge. Its so FUCKIN easy on SA! 😂


SA, STG or EA...same hoes, different game plan.

Just my experience

STAY FRESH! 💪[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TellMeWhy;4666579]I agree there is volume of girls if you search the whole database. If you will settle for ugly fat or old (23 and up) I have a certain body type a certain experience and a certain age I am looking for. If you will settle for just any girl then you have multiple options. Of course I hear the line all the time my last sd gave me this. And I do the same thing wow that's a really good arrangement you should do that. I usually pay 200 to 300 and I've only paid 400 or 500 on a super rare occasion and its always benefitted me. After a one time investment I've always been able to get them down. But on the girls I'm talking about they aren't going to see you for 100. They get guys that will pay them that for pics. I urge you to try to stay in my search paramaers and go after the girls I go after and offer them 100 and see what happens. I'm glad you are doing we'll to each his own. But you must not understand supply and demand. For the girls you are talking about demand is low and supply is. High so your process works. For the girls I'm talking about its exactly the opposite so your methods don't work and wouldn't I don't care how good of a closer you think you are.[/QUOTE]I feel you both are correct in your assessments since there's a wide range of options on SA. And although I've never been able to land someone for 100 or 150 I have got close to those numbers after multiple meetings in fact with a few I've actually got some freebees. I've used the line Why aren't you still with him and the response I get is I still am. I like variety. And I've used You seem like a very nice girl and we could probably hit it off but, and the response I get is thank you and I wish you luck. Anyway it really does come down to searching for ones own unicorn and going with it. I've found mine right now and have been at it for 5 months and it just keeps getting better.

[QUOTE=JJFresh;4667483]So the only thing you can assume is that I go for the ugly, fat and old. LOL 😂😂 I'm not trying to argue with you bud, but I most definitely disagree with your assessments of how to handle SA hookers. Especially when you say I am "gravely mistaken. " I will say again, no I am not! Not my fault your game is soft.😋

You're right about volume! My inbox gets at least 4-5 messages a day! I have to weed thru the crap to find my gems. 😉

Anyway, its all good in the neighborhood! Stay Fresh! 💪[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TellMeWhy;4666579]I agree there is volume of girls if you search the whole database. If you will settle for ugly fat or old (23 and up) I have a certain body type a certain experience and a certain age I am looking for. If you will settle for just any girl then you have multiple options. Of course I hear the line all the time my last sd gave me this. And I do the same thing wow that's a really good arrangement you should do that. I usually pay 200 to 300 and I've only paid 400 or 500 on a super rare occasion and its always benefitted me. After a one time investment I've always been able to get them down. But on the girls I'm talking about they aren't going to see you for 100. They get guys that will pay them that for pics. I urge you to try to stay in my search paramaers and go after the girls I go after and offer them 100 and see what happens. I'm glad you are doing we'll to each his own. But you must not understand supply and demand. For the girls you are talking about demand is low and supply is. High so your process works. For the girls I'm talking about its exactly the opposite so your methods don't work and wouldn't I don't care how good of a closer you think you are.[/QUOTE]I will end this right now. Both guy's are correct, now let's get back to reviewing some pussy.